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Reg
12/18/18 1:53:48 PM
#251:


benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
Also 'oh' one of the useless idle sacks of shit shows up and jumps on me.

This train is so blatantly scum driven, it's sort of funny.

Excuse me, I'm in THE OFFICIAL notebook OF CONFIRMED TOWN

But really, who all do you think is scum on you?

Hard to say for sure. But the whole thing where literally everybody in the game seems to think I'm scum really feels like that's getting pushed and set up.

Your vote in particular reeks since there's nothing but mega vague "scum vibes since page 1" while you've been totally useless and inactive all game. Hb's suspicion reeks of countersuspicion. Terra and Ash's votes are similarly lazy. Terra's in particular is complete and utter nonsense. Seriously, just go back and read his explanation. There's nothing to it.

Honestly the most concerning are probably the ones who say my name and haven't backed it with a vote though.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 1:54:32 PM
#252:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I don't like Han the most right now.

##Unvote

If Ed flips scum some of that distrust will be alleviated but right now I feel Han could really be scum here.

What don't you like?

I don't know. I've never been good at articulating my opinions in mafia.

Okay. Well you're probably town for not making something up here.
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eaedwards6400
12/18/18 1:56:21 PM
#253:


benjamin3740 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Doesn't it seem weird how Reg and Eaed jumped on me as soon as they were provided another option?

Because that's literally what hombad and i did on Jedi last game.


And literally what you did on me this game. You're squirming right now.

Who was he on before you?


He was not but my point was twofold. One, he jumped onto a lynch that was already building with very little evidence and he reacted to pressure as if he was the lynch leader when at the time I had 6 votes and he only had three. I mean under three votes this is the same man who was desperate enough to bring my kids into the game. I definitely feel as if it is worth putting more votes here and while I am not in a position of power to demand these kind of things I would urge everyone to consider it.

I am trying my best to keep up to date guys but we had a payroll emergency today and I run the payroll software so I am doing my best to stay up to date and hope to have some commentary for you soon.

I think he was commenting on the fact you said you were leaving. Your kids were not the subject of the sentence. I dont think it;s fair to say he used them as any sort of ammo or anything like that.


Hbthebattle posted...
Oh and its nice to see eaed still being here despite saying he had to go take care of his kids. Real smooth, that one.


That's not how I read it. With his sarcasm at the end it made it feel as if I was using my kids as a reason to leave.
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Dark Young Link
12/18/18 1:56:38 PM
#254:


ScareChan posted...
immediately challenged you, came in relaxed otherwise, feels like he is paying attention to post details which means he is hunting. A lot of promising things picked up early imo


This is talking about IGCD if I'm not mistaken. You really got all of that from IGCD's early posting?

eaedwards6400 posted...
I went and reread... maybe I just hold scare to a higher regard because neither Scare or IGCD do anything but fluff in the first four pages. So I'm going to stick to voting for Scare because IGCD is well covered. Also, Red could be considered a culprit too but I felt there was at least a little scum hunting in between the fluff votes. I retract my statement on Red probably town to leaning town.


I don't get this. You say "Scare and IGCD act the same"... but you don't want to vote for IGCD? You think the few votes on him are "well covered"?

Honestly reading over eaed right now it seems like he's reading a newbie guide on how to play as town. I know he's played games before,he keeps going on about "I voted Scare to add pressure" in a way that almost seems robotic.

Later claims Sojiro Sakura Town VA. I don't know much about the flavor, but if what HB says is true then that really doesn't help eaed's case.

Reg posted...
So unless you think scum Eaed literally didn't have flavor ready to claim with, I'm pretty sure he just doesn't know how to competently paraphrase (Though at least he's not incompetently paraphrasing in the modkill-worthy way <_<). Not sure this is an issue tbh.


So you believe Eaed is town then?

eaedwards6400 posted...
I absolutely love this post because I wish I would have seen this myself. Also, let's apply some pressure.

##Unvote
##Vote: HB

I very much want to see where this goes.


And yeah, this shit right here. "I'm doing this to apply pressure." Except you openly stated it, so you really aren't adding much pressure because you're suggesting you don't actually want to kill HB.

eaedwards6400 posted...
HB do not bring my kids into this again. I said that when I was leaving swimming. My wife said that she didn't have to leave until later so I am still here now.

Don't. Ever. Try to use my kids against me.


... Wait, did I miss something? Was someone doing this?

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Corrik posted...
Voting scum. Laying my life on the line for those who deserve it.


You're voting Sheep right? Whats your scum read on him?

Alright, let me go over a few people in particular...
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ScareChan
12/18/18 1:56:45 PM
#255:


Thinking of something

Ed hosted last game, hb was scum last game. Ed gave us safe list and even helped us out giving us an extra guy, but flavor I believe we mostly did on our own but I believe was offered to us

I am curious as to why neither one of them, specifically ed though, didnt bring that up when they were going at each other and the main issue was the claim

Also I feel red should have chimed in his thoughts on that based on that too
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 1:58:56 PM
#256:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
Also 'oh' one of the useless idle sacks of shit shows up and jumps on me.

This train is so blatantly scum driven, it's sort of funny.

Excuse me, I'm in THE OFFICIAL notebook OF CONFIRMED TOWN

But really, who all do you think is scum on you?

Hard to say for sure. But the whole thing where literally everybody in the game seems to think I'm scum really feels like that's getting pushed and set up.

Your vote in particular reeks since there's nothing but mega vague "scum vibes since page 1" while you've been totally useless and inactive all game. Hb's suspicion reeks of countersuspicion. Terra and Ash's votes are similarly lazy. Terra's in particular is complete and utter nonsense. Seriously, just go back and read his explanation. There's nothing to it.

Honestly the most concerning are probably the ones who say my name and haven't backed it with a vote though.

I did comment on page 1 exactly when I thought you were scum. And i didnt get anything that felt like a towntell since then. I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

I'll go back and read it right now I guess
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ScareChan
12/18/18 1:59:35 PM
#257:


Hbthebattle posted...
You know what? I trust Han. Im totally willing to go for Reg today and eaed tomorrow.

##Unvote
##Vote: Reg


Not thrilled with timing of this vote, but he did show progression

And after last game I can feel him finding confidence in han and be open to following him. Maybe as both alighment though. Depends who is the main head in the scum team. If corrik is top dog he is usually a bit more hands off irrc
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Reg
12/18/18 1:59:52 PM
#258:


Dark Young Link posted...
So you believe Eaed is town then?

No, I'm saying eaed would only not have flavor if he were scum (and didn't ask for fake flavor from the host in advance).

Either you believe he didn't have flavor (which we discussed makes no sense) and thus he's scum, or you believe he had it (regardless of fake or real), in which case all of the nonsense around his claim is null.

You know, the exact same thing I've been saying since he claimed
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:00:51 PM
#259:


benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
Also 'oh' one of the useless idle sacks of shit shows up and jumps on me.

This train is so blatantly scum driven, it's sort of funny.

Excuse me, I'm in THE OFFICIAL notebook OF CONFIRMED TOWN

But really, who all do you think is scum on you?


It was notepad

And at the top is scribbled out guys to bus above the official town :/
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Reg
12/18/18 2:01:24 PM
#260:


benjamin3740 posted...
I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:03:18 PM
#261:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?

No I'm saying that it SOUNDED generic because I havent been able to say "I still think Reg is scum" every few hours and instead had to cite page 1 as it was the last time I said anything.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:04:57 PM
#262:


benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?

No I'm saying that it SOUNDED generic because I havent been able to say "I still think Reg is scum" every few hours and instead had to cite page 1 as it was the last time I said anything.

You're citing unsubstantiated feelings based on page fucking one instead of literally anything, and you're admitting to not reading the game.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben


Hi scum. Having fun trying to help push the easy-looking lynch?
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:06:05 PM
#263:


Ben isn't scum
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Reg
12/18/18 2:07:14 PM
#264:


ScareChan posted...
Ben isn't scum

If he's not, he's doing a mighty fine job of acting like it. His vote and subsequent defense of it makes zero fucking sense from any town perspective.
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Leafeon13N
12/18/18 2:07:18 PM
#265:


ScareChan posted...

Also I feel red should have chimed in his thoughts on that based on that too


I'm pretty sure i mentioned flavor before going to bed last night, unless i dreamed that.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:08:36 PM
#266:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?

No I'm saying that it SOUNDED generic because I havent been able to say "I still think Reg is scum" every few hours and instead had to cite page 1 as it was the last time I said anything.

You're citing unsubstantiated feelings based on page fucking one instead of literally anything, and you're admitting to not reading the game.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben


Hi scum. Having fun trying to help push the easy-looking lynch?

What do you mean unsubstantiated? My post exists on day 1 where I said exactly what was scummy about your post, so that evidence is there. I did read the game. I only said it sounded generic because I gave the whole, "I've been suspicious of this guy all day". But it's true!
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Neablis
12/18/18 2:08:51 PM
#267:


Afternoon, here for a bit

Reg besides Ben do you see any other scum that have hopped on you or pushed you specifically?

Any other reads in particular
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:10:11 PM
#268:


And I dont have a problem with Terra's vote. Are the things he said not true?
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:10:28 PM
#269:


Leafeon13N posted...
ScareChan posted...

Also I feel red should have chimed in his thoughts on that based on that too


I'm pretty sure i mentioned flavor before going to bed last night, unless i dreamed that.


I'm saying specific instance if battle vs ed on flavor mess Up as previous host and newish scum
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htaeD
12/18/18 2:13:17 PM
#270:


I feel like Han is propped up by the injustice from last game, though I imagine he would use that force regardless of his alignment.

Meanwhile I keep getting sidetracked with real life stuff and I am sorry about that.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:14:34 PM
#271:


Neablis posted...
Reg besides Ben do you see any other scum that have hopped on you or pushed you specifically?

I did lay out specifically why I thought the other votes against me were garbage at the top of this page. Hb aside, Ash and Terra with their opportunistic crap (in addition to Ben) are the ones I'd be most wary of. But again, maybe even moreso on people saying they dislike me without backing it up with a vote. Which I'd have to go double check names there and I don't feel like doing that on a phone.

benjamin3740 posted...
What do you mean unsubstantiated? My post exists on day 1 where I said exactly what was scummy about your post, so that evidence is there. I did read the game. I only said it sounded generic because I gave the whole, "I've been suspicious of this guy all day". But it's true!

benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...


And even then, I'm not just randomly shitposting here. I was planning to revisit IGCD once we got out of the pleasantries phase to see how serious his post #33 was. Neablis seems to have called it out rather bluntly though so I don't know how much value there is in that with him being able to think about it.

Does anyone else think this is extremely scummy? I've never played with Reg before, so I'm not gonna pretend to know him, but it sounds totally made up on the spot to say that he was planning on revisiting a post later. Like it was thrown out defensively to reassure us that he is looking for scum right now

This one? Yeah nah it's pretty clear lazy bullshit.
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Hbthebattle
12/18/18 2:15:31 PM
#272:


I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?
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Reg
12/18/18 2:18:35 PM
#273:


benjamin3740 posted...
And I dont have a problem with Terra's vote. Are the things he said not true?


Terra-enforcer posted...
Personally I'm still not feeling the eaed lynch, but I could definitely go for a Reg push. I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day. His MZero vote still doesn't make any sense to me, and almost signifies to me if Reg is indeed scum that IGCD was just a failed lynch so he wanted to look like he was putting pressure elsewhere. Which also makes me question would a scum Reg pass up the opportunity to bus eaed if he is assumed to be scum as well? It would make more sense than randomly voting an inactive late into the first half of the day when main lynches were already being formed.

His claims:
1) My push for IGCD was weak
2) IGCD was a failed lynch that I wanted off
3) If Reg was scum, he'd bus eaed
4) Reg didn't bus eaed, which doesn't make sense, but he's scum anyways

Regarding IGCD, of fucking course it was weak. The only purpose at all was to move the game out of the joke phase. And I moved on once that was done.

3 and 4 are literally self-defeating arguments if the claim is I'm scum, too.

This vote is awful, lazy, and opportunistic.
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:19:52 PM
#274:


Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it
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eaedwards6400
12/18/18 2:21:16 PM
#275:


masterplum posted...
Hot take

Scare is town
Han is scum


This statement is a little odd for someone who appear to be in lock step with Han.

HanOfTheNekos posted...
ftr, eaed was focusing on my arrogance because he's annoyed because he knows I'm right and thinks I'm being a jerk about it


*insert trump meme here* WRONG! Quite the contrary, I am annoyed because you are so far from right that you're letting your head get bigger.

masterplum posted...
I mean, this right here is a microcosm of why I hate day 1.

Anyone can say anything on day 1 with no consequence. There hasnt been a situation where people actually have to put their money down yet.

Will Han vote for Reg over Ed?
Will Ed actually flip scum?
Will Reg continue to not want to lynch Ed as the day comes to a close?

You cant actuslly tell what people think until they are forced to actually do it.


This is a weird post. It feels like he knows something we don't.

MZero11 posted...
Johnbobb is scum. This is such a low-risk, easy read to make just to look like he's playing. He didn't make any justification for the read either

##Vote: Johnbobb

I can't keep up with Day 1s so sorry I haven't done anything all day. Please accept scum on a silver platter to make up for it!


I also don't like this either. We have one inactive voting for another it is like a poor attempt to derail the current lynch (which at this point is me[4], reg[3], hb[3]) so it just is very off.

The number of inactives bothers me, especially Corrik. The number of people that have been on both majority lynches also bothers me as well. I am doing my best to be around guys I would rather be "bad town" than "inactive town."

Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


Because your entire reason for going at me is thought and I believe stated to be because of a claim.
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eaedwards6400
12/18/18 2:22:31 PM
#276:


ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it


I need to let you in on a little not-so-secret, I didn't pay that much attention to my own game after like day 2.
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Sheep007
12/18/18 2:23:05 PM
#277:


I don't think I've been in a game with Reg before, but I'm not leaning anywhere near as much towards scum on him as others seem to be. I'm not sure I particularly understand the case against him as a whole, or rather I feel that the points are really poorly justified.
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Hbthebattle
12/18/18 2:24:20 PM
#278:


ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it

You mean, the last game in which we had very little power and not even a Vanilla PM, let alone flavor? Remember how that fucked Pen over?

I admit it, when I first said the claim was off I didnt know Arti was making flavor for fakeclaims on request. I had no idea that eaed could be badly copying from a scum OR town flavor at the time. I fucked up there, I admit.
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Terra-enforcer
12/18/18 2:26:48 PM
#279:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...
Also 'oh' one of the useless idle sacks of shit shows up and jumps on me.

This train is so blatantly scum driven, it's sort of funny.

Excuse me, I'm in THE OFFICIAL notebook OF CONFIRMED TOWN

But really, who all do you think is scum on you?

Hard to say for sure. But the whole thing where literally everybody in the game seems to think I'm scum really feels like that's getting pushed and set up.

Your vote in particular reeks since there's nothing but mega vague "scum vibes since page 1" while you've been totally useless and inactive all game. Hb's suspicion reeks of countersuspicion. Terra and Ash's votes are similarly lazy. Terra's in particular is complete and utter nonsense. Seriously, just go back and read his explanation. There's nothing to it.

Honestly the most concerning are probably the ones who say my name and haven't backed it with a vote though.

Come on now, obviously you're bias as hell, but it's just dumb to call a vote lazy when I elaborated on my reasoning and responded to you each time you tried to counter a point I found against you. YOU are the one who didn't even respond to all my points against you which I guess means you concede to those faults.

Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I made a very generic statement, but i kinda had to because I missed so much and can only comment on you again now.

Ok so you admit you're just hopping onto a lynch based on nothing?

Does anybody else see this? Seriously?

I'd expect such transparency more from a town player than from scum honestly.

ScareChan posted...
What are your thoughts on battle

I specified sheep because he was the one who claimed him to be "confirmed town" after so little had occurred, so I was basically just reevaluating the claim since he was pushed to the forefront since then. So not really sure how my thoughts on him are relevant, but if you really wanna know it's mostly a null read. He hasn't done anything in particular that stands out as "towny" other than coming across as genuine in some of his actions. His more recent vote on Reg in particular, as I'd expect a noob as scum to be less liberal with their voting, especially when the Reg train was already growing at a high pace.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:28:45 PM
#280:


Terra-enforcer posted...
YOU are the one who didn't even respond to all my points against you which I guess means you concede to those faults.

Your points are literally contradictory and self-defeating. I don't need to defend myself from that crap.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:30:58 PM
#281:


That said, Ben either didn't read them, was dumb enough to fall for it, or was scum using it to justify his own vote, so I did have to tear your shit apart.
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eaedwards6400
12/18/18 2:31:35 PM
#282:


Hbthebattle posted...
ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it

You mean, the last game in which we had very little power and not even a Vanilla PM, let alone flavor? Remember how that fucked Pen over?

I admit it, when I first said the claim was off I didnt know Arti was making flavor for fakeclaims on request. I had no idea that eaed could be badly copying from a scum OR town flavor at the time. I fucked up there, I admit.


Okay. You are backing down on your own thoughts and then attempting to throw my game under the bus on top of that? I am telling you guys this guy needs votes.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:31:37 PM
#283:


Reg posted...
Neablis posted...
Reg besides Ben do you see any other scum that have hopped on you or pushed you specifically?

I did lay out specifically why I thought the other votes against me were garbage at the top of this page. Hb aside, Ash and Terra with their opportunistic crap (in addition to Ben) are the ones I'd be most wary of. But again, maybe even moreso on people saying they dislike me without backing it up with a vote. Which I'd have to go double check names there and I don't feel like doing that on a phone.

benjamin3740 posted...
What do you mean unsubstantiated? My post exists on day 1 where I said exactly what was scummy about your post, so that evidence is there. I did read the game. I only said it sounded generic because I gave the whole, "I've been suspicious of this guy all day". But it's true!

benjamin3740 posted...
Reg posted...


And even then, I'm not just randomly shitposting here. I was planning to revisit IGCD once we got out of the pleasantries phase to see how serious his post #33 was. Neablis seems to have called it out rather bluntly though so I don't know how much value there is in that with him being able to think about it.

Does anyone else think this is extremely scummy? I've never played with Reg before, so I'm not gonna pretend to know him, but it sounds totally made up on the spot to say that he was planning on revisiting a post later. Like it was thrown out defensively to reassure us that he is looking for scum right now

This one? Yeah nah it's pretty clear lazy bullshit.

I voiced why I was suspicious of you, and posted my legitimate thoughts on what you did. So unless you think I'm scum pulling it out of thin air, it's not bullshit.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:33:15 PM
#284:


benjamin3740 posted...
So unless you think I'm scum pulling it out of thin air, it's not bullshit.

It just so happens that I believe that exact idea thanks to this conversation! The original post was nonsense and unfounded, and it's literally all you've cited as reason to vote me besides Terra's even worse reasoning.
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Hbthebattle
12/18/18 2:34:09 PM
#285:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it

You mean, the last game in which we had very little power and not even a Vanilla PM, let alone flavor? Remember how that fucked Pen over?

I admit it, when I first said the claim was off I didnt know Arti was making flavor for fakeclaims on request. I had no idea that eaed could be badly copying from a scum OR town flavor at the time. I fucked up there, I admit.


Okay. You are backing down on your own thoughts and then attempting to throw my game under the bus on top of that? I am telling you guys this guy needs votes.

Dont worry, eaed. I still think youre scum for far more reasons than your flavor.
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Reg
12/18/18 2:35:08 PM
#286:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
And I dont have a problem with Terra's vote. Are the things he said not true?


Terra-enforcer posted...
Personally I'm still not feeling the eaed lynch, but I could definitely go for a Reg push. I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day. His MZero vote still doesn't make any sense to me, and almost signifies to me if Reg is indeed scum that IGCD was just a failed lynch so he wanted to look like he was putting pressure elsewhere. Which also makes me question would a scum Reg pass up the opportunity to bus eaed if he is assumed to be scum as well? It would make more sense than randomly voting an inactive late into the first half of the day when main lynches were already being formed.

His claims:
1) My push for IGCD was weak
2) IGCD was a failed lynch that I wanted off
3) If Reg was scum, he'd bus eaed
4) Reg didn't bus eaed, which doesn't make sense, but he's scum anyways

Regarding IGCD, of fucking course it was weak. The only purpose at all was to move the game out of the joke phase. And I moved on once that was done.

3 and 4 are literally self-defeating arguments if the claim is I'm scum, too.

This vote is awful, lazy, and opportunistic.

Here, Ben, if you want me to humor the idea that you're town and actually thinking about the lynch, respond to this post.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:35:50 PM
#287:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
And I dont have a problem with Terra's vote. Are the things he said not true?


Terra-enforcer posted...
Personally I'm still not feeling the eaed lynch, but I could definitely go for a Reg push. I didn't like his push for IGCD. It felt very weak, and he really tried making a push over the joke phase of the day. His MZero vote still doesn't make any sense to me, and almost signifies to me if Reg is indeed scum that IGCD was just a failed lynch so he wanted to look like he was putting pressure elsewhere. Which also makes me question would a scum Reg pass up the opportunity to bus eaed if he is assumed to be scum as well? It would make more sense than randomly voting an inactive late into the first half of the day when main lynches were already being formed.

His claims:
1) My push for IGCD was weak
2) IGCD was a failed lynch that I wanted off
3) If Reg was scum, he'd bus eaed
4) Reg didn't bus eaed, which doesn't make sense, but he's scum anyways

Regarding IGCD, of fucking course it was weak. The only purpose at all was to move the game out of the joke phase. And I moved on once that was done.

3 and 4 are literally self-defeating arguments if the claim is I'm scum, too.

This vote is awful, lazy, and opportunistic.

Terra can be all three of those things as town though.

Jokes aside, I can see why he'd interpret your actions the route he did from a town perspective, which is why I didnt have a problem with it. Your counterpoints to his first two points is - "Yes, I did do exactly what you said, but it was for town reasons". Okay, good defense. But how does that hurt Terra?
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Reg
12/18/18 2:36:47 PM
#288:


(Spoilers, I ask you to do that because I think it's pretty clear that scum's pushing my lynch from various angles, and I'd like to make that fact clear to the game. And since you won't be able to support Terra's piss poor excuse for reasoning there, it'll just make it more clear to anybody actually reading)
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:36:50 PM
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Hbthebattle posted...
ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I dont understand the issue with the whole claim thing. His claim had a legitimate mistake. Why is that grounds to go after me?


There is something unique to your relationship with ed due to last game and I am curious as why neither of you mentioned it

You mean, the last game in which we had very little power and not even a Vanilla PM, let alone flavor? Remember how that fucked Pen over?

I admit it, when I first said the claim was off I didnt know Arti was making flavor for fakeclaims on request. I had no idea that eaed could be badly copying from a scum OR town flavor at the time. I fucked up there, I admit.


Its actually more on ed side. Like he should have said 'well this is what happened last game so I expect hb to act as xxx' but instead he just barreled into you
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:38:26 PM
#290:


Reg and Eaed I'm thinking might not be scum aligned because of how they were both the sole players pushing HB for a period there. Unless they stumbled into it on accident
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Terra-enforcer
12/18/18 2:38:26 PM
#291:


Reg posted...

His claims:
1) My push for IGCD was weak
2) IGCD was a failed lynch that I wanted off
3) If Reg was scum, he'd bus eaed
4) Reg didn't bus eaed, which doesn't make sense, but he's scum anyways

Regarding IGCD, of fucking course it was weak. The only purpose at all was to move the game out of the joke phase. And I moved on once that was done

Doesn't make it seem any less advantageous and one hell of a reach, hence my issue with it. And it's not like you were the one to move the game out of the joke phase anyway. Not sure how you forgot that you only hopped on IGCD after Red egged you on. So upon rereading, I'm not sure how much I even buy that excuse. The game was already moving on before you even entered.


3 and 4 are literally self-defeating arguments if the claim is I'm scum, too.

This vote is awful, lazy, and opportunistic.

I have no idea how the hell your brain is working my guy, but that's not remotely what I'm saying. I emphasized that I lean town on eaed, so my position should be abundantly clear. No shit I'm not saying you're town if my vote is on you. Don't twist my words into making it what you want to hear. Blatantly twisting people's words to grasp for an argument only makes you look worse in my eyes. It's one thing to disagree with my logic and counter it, but you're clearly not even interpreting what I said as telegraphed.

And you also forgot when I mentioned I didn't like your nothing of a MZero vote that went literally nowhere and amounted to nothing. Seemed more like an excuse to get out the IGCD vote unscathed more than anything (as I said before).
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Reg
12/18/18 2:38:51 PM
#292:


benjamin3740 posted...
Terra can be all three of those things as town though.

Jokes aside, I can see why he'd interpret your actions the route he did from a town perspective, which is why I didnt have a problem with it. Your counterpoints to his first two points is - "Yes, I did do exactly what you said, but it was for town reasons". Okay, good defense. But how does that hurt Terra?

Gentlemen, this right here is scum.

I wasn't breaking down Terra's awful logic to call him scum (though I think it's very possible). I was breaking it down because Ben claimed it was good reasoning and it was the only thing he actually cited against me.

And he's admitting the logic is bad. But still wants to cling to it.
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:40:06 PM
#293:


Reg posted...
(Spoilers, I ask you to do that because I think it's pretty clear that scum's pushing my lynch from various angles, and I'd like to make that fact clear to the game. And since you won't be able to support Terra's piss poor excuse for reasoning there, it'll just make it more clear to anybody actually reading)


You lose credibility when you say literally everyone on you is scum
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eaedwards6400
12/18/18 2:40:22 PM
#294:


Scare, the only claim screw up I remember from last game is when geno claimed is literally scum and Corrik asking for more villains on the safelist.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:40:39 PM
#295:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Terra can be all three of those things as town though.

Jokes aside, I can see why he'd interpret your actions the route he did from a town perspective, which is why I didnt have a problem with it. Your counterpoints to his first two points is - "Yes, I did do exactly what you said, but it was for town reasons". Okay, good defense. But how does that hurt Terra?

Gentlemen, this right here is scum.

I wasn't breaking down Terra's awful logic to call him scum (though I think it's very possible). I was breaking it down because Ben claimed it was good reasoning and it was the only thing he actually cited against me.

And he's admitting the logic is bad. But still wants to cling to it.

You were though. I asked you "Who do you think is scum on your lynch?" You said Terra had the worst reasoning for voting you. I said I'd go back and look at his post. I didnt find it scummy. I assumed you did, since you brought up Terra when I asked who on you was scum. \

Go to bed
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Terra-enforcer
12/18/18 2:41:11 PM
#296:


benjamin3740 posted...
Reg and Eaed I'm thinking might not be scum aligned because of how they were both the sole players pushing HB for a period there. Unless they stumbled into it on accident

Agreed. Voting patterns is an easy way to link players, so outside of highly contested lynch picks you won't often see scummates aligned. That's also in part why I made a similar connection between Reg and Eaed before, but I clearly lean one over the other if one of them is indeed scum.
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Corrik
12/18/18 2:41:41 PM
#297:


Okay I have good news and bad news.
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ScareChan
12/18/18 2:41:49 PM
#298:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Scare, the only claim screw up I remember from last game is when geno claimed is literally scum and Corrik asking for more villains on the safelist.


That's uh

Yikes

Considering I mentioned issue with wrestler well after that

But I guess I cant prove you followed your own game
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Reg
12/18/18 2:42:40 PM
#299:


ScareChan posted...
Reg posted...
(Spoilers, I ask you to do that because I think it's pretty clear that scum's pushing my lynch from various angles, and I'd like to make that fact clear to the game. And since you won't be able to support Terra's piss poor excuse for reasoning there, it'll just make it more clear to anybody actually reading)


You lose credibility when you say literally everyone on you is scum

I'm not saying everybody - I'm calling out Ben and Terra's votes in particular as awful, and Ash's as seeming lazy/bandwagon-y. I'm saying scum is definitely backing this, lynch though, and not just in the form of votes.

Terra-enforcer posted...
Don't twist my words into making it what you want to hear. Blatantly twisting people's words to grasp for an argument only makes you look worse in my eyes. It's one thing to disagree with my logic and counter it, but you're clearly not even interpreting what I said as telegraphed.

You literally said my actions w.r.t eaed make no sense for me as scum.
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benjamin3740
12/18/18 2:43:52 PM
#300:


Reg posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
So unless you think I'm scum pulling it out of thin air, it's not bullshit.

It just so happens that I believe that exact idea thanks to this conversation! The original post was nonsense and unfounded, and it's literally all you've cited as reason to vote me besides Terra's even worse reasoning.

I never cited that as a reason to vote you
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