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Yeah, I'll usually let Mini Wheats sit in the milk for several minutes before eating them, since they're just unpleasant if they aren't a bit soggy. Conveniently, the amount of time it takes to prepare some fruit to put on top is about the right amount of time to let it soak. Most other cereals, I actually don't put milk on at all because I don't like them when they're soggy.

Side note, I do like the cereals that make nutritional claims based on what's in them once milk is added. Vector's particularly noteworthy for this, claiming to have ~13g of protein per bowl right on the front of the package, but if you look at the details, 12g of that protein is from the milk. You could have a bowl of air with the same amount of milk on it and get a comparable amount of protein.

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The prequel trilogy really did have some interesting story elements to it, many of which are delightfully subtle and nuanced. There's just so much bad writing and other issues that one has to wade through to get to the good stuff that it's hard to appreciate them.

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Revelation34 posted...

That's cool but not enough characters to be worth the price. It would be better as a choose your own style kind of thing.

Brick-wise, it looks like the whole thing is just round studs in varying colours stuck on a black 48*48 sheet (it might actually be 16 12*12 plates) that then gets mounted in a frame. If you're up for making your own, you could pretty easily find yourself a sprite art generator to turn your desired picture into a 48*48 sprite (or whatever dimensions you want, really), then order the studs on their own in the colours you need, put it on a background sheet (cut to size if needed), and mount it in a dollar store frame. It'd be a bit of work to organize the whole thing, but quite doable and probably cheaper than $120.

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Revelation34 posted...

Some cereal is better soggy.

Oh, certainly, but nobody wants to see soggy cereal mush on the box. If nothing else, any given variety of cereal is often kind of indistinguishable from others when it gets soggy, and it's just bad marketing to portray your product in a way that makes it look like every other product.

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McSame_as_Bush posted...

She was ten feet away from it, so unless she had magical powers, she wasn't using it.

That, or she was spacing out and didn't notice it was free. Whatever the reason, you could have handled the situation a lot more politely than you did. She was rude, but so were you.

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Mead posted...

I want the opinion of every race, except that one.

It's a fair question. The situation has been overwhelmingly painted as a black and white problem (though up here in Canada, indigenous folks are also getting a lot of focus because they're treated even worse by our police than black Americans are by American police), such that nobody's really paying active attention to the experiences of other races. It's pretty reasonable to invite them to share those experiences in an effort to get a better understanding of the broader situation.

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Sahuagin posted...

Factorio.

I get why people call Factorio an RTS, but unless you deliberately make the Biters substantially more threatening than they are by default, I feel like it really doesn't have the competitive aspect that really defines the genre. There isn't really a defined failure state in Factorio short of getting spawn camped by Biters, and that generally isn't going to happen to the vast majority of players.

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Revelation34 posted...

I use plenty of light at home and my milk never curdles.

Presumably, the lights you have at home are not photography lights, meaning you don't have several different lamps with high-wattage bulbs positioned fairly close to the subject in an effort to eliminate shadows. Photography lights can get pretty warm over the course of a session, which can often be upwards of a couple of hours (yes, even just for a bowl of cereal). Shine a 100-watt bulb on your cereal from 3 feet away for 2 hours and then get back to me on how tasty that milk looks.

In truth, that may no longer be as much of an issue as CFL's and LED bulbs have become more common. Modern light bulbs emit significantly less heat than incandescent ones, and incandescent was the norm when I learned this fact. That said, the sogginess issue remains relevant (cereal that's been sitting in milk for longer than a minute or two does not look like the cereal you see on boxes), so I'm pretty sure it's still common practice to use a substitute.

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Nifty.

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LinkPizza posted...

Yeah. I remember reading about a bunch of different ones to see how they do it. And you definitely wouldn't want to eat certain ones...

The one that's always stuck with me is that the "milk" on pictures of cereal isn't actually milk, since real milk would curdle under the lights and also make the cereal soggy. Instead, they use white glue.

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wwinterj25 posted...

If the food at fast food joints actually looked like the stockpile image I'd be more inclined to eat at those places more.

Probably not, actually, given what they do to the food to make the promotional images look that way. There's often a lot of painting and blowtorching and substitution of inedible items to pull off those pictures. If the restaurants actually made the food look like that, it probably wouldn't be edible.

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The PotC and Haunted Mansion movies were created after the rides were, to my knowledge. In those cases, the theme park-movie connection went the other way.

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dedbus posted...

I felt the opposite for a few of those l but I think the main issue it has is that it assumed you watched the first series and sort of gives you the abridged version of many of the series most poignant moments.

Pretty much. I would personally say that Brotherhood is better overall than the '03 series, but only if you watch '03 first to get the full experience for those early bits that Brotherhood powers through too quickly to appreciate. Brotherhood's pacing for the shared content is pretty much perfect as a recap, especially for somebody who watched the original series several years prior, but it's too fast for a first viewing.

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Mead posted...

you need to make up your mind on how you wanna spell that word

Both are valid spellings, actually. Because English.

captpackrat posted...

Making it a Princess and the Frog themed ride makes a lot of sense, after all how many kids have ever seen Song of the South or know anything about the characters?

Just like they turned the Swiss Family Treehouse into Tarzan's Treehouse. How many kids have seen the Swiss Family Robinson vs how many have seen Tarzan?

Pretty much. Heck, I didn't even realize Splash Mountain was theme around Song of the South until it came up in this context. It was pretty much a movie-independent entity in my mind. If the aim of Disney's theme parks is to provide rides and attractions that reference and are based on Disney movies people like, it just makes sense to update Splash Mountain to be based on a movie current audiences have actually seen. Princess and the Frog is a very sensible theme for the ride, and will probably actually provide a more enjoyable experience for most current Disney fans and park-goers.

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Zeus posted...

But a 2020 run would be a virtually impossible mission for the Jesus is King artist and its not clear if hes serious.

An incredibly late Fourth of July announcement means West has missed every single state filing deadline for the two major parties and nearly all state primaries.

Hes blown past at least six state filing deadlines to register as an independent candidate, including several with some of the most electoral college votes, like New York and Texas.

I mean, even if he isn't legally registered as a candidate, knowing Kanye, he'd probably keep campaigning anyway and asking people to write him in. There's absolutely no chance he'll win, but there's a substantial chance he'll get a decent number of write-in votes for the sheer meme value of it all.

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shadowsword87 posted...

A laser show pointing up would be incredibly dangerous, and very likely highly illegal for any aircraft nearby.

I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to coordinate a temporary no-fly zone to establish a safe radius for the hour or so that would be needed to have a reasonable buffer on either end of the show. It might be a bit tricky to find safe flight paths on the night of the 4th, since pretty much every community will be putting on a show, but I would think something could still be worked out (even if that's just protective goggles for pilots between ~8 and 12).

shadowsword87 posted...

There isn't... really enough people who run laser shows to do that for every medium sized city as well. You're going to run into people who really shouldn't be operating lasers fast.

This is probably the more significant issue. In theory, you'd have a whole bunch of fireworks people out of work who could move into lasers instead, but the skill sets aren't particularly transferable, so it's not quite that simple. It'd have to be a very gradual transition to allow the supply of manpower to keep up with demand.

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One of the more convincing Onion articles, I must say.

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MrMelodramatic posted...

statues of any real person is dumb imo. There should be statues for like, 3 things. Great achievements (monument to eradication of polio), great loss (holocaust or natural disaster), and maybe one for other organisms that arent human (Laika, or like the one of rats being used for science).

Making a monument to any one person or resembling any one person is always going to be bad because people arent perfect. Tear them all down is my stance. Obviously something like the Lincoln memorial is less problematic than confederate statues, but Im up for bringing them both down.

I agree with this. People are very fond of saying "If we take down all the statues of people who did bad things, there'll be no statues of people left!", and I really struggle to see that as a bad thing. You can commemorate great achievements and other significant historical events without attaching a face (and, by extension, everything else the wearer of that face has done in their life) to them, and in fact, most historical events can be attributed to multiple people and honouring just one with a statue is a disservice to everyone else involved. Toss in that non-human statues are generally going to be more artistically interesting (the ancient Greeks have already done pretty much everything interesting that there is to do in the realm of sculpting realistic human figures), and it seems like a win-win to me

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ChaosAzeroth posted...

So she basically thinks she deserves money for being an asshole?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Specifically, money that people are giving to this guy to applaud him for standing up to her being an asshole.

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Revelation34 posted...

https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php

There's still moisture in people's breath in Arizona. The transmission range is going to be lessened compared to a more humid environment, since those droplets will dry up faster, but the exact difference is pretty hard to quantify and isn't likely to be enough to rely on, so that point isn't particularly relevant except to say that beachgoing isn't a great idea (high, sustained winds and higher humidity increase transmission range).

Revelation34 posted...

No that's actually false. Full protection is from specific masks.

Complete, 100% protection would indeed involve a full hazmat suit with a full-face SCBA (even then, that's not perfect, but it's close enough), yes, but nobody has ever suggested that wearing something more readily available to the average consumer provides perfect protection. Just that it's better than nothing, which is a claim that's both well substantiated and intuitively obvious.

wolfy42 posted...

Logically if you breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth, you should be just protecting others just as good as if your nose was covered as well.

Hypothetically, sure, but the vast, vast majority of people don't breathe like that by default. Relying on that as a protective measure would require people to pay conscious attention to their breathing at all times while in risky areas, which is actually quite a lot to expect of people and therefore wouldn't be overly reliable. The nose also isn't sealed off while breathing through the mouth (distinct from breathing through the nose, where the mouth does get sealed off), so even exhaling through the mouth, you're going to get some air coming out through the nose.

The only way to really make that idea work would be with some kind of external valve system that somehow prevented air from leaving the nose while exhaling while also preventing the person from breathing in any other way. At that point, you might as well just wear a normal mask that would be much simpler, cheaper, and provide better protection anyway.

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Porting obscure retro games to make them compatible with modern computers isn't really Steam's thing. They don't have a huge audience demanding that, and there is actually a fair amount of work involved.

Now, that does lead to the question of why it isn't on GOG, which is a very good question indeed.

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Yep, Windows defaults to C, and anyone that isn't computer-savvy enough to correct it is likely to just let it happen. You might want to try reconfiguring your browser to default to a download folder on a different drive, though you'll still have to keep an eye on it because other programs will want to use C first.

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Zeus posted...

Pretty sure you'd still be hit by normal public intoxication charges even if there wasn't something specific.

My understanding is that my local drunk driving laws include cycling under the umbrella of "driving" without any particular differentiation. I'd guess horseback riding would be similarly captured, though I'm not even sure it's legal to ride a horse on city streets without specific permission.

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LinkPizza posted...

Like people probably wouldnt understand when my best friend and I are talking about Beyonc being the Prince of Darkness or whatever.

I kind of want to understand this now.

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Because Facebook has come under fire in recent years for not doing enough to combat misinformation being spread on their site and has put some efforts into improving that. It's been removed from Facebook because it's fake.

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ChimeraBlue posted...

Out in the open air, away from people? No.

In any sort of store or area with people? Always.

This. It's easy enough to maintain a safe distance outside, but indoors is another story.

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wolfy42 posted...

Heck man it's not even part time jobs but a large number of full time jobs as well.

So you got all these people saying "This is wrong, they shouldn't be giving that much, why would they go back to work".

Problem is, why should they have had to work for that little in the first place?

Pretty much. Hence the quote I gave. If the wages a business is paying are less than the emergency funds that are being given out to cover people's costs of living, then those wages were never covering the cost of living in the first place, and the business was simply exploiting the fact that their employees would have completely starved without the pittance they were being given.

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Muscles posted...

No one is making more without that extra 600 from the federal government. That extra 600 a week was a bad idea and is keeping people lazy

As I said, the exact numbers could really stand a little more nuance because of how variable cost of living is, but at the end of the day, the point of the extra money was to ensure that everyone had their basic needs covered such that they weren't faced with a choice between working and starvation at a point when working wasn't an option. In some areas, the extra $600 was way more than was needed, but the fundamental idea was sound. Now, working is an option, but when they don't have to choose between working and starvation, a lot of people don't want to go back to jobs they hate for pay that still doesn't do enough to stave off starvation. That's not unemployment paying too much, that's a sign that their jobs need to do better to make them actually want to work there.

In pretty much every UBI/minimum income experiment that's been run, people do end up working despite having their needs covered. Inherently, most people do like working and doing things with their lives. They just don't want to do things they don't like doing if they don't actually have to, so when the threat of starvation is off the table, they take the opportunity to find careers they actually enjoy instead of letting themselves be stuck in a job they only do because they need to pay rent.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I know of several businesses having difficulty finding people willing to work because of covid unemployment. It's shameful.

I mean, given the choice between risking their lives working for a wage that won't even cover their cost of living, or staying safely at home and having their cost of living paid for, is it really surprising that most people would choose the latter? I've seen the quote bounced around "If your employees make more on unemployment, you're not a job creator. You're a poverty exploiter," and while that's definitely an oversimplification, it's got a ring of truth to it. The current unemployment values were based on what people need to survive (albeit a blanket value that lacks the appropriate nuance for something so variable as CoL). If that's more than those businesses are paying their employees, then maybe those businesses don't deserve to have employees.

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Zeus posted...

Bulls***.

You think Americans have done a good job of following guidelines? You really think that? You had people openly flaunting them in large numbers within a week of stuff shutting down. You have sizable chunks of the country convinced that the virus doesn't even exist, thanks to the guy who's supposed to be running the place. You have people staging armed rebellions over having to cut their own hair.

Nobody is surprised by how bad America's numbers look except people who have no idea what's going on.

Zeus posted...

Which is a laughable suggestion and ridiculous even at a surface level.

Not really. There's a clear left/right split on whether or not systemic racism and police brutality are bad things (which is honestly ridiculous, but that's beside the point), and there's a similarly clear left/right split on whether or not to listen to the government when it suggests something for personal/public safety (a split which is inherent in the fundamental political philosophies, in addition to being observable in the current situation). Sure, that's an oversimplification of some pretty complex demographics, but the basic correlation is there.

Zeus posted...

The infection rates have repeatedly been noted as being highest among low-income Americans, the same group that's very likely to turn out at these protests.

Low-income Americans have had the highest infection rates largely because they're the ones that haven't had the option of not working and a considerable majority of "essential" jobs are the entry-level minimum wage ones (which, incidentally, people are awfully fond of insisting are unnecessary and therefore don't deserve a livable minimum wage, but that's none of MY business...) that are filled primarily by lower-income people.

Those jobs are still happening. Lower-income people can't afford to protest because that would mean missing work, which is a luxury they don't have at the best of times. The people that are likely to turn out at these protests are the people that are able to afford time off work/are surviving just fine off of unemployment money, which, by extension, is a group that's been able to safely limit their exposure and stay healthy.

Zeus posted...

And that might be a great excuse if they hadn't been promoting social distance even under those conditions (and even when wearing a mask) which, again, clearly not being observed.

Lower risk isn't no risk. Distancing recommendations are still a good idea even while outside. The increase in risk from failing to obey them just isn't as great. I listed that as a factor that mitigates the risk, not nullifies it.

Zeus posted...

Normal workers aren't going to get near the level of exposure that you would at a protest...

Comparing one worker completing one day of work to one day of protesting? That's generally going to be correct. Comparing multiple days, weeks, or months of work over the millions of jobs in the country to one day of protesting? Significantly less so. Most public-facing jobs see hundreds of different people come through on a daily basis, indoors, sometimes for hours at a time, and have to get closer than the recommended distance in order to interact with them (to say nothing of handling cash). Over time, that's a level of exposure that's going to exceed what you'll get from a couple hours of hanging out in a crowd outdoors, even if that crowd is very large and not particularly compliant with recommendations. Reopening stuff is a long-term decision. You've gotta look beyond short-term comparisons like that to assess comparative risks.

Of course, your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted there. I really don't know why you said what you did, but I'll rebut it anyway.

Zeus posted...

No, I can look at the guidelines and see that they're not being enforced at all in some contexts which strongly suggests that the guidelines didn't mean s*** in the first place because otherwise they would have been consistent.

No, that suggests that the extent to which guidelines are enforced depends on more than just the best available public health advice. Which, you know, everyone with half a brain already knew. It has never just been about public health. Politics, economics, and even other aspects of public health (e.g. public sanitation) have always factored into the decision. "Allowing" the protests (not that anything short of full-on bombing the streets could realistically have stopped them, given the scale) does not in any way suggest that there's no benefit in following guidelines, it suggests that "I'm sorry, please wait until the pandemic has resolved to be upset by widespread police brutality and corruption" would be political suicide.

Zeus posted...

If you're arresting pastors and fining people for stopping in parks, you must view it as serious. However, if protests are being allowed, how seriously could have officially believed in these guidelines?

Seriously enough to enforce them when the cost is something relatively trivial or easily replaced with a safer alternative. My own church has been doing services via Zoom since March. Alternatives exist to having people crowd into a physical church building, even if they aren't as nice as actually being there. Alternatives don't exist to publicly protesting a grave injustice.

Zeus posted...
As it is, we've been locked down waaaaaaaay longer than other nations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Not remotely. The US was one of the last major countries to have Covid become enough of a problem to warrant large-scale action, and even then they were still slow to adopt proper lockdown measures. Countries that started fighting well before the US did are just now cautiously starting to reopen. Canada's lockdown period started shortly before the US' (though we didn't close the border to the US until a week or two after stopping other international travel, which was a mistake that I blame mostly on Trump's inability to not take such a closure personally and Trudeau wanting to avoid stepping on his toes), and we're just barely starting to relax restrictions in some places now (mostly the provinces that have been at 0 cases for a couple weeks).

The US started later than almost everyone else, was less compliant with protocols and worse about testing than almost everyone else, and now is trying to reopen faster and less cautiously than almost everyone else, and you're wondering why your results aren't as good as anyone else's? The US response compares favourably to Brazil's, but that's about it, and Brazil's run by an insane militaristic dictator who seems to want his country to burn. That's not really good company to keep.

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Proper technique for donning/doffing the mask is to handle only the straps and avoid touching the part that actually covers your face. In practice, for some styles of mask, that's not actually possible, but it should still be the aim.

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LinkPizza posted...

Wouldnt it mean touching the mask? Whenever I put on, take off, or adjust the mask, I touch my mask. But not my face. And if youre talking about the mask touching youre face where your hands touched it, that happens every time I put it on. Probably the same for most people. Which would mean that theyd be real useless, and more dangerous. Though, like I said, youll be touching the mask instead of your face...

Ideally, yeah, you'll only be touching the mask, but in practice it's very easy to accidentally go beyond its edges and touch your face, or to touch the edges of the mask such that they transfer the contamination to your face. You're also directly contaminating the outside of the mask by touching it, increasing the likelihood of something seeping through it (especially after you've had it on for a while and it's getting damp). It's not as bad as directly touching your face, but it's still best to avoid if you can.

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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Knowing all this, creating a warm, moist environment around the mouth, nose and eyes is the plan? Giving Covid the perfect environment right in front of your face for when you do take off the mask, that's the socially responsible thing to do?

... Covid doesn't arise spontaneously in warm, moist environments. If you aren't taking your mask off in an area where transmission is likely (which I don't think I have to tell you would be pretty silly), conditions under your mask aren't going to be particularly relevant to transmission risk. If you've been performing particularly high-risk activities (like practicing medicine), it is advisable to wash your face upon removing the mask and goggles (after washing hands) for that reason, but for regular use, it's not really a concern. That environment also doesn't linger very long unless you've been drooling into your beard or something (in which case the mask isn't why your face is moist).

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There's a special variety of coffee (kopi luwak) that's made from beans that have been eaten, digested, and pooped out by civets. Being expensive and hard to come by naturally, this has of course led to people attempting to farm civets for the product, which in many cases involves confining them in battery cages to maximize production. Because of this practice and animal welfare concerns arising from it, I believe most vegans would not consume kopi luwak. It seems reasonable to me to generalize from this and say that most vegans would similarly not consume other animals' poop.

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mrduckbear posted...

He said "No amount of supervision can stop a compulsive sexual deviant like Mallory from seeking out the most heinous images and videos of small children being sexually abused"

I mean, supervision won't stop him from collecting more if he decides to do so, but it will make it pretty easy to catch him, and I doubt there'll be any difficulty sending him back to jail in that case. Honestly, this actually sounds fairly reasonable, given that he was treated and whatnot. That kind of rehabilitation is really what prison should be for, as much as America likes to treat it as vengeance and demand that criminals suffer pointlessly. Here's hoping it actually worked and he's no longer a problem and/or his surveillance is adequate to prevent further problems.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

So was he just downloading stuff from the internet? I understand possession is illegal but he hasn't harmed anyone by looking at it.

If you're really going to ignore the realities of supporting an industry that routinely exploits and abuses children, just think of it as a sort of informal copyright infringement. He's using those children's intellectual property without their permission.

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dragon504 posted...

Buy non frozen meat, hack it into sizes you like, put the pieces in freezer bags and voila, Lok sized meat when you want it.

Pretty much. If you don't want a million tiny bags in your freezer, use parchment or wax paper to compartmentalize each bag as needed. If that's still too much and it goes bad in the freezer before you can use it, find a friend/family member to split the package with.

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Politics aside, it's a better song than Star-Spangled Banner anyway, so I'm okay with this.

Muscles posted...

I don't think these corporations have the power to just change laws or decide how much funding the police get, why do people keep saying stuff like this?

They have money. Lots of it. If they really cared, they could spend a sizable amount of money lobbying for such changes and/or funding community initiatives to help obviate police, making an actual difference without even necessarily impacting the quality of life of their executives. Instead, they make token PR gestures and each exec buys a spare spare yacht.

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WhiskeyDisk posted...

If I can fart thru underwear, long johns and a pair of jeans and still smell it, none of these cloth or paper masks are going to stop you from inhaling particles or expelling particles.

SARS-CoV-2 virus particles range between 50-200 nanometres in diameter (5e-8 to 2e-7). Farts contain a number of different odorant molecules, including some as small as hydrogen sulfide, which is approximately 200 picometres in diameter (2e-10). That means the virus itself is 2-3 orders of magnitude larger than the smallest molecules that need to get through for a fart to be smelled. More significantly, this is not a virus that can survive in a dry environment, so the only way you're going to see transmission is via water droplets. Those droplets tend to fall in the 5-10 micrometre range (5e-6 to 1e-5), 4-5 orders of magnitude larger than the odorants in your farts.

The fact that you can smell a fart through multiple layers of clothing does not mean that a similar layer of cloth does nothing to prevent the transmission of droplets that are 10,000-100,000 times larger than those odorants. Of course it's not going to be perfect, especially without an airtight seal around the edges (to say nothing of not protecting the eyes), but to suggest that it does nothing is profoundly ignorant of basic biology and math (every number cited here can be found with less than a minute of googling/wikipedia).

To be clear:

• 0.0000000002 m - Smallest fart odorants
• 0.00000005 m - Smallest SARS-CoV-2 particles
• 0.000005 m - Smallest droplets (required for Covid transmission, are the actual target of masks)

Those are very significantly different numbers.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Do I have to enjoy wearing it and believe it does anything with a religious zeal to please you?

You don't have to enjoy wearing it. Nobody ever really enjoys wearing PPE, regardless of the situation. You should, however, accept that people who very obviously know more about the matter than you are probably right even if your superficial assessment of the matter leads you to doubt. You should also recognize your ignorance, and if your lack of understanding causes you to have questions about the advice of experts, ask those questions instead of spreading misinformation by spouting off your ignorant drivel as though it has any merit. There are plenty of people out there who will be happy to explain it to you without calling you an idiot, but only if you solicit that advice by asking properly instead of by acting like an idiot to attract their attention.

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If you aren't covering both your mouth and your nose with the mask, there's no point in wearing the mask. Adjusting it to only cover your mouth when others aren't around is okay in the sense that you aren't going to be infected by/infect anyone else (obviously), but making that adjustment does mean touching your face, which can result in contamination if your hands aren't clean. Ideally, you should just leave it be until the time comes to actually remove it, but if you do need to adjust it like that more frequently than that, you should carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer and use it before touching your face (within reason, of course. You don't need to sanitize if it's been two minutes since the last time and you haven't touched anything else).

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I've never seen him before in my life.

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The fact that he shot at her 8 times is particularly terrible. Unless he went for a full-auto spray-and-pray approach (which is incomprehensibly irresponsible when firing into a public street), there's no way that took him any less than 3-4 seconds, which is more than enough time to confirm any of the six hits. He knew he'd hit her, but he kept shooting. What a piece of trash.

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wwinterj25 posted...

If it was then anytime someone grabs someone for a surprise kiss/snog(not forced) that too would be rape.

If they don't want it to happen? Yeah, it kind of is (at least assault, since "rape" formally requires penetration). Obviously not as severe as penetration at gunpoint, but if you don't give people the opportunity to say "no" (or, more significantly, "yes") to anything sexual, that is non-consensual sexual activity. If you are going to do something like that, you need to make sure it's somebody who's comfortable enough with you for you to presume consent.

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Zeus posted...

Pretty sure "half the country" wasn't at those BLM protests. Probably wasn't even 5% of the country, so that's a lame excuse.

Even you're not this obtuse, so I'm not going to dignify that with a serious response. Instead, here is a picture of a clown with a rabbit poorly photoshopped(/MS Painted) onto his left ear:

https://i.imgur.com/Nx8VBGp.png

Zeus posted...

Meanwhile the country has been shut down for months

On paper, sure, but American compliance with distancing recommendations and whatnot has been pretty poor, many states have been aggressively pushing to reopen stuff regardless of how safe it is to do so, and testing rates have never really gotten high enough to have a decent idea of exactly where all of the cases are. The shut down has been half-assed at best in most areas, and the results speak to that.

Zeus posted...

and, as we've seen from BLM protests, there's been literally no reason to shut it down at all since it's perfectly safe for the protests which have zero social distance and many people aren't even wearing cloth masks.

You're awfully fixated on this point. It seems to be really bothering you. Here are the facts, though:

• Masks are significantly more common in these protests than you seem to believe, as is social distancing. Your perception of the protests has been heavily biased by what you've seen getting the most media attention, which is in turn heavily biased toward ones that turn violent (whether police or rioters started it) and are therefore too chaotic for measures to be maintained.
• There's substantial overlap between the political demographics that are attending these protests and the political demographics that have been following public health recommendations up until this point. This means fewer protesters are going to be infected to begin with, limiting the risk of spread. Many would-be protesters also opted to stay home if they were at all symptomatic, which also limited potential spread.
• The overwhelming majority of these protests took place outside, which generally helps to reduce the risk of transmission (faster dissipation of droplets, sunlight, faster evaporation).
• These protests have come at a point when the country as a whole is loosening restrictions and many people are returning (far too fast) to life as usual, causing case numbers to climb across the board. The Memorial Day weekend in particular resulted in a sizable jump, and it's really just kept climbing since then. The side effect of that is that any surge in cases that has arisen from the protests is likely to be swallowed up by the background case numbers rising at a comparable rate and not appear to be particularly significant.

Among other reasons, these points mean that you cannot look solely at the direct results of the protests and say that they prove the pandemic was never a big deal and that our efforts to date haven't achieved anything. The public health recommendations given work. Dozens of other countries have followed them and seen exactly the results that epidemiologists have been saying they should (it's almost like people who devote their entire careers to studying the transmission of diseases know a thing or two about disease transmission). That a bunch of protests haven't single-handedly infected the entire country despite not following guidelines as closely as they should doesn't change that reality, nor does the fact that the US hasn't seen great results after barely pretending to follow said guidelines.

Yeah, the lockdown sucks. Nobody's having fun with this. But you're not going to make it better by trying to undermine the advice of public health officials and convince yourself and others that ignoring the problem is the way to solve it. That's just going to result in tens (if not hundreds) of thousands more dead people. If you want to fix it, listen to the doctors and start criticizing anyone else who doesn't.

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Black_Crusher posted...

A lot of states have very strict rules vs trespassers in and around your home, regardless of of whether the owner's a scumbag or not:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

Strangely enough my co-workers were just talking about the Stand Your Ground law the other day.

Standing your ground against somebody who's running away, however, isn't really a valid concept.

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You know, it's really not overly surprising that so many people weren't expecting all of the wild events of this year. Most people don't have 2020 vision, after all.

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Zeus posted...

outdoor BDSM has logistical issues,

This is an excellent phrase to take out of context.

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Cacciato posted...

Please dont comment in your own topics. Youre violating protocol.

Especially not meaningful comments that actually contribute to the discussion. That's not like duckbear at all and I'm thoroughly weirded out.

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Ah, the joys of corporations making token efforts to seem socially aware without actually caring enough to make real changes.

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DANTE20XX posted...

History is to be remembered so it does not repeat again.

Full Throttle posted...

They plan to work with historians, educators and african american leaders to display the post in a museum setting where it can be properly contextualized and interpreted

Sounds like that's what's happening.

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wwinterj25 posted...

I'm calling you out because you should read a opening post before commenting.

It's a duckbear topic. Actually reading the whole post would just be painful. Never do more than skim.

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