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I'd say IV. XI is up there for introducing new players now considering it feels like classic Dragon Quest while being more accessible and having a ton of QoL changes that really improve the experience.
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If they would have developed it from the start it wouldn't be a bad expectation to have. Problem is they wasted nearly three years by giving it to another developer known for C tier PS2 JRPGs and pretty Naruto games. That was never going to turn out well, and now they're facing the consequences and having to make up for lost time themselves.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Jontron put out a good video about this. He basically bought a bunch of Chinese knock-off emulator machines and is selling them for double the price of Amazon. XD

Everyone and their mom called him out for it before Jontron.
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rikasa posted...

i'm sure it was a typo somehow lol. he deleted it so it's not like he's gonna defend that number

He deleted it because he used the insensitive f word in response to someone. But he's still full of shit.
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3DSRage posted...

Vamp, terra, MegaTech are from where??

I'm a mafia guy. Usually on CE or the mafia board, but I've also played here plenty of times as well.
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He actually said five million sales in the original tweet, and before that all of his tweets were in reference to dollar amount sold, so I don't think he meant units.

That being said, I call horseshit. I know there are idiots out there, but I refuse to believe that many people actually bought into this crappy console. He's asking to get sued too.
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One of the best movies of the year and definitely the best Spider-Man movie.
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Sure, I'm in. Thanks for the heads up @IfGodCouldDie
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Blue_Inigo posted...

CE is dying, specifically

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electricbugs2 posted...

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Hairistotle posted...

are u the guy who dates 16 year olds

I did once but that was a few years back.

CE still likes to whine about it.

it's really creepy >_>

were u older than 19?

Yes I was 23, she was 16/17. Perfectly legal.

What a weird thing to brag about. Kinda creepy tbh
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frozenshock posted...

It's so embarrassing

Yes, paying for a porn sub is indeed embarrassing.

Thats the real embarassment right there.

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Dont know what you're on. It was a straight banger.
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How did you forget the big name games like KH3, Resident Evil Remake 2, Seikiro, DMC, Days Gone, Anthem, etc? The list in the OP would make me question the quality of 2019 if that's all there was to it.
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Seems like a list intentionally bad to trigger people lol.

Switch and PS4 are the defacto at the top for all their top tier exclusives. If there's an Xbox exclusive I want to play (and there aren't many to begin with) I can just pop out my PC. Can't play games like Spider-Man, GoW, TLOU, Mario, Zelda, Smash, Splatoon, etc if I only owned a PC.
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CloneTheHero posted...

i mean isnt europe having issues with their borders and an influx of foreigners? im all for a secure border but a wall seems excessive.

we need to set up some kind of neutral zone at the border with both us and mexican governments contributing to some kind of relief fund, temp housing for families.

Yeah immigration isn't the issue, the stupidly expensive wall is the problem. It would make more sense to do something like use a fraction of the funds to supply jobs in reinforcing border security and hiring more people to safeguard it. Not spend a shitton on a damn wall.

The wall is the dumbest freaking meme, especially when people's healthcare is at stake here.
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Darmik posted...

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Terra-enforcer posted...

According to Mat Piscatella Pokemon would only be third place even if combined.

If that's the case then it still beat out Fallout 76, meaning the only games that Fallout 76 beat out were the Spyro Reignited Trilogy and the three sports games that came out in the fall.

And Hitman 2

TBF everything beat Hitman 2 lol.

I feel bad for IO. They definitely deserved better than this.

Darmik posted...

Only game that's close to being linear is God of War. That ended up being a huge 30 hour game with a shitload of side content and is one of the highest reviewed games of all time. Spider-man is an open world game and Battlefront 2 is a multiplayer game.

Hitman 2 is a good game and it isn't selling. Prey, Dishonored 2 and Wolfenstein 2 were all good and they didn't sell. Even the last two Tomb Raider games were solid and they didn't sell too well.

In order to be a single player game that sells well you basically need to be a critically acclaimed open world game or an entry of a long, established IP.

That's basically the definition of being less popular than a decade ago.

Meanwhile Fallout 76 is a buggy mess that still sells because it's got multiplayer.

To the credit of those games they're all over a million units sold now. Fallout might get there as well, but I imagine it'd have one heck of a hard time reaching it. Like I said, Piscatella expects it to drop hard very soon. And bad word of mouth will only hurt it even more.
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cjsdowg posted...

Pokemon would have beat them if it wasn't two games, and the other stuff have been out longer. So they got a good push with per-orders. If they were doing so well they would not be 39 dollars right now. So they beat games that were already out ... that is not a win.

If they didn't have the fallout name with it then , they would not have done that.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Also, keep in mind that Pokemon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu are Switch exclusive titles and they're not even mainline Pokemon games, plus it's a dual-release so sales will naturally be cut in half, so of course they're going to sell less than a multiplatform, unless I'm missing something.

According to Mat Piscatella Pokemon would only be third place even if combined.

I'm also not sure I buy the Pokemon excuse considering combined Sun/Moon were number 1 for their month, and they are HALF the price of LGPE. But yeah that still doesn't mean the game isn't successful. It still has the second highest Switch debut after all.
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The NPD Analysts expect it to drop like a rock next month. Also don't forget this is North America alone.
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Hard to say given how experimental Nintendo can be, but I can see evolutions of the Switch line being what they go with moving forward.
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Taylor doesn't have a ton of ass to show, but at least she has one. Brie I'm not even sure has anything there.
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Hop103 posted...

Get used to sub only, 95% of anime fans want original Japanese voices.

That isn't true. And that's definitely not why this game lacks dub.
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mew4ever posted...

Cant be louder than the original ps4s. Mine from launch makes so much damn noise

He says the new ones are quieter, not louder.
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I got mine with the RDR2 bundle and mine is so quiet you wouldn't believe it coming from the base PS4. That was loud as shit even when playing games like Knack, but now my new one only gets loud with things like when downloading updates. Any other time even when playing games as intensive as RDR2 it won't make a peep. It was worth upgrading for that and harddrive space alone tbh. I hated the jet engine that was my launch PS4.
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With as many series as are being represented, it should have been a given honestly.
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htaeD posted...

Reg posted...

htaeD posted...

I can see town Terra just being biased enough to dislike anything you do once he decided you were scum.

That's not town play. At all.

Its not good play. But I have dealt with town who were stubborn enough to do so.

Really though, I dont have enough of an overall view of Terra to make this kind of call now.

That's not where I'm coming from at all. Where I'm coming from is someone was grasping for reasons to call me scum initially only because I suspected him, and his reasoning since has been just as weak. And now when I point out for the fifth time why his main argument against me doesn't make sense, he just ignores it and tries to lynch me anyway. THAT isn't good play since it makes it come across as if he's trying to find reasons to vote me as the game progresses just to push for my lynch which is silly.
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Reg posted...

Seriously

Let's lynch Terra.

It's very blatant at this point that he was perfectly content to fuck off and let the lynch go as it was.

This is scum, folks.

I love how when your last argument runs out, you just say "let's lynch him just cause." Pathetic, and like I said before, this behavior is why I'm not budging.
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htaeD posted...

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htaeD posted...

The contradiction is that in the first post it sounded like you were saying scumReg would never pass up the chance to go after Eaed who already looked bad.
But somehow him not going after Eaed made him scummier..

That is not what I was saying. Like holy shit man, I can only repeat myself so many times before it just gets annoying as hell. I LITERALLY explained this multiple times already. I ruled out a scumteam consisting of of SCUM REG + SCUM EAED with that line of thought. Never was the implication that either of you couldn't be scum. Hopefully for the fourth freaking time it's been said it finally gets through.

Okay so, scumEaed would have been bussed by scumReg is what you are saying.
But then was was this a necessary point 3 in your list that warranted voting Reg?

It wasn't a "necessary point 3." It was just something of note I noticed and brought to attention.
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Reg posted...

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Reg posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

If we want to go the inactive route, and admittedly this choice is somewhat arbitrary, my brain chooses terra.

Terra's 'activity' over the past couple hours consists entirely of taking shots at me for trying to probe into and figure out Neab while providing literally nothing himself. Not the most arbitrary imo.

If you actually bothered reading my posts, you're the one lying through your teeth here. Once again only seeing what you want to see.

These four(! screw quote block limits) posts full of quotes encompass every single post Terra has made since calling out my Neab vote. Will somebody please explain to me where he called out Sheep or did basically anything except taking shots at me? He has one post talking about HB. That's it as far as I can see.

Or do we need to lynch this guy?

We're in the last few moments of the day. No shit now more (but NOT all) of my posts are concerning the top lynch picks. The same should go for anyone as this is something that has to be decided in the next few minutes.
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Reg posted...

Also bonus:

htaeD posted...

Reg, Terra gave a second explanation about that whole thing

Furthermore, if it wasn't clear, if eaed is indeed town, you avoiding him for a random inactive vote works against your case further since scum wouldn't want to link themselves to a growing mislynch when it was already gaining enough traction as is.

Though thats not what at all what I got from his initial vote post.

Same, which is why I said he was trying to walk it back when he realized his original logic was crap.

It's not my logic that is crap, it's you're weird reading that's crap here.
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htaeD posted...

The contradiction is that in the first post it sounded like you were saying scumReg would never pass up the chance to go after Eaed who already looked bad.
But somehow him not going after Eaed made him scummier..

That is not what I was saying. Like holy shit man, I can only repeat myself so many times before it just gets annoying as hell. I LITERALLY explained this multiple times already. I ruled out a scumteam consisting of of SCUM REG + SCUM EAED with that line of thought. Never was the implication that either of you couldn't be scum. Hopefully for the fourth freaking time it's been said it finally gets through.
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htaeD posted...

Reg, Terra gave a second explanation about that whole thing

Furthermore, if it wasn't clear, if eaed is indeed town, you avoiding him for a random inactive vote works against your case further since scum wouldn't want to link themselves to a growing mislynch when it was already gaining enough traction as is.

Though thats not what at all what I got from his initial vote post.

It's why I keep posing the question as to where the contradiction lies to you and Reg. There would be a contradiction if the implication in my post were that Reg is town, but I EXPLICITLY stated numerous times that isn't the case at all, so again, where's your reasoning?
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@htaeD posted...

Still looking back. I do think half the votes on Reg are pretty bad.
I can even see Regs counter argument towards Terra.. Half of it. It does sound like he was piling on arguments to call Reg scum even though two of them were contradictory. And Terra's explanation of this was just a 'if you dont get it, dont even try'

Also I dont find sheep to be rude up there.
If anything, Ben is periodically far ruder than I remember his townself being.

What of it was in any way contradictory. I'm curious to see if you truly believe that or you're just bouncing off of what Reg already said. And never did I say what you quoted of me, so I have no idea where that's even coming from.
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Reg posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

If we want to go the inactive route, and admittedly this choice is somewhat arbitrary, my brain chooses terra.

Terra's 'activity' over the past couple hours consists entirely of taking shots at me for trying to probe into and figure out Neab while providing literally nothing himself. Not the most arbitrary imo.

If you actually bothered reading my posts, you're the one lying through your teeth here. Once again only seeing what you want to see.
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Reg posted...

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It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing.

Holy shit could you possibly be lying through your teeth any harder?

I'm here. I'm talking to the guy and trying to get him to provide things the game can use to read him. It's like pulling fucking teeth (Which is itself useful information), but I'm at least fucking trying. Unlike you, who's sitting around, doing jack shit besides taking pot shots at me.

I've done more than that. If you want to ignore it then I couldn't give a damn. I called out sheep a few times, put in my two cents on who I think is a town lean versus scum lean, and I've noted connections such as with eaed and yourself. I'm not going to act like I've been driving the game, but you shouldn't be either. Your initial poke was weak is what I was referring to.

What you did at the time of my post amounted to "you gonna play or not" which isn't what I would call putting in work by any means. Like I said, just comes across as an excuse for an out. Hence the vote and dash.
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Hbthebattle posted...

I mean nobody even asked Neab any questions

Exactly. If this is an effort to scum hunt, voting then twiddling their thumbs is a pretty poor execution of it.

Sheep007 posted...

But Neab is here. Jedi wasn't, I think. There's a massive difference

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

It's getting to a case of too little too late if there isn't actually a decent argument to be made against Neab, but obviously that doesn't mean you can't go back at it at a more opportune time later.
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htaeD posted...

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You know what? I trust Han. Im totally willing to go for Reg today and eaed tomorrow.

##Unvote
##Vote: Reg

Not thrilled with timing of this vote, but he did show progression

And after last game I can feel him finding confidence in han and be open to following him. Maybe as both alighment though. Depends who is the main head in the scum team. If corrik is top dog he is usually a bit more hands off irrc

HB claimed to be willing to follow others easily last game though.
He is starting to worry me. But I cant deny his logic holds up.

I get where you're coming from but my only concern there is would he be so blatantly open about it after being scum literally just last game? Seems like a pretty obvious flaw in his scum play that he'd be wary of if there was a next time. I think he even mentioned as much in the endgame.
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Sheep007 posted...

Should people just ignore inactives and go for more active players when scumhunting, then? Never going to find anything out if there's no pressure.

That wasn't the implication whatsoever. But you're only going to get so much info dashing for an inactive two days before the end of day. Doesn't come across as the most viable target for scum hunting, especially when those kinds of outs rarely turn out well if said player continues to remain inactive. That kind of turn is what hurt us day 1 last game, and I've seen similar cases plenty of times before.
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Reg posted...

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What do you honestly think such a random vote supposed to do like two hours before EoD?

Flip it around. We still have two hours to get as much information as possible onto the table.

You want me to just languish on a lynch until then? Seriously?

Info is fine, but that's why I specified "random lynch." I don't recall you mentioning much of anything about him before now. And pressure to info generally entails more than a weak vote and some filler text. Seems more like you're looking for an out than legitimately scum hunting here.
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ScareChan posted...

Oh did we scummon neab

Neat

##unvote
##vote: neab

Follow me if you want to live (or get shot)

What is the case supposed to be against him to begin with? Only times I've heard anything against him were in reference to lack of activity.
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Reg posted...

oh hey

Neab showed up

##Unvote
##Vote: Neab

Let's have a quick, friendly chat, shall we? =)

What do you honestly think such a random vote supposed to do like two hours before EoD? It's like you're not even trying to make it look like an efficient effort to scum hunt.
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Reg posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Reg posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

YOU are the one who didn't even respond to all my points against you which I guess means you concede to those faults.

Your points are literally contradictory and self-defeating. I don't need to defend myself from that crap.

This was the post I meant to quote with, "Can you explain why?"

I did multiple times earlier. He laid out a lot of crap about why my actions didn't make sense. He tried to back-walk it with "but I think eaed is town", but that still defeats the whole purpose of any of that logic, because that makes the whole thing totally invalid.

No it doesn't and if you can read worth a darn I don't know where this is even coming from. NOWHERE in my post am I saying what you keep insisting. Once again, please stop twisting my words when I have laid it out plainly what I said almost half a dozen times now. It is in no way contradictory, and it doesn't just "not make sense" because you disagree with it. You're not giving me any reason to think any better of you while you consistently intentionally lie and ignore my explanations.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Reg posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Don't twist my words into making it what you want to hear. Blatantly twisting people's words to grasp for an argument only makes you look worse in my eyes. It's one thing to disagree with my logic and counter it, but you're clearly not even interpreting what I said as telegraphed.

You literally said my actions w.r.t eaed make no sense for me as scum.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Personally I'm still not feeling the eaed lynch, but I could definitely go for a Reg push. I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day. His MZero vote still doesn't make any sense to me, and almost signifies to me if Reg is indeed scum that IGCD was just a failed lynch so he wanted to look like he was putting pressure elsewhere. Which also makes me question would a scum Reg pass up the opportunity to bus eaed if he is assumed to be scum as well? It would make more sense than randomly voting an inactive late into the first half of the day when main lynches were already being formed.

How the hell you see that from what I said is beyond me. The context is built on the idea of a scum eaed AND scum Reg. If I lean town on one of you and scum on the other, it doesn't take two brain cells to see that you both being scum can't possibly be the case according to this line of logic. My point is that I don't see you and eaed being scum.

Furthermore, if it wasn't clear, if eaed is indeed town, you avoiding him for a random inactive vote works against your case further since scum wouldn't want to link themselves to a growing mislynch when it was already gaining enough traction as is.
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Reg posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Don't twist my words into making it what you want to hear. Blatantly twisting people's words to grasp for an argument only makes you look worse in my eyes. It's one thing to disagree with my logic and counter it, but you're clearly not even interpreting what I said as telegraphed.

You literally said my actions w.r.t eaed make no sense for me as scum.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Personally I'm still not feeling the eaed lynch, but I could definitely go for a Reg push. I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day. His MZero vote still doesn't make any sense to me, and almost signifies to me if Reg is indeed scum that IGCD was just a failed lynch so he wanted to look like he was putting pressure elsewhere. Which also makes me question would a scum Reg pass up the opportunity to bus eaed if he is assumed to be scum as well? It would make more sense than randomly voting an inactive late into the first half of the day when main lynches were already being formed.

How the hell you see that from what I said is beyond me. The context is built on the idea of a scum eaed AND scum Reg. If I lean town on one of you and scum on the other, it doesn't take two brain cells to see that you both being scum can't possibly be the case according to this line of logic. My point is that I don't see you and eaed being scum.
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Reg posted...

(Spoilers, I ask you to do that because I think it's pretty clear that scum's pushing my lynch from various angles, and I'd like to make that fact clear to the game. And since you won't be able to support Terra's piss poor excuse for reasoning there, it'll just make it more clear to anybody actually reading)

Biggest fucking eyeroll mate. It's like you're not even trying anymore and just trying to call out whoever you can as scum to divert attention. Especially when as I explained in my response, you're not even bothering to read my argument properly. Seems more of a fault of your "piss poor" reading if you don't comprehend the angle I was coming from with that post.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Reg and Eaed I'm thinking might not be scum aligned because of how they were both the sole players pushing HB for a period there. Unless they stumbled into it on accident

Agreed. Voting patterns is an easy way to link players, so outside of highly contested lynch picks you won't often see scummates aligned. That's also in part why I made a similar connection between Reg and Eaed before, but I clearly lean one over the other if one of them is indeed scum.
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Reg posted...

His claims:
1) My push for IGCD was weak
2) IGCD was a failed lynch that I wanted off
3) If Reg was scum, he'd bus eaed
4) Reg didn't bus eaed, which doesn't make sense, but he's scum anyways

Regarding IGCD, of fucking course it was weak. The only purpose at all was to move the game out of the joke phase. And I moved on once that was done

Doesn't make it seem any less advantageous and one hell of a reach, hence my issue with it. And it's not like you were the one to move the game out of the joke phase anyway. Not sure how you forgot that you only hopped on IGCD after Red egged you on. So upon rereading, I'm not sure how much I even buy that excuse. The game was already moving on before you even entered.

3 and 4 are literally self-defeating arguments if the claim is I'm scum, too.

This vote is awful, lazy, and opportunistic.

I have no idea how the hell your brain is working my guy, but that's not remotely what I'm saying. I emphasized that I lean town on eaed, so my position should be abundantly clear. No shit I'm not saying you're town if my vote is on you. Don't twist my words into making it what you want to hear. Blatantly twisting people's words to grasp for an argument only makes you look worse in my eyes. It's one thing to disagree with my logic and counter it, but you're clearly not even interpreting what I said as telegraphed.

And you also forgot when I mentioned I didn't like your nothing of a MZero vote that went literally nowhere and amounted to nothing. Seemed more like an excuse to get out the IGCD vote unscathed more than anything (as I said before).
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Reg posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Reg posted...

Also 'oh' one of the useless idle sacks of shit shows up and jumps on me.

This train is so blatantly scum driven, it's sort of funny.

Excuse me, I'm in THE OFFICIAL notebook OF CONFIRMED TOWN

But really, who all do you think is scum on you?

Hard to say for sure. But the whole thing where literally everybody in the game seems to think I'm scum really feels like that's getting pushed and set up.

Your vote in particular reeks since there's nothing but mega vague "scum vibes since page 1" while you've been totally useless and inactive all game. Hb's suspicion reeks of countersuspicion. Terra and Ash's votes are similarly lazy. Terra's in particular is complete and utter nonsense. Seriously, just go back and read his explanation. There's nothing to it.

Honestly the most concerning are probably the ones who say my name and haven't backed it with a vote though.

Come on now, obviously you're bias as hell, but it's just dumb to call a vote lazy when I elaborated on my reasoning and responded to you each time you tried to counter a point I found against you. YOU are the one who didn't even respond to all my points against you which I guess means you concede to those faults.

Reg posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?

I'd expect such transparency more from a town player than from scum honestly.

ScareChan posted...

What are your thoughts on battle

I specified sheep because he was the one who claimed him to be "confirmed town" after so little had occurred, so I was basically just reevaluating the claim since he was pushed to the forefront since then. So not really sure how my thoughts on him are relevant, but if you really wanna know it's mostly a null read. He hasn't done anything in particular that stands out as "towny" other than coming across as genuine in some of his actions. His more recent vote on Reg in particular, as I'd expect a noob as scum to be less liberal with their voting, especially when the Reg train was already growing at a high pace.
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They made the anime to compensate for the clusterfuck that is the XV Season 2 of dlc. They said it would be able to explain whatever they didn't have time to add in the dlc itself since most of it got cancelled.
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Reg posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day.

Congratulations, you can put one and one together to understand why I was voting igcd, but you can't put one and two together to actually link my desire to move past the joke phase with my igcd vote.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Also side note, but DYL is going under the radar heavy. This is his only post so far and it's pretty bad.

Agreed with this. It's super obnoxious because I think over half the game has less than five posts each.

It's day 1 in a mafia game. If you're such a vet you should expect that phase by now regardless, and voting someone specifically because of that comes across as grasping for a reason to push someone. IGCD wasn't even the only one shitposting, so I don't see why you singled him out in particular other than him being an easier target.

Doesn't take much to understand wanting to move past that phase of the day, but it's the way you went about it that I'm disagreeing with.
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