Poll of the Day > What's the most powerful country in the world?

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Muscles posted...

By oppressing to the point where we overthrew you

We "oppressed" you with taxes you adopted regardless, but without the resources and support of the Empire. You played yourself.

Sarcasthma posted...

I didnt say it was nice. I said it was the nicest thing youve said about the US.

They're all 0 nice.

Zeus posted...

What?

Learn history.

Zeus posted...

It's like you never heard about Pearl Harbor. Your alternative history is hilarious.

They struck first when the US made an existential threat, the US was going to attack regardless.

Zeus posted...

What the fuck are you talking about? None of that made a lick of sense. Probably because you fundamentally don't understand the kinds of wars the US has been fighting in recent decades. More importantly, by your "logic," the US should just drop a nuke on every nation it fights with.

Like I said before, the US can't use their nukes because they demonstrated they can't behave themselves with them.

A good war is a quick, devastating strike and an immediate surrender, not dicking about in the desert.
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Zeus posted...

No, they're not.

Oh yeah, people just war for fun. Profit doesn't just mean cash money btw.

Zeus posted...

Highly unlikely.

Prove the US got more than they spent in any incidence.

Zeus posted...

So our skeletons are merely an extension of your skeletons.

No, you don't get to make claims to the Empire. Your first corpse is tricking the people in to losing that.
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Ch-ch-china.

Im not so much upset that you left the US out but that you included India and not the US. If that makes sense.

https://youtu.be/iKJoMO0vJ5c

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Australia because spiders

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

weak bait

Not sure whatcha mean friend

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other:north sentinel island yes I know its not a country per se but i wouldnt want to fuck with them.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Australia because spiders

what just spiders? what about the most savage and brutal of australias creatures the drop bear
https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/

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Psh, spiders eat drop bears for breakfast

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zebatov posted...

One would be stupid not to. China factually has a larger military and it would be naive to assume they dont have the same technology. If they Chinese military deployed like the US does they would decimate any country they invaded.

Already debunked this wrong-headed claim -- Post #35 - "Although your point is very poorly phrased, I'm assuming it refers to China's number of troops. The problem there is that ground troops haven't won wars since... well, it's been quite a while."

Beyond that, China claims to have 2m active duty troops, which is probably a bullshit number anyway. That's compared to the US's 1.4m so, even if it was true, it's still a matter of one very large force vs another. However, like I already noted, ground troops haven't been the deciding factor in wars in ages (and that's before going in the difference between equipment whereas the US has better guns and other weapons for ground personnel). Meanwhile the US has 13,000 military aircraft to Russia's 3,000 and China's mere 2,00. Aircraft are one of the biggest deciding factors in conventional wars, replacing both naval superiority and ground superiority.

https://www.businessinsider.com/military-aircraft-strength-of-every-country-2015-1

China's added troops might as well just be fodder for aircraft.

In terms of tanks, the sources I've checked vary by number by they all seem to agree that Russia has the most by far. China has slightly more than the US, but the US already has aerial and naval superiority which provide far greater support in addition to the fact that the US doesn't have to worry about land wars against its neighbors.

By number, the US has the third-largest navy in terms of vessels but is generally considered to lead the world in terms of strength because it's looking at number of vessels rather than the individual vessels. The US has toned down a lot of their navy in favor of -- you guessed it -- aircraft! Some of the US's most potent naval craft are aircraft carriers (it also has the most in the world) because, again, aircraft win conventional wars.

zebatov posted...

The US forced them into the situation theyre in now by testing bombs and flexing. The US did the same to Germany. Why Italy was left alone I have no idea. I guess without Germany and Japan, Italy doesnt offer much. Japan is more than capable of defending itself. And the US basically does the same thing in the way of attacking.

You mean the US beat them handily? And forced them to disarm which is why they're much weaker today than they should be? It's almost like the US is the world's most powerful nation or something.


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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Learn history.

Rather I think you should. Or, at the very least, you should stop learning revisionist history.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They struck first when the US made an existential threat, the US was going to attack regardless.

So your argument is.... Japan was threatened by the fact the US existed? That's really lowering the bar there. Even Cheney would find that justification for war weak.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Like I said before, the US can't use their nukes because they demonstrated they can't behave themselves with them.

lolwut?

First, there's no "responsible way" to use a nuke. Second, the US could use nukes if it actually wanted -- which, by the way, would be broadly ineffective in actually achieving objectives -- and the worst it might get are sanctions. Third, the US was one of the nations most interested in reducing nukes from warfare despite the fact it's always had the biggest stockpile.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

A good war is a quick, devastating strike and an immediate surrender, not dicking about in the desert.

A fantasy that almost never happens. Most wars that could be won by a single strike can be won without striking at all, since you'd be able to just threaten the strike. However, even if you take out a nation's leader, that doesn't automatically stop the war. This isn't fantasy where killing the Night King would stop his undead army. The war just continues. Hell, even in the SW movies, killing the leader didn't end the empire so even in fiction that doesn't usually work.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Oh yeah, people just war for fun. Profit doesn't just mean cash money btw.

Even then it's still wrong.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

No, you don't get to make claims to the Empire. Your first corpse is tricking the people in to losing that.

Except you really can, the same way other colonies' actions can be attributed to the original colonizing nation. Granted, it's more a matter of sharing common ancestry anyway. The current UK isn't the same UK that got its ass handed to it twice by the US and today's British-Americans have the same claim to British culture of that age that today's Brits have.

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