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VictimComplex
12/20/18 9:42:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Spooking posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Spooking posted...
So the people saying the border wall won't work. Are you suggesting guard towers, or perhaps sentries?

Suggest building nothing. Monitor the border via satellite and put checkpoints on the roads. That's all.

Good idea.

What about the 10-15 million illegals already here?

Lenny Shrug and move on with the rest of our lives since most of those 10-15 million have been here for years

The thought of scary brown people keeps him up all night
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Tyranthraxus
12/20/18 9:43:16 PM
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prince_leo posted...
Spooking posted...
So the people saying the border wall won't work. Are you suggesting guard towers, or perhaps sentries?

if we're worried about illegal immigration, we shouldn't be looking at mexico. forget the land issue or the sheer scale involved, most illegal immigrants are those who are overstaying their visas. a wall, guard towers, or sentries wouldn't help in preventing where illegal immigration is thriving

I got into an argument with a coworker the other day and found that most overstayed visas are Canadian visas.

So build a northern wall too
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Ray_Dorset
12/20/18 9:43:48 PM
#53:


Tyranthraxus posted...
prince_leo posted...
Spooking posted...
So the people saying the border wall won't work. Are you suggesting guard towers, or perhaps sentries?

if we're worried about illegal immigration, we shouldn't be looking at mexico. forget the land issue or the sheer scale involved, most illegal immigrants are those who are overstaying their visas. a wall, guard towers, or sentries wouldn't help in preventing where illegal immigration is thriving

I got into an argument with a coworker the other day and found that most overstayed visas are Canadian visas.

So build a northern wall too


Maybe it'll keep out the cold air too
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PiOverlord
12/20/18 9:45:05 PM
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Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China? Why does it have to be some ugly looking, boring wall, if even?

Imagine if we built cities along this wall, and had all sorts of attractions. The wall would pay for itself. Instead, we're going to have to spend a lot of money cleaning up the art that people will leave on it. Where's my circus at?!?
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VictimComplex
12/20/18 9:45:45 PM
#55:


PiOverlord posted...
Instead, we're going to have to spend a lot of money cleaning up the art that people will leave on it.

Good news! There's not even gonna be a wall
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Lebronwon
12/20/18 9:46:00 PM
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How did it even pass in the House I thought there were more Democrats than Republicans now. So Dems want this in the House?
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prince_leo
12/20/18 9:47:13 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
How did it even pass in the House I thought there were more Democrats than Republicans now. So Dems want this in the House?

that does not happen until Jan 3rd
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VictimComplex
12/20/18 9:47:14 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
How did it even pass in the House I thought there were more Democrats than Republicans now. So Dems want this in the House?

New term hasn't started yet. This is the last gasp of the lame duck House sucking off Trump
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hockeybub89
12/20/18 9:53:00 PM
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The Mexican House passed this, right? Since Mexico is paying for it?

We could spending money on healthcare and renewable energy.
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BarneyBosco
12/20/18 10:06:00 PM
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monkmith posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
The good news is we have a president who keeps his word.

The bad news is it's Donald Trump.

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mexico is paying for it?

NAFTA 2.0 is a start.
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VictimComplex
12/20/18 10:07:55 PM
#63:


BarneyBosco posted...
monkmith posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
The good news is we have a president who keeps his word.

The bad news is it's Donald Trump.

<_<

mexico is paying for it?

NAFTA 2.0 is a start.

NAFTA 2.0 is basically NAFTA but with Trump's signature. Barely anything changed, just the bare minimum to enable him to attach his name
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Terra-enforcer
12/20/18 10:14:58 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
i mean isnt europe having issues with their borders and an influx of foreigners? im all for a secure border but a wall seems excessive.

we need to set up some kind of neutral zone at the border with both us and mexican governments contributing to some kind of relief fund, temp housing for families.

Yeah immigration isn't the issue, the stupidly expensive wall is the problem. It would make more sense to do something like use a fraction of the funds to supply jobs in reinforcing border security and hiring more people to safeguard it. Not spend a shitton on a damn wall.

The wall is the dumbest freaking meme, especially when people's healthcare is at stake here.
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CADE FOSTER
12/20/18 10:17:39 PM
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Why cant we just update our archaic immigration laws you know cost less than a wall or fence as its probably gonna be again
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BarneyBosco
12/20/18 10:33:39 PM
#67:


VictimComplex posted...
BarneyBosco posted...
monkmith posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
The good news is we have a president who keeps his word.

The bad news is it's Donald Trump.

<_<

mexico is paying for it?

NAFTA 2.0 is a start.

NAFTA 2.0 is basically NAFTA but with Trump's signature. Barely anything changed, just the bare minimum to enable him to attach his name

I can tell you dislike Trump, however I wouldn't call it the bare minimum. The guy is a business man and this should make every American happy. This is only 1 aspect of the deal.

https://www.mercatus.org/publications/higher-de-minimis-thresholds-canada-mexico-us-small-business
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Solar_Crimson
12/20/18 10:43:57 PM
#68:


Kineth posted...
I don't get how we can't put that money into our fucking roads, plumbing, electrical and internet infrastructure. Or into our underfunded programs like medicare, education and so forth.

Geez. People act like we can't pay for government health care, but suddenly we've got the money for a fucking wall? I hate our government, specifically Congress.

No kidding. Same with the military budget.
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Bio1590
12/20/18 10:48:41 PM
#69:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
VictimComplex posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
HAlL SATAN!

HAIL THE WALL!!

HAIL TRUMP!!!

What is the purpose of this?

He thinks it's funny for some unfathomable reason

Because he can't say Heil
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BarneyBosco
12/20/18 10:50:07 PM
#70:


Bio1590 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
VictimComplex posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
HAlL SATAN!

HAIL THE WALL!!

HAIL TRUMP!!!

What is the purpose of this?

He thinks it's funny for some unfathomable reason

Because he can't say Heil

XD
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008Zulu
12/20/18 10:51:15 PM
#71:


PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.
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Bio1590
12/20/18 10:53:32 PM
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There probably aren't even 60 Senators left in DC at this point. Something like half the GOP is gone.
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monkmith
12/20/18 10:56:01 PM
#73:


BarneyBosco posted...
VictimComplex posted...
BarneyBosco posted...
monkmith posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
The good news is we have a president who keeps his word.

The bad news is it's Donald Trump.

<_<

mexico is paying for it?

NAFTA 2.0 is a start.

NAFTA 2.0 is basically NAFTA but with Trump's signature. Barely anything changed, just the bare minimum to enable him to attach his name

I can tell you dislike Trump, however I wouldn't call it the bare minimum. The guy is a business man and this should make every American happy. This is only 1 aspect of the deal.

https://www.mercatus.org/publications/higher-de-minimis-thresholds-canada-mexico-us-small-business

everything i've read suggests that its essentially NAFTA with some tweaks that doesn't reallly add or loose anything compared to the previous deal. essentially just trump again showing that he loves to put his name on things.

irregardless, how exactly is that mexico paying for a wall? none of the money involved by usmca goes to the treasury, its private money.
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Bio1590
12/20/18 10:56:16 PM
#74:


008Zulu posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.

It also only has value because it's old.
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Jiek_Fafn
12/20/18 10:59:37 PM
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What if instead of a wall, we just push Mexico lower? Then America becomes one giant wall.
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Houston
12/20/18 11:05:38 PM
#76:


Cryin' Chuck Schumer is behind the eight ball now.

We'll see what happens.
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Houston
12/20/18 11:07:19 PM
#77:


Pelosi & Co said Trump didn't have the votes in House.

Uh oh.. looks like he did.
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VictimComplex
12/20/18 11:15:27 PM
#78:


Houston posted...
Cryin' Chuck Schumer is behind the eight ball now.

We'll see what happens.

Pretty sure a number of Senators have gone home. Need 60 votes to be filibuster proof. It's not happening. They're sending it back to the House to take out the vanity project and Trump will have a hissy fit but sign it
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Trigg3rH4ppy
12/20/18 11:26:08 PM
#79:


monkmith posted...
wouldn't we have to disenfranchise a ton of our citizens and literally fight a war with mexico over water rights to build an actual wall?

Absolutely. Trump intends to steal property from American citizens who are unfortunate enough to be in the line of the wall. Anyone that supports the wall supports making thousands of innocent red blooded Americans homeless. Even white people!
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HagenEx
12/21/18 1:00:23 AM
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The wall will never see the light of day. They need 60 billion dollars to make it happen.
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BruceWayneJr
12/21/18 1:02:08 AM
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More bread and fucking circuses.
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PiOverlord
12/21/18 7:50:41 AM
#82:


Bio1590 posted...
008Zulu posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.

It also only has value because it's old.

We need to think bigger then.
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Kineth
12/21/18 7:54:52 AM
#83:


PiOverlord posted...
Bio1590 posted...
008Zulu posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.

It also only has value because it's old.

We need to think bigger then.


Punish the businesses that employ illegal immigrants instead of punishing the immigrants. If the issue is that they're fucking over the American worker, put the energy in the right spots and punish those who knowingly put illegal immigrants in and don't pay them adequate wages. Literal tax shenanigans with the undocumented pay.

A wall is a huge waste of money.
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PiOverlord
12/21/18 7:56:37 AM
#84:


Kineth posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Bio1590 posted...
008Zulu posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.

It also only has value because it's old.

We need to think bigger then.


Punish the businesses that employ illegal immigrants instead of punishing the immigrants. If the issue is that they're fucking over the American worker, put the energy in the right spots and punish those who knowingly put illegal immigrants in and don't pay them adequate wages. Literal tax shenanigans with the undocumented pay.

A wall is a huge waste of money.

What if we built a rollercoaster ride that doubled as a wall?!?
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Kineth
12/21/18 8:13:40 AM
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PiOverlord posted...
Kineth posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Bio1590 posted...
008Zulu posted...
PiOverlord posted...
Why can't we have a great looking wall that is fun and can actually be used as a tourist attraction like China?

The Great Wall isn't that great. There are whole sections you're not allowed to walk on, people chip stone as souvenirs, and people carve their names in to it. It's more an eyesore at this point. So in that regard, it will be the same as Trump's Wall.

It also only has value because it's old.

We need to think bigger then.


Punish the businesses that employ illegal immigrants instead of punishing the immigrants. If the issue is that they're fucking over the American worker, put the energy in the right spots and punish those who knowingly put illegal immigrants in and don't pay them adequate wages. Literal tax shenanigans with the undocumented pay.

A wall is a huge waste of money.

What if we built a rollercoaster ride that doubled as a wall?!?


That'd somehow be less idiotic than what we're doing now.
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butthole666
12/21/18 8:16:58 AM
#86:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Remember, though...If you have Cancer, Diabetes, almost any other disease....Sorry but it just too expensive to take care of you as an American Citizen...THIS Though...THIS needs nearly 6 billion going towards it.


yeah dude, because when we are done spending all this money on people who aren't supposed to even be here, then maybe we'll be able to afford to implement your bernie fantasies of "FREE FREE FREE"....but in our current state of lawlessness its just not viable. This is the prequel to getting costs under control.

Man you are stupid as shit
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Kineth
12/21/18 8:19:30 AM
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butthole666 posted...

+1
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Darkman124
12/21/18 8:24:57 AM
#88:


what surprises me is that ryan hasn't realized this is his moment to make himself a real 2020 primary candidate

the house could pass a funding bill without the wall and then override trump's veto alongside the senate

senate bill had 95 votes for cloture so dems could easily raise the votes in favor of the funding bill to 66
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12/21/18 12:20:27 PM
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Shadow Don
12/21/18 12:31:18 PM
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Houston posted...
Pelosi & Co said Trump didn't have the votes in House.

Uh oh.. looks like he did.


Literally the only reason it passed the House is because they knew this was DOA. It's nothing more than optics from the lame duck GOP House.
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Kolibri X
12/21/18 12:46:19 PM
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Ended the previous administrations support of terrorists in Syria, China bending to his will and soon the glorious WALL. Thank you god for sending us this man. He is a god damn superhero.
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