Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed

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So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben
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pezloco posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

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Tom is speaking to my soul again.

TOM

If you are town, do not fall for these love games

Fall for my S&M games

Hbthebattle posted...

Alright so, Ben, I have arranged a deal. A game of chicken, if you will.

Consider me interested!
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Smart move Hbthebattle. I agree with this play.
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Camarija posted...

Fall for my S&M games

but I already fell for Lopen's~
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Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Which is how you know I'm not scum since I'm offering such a win/win deal in the first place >__>
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Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Except if he flips town villager, we get nothing. We're not lynching Ben. That's the worst move we make today.
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Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Your logic feels bad

Pez is not a magical other power role

Pez is just mafia

We flip Pez Mafia, then force Mafia to try to kill Ben at some point, after taking care of the protection claims

Then we win

That is a good call IF he's not insane or something
which
he PROBABLY isn't
but
y'know
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I think just killing you now resolves it better. You should claim the third scam-- ha oh I mean scan, before you're lynched, just to be safe.
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If he's villager, he probably should just admit it now and save us all the trouble.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

That is a good call IF he's not insane or something
which
he PROBABLY isn't
but
y'know

If he's insane, wouldn't we find out when he flips?
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Tom Bombadil posted...

That is a good call IF he's not insane or something
which
he PROBABLY isn't
but
y'know

I mean insane is possible. But I think it's much more likely he's just making the calculated risk I've detailed.
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Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

This is so bad, but HB is scum. Need to see chris's shooting list again and see if I was correct all 5 were town.

My can is fucking redeemed. Said pez and HB were scum.
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Game*
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Hbthebattle posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

That is a good call IF he's not insane or something
which
he PROBABLY isn't
but
y'know

If he's insane, wouldn't we find out when he flips?

Typically no. At least not in AIMafia
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Camarija posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Your logic feels bad

Pez is not a magical other power role

Pez is just mafia

We flip Pez Mafia, then force Mafia to try to kill Ben at some point, after taking care of the protection claims

Then we win

and if Pez flips Town, Scum has pulled off a successful trade, which is in their flavor.
If Ben is town, we trade 1 mislynch for three scum lynches, which is a deal heavily favoring us with my plan.
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Does Sam I Am sound like a sane cop to you? He hates everything.

But, it's too on the nose, as well. It's not a real insane cop role because it'd be too obvious. But it's what he'll use when his guilty scan flips as town.
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Corrik, explain to me exactly why my plan is bad.
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Corrik7 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

This is so bad, but HB is scum. Need to see chris's shooting list again and see if I was correct all 5 were town.

My can is fucking redeemed. Said pez and HB were scum.

Corrik I think you could be spot on about the excitement thing. He was super excited to "find scum" at the start of the day. Super mad after I revealed.
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Corrik7 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

This is so bad, but HB is scum. Need to see chris's shooting list again and see if I was correct all 5 were town.

My can is fucking redeemed. Said pez and HB were scum.

Sir Corrik

I wanted to be the first to congratulate you on redeeming your game

In honor of this momentous occasion, I present you with the Medal of REDEEEEEEEM!

Insane Cop is a stupid fucking role and I sincerely doubt Han would put it in a game he's been working on for a decade.
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He wouldn't. But I'm explaining Ben's gambit. The flavor is perfect, isn't it?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Camarija posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

So by Ben's admission:
benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

This means that we don't really need Ben's scanning power anymore.

Therefore, the test here is simple. Lynch Ben. If he flips town, we've got three confirmed scum for the next three days, basically guaranteeing us the win. If he flips scum, he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Your logic feels bad

Pez is not a magical other power role

Pez is just mafia

We flip Pez Mafia, then force Mafia to try to kill Ben at some point, after taking care of the protection claims

Then we win

and if Pez flips Town, Scum has pulled off a successful trade, which is in their flavor.
If Ben is town, we trade 1 mislynch for three scum lynches, which is a deal heavily favoring us with my plan.

Dude, in what world were we ever lynching Ben today?

Hbthebattle posted...

If he's insane, wouldn't we find out when he flips?

not in my experience
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)

But not Tom. Or Sultan.

Bens, Scare, Corrik, Lea, Puns.

One of you shall DIE today

All town. Watch.

Ben, zero reason to not reveal your third scan.

And anyone saying to test the cop claim by lynching him is insane.

5tar what was ur result.
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Wow, Ben pushing me, someone he has said is confirmed Town in the past and he does not have a scan on.
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I've never played a gamefaqs game with an actual insane cop. Have not even considered that for a second.

Also, my reads are statistically good. So, it's not likely the people I scanned are all town.
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Why is it insane, Corrik? By Ben's admission he's caught every catchable scum.
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Corrik7 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)

But not Tom. Or Sultan.

Bens, Scare, Corrik, Lea, Puns.

One of you shall DIE today

All town. Watch.

Ben, zero reason to not reveal your third scan.

And anyone saying to test the cop claim by lynching him is insane.

5tar what was ur result.

5tar scanned HB as HP
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Hbthebattle posted...

Wow, Ben pushing me, someone he has said is confirmed Town in the past and he does not have a scan on.

Yes. In fact there's even a "goog guy" flavor scan on you. So you must be playing really scummy to be grabbing my attention so hard.
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Now the question that's really important is there any scum role that like, can change what a lynch flips as. Because that would make his gambit that much more insidious. He could in theory get two mislynches if that existed. (Does it exist?)
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Lopen posted...

But, it's too on the nose, as well. It's not a real insane cop role because it'd be too obvious

I am not sure there is such a thing! The only insane cop I can think of in board maf offhand was Excel in my Anime Mafia waayy back in the day. The "insane" part was more obvious from flavor than "cop" and still nobody ever questioned it <_< You're probably right, I just feel like this is not a game to leave assumptions unexamined.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)

But not Tom. Or Sultan.

Bens, Scare, Corrik, Lea, Puns.

One of you shall DIE today

All town. Watch.

Ben, zero reason to not reveal your third scan.

And anyone saying to test the cop claim by lynching him is insane.

5tar what was ur result.

5tar scanned HB as HP

Thanks.

Ben who was ur three scans on the nights. I am going to go over every day and see if it checks out. Now, please. No time to go back and look for something to line up.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Why is it insane, Corrik? By Ben's admission he's caught every catchable scum.

I dont know that. Do you?
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Name one problem with my plan.
If Ben flips town, we catch three confirmed scum and the game is basically over.
If Ben flips scum, we caught a scum.
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benjamin3740 posted...

I've never played a gamefaqs game with an actual insane cop. Have not even considered that for a second.

Also, my reads are statistically good. So, it's not likely the people I scanned are all town.

This is what he was planning on saying tomorrow when he reveals he was lying tomorrow. He thinks he has me pegged as scum. He tried to get me lynched yesterday. Admitted he's not good at leading lynches. He fakes a scan to get me killed. And now people will listen to him even if he admits he lied. Like I said it was a good calculated risk.
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Lopen posted...

Does it exist?)

I think that'd fall under Manipulator? Which is generally hated IIRC. Or like a modified Janitor?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Name one problem with my plan.
If Ben flips town, we catch three confirmed scum and the game is basically over.
If Ben flips scum, we caught a scum.

If Ben's target flips scum, you kill 3 scum also. Durr.
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Pez are you seriously thinking that's a town play even having the gambit spelled out for you? Seriously?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Why is it insane, Corrik? By Ben's admission he's caught every catchable scum.

I dont know that. Do you?

benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik saving me is optional. I think I already exhausted all the guilty scum

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I think, if we look at this logically, the only FAIR way to decide who is telling the truth is to figure out who watches the best anime

So, Team Benjamin vs. Team Pez

ROUND 1!

FIGHT!

Corrik7 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Name one problem with my plan.
If Ben flips town, we catch three confirmed scum and the game is basically over.
If Ben flips scum, we caught a scum.

If Ben's target flips scum, you kill 3 scum also. Durr.

And if Ben's target flips town?
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Lopen posted...

Now the question that's really important is there any scum role that like, can change what a lynch flips as. Because that would make his gambit that much more insidious. He could in theory get two mislynches if that existed. (Does it exist?)

I'm aware of one that hides the role. I'm not aware of one that changes the reveal on death.
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Camarija posted...

I think, if we look at this logically, the only FAIR way to decide who is telling the truth is to figure out who watches the best anime

So, Team Benjamin vs. Team Pez

ROUND 1!

FIGHT!

I watch pretty bad anime so whenever I make up my mind you should probably lynch whoever's side I take
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Corrik7 posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)

But not Tom. Or Sultan.

Bens, Scare, Corrik, Lea, Puns.

One of you shall DIE today

All town. Watch.

Ben, zero reason to not reveal your third scan.

And anyone saying to test the cop claim by lynching him is insane.

5tar what was ur result.

5tar scanned HB as HP

Thanks.

Ben who was ur three scans on the nights. I am going to go over every day and see if it checks out. Now, please. No time to go back and look for something to line up.

Death night 1

Pez night 2

I scanned Tom anyway night 3 because I was lazy and didnt have anyone else on the "Not town" list I've been carrying since day 1. Wanted to just finish up the list. And I even had Tom as town the first two days but took him off day 3 after the Pez guilty scan... it was a bad choice probably.

TOM IS TOWN

He could be godfather but eh. And yeah I dont have 3 straight guilty scans. Hence why I wanted some reactions.
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Lopen posted...

Pez are you seriously thinking that's a town play even having the gambit spelled out for you? Seriously?

With two scum already dead, no death last night, a possibility that Lolo could make another save that would effectively negate the downside to Corrik's role. Yeah I don't think he's scum making this gambit. I think my explanation fits the best.
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lol
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I must say Ben, you seem to not be willing to put your own life on the line to prove your scans. I'd have thought you'd be more enthusiastic if Town about basically killing any questioning of your reads.
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Oh and technically the claim he'd use is not insane cop but paranoid cop, I believe

Whichever one scans everything as guilty.

Because it's Sam I Am I hate all players Sam I Am I do not like them Sam I Am
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