Board 8 > Persona 5 Mafia Topic 3 - The Museum of Vanity

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Player List (20)
1. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
3. Corrik
4. Dark Young Link
5. eaedwards6400
6. garetha200
7. HanOfTheNekos
8. Hbthebattle
9. htaeD
10. IfGodCouldDie
11. Johnbobb
12. masterplum
13. MZero11
14. Neablis
15. red13n
16. Reg
17. ScareChan
18. Shaduln
19. Sheep007
20. Terra-enforcer

Votals, as of Topic 2
Reg [6] - (IGCD), Han, plum, Terra, Ashe, ben, Hb
Hb [2] - (Scare), (Reg), eaed, Johnbobb
IGCD [2] - red, (Reg), (ben), DYL
Neablis [2] - Reg, Scare
eaed [1] - (Han), Neablis, (IGCD), (ben), (Scare), (Hb)
Johnbobb [1] - MZero
Sheep [1] - Corrik
Ben [0] - (Reg)
Corrik [0] - (plum), (Scare)
Death [0] - (plum)
MZero [0] - (Scare), (Reg)
Scare [0] - (Corrik), (eaed)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch. Day ends at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, December 18th, approximately one and a half hours from now.
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John. Give me a straight answer as to why you voted me.
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Neablis posted...

I think it is a fair assessment if I am to be honest about my play right now.

Personally I would be annoyed with someone playing with me though.

In any case, besides this any direct questions that would be content creating instead of beating around the Bush with somewhateading questions

So

Gonna do something about it and actually play the game and give us crap to work with, or slink back into the darkness and hope I go away?

Johnbobb posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Reg/MZrro/Sheep/Scare scumteam?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Book of Confirmed Scum
Eaed

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Anyways we aren't lynching an inactive. I suggest you all lynch Sheep now. Thank you.
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Shaduln posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

After HB's last game, it seems weird to me that Scare, who was his Scummate, is calling him Scum here. And it seems odd that Scare is using his position as vocal player to say that Reg will not be lynched.

I really dont like this play from Scare.

So is the desire to lynch Reg over eaed based on Scare's play instead of eaed/Reg's play?

Han could you still answer this please.
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Johnbobb posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Reg/MZrro/Sheep/Scare scumteam?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Book of Confirmed Scum
Eaed

Thanks, John. I was kinda wondering if anyone else was going to bring up the fact that Han said he would probably go back to Ed and that he seems to have completely forgotten about him now.
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Corrik posted...

Anyways we aren't lynching an inactive. I suggest you all lynch Sheep now. Thank you.

Not when you're not even willing to fake a daycop scan for us
<.<
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Hbthebattle posted...

John. Give me a straight answer as to why you voted me.

well I said

Johnbobb posted...

Ben and HB jumping from popular lynch to popular lynch. There's a lot of following going on and I don't like it at all

and then you immediately replied saying you were going to jump to whatever is the easiest lynch. And you said it immediately after

it's scummy as hell
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Reg posted...

Neablis posted...

I think it is a fair assessment if I am to be honest about my play right now.

Personally I would be annoyed with someone playing with me though.

In any case, besides this any direct questions that would be content creating instead of beating around the Bush with somewhateading questions

So

Gonna do something about it and actually play the game and give us crap to work with, or slink back into the darkness and hope I go away?

Uh it's an hour and a half before eod so I might disappear for 30 for a shower soon but otherwise here to eod.

This discussion isnt actually going many places? For example you were pretty sure that the way Ben went about the lynch was sc um and a lot of other garbage votes however your vote and your preferred train is a borderline inactive?

Driving, give me a few.

Sheep probably Scum.
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Sheep007 posted...

Johnbobb posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Reg/MZrro/Sheep/Scare scumteam?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Book of Confirmed Scum
Eaed

Thanks, John. I was kinda wondering if anyone else was going to bring up the fact that Han said he would probably go back to Ed and that he seems to have completely forgotten about him now.

A few people at least were going on and on about reg ed scumteam and suddenly they are trying to make it one or the other.

The whole setup here smells.

htaeD posted...

Corrik posted...

Anyways we aren't lynching an inactive. I suggest you all lynch Sheep now. Thank you.

Not when you're not even willing to fake a daycop scan for us
<.<

After how many years of mafia experience, I think we can trust my read day 1 which if you had the day I was at a wedding and called out red and FD in their first posts despite reading like half the game, you would have won that game.

I am tired of you all ignoring me and losing
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Driving, give me a few.

Sheep probably Scum.

I really wanna hear this one
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oh can we refer to him as just ed

that makes this so much easier
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Johnbobb posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

John. Give me a straight answer as to why you voted me.

well I said

Johnbobb posted...

Ben and HB jumping from popular lynch to popular lynch. There's a lot of following going on and I don't like it at all

and then you immediately replied saying you were going to jump to whatever is the easiest lynch. And you said it immediately after

it's scummy as hell

The easiest lynch of the two people I am reasonably sure are scum? Doing that is weird? Honesty is scummy?

This logic is stupid.
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htaeD posted...

Corrik posted...

Anyways we aren't lynching an inactive. I suggest you all lynch Sheep now. Thank you.

Not when you're not even willing to fake a daycop scan for us
<.<

He was actually day cop last time. We knew and murdered him.

Neablis posted...

Uh it's an hour and a half before eod so I might disappear for 30 for a shower soon but otherwise here to eod.

This discussion isnt actually going many places? For example you were pretty sure that the way Ben went about the lynch was sc um and a lot of other garbage votes however your vote and your preferred train is a borderline inactive?

Your refusal to provide literally anything of value is being noted, don't worry. I will revisit Ben/Hb later. For now, I want you, because Scare reminded me you exist and you're continually falling into scum patterns.

I also want the rest of the game to notice this. Because what you're doing right now isn't town at all

Hbthebattle posted...

I mean nobody even asked Neab any questions

Exactly. If this is an effort to scum hunt, voting then twiddling their thumbs is a pretty poor execution of it.

Sheep007 posted...

But Neab is here. Jedi wasn't, I think. There's a massive difference

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

It's getting to a case of too little too late if there isn't actually a decent argument to be made against Neab, but obviously that doesn't mean you can't go back at it at a more opportune time later.
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Reg posted...

Neablis posted...

Uh it's an hour and a half before eod so I might disappear for 30 for a shower soon but otherwise here to eod.

This discussion isnt actually going many places? For example you were pretty sure that the way Ben went about the lynch was sc um and a lot of other garbage votes however your vote and your preferred train is a borderline inactive?

Your refusal to provide literally anything of value is being noted, don't worry. I will revisit Ben/Hb later. For now, I want you, because Scare reminded me you exist and you're continually falling into scum patterns.

I also want the rest of the game to notice this. Because what you're doing right now isn't town at all

I'm replying to you I thought we would discuss reads or actual things happening instead of you trying to convince me I am scum.

This is nothing like jedi

This is lynching someone who has been posting uncharacteristically to their usual style. Mind you they have always been town on b8 to this time

Him behaving differently is outside his town persona. His posts are quick and single minded. Its unlike him. He is a deeper thinker than this hiding behind excuses
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Corrik you dont get to play that game without giving us more concrete info...

Unless I missed said info, in which case the fool is I.
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Hbthebattle posted...

The easiest lynch of the two people I am reasonably sure are scum? Doing that is weird? Honesty is scummy?

This logic is stupid.

neither of them were your idea

both of them involved you waiting until one lynch was already popular, then saying "oh yeah I agree" and jumping on
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Corrik posted...

Anyways we aren't lynching an inactive. I suggest you all lynch Sheep now. Thank you.

You have no clout. You want to run end of day be here for day. So get in line and vote neab
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Terra-enforcer posted...

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

I feel like Reg has committed to it, though. He's been asking questions and looking for answers, and he's currently the top lynch by some margin. There's better targets out there if he's scum looking for an alternative lynch.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing.

Holy shit could you possibly be lying through your teeth any harder?

I'm here. I'm talking to the guy and trying to get him to provide things the game can use to read him. It's like pulling fucking teeth (Which is itself useful information), but I'm at least fucking trying. Unlike you, who's sitting around, doing jack shit besides taking pot shots at me.

Neablis posted...

I'm replying to you I thought we would discuss reads or actual things happening instead of you trying to convince me I am scum.

I'm literally - literally - begging you to provide any sort of reads and content to work with to read you if you're capable of reading between the lines on my posts. You're either scum refusing to or a player (of either alignment) incapable of picking up on that nuance.

Neab is a better vote than HB or Reg imo but I'm not particularly feeling a lynch on him and the fact I've already said I lean town on him would make a pressure vote redundant.
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Johnbobb posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

The easiest lynch of the two people I am reasonably sure are scum? Doing that is weird? Honesty is scummy?

This logic is stupid.

neither of them were your idea

both of them involved you waiting until one lynch was already popular, then saying "oh yeah I agree" and jumping on

Oh come on. I was talking about Reg being scum long before I voted him, right after I saw the way he jumped on Scare's train. And I was talking with Han about being willing to lynch either, too! How is this bandwagoning?
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Sheep007 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

I feel like Reg has committed to it, though. He's been asking questions and looking for answers, and he's currently the top lynch by some margin. There's better targets out there if he's scum looking for an alternative lynch.

This isnt right though sheep,

What scum hunting questions is actually being discussed. Hes asking leading questions that do not make people scum?

What question has he asked me points to what you are saying?

Like seriously, Neab aside for a second, has anybody else noticed that Terra has done literally nothing recently but take snide shots at me for trying to get Neab to talk, and trying to discredit my attempts to get a read on the guy?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

You will be able to tell a lot about the scum team based on who is killed tonight.

If I am not killed, some of or a combination of IGCD, Regaro, and Plum are scum.

They are salty players against me who won't acknowledge me as a player and have something to prove against me.

Uhhh, what? I love you as a player.

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Sheep007 posted...

Neab is a better vote than HB or Reg imo but I'm not particularly feeling a lynch on him and the fact I've already said I lean town on him would make a pressure vote redundant.

....so how is it a better vote in any way?
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Neablis posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

I feel like Reg has committed to it, though. He's been asking questions and looking for answers, and he's currently the top lynch by some margin. There's better targets out there if he's scum looking for an alternative lynch.

This isnt right though sheep,

What scum hunting questions is actually being discussed. Hes asking leading questions that do not make people scum?

What question has he asked me points to what you are saying?

Reads and content.

Provide them or so help me, I will end you.

Has Reg even asked Neab a single funcking meaningful question?

Reg posted...

Gonna do something about it and actually play the game and give us crap to work with, or slink back into the darkness and hope I go away?

A question like this does not qualify in my book.
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Reg posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Also, Reg, you still haven't claimed.

Don't want to. Especially not for a scum-driven train =)

Kill Reg. This is so obviously fake
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htaeD posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Neab is a better vote than HB or Reg imo but I'm not particularly feeling a lynch on him and the fact I've already said I lean town on him would make a pressure vote redundant.

....so how is it a better vote in any way?

Because I think Neab is more likely to be scum than HB or Reg.
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Sheep, who exactly other than ed and plum do you NOT read town on at this rate?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Has Reg even asked Neab a single funcking meaningful question?

Reg posted...

Gonna do something about it and actually play the game and give us crap to work with, or slink back into the darkness and hope I go away?

A question like this does not qualify in my book.

Yes because asking a guy who has provided literally zero unique reads or information of his own (His vote was explicitly sheeping Han, recall) is not meaningful

Probably scum (especially considering everything else you've shown today), but if not super fucking incompetent.

The question thing is actually fair, I'll admit I was looking less into what he was saying than the fact he was trying to get people to vote Neab and actually tried to initiate discussion, which is still always positive (although perhaps less than I thought).
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Back from the store, only to realize the person I wanted to speak up more.... didn't really say much more.

Neablis posted...

The eased wagon sort of fail apart here.

In any case I will post complete thoughts soon.

Sheep is not technically outside what I've witnessed as town however he is well under the normal amount of activity and impact I expect.

It is a bit worrying though

Neab, could we have those thoughts please? I know you think eaed is scum, but how do you think about other people?
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Dark Young Link posted...

only to realize the person I wanted to speak up more.... didn't really say much more.

Neablis

Join the club

I've been trying since the end of last topic

He's just fucking refusing

Reg posted...

Probably scum (especially considering everything else you've shown today), but if not super fucking incompetent.

Hb is pretty new. The competency thing is a bit expected.

DYL, you didn't say much yourself. What are your reads on this whole situation?
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As soon as I mention Sheep possibly being Scum, he goes on attack mode instantly.

Scare has been acting in a way I really don't like. That set me to think of him working on things as if he is Scum playing set-up... ends up with Sheep being on that list.

Was going to say I didn't like JB, especially with how quick he was with that quote of me. But Sheep got aggressive real quick as soon as I mentioned him.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Reg posted...

Probably scum (especially considering everything else you've shown today), but if not super fucking incompetent.

Hb is pretty new. The competency thing is a bit expected.

Red, help me since I'm super frustrated with this.

Am I being too obtuse and roundabout with Neab? Or is he actually just refusing me?

Hbthebattle posted...

Sheep, who exactly other than ed and plum do you NOT read town on at this rate?

Ashe, Terra, Han, Corrik, Shad, Ben, MZero, Gareth, Death and DYL.
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...Sheep, other than Death and Ed, are all your scum reads just inactives?
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Reg posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Reg posted...

Probably scum (especially considering everything else you've shown today), but if not super fucking incompetent.

Hb is pretty new. The competency thing is a bit expected.

Red, help me since I'm super frustrated with this.

Am I being too obtuse and roundabout with Neab? Or is he actually just refusing me?

Little of both. Neab is not the most confident guy, keep in mind. I have him as bad town right now.

Reg posted...

Neablis posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

But what Reg doing right now isn't even scum hunting. It's voting and dashing which amounts to nothing. If you want a vote someone you commit to it. Especially if it's such a low profile player with so little info to gather from. When deadline is this close time is of the essence, and weak pressure isn't going to take you very far, especially when the player can easily just hide behind one of the head lynches.

I feel like Reg has committed to it, though. He's been asking questions and looking for answers, and he's currently the top lynch by some margin. There's better targets out there if he's scum looking for an alternative lynch.

This isnt right though sheep,

What scum hunting questions is actually being discussed. Hes asking leading questions that do not make people scum?

What question has he asked me points to what you are saying?

Reads and content.

Provide them or so help me, I will end you.

I almost feel like playing chicken here just to spite you, however if you would allow the exchange I am attempting to have with sheep continue...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

As soon as I mention Sheep possibly being Scum, he goes on attack mode instantly.

Scare has been acting in a way I really don't like. That set me to think of him working on things as if he is Scum playing set-up... ends up with Sheep being on that list.

Was going to say I didn't like JB, especially with how quick he was with that quote of me. But Sheep got aggressive real quick as soon as I mentioned him.

Define go on the attack and actually back it up with something, please.
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