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OmegaTomHank posted...

And who are you? The chocolate police? WHO ARE YOU to determine what tastes like chocolate or not?

Somebody who has eaten chocolate before.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

If anything, racism was far more widespread and acceptable during the '30s & '40s, and the West and Germany had more in common with their values socially during that period than we realize at first glance.

Which is part of why there's been such a huge backlash against racism and whatnot since WWII. Hitler showed the world the horrific effects of taking racism to extremes, something he was able to do largely because the rest of the world was so complacent about antisemitism. We've seen what happens when people let enough casual racism seep into their lives that they don't pay attention to the dangerous racists. That's really not something we want to repeat, and remembering the Nazis as a horrible extreme of racism helps with that.
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Precisely. That's what chocolate tastes like. White chocolate doesn't taste like chocolate.
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If all you've been eating is white chocolate, you haven't really been eating chocolate. White chocolate has its uses, but certainly not as a substitute for real chocolate, let alone dark stuff.
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OneTimeBen posted...

Or people need to have their heads up. Then a single car won't mow down dozens of people

And so we bring victim blaming to terrorist attacks.
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Dreaming_King posted...

We will never again have another Napoleon or Hitler, and the world will be boring because of that, yeah.

If by "boring" you mean "massive numbers of people aren't going to end up dying to fuel some conqueror's ambition," then sure. Most sane people would consider that to be a good thing, though. Go play a video game if you want fighting; real violence sucks and should be avoided whenever possible.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

No, he condemned them once.

And after a couple days of pressure from pretty much everyone to do so, time which he spent dancing around specifically criticizing them. The idea that somebody should have to be pressured into saying "Nazis are bad" is, quite frankly, extremely alarming.
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knivesX2004 posted...

I mean, it's a crime so don't do it, but there should be an unwritten agreement where everyone hi-fives you on your way to the cell.

Sounds about right. Kudos for having her heart in the right place, but petty violence like that isn't going to solve anything, and should still be legally discouraged.
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Zeus posted...

adjl posted...

See, and here I thought terrorism was defined on the basis of actually inciting terror, not just doing things you don't like. Go figure.

Pretty sure going down to attack people and intimidate them then destroying landmarks counts even under your stringent guidelines.

I don't think "inciting terror" is really a stringent guideline to use in defining "terrorist group." Especially not coming from somebody who's spent the last week relying on a flimsy strand of fervent pedantry to avoid admitting he's a Nazi sympathizer. I would think you'd be all over interpreting words using their obvious definitions.
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You've made this topic before.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Riots don't incite terror?

By their nature, riots are not organized enough to qualify as deliberate terror attacks. Also, while scary enough in their own right, riots are too small-scale to really qualify as "terror."

Troll_Police_ posted...

Threatening free speech with violence doesnt incite terror?

Again, too small-scale. "Terror" in the sense of terrorism is a systematic breakdown of social function. Being afraid to say "I collect swastikas and swastika accessories" doesn't break down anything except a couple guys' ability to act Nazitastic, and nobody cares about Nazis.

Troll_Police_ posted...

I mean, I know you come from a country that doesn't uphold free speech, but in the civilized world we still hold it sacred.

And yet here you are, trying to brand entire movements as terrorists to dissuade people from listening to them, over the actions of a few violent malcontents that don't in any way diminish the actual mission. "Valuing free speech." Right.
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It looked pretty awesome. If you don't ask anything more of it than eye candy, you're going to have a good time.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

darkknight109 posted...

I don't know of any domestic terrorist groups who are dedicated to destroying American monuments, although I know several that are dedicated to preserving them.

i guess thats a matter of perspective. personally, i think the side that wants to suppress free speech, destroy US history, and constantly threaten violence and riots are the terrorists, but to each his own.

See, and here I thought terrorism was defined on the basis of actually inciting terror, not just doing things you don't like. Go figure.
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Far-Queue posted...

I think there should be another comma after "offender"

Officially, that comma (the "Oxford comma") isn't correct anymore, though I personally disagree with that decision because of the ambiguity it can introduce. You're fine as-is.
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Zeus posted...

Perhaps you can explain why you wouldn't just assume that they meant Grammar Nazis by that same token?

Because context exists. Charlottesville was not overrun by a mob of torch-toting English teachers angry about the decline of the semicolon; it's astronomically unlikely that anyone talking about a Nazi march this week would be talking about grammar Nazis and not skinheads.

Moreover, "neo-" doesn't narrow down the term beyond the time period. It's the catch-all phrase for the Nazi ideology's manifestation in a post-WWII world. Neo-Nazis are, by definition, the Nazis of today, much like neo-classical music is classical music composed more recently than 1825 (using the term colloquially, rather than getting into the rigid specifics of artistic eras). That doesn't mean somebody describing John Williams' work as "classical" is wrong, it just means they've left the modifier to be implicit in hopes that the audience will realize that 1970 wasn't 1825. Most audiences will, because most people talking about the genre of John Williams' work aren't being needlessly pedantic in hopes that they can avoid confronting the fact that they're on the same side as Nazis. Musical discussions usually involving less cognitive dissonance and whatnot.
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green dragon posted...

adjl posted...

Nope, going into another application cycle now. I'm also rewriting the MCAT in a couple weeks, since my old scores were too old, and the score I got when I wrote it last year was a bit subpar (90th percentile, but the previous one was 98th, and I actually didn't meet the minimum score for one of the schools I want, so maybe I'll study for more than two days this time >.>).

What schools are you applying to?

Mostly Dalhousie and University of Western Ontario, since they've both interviewed me in the past, as well as Queen's and McMaster because the Ontario schools have a convenient single application and it's easy to tack them on. I won't actually be doing Dal this year, since they moved their deadline up and I missed it (a July 31 deadline for next September is pretty ridiculous >.>), but I was thinking I might try UBC. I'm starting to consider going abroad (probably to the UK, since I've got dual citizenship), but I'm not sure if that's something I actually want to do or not.
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LaggnFragnLarry posted...

when you use a little tact and make your topics and posts discrete and tasteful while still getting your point across, you won't get modded

Also that. You can get away with a lot of sexual content if you aren't explicit about it.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Especially since, if you actually READ Genesis

Whoa whoa whoa.

Let's not get any radical ideas like actually reading the Bible now. We've got our beliefs here, and we don't take too kindly to newfangled ideas like that.
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Syntheticon posted...

Lot of snitches in this thread.

I find the best way to avoid having people snitch on you for being a Nazi is to not be a Nazi. It's been working pretty well for me so far, and I'd recommend it to everyone who's having a problem with people snitching on them for being Nazis.
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If it doesn't get marked, it's only going to get moderated if a mod happens to stumble upon it, and that's not that common.
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Zeus posted...

More importantly, do you call grammar nazis actual Nazis? Do you call feminazis actual Nazis? No? Why is that, then? Because they're NOT the same thing and it's f***ing confusing to imply that they are?

How are you struggling with the idea that "Grammar Nazi" and "Feminazi" are derived from "Nazi"? It's literally in the name. And not just "literally" in the sense of "the 'neo-' is clearly implied for anyone that isn't being needlessly pedantic to avoid having to deal with being on the same side as Nazis," 100% literally and unambiguously right there.

Zeus posted...

Asks the guy who just doesn't get it. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Would you care to use your dizzying intellect to explain why "neo-" isn't implied in talking about the modern iteration of any historical group? Because here I thought we all knew nobody was time traveling.
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Nope, going into another application cycle now. I'm also rewriting the MCAT in a couple weeks, since my old scores were too old, and the score I got when I wrote it last year was a bit subpar (90th percentile, but the previous one was 98th, and I actually didn't meet the minimum score for one of the schools I want, so maybe I'll study for more than two days this time >.>).
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Seriously, how does anyone Nazi this coming?
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Zeus posted...

Literally the whole modifier changes the meaning. Unless you think "grammar nazis" go around sticking people in ovens. Stop being purposefully or inadvertently dense.

... Are you suggesting that "grammar Nazi" also isn't derived from "Nazi"? Seriously, you should take this shark-finding ability to the WWF. They could use it to help endangered populations recover, even if you have a bizarre compulsion to jump over them when you find them.

Zeus posted...

Which is a lame justification for the indefensible. As always:
"Calling someone a "Nazi" shows that not only have you absolutely no grasp of history, but it's also a flame, and a TOS violation."

Do you just struggle with the concept of non-explicit communication?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It derives the negativity of nazism, it does not mean feminazis want to gas jews or really share any ideals with nazism.

So it's an example of just using the term "Nazi" to describe someone you don't like? Oh hey, we're back where we started!

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They are new nazis like new coke, a group with the same underlying direction but handled with very different ingredients with a new flavour. Nazis follow the old WWII methodology with the same old intents, neo nazis are the new, reformed group.

Ideologically (which is what's important here), they're the same thing. Neo-Nazis just look at history and realize they probably aren't going to be able to do what the original Nazis did, courtesy of pretty much everyone that isn't also a Nazi hating them, so they tend to try a more subtle approach in practice (which typically means periodic circle jerks where they compete to see who has the whitest semen, but occasionally they accomplish something less impotent).
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Zeus posted...

Given that the term "feminazi" has zero historical connection with an actual group that did anything of significance

... Did you seriously suggest that the term "feminazi" is not derived from the name of any other group? You just keep finding new sharks to jump, don't you?

SmokeMassTree posted...

Well, yes since you only call them nazis

The term "neo-nazi" refers to followers of the Nazi party's ideals in a post-WWII world, effectively Nazis of whatever era qualifies as "modern" when the term is being used. Given how unlikely it is that anyone discussing the matter has invented time travel, it really shouldn't be too much of a stretch to realize that people that are talking about Nazis in a modern context are discussing neo-Nazis, without the need to explicitly specify.
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Currant_Kaiser posted...

adjl posted...

Zeus posted...

Again, not actual Nazis.

Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?

Nobody who hears or says "feminazi" thinks that it means the feminists in question are literal nazis, so of course he wouldn't take a similarly hardline stance when that term is used.

Not that I agree with Zeus, mind you, I just think your rebuttal is dumb.

While your point would be valid if that was all he was doing, his current schitck is quoting the ToU's position on calling people Nazis (which dates from a fairly specific time in GameFAQs history that isn't particularly applicable anymore), as well as invoking the dismissive "you call everyone you disagree with Nazis" defense. Packaging all of that together while still being okay with "feminazi" should be invoking some pretty major cognitive dissonance, for the self-aware.
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Frankly, I don't think it really matters what dealbreakers you have. Given how you act, I don't think you're going to have much pick of women anyway.
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EightySeven posted...

Nade Duck posted...

erasing history is always a good idea.

You can remember history without glorifying it. If it's truly and important historical artifact, maybe it should be in a museum. Granted it wasn't hers to destroy so she should be arrested, but removing the statues isn't necessarily erasing history.

Both of these. Keep teaching the history in museums and classes and the like, because history is important, but statues don't teach history. Statues just say "this guy was awesome!", and typically don't give any story beyond that. When a more comprehensive understanding of history reveals that the guy in question was not awesome, keeping the statue up in lieu of replacing or removing the monument is in fact suppressing that lack of awesomeness, and promoting an incomplete understanding of history.

And while taking the statue down may be the right thing to do, it is still vandalism, and should still be treated accordingly. Laws don't stop being laws just because they suck. There's a process for that which does need to be followed. When the laws eventually stop sucking, those arrested for such vandalism should be pardoned, but until then, the law is what it is, and should not be arbitrarily ignored.
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Zeus posted...

Again, not actual Nazis.

Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
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Really, I don't know how he did nazi that coming.
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Dynalo posted...

Yeah, from what I read she didn't even want this to go to court. She told the guys employer what happened, and the employer took it upon themselves to fire him over it.

He then sued her for something like $3M claiming that she lied and cost him his job and further career opportunities.

I'm not entirely sure the point of the countersue.

It's basically just to send the message of "no, grabbing people's asses is not okay," and set clear legal precedent for that message. Suing for a mere dollar was to ensure people couldn't just accuse her of exaggerating emotional damages for a quick cash-in, which people absolutely do when women try to sue for sexual harassment/assault. He was in the wrong, and she took this opportunity to make sure as many people as possible knew that.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Very first creature and what do I see



what even

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Well, I did just start a new Path of Exile character last night, after not touching the game for several months, so probably that. That should last me the month without getting boring.
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Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Lol adjl is breaking

Some things warrant a little extra emphasis. I never imagined "Nazis are bad," would be one of them, but I guess that's where the world is these days.
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SomeUsername529 posted...

If I ever catch myself saying something like "happy wife, happy life" I'm going to just end it.

I mean, there's some validity to it. If you keep your partner's happiness as a priority, things end up being pretty good. Just don't sacrifice too much of your own happiness for it (it's not the only priority), and if you're in a relationship with somebody whose happiness is mutually exclusive of your own, maybe consider ending that relationship.
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Zeus posted...

No, being a literal Nazi would mean going back in time to join the literal Nazi party.

Literally the only way that statement is valid is if you deliberately choose such a narrow definition of "literal Nazi" that being a literal Nazi is impossible, rendering the term literally useless. Far as I'm concerned, "identifying strongly with the ideals of the Nazi party and congregating with like-minded individuals for the sake of actively campaigning to have those ideals integrated into society" is close enough to literally being a Nazi that I don't particularly care about minor technicalities like the original literal Nazi party not existing anymore. These men are the American Nazi Party. No degree of pedantic obfuscation is going to change that. Look at these fucking Nazis, and call them the fucking Nazis they are. Stop literally defending Nazis.

Zeus posted...

You're trying to discredit individuals by associating them with Nazis

THEY ARE LITERALLY CARRYING NAZI FLAGS AND THROWING NAZI SALUTES. THEY DON'T NEED ANYONE TO ASSOCIATE THEM WITH NAZIS, BECAUSE THEY ARE LITERALLY PLAYING NAZI DRESS-UP. There's playing Devil's advocate, and then there's literally defending Nazis from people that are calling them Nazis. What is wrong with you?

Zeus posted...

The fact that you're calling everybody you don't like Nazis tells me you should try reading history books instead of burning them.

I don't call everyone I don't like Nazis. I never have, and the fact that you think I have suggests that your delusions are starting to take over your life to an excessive degree. I call people Nazis when they identify strongly with Nazi ideals, promote policies consistent with those of Nazi Germany, and LITERALLY WAVE SWASTIKA FLAGS AROUND. These are Nazis.
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Zeus posted...

1) I think you need a refresher on what literal means.

You start waving around a Nazi flag and throwing Nazi salutes, you're a literal Nazi. Trying to dance around that with extra words and euphemisms that make it sound less Nazitastic doesn't change that. These are literal Nazis.

Zeus posted...

2) That attitude is EXACTLY what's prompting counter-attacks. You brand one side evil and then justify attacking them, sooner or later you piss off that side enough to strike back.

Nazis are evil. Again, dunno how you missed this particular 70-year-old memo. This is not some arbitrary branding, this is something that's been universally accepted for over 70 years (except by literal Nazis, who, by virtue of being literal Nazis, have relinquished their right to not be mocked into shameful silence). Nazism no longer has any legitimacy whatsoever as a position, and anyone who doesn't understand why needs to pick up a goddamn history book, not start rallying for their right to express opinions that no human should ever hold again.
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Zeus posted...

Given that violent terrorist groups like Antifa have repeatedly brought weapons and attacked both alt-right and conservative protests, a violent response like this was inevitable.

I mean, attacking literal nazis is kind of what the free world is supposed to do. Or did you miss that 70-year-old memo?
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I wouldn't trust the quality of the water it was raised in if it looked like that.
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2010 Ford Flex
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Rasmoh posted...

While it would normally be repugnant for one to do such a thing, it instead becomes the only choice because the other side is constantly attacking them simply for being white.

I like how, no more than a year ago, these same people were criticizing tumblrinas for being fragile snowflakes that couldn't handle dissenting viewpoints. And yet now becoming a literal Nazi because of a little name-calling (that gets hideously exaggerated) is considered a reasonable response that's easy to empathize with? Now who's pathetically thin-skinned...
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Thanks, Obama.
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I mean, it's a free demo. Checking it out yourself is going to give you a far more useful answer to your question than asking other people for opinions, while costing nothing.
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I have never known such sadness as this.
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Delicinq4 posted...

She legit has AIDS lmao fuck no I wouldnt.

You're not going to contract HIV from touching boobs, unless by "touching" you mean "rubbing an open wound against an open wound she happens to have on her boobs."
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helIy posted...

also, the pink shirt doesn't have a collar

Full Throttle posted...

all students wear a collared and/or crew neck top

Now, what makes it the "wrong kind" of crew neck, I don't know. But lacking a collar is keeping with the dress code. At that point, though, if they're going to be both that restrictive and that arbitrary, they might as well just have a uniform.
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I mean, gas-powered cars basically paid for 9/11, so I guess that's better than exploitative mining practices that could potentially be cracked down on.
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Zeus posted...

Kind of like when you saw people crying when Obama left office =p

Not really.
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TES_Nut posted...

the people at large are against the tiny despots rule.

I don't know about that. People were pretty devastated when Kim Jong Il died. The kind of grief we saw then certainly didn't seem like they were a disgruntled populace that were against his rule. It seemed more like they were so thoroughly brainwashed that he was the most important thing in their lives.
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