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mrduckbear 07/01/20 7:47:40 PM #1: |
Do you think this bald racist should go to prison for this?
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He was arrested on charges of assault and battery with a deadly weapon and shooting with intent to kill as according to Sheriff Jody Helm, at 3am, a group of people partying across the street from his home when 26 y/o Kyndal McKvey was dared to steal one of his flags.. She approached his yard and snatched the banner but as she turned around, helm said one of the party goers yelled "GUN". She then dropped the flag at the end of the driveway and shots were fired. He fired 8 rounds of his Colt AR-15 A2 Rifle as 8 shots were fired directly at her where 6 hit her back as she fled. It was all captured on surveillance and reviewed by a deputy as the sheriff said Kyndal did not appear to be in any way a threat to him due to her obviously running away from his residence with only a flag in hand McVey collapsed in a ditch and a friend rushed to her side to administer aid as a neighbor moved their pickup truck in front of his home to create a barricade for McVey's protection while a witness trained a gun on his house a precaution Officers arrived and arrested Feaster and immediately asked for an attorney In a subsequent search, they found swastikas all around his house with 15 firearms layed out everywhere. There was also a large ashtray containing several cigarette buts and HANDCUFFS as well as a large mural of HITLER. McVey miraculously survived the shooting and was taken to OU Medical Centre and is listed in good condition She had to undergo one surgery and has a long road to recovery A neighbor said Feaster has been flying nazi flags over his house since the last year and a couple of his banners were stolen before and would sometimes walk out in public in an all black outfit with a red swastika armband Do you think this racist bastard should go to prison for this? Alexander - Going Down https://i.imgur.com/G1mmQgp.jpg Kyndal - https://i.imgur.com/xqwpVKy.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NQwX9uX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/s51bygs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jFN6XTj.jpg Nazi House - https://i.imgur.com/G51a02t.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VBidtjP.jpg --- The Users have Spoken. News Will Continue...For Now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/01/20 7:58:43 PM #2: |
mrduckbear posted...
Do you think this bald racist should go to prison for this? Was going to facetiously ask, "For murder?", since it's usually a "duh," but apparently she was trespassing to do it which makes it a bit less cut & dry because of laws extending additional protections. At any rate, she was trespassing on his property to steal something from him so... idk. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/01/20 8:37:14 PM #3: |
Zeus posted...
Was going to facetiously ask, "For murder?", since it's usually a "duh," but apparently she was trespassing to do it which makes it a bit less cut & dry because of laws extending additional protections.What the fuck? The lengths you go to in order to defend nazis is insane. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosAzeroth 07/01/20 8:43:04 PM #4: |
He shot her in the back.
She clearly wasn't a danger to him. Wtaf I mean mrduckbear posted... It was all captured on surveillance and reviewed by a deputy as the sheriff said Kyndal did not appear to be in any way a threat to him due to her obviously running away from his residence with only a flag in hand And the neighbor creating a barrier for their protection too. And a witness getting involved like that. mrduckbear posted... McVey collapsed in a ditch and a friend rushed to her side to administer aid as a neighbor moved their pickup truck in front of his home to create a barricade for McVey's protection while a witness trained a gun on his house a precaution I wonder why they felt the need to do this? Could it be because of a very real risk of... Idk murdering someone that was already downed without having been a threat in the first place? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/01/20 8:51:01 PM #5: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
What the fuck? I could say the same of you, frankly. However, if you're having a hard time being objective because you view the target of the theft as a non-person, imagine that she was trespassing to steal something else. Whether it was his newspaper, a flag, or a patio chair, trespassing and theft are trespassing and theft. More importantly, Oklahoma is a Castle Doctrine state (as well as a Stand Your Ground state, but the Castle Doctrine supersedes that and grants greater latitude). --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosAzeroth 07/01/20 8:53:48 PM #6: |
Zeus posted...
I could say the same of you, frankly. However, if you're having a hard time being objective because you view the target of the theft as a non-person, imagine that she was trespassing to steal something else. Whether it was his newspaper, a flag, or a patio chair, trespassing and theft are trespassing and theft. More importantly, Oklahoma is a Castle Doctrine state (as well as a Stand Your Ground state, but the Castle Doctrine supersedes that and grants greater latitude). I don't personally see the target of the theft as a non person, but I do see their items as non people. Which is why I noted she wasn't a threat to him. In a case of threat to safety or life that's a much different scenario. Shooting someone in the back over some cheap ass flags just comes off as a power trip or a temper tantrum more than actually trying to protect yourself or loved ones to me. Flat out. It's not about finding the flags repugnant, although I'd be lying if I said I didn't, it's about the fact they're goddamn flags. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/01/20 9:03:51 PM #7: |
ChaosAzeroth posted...
I don't personally see the target of the theft as a non person, but I do see their items as non people. In BS0's case, it seems to be entirely about the flag. In fact, I imagine he'd have a much different opinion overall if it happened to be a pride flag. That said, a person's property is their property and they have a right -- granted generally by the government and then specifically by state laws like the Castle Doctrine -- to defend that property. She trespassed on his property with the intent of robbing him and was shot in the act of absconding with that stolen property *while* still on his property (Ducky's post is poorly written, but the sheriff's account notes that he started shooting while the flag was still in hand) The fact that the guy seems like a creep doesn't mean that he doesn't have the right to own property nor does he lose the right to defend it. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosAzeroth 07/01/20 9:10:12 PM #8: |
Zeus posted...
Defend sure, but that was above and beyond. Also funny you should say that, because I honestly thought about bringing up that even if someone was stealing a pride flag no one should be shot over it. Especially in the back. Running away. A flag is a flag, and no one should be shot in the back over it. Period. I guess I'm the weird one, but I know I wouldn't assault someone in the back like that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/01/20 9:20:28 PM #9: |
ChaosAzeroth posted...
I guess I'm the weird one, but I know I wouldn't assault someone in the back like that. I imagine part of it comes down to the fact that -- as the article suggests -- he had been robbed on prior occasions and, given that it doesn't talk about anybody being arrested for the crime, the cops didn't bother investigating or turn up things on their side. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosAzeroth 07/01/20 9:35:00 PM #10: |
Zeus posted...
I imagine part of it comes down to the fact that -- as the article suggests -- he had been robbed on prior occasions and, given that it doesn't talk about anybody being arrested for the crime, the cops didn't bother investigating or turn up things on their side. I guess but people steal from people around here all the time with nothing coming about of it. We've had a few things go missing right from our garage, and I'm honestly surprised our mower hasn't. My mom had a beer bottle thrown through her windshield and her driver side mirror smashes off. The cops basically told her with the bottle incident, despite her not touching anything at the scene, that it wasn't worth putting resources into and not to expect anything. They flat out said the mirror, despite being completely missing, was probably 'just a hit and run' and never looked for any signs/tried to get any evidence or followed up on that. (Never mind the fact that when my aunt did do a hit and run with my mom's car when she let her borrow it they definitely pulled her over and questioned TF out of her.) I can't say she ever assaulted anyone trespassing, even after those incidents. I've felt plenty actually threatened before on a few different occasions and, again I guess I'm weird, because assault wasn't my course of action. I was aware it might come to that, but it wasn't my go to plan. It feels a little weird to say, not going to lie, but I do feel bad that a person has been robbed. Especially more than once. I just still don't see shooting someone in the back as good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/01/20 9:44:37 PM #11: |
I mean she shouldn't have been stealing things from his property really. Still given he shot at her 8 times when she was running away yeah he was intending to kill her so prison.
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Monopoman 07/01/20 9:50:33 PM #12: |
I'm pretty sure you aren't allowed to use deadly force in most states if someone steals something from you and runs away, even if they may be on your property during the incident.
This guy is also up shits creek because I doubt any jury is going to feel sympathy for someone who is clearly a Nazi, so even if this is more of a gray area most juries won't give a shit and will throw the book at him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 07/01/20 10:17:01 PM #13: |
She may have been stealing but she didn't deserve to be shot. That dude is loony.
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ArvTheGreat 07/01/20 10:29:27 PM #14: |
2 birds with one stone
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adjl 07/01/20 10:38:44 PM #15: |
Zeus posted...
I imagine part of it comes down to the fact that -- as the article suggests -- he had been robbed on prior occasions and, given that it doesn't talk about anybody being arrested for the crime, the cops didn't bother investigating or turn up things on their side. Doesn't matter. You don't use lethal force because you're pissed off. You use lethal force to prevent a similar level of harm from befalling you or somebody you're protecting. If being pissed off is enough to drive you to kill somebody, you should be locked away from society as a matter of public safety. Zeus posted... In fact, I imagine he'd have a much different opinion overall if it happened to be a pride flag. It is generally a whole lot easier to be sympathetic toward somebody flying a pride flag than a literal goddamn (neo-)nazi, as well as toward the sort of person who would steal a literal goddamn nazi flag than the sort of person who would steal a pride flag, but neither case would justify using lethal force on somebody who's running away. Especially not six times. Side note, that guy's "moustache" is something to behold. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/01/20 10:54:37 PM #16: |
Making a lot of assumptions about me Zeus and trying to project your feelings on to me. I actually can't find a listing for a swastika flag on a simple google search, but a pride flag is around $6 so the swastika is also likely under $10 definitely under $20.
I do not think someone deserves to be murdered over a $6 flag. This is a completely unjustified murder and there is no law that I am aware of that permits what is said to have occurred here. I'm calling you out because whenever something about Neo-nazis comes out you come to their immediate defense with no hesitation to say the most absurd things in your attempts to do so. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/01/20 10:56:13 PM #17: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
I'm calling you out because whenever something about Neo-nazis comes out you come to their immediate defense with no hesitation to say the most absurd things in your attempts to do so. "Notice me, Fuhrer-senpai!" --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/01/20 11:08:52 PM #18: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
This is a completely unjustified murder I suggest you actually read the post. She isn't dead. I'm calling you out because you should read a opening post before commenting. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/01/20 11:14:17 PM #19: |
wwinterj25 posted...
I suggest you actually read the post. She isn't dead. I'm calling you out because you should read a opening post before commenting.I meant to say shooting. It is a miracle she is still alive after all. Editing it now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/01/20 11:16:11 PM #20: |
I can see how a typo for shooting can be murder.
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adjl 07/01/20 11:20:16 PM #21: |
wwinterj25 posted...
I'm calling you out because you should read a opening post before commenting. It's a duckbear topic. Actually reading the whole post would just be painful. Never do more than skim. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/01/20 11:21:50 PM #22: |
adjl posted...
It's a duckbear topic. Actually reading the whole post would just be painful. Never do more than skim.I actually read it. It was just a mistake. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/01/20 11:22:02 PM #23: |
adjl posted...
It's a duckbear topic. Actually reading the whole post would just be painful. Never do more than skim. This is why we can't have nice things. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krow_Incarnate 07/02/20 12:05:09 AM #24: |
Duh.
That said, don't steal shit from someone's yard. Regardless of what it is. Shitty as it might be, it's his property and she's a dumb lucky bitch. --- Hail Hydra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/02/20 12:18:47 AM #25: |
Krow_Incarnate posted...
Duh.Zeus alt? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Full Throttle 07/02/20 12:20:40 AM #26: |
i would also like to add, what about the otto warmbier incident? conservatives were up in arms when north koreans put him to hard labour in prison for attempting to steal the flag as a "souvenir"..and when he died coming back to america, they were outraged since everyone agreed, no one should die over stealing a flag.
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Cacciato 07/02/20 1:05:48 AM #27: |
Full Throttle posted...
i would also like to add, what about the otto warmbier incident? conservatives were up in arms when north koreans put him to hard labour in prison for attempting to steal the flag as a "souvenir"..and when he died coming back to america, they were outraged since everyone agreed, no one should die over stealing a flag.Please dont comment in your own topics. Youre violating protocol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGuiltySpark 07/02/20 1:21:58 AM #28: |
Heard about this from my gf, who is a friend of a friend of this girl.
Kyndal had been at a party across the street, drinking. She at some point decided it would be a good idea to go into this guy's yard and steal one of his flags (reportedly, unconfirmed, so she could burn it). Well, the rest is self explanatory. To answer your question, yes he should go to prison for attempted murder. She should also go to jail for theft, or destruction of private property. Stupid games, stupid prizes... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/02/20 1:26:59 AM #29: |
TheGuiltySpark posted...
Heard about this from my gf, who is a friend of a friend of this girl.A 10 dollar flag doesn't come with jail time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monopoman 07/02/20 1:27:09 AM #30: |
TheGuiltySpark posted...
Heard about this from my gf, who is a friend of a friend of this girl. You realize theft is about how much the item is worth right? The penalty is not the same if you steal $20 worth of merchandise vs. stealing a $50k Rolex watch. The jails are not full of guys that stole a 24 pack of Miller Light worth $19.99. At most she is looking at community service and maybe a harsher penalty if she gets caught doing something similar in the next few years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ferarri619 07/02/20 1:35:50 AM #31: |
mrduckbear posted...
https://i.imgur.com/NQwX9uX.jpg 26 years old? wow she looks like 50 here, should've lived her life with less alcohol and party binging. --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/02/20 1:37:33 AM #32: |
Some girls like skin damage from tanning beds.
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TheSlinja 07/02/20 1:45:02 AM #33: |
another day, more perfect people who have never made a mistake in their life thinking all crimes deserve death
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Dark_Spiret 07/02/20 3:26:59 AM #34: |
people need to be smarter than this. if someone is crazy enough to put up a nazi flag in this day and age you have to expect them to be crazy enough to shoot you dead over it. he probably used it specifically as bait.
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ClarkDuke 07/02/20 3:40:24 AM #35: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
What the fuck?they've got to stick together, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/02/20 9:13:30 AM #36: |
Cacciato posted...
Please dont comment in your own topics. Youre violating protocol. Especially not meaningful comments that actually contribute to the discussion. That's not like duckbear at all and I'm thoroughly weirded out. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Black_Crusher 07/02/20 9:30:47 AM #37: |
ChaosAzeroth posted...
A flag is a flag, and no one should be shot in the back over it. Period. A lot of states have very strict rules vs trespassers in and around your home, regardless of of whether the owner's a scumbag or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law Strangely enough my co-workers were just talking about the Stand Your Ground law the other day. --- Bone Appetit, my skeleton Metroidvania! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1256520 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/02/20 9:33:16 AM #38: |
Black_Crusher posted...
A lot of states have very strict rules vs trespassers in and around your home, regardless of of whether the owner's a scumbag or not: Standing your ground against somebody who's running away, however, isn't really a valid concept. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Black_Crusher 07/02/20 9:36:23 AM #39: |
adjl posted...
Standing your ground against somebody who's running away, however, isn't really a valid concept. Well yeah I wouldn't do it but there's places down south I'd be afraid to step foot on somebody's property else I'd get the ol' shotgun treatment. Why take a chance? --- Bone Appetit, my skeleton Metroidvania! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1256520 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krow_Incarnate 07/02/20 11:19:52 AM #40: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus alt?You got me --- Hail Hydra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/02/20 11:39:34 AM #41: |
This dude looks like a thumb with a mustache
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Arcturusisnow 07/02/20 2:09:35 PM #42: |
Zeus posted...
I imagine part of it comes down to the fact that -- as the article suggests -- he had been robbed on prior occasions and, given that it doesn't talk about anybody being arrested for the crime, the cops didn't bother investigating or turn up things on their side.I don't give a fuck if the guy has had his entire life savings stolen. He doesn't get to shoot people that are running away and not be criticized. If it were me holding the gun that was trained on his house it would be bullet riddled already. The fucker is a nazi and as such should be burning in hell. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 07/02/20 2:27:41 PM #43: |
mrduckbear posted...
McVey miraculously survived the shooting and was taken to OU Medical Centre and is listed in good conditionI did nazi this coming --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/02/20 3:27:33 PM #44: |
The fact that he shot at her 8 times is particularly terrible. Unless he went for a full-auto spray-and-pray approach (which is incomprehensibly irresponsible when firing into a public street), there's no way that took him any less than 3-4 seconds, which is more than enough time to confirm any of the six hits. He knew he'd hit her, but he kept shooting. What a piece of trash.
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ClarkDuke 07/06/20 5:09:49 PM #45: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus alt?the board agreed he likely has 50 alts based on his voting, so if there's a question, it's zeus, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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