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AriaOfBolo posted...

hot take I hated this

on paper it's something I would've expected to like, but he just mowed through a bunch of people I cared about and the Drew payoff wasn't worth it for me

I think the problem for me is he wasn't put in serious jeopardy really at any point and it felt like Drew kinda fluke eliminated him.

I would have liked it more if there was a real build to him being thrown out, gradually stronger foes and then someone overpowers him outright.

Personally would put 1998 right by 1999 in terms of being bad because I felt the obviousness of Steve Austin winning was a huge distraction to both but I can see why 1999 is more reviled.

You'd think with like 30 tries you'd get a long one in there though

The pedantry is saying "mistake" was the important word when "WWE" was the important word. It is a bad decision for the company's lifespan and long-term profitability, but a good decision for the decision makers in the deal because they're getting that money. ANYWAY.

And yes I do think WCW would have figured something out with a different buyer. That's all theory but I do think the brand had a lot value then-- people had a longer memory than 2 years.

AriaOfBolo posted...

I'm kinda with Steiner, it's not a "mistake" if you come out ahead (by your own values)

I mean I agree it's not a mistake by the standards of the board of directors/Vince's objectives. They're gonna make a lot of money.

But I literally said "WWE" as in the company as a whole not "the higher ups at the WWE." The company as a whole will make less money and have less influence over time with this buy I think even if they're making bank now. Like we're arguing a point I was not interested in making.

Its kinda like how WWE bought WCW and then did nothing with it. WCW decision makers were happy with it but I believe WCW as a brand would have made a lot more money had the sale never taken place, even with debt issues and sliding ratings and all that considered.

This is enough pedantry to make me blush.

As in I see the company WWE having less lifespan long term under Saudi ownership. So for the Saudis I guess but also everyone in WWE that isn't going to be filthy rich from the deal

I feel like this will be a mistake for WWE in the end but they won't care they got that money.

Cap & Bucky vs Iron Man is absolutely the best scene and it's the weight behind that whole plot thread that really makes the movie great. Team Iron Man here.

Also I think Bucky being jokey quick is supported by his The First Avenger characterization so I didn't have a problem with it.

Like I would argue you can't make AoU's jokes funny without outright removing a lot of them, because the reason it's not funny is you're numbed to them. To me that isn't a dialogue issue as much as changing scene objectives entirely.

I would call "dialogue" a very reductive way to state the problem with Ultron's writing and there's more to pacing than not being bored. The jokes are out of place more than being poorly written in and of themselves, and I wouldn't call Age of Ultron boring either at a surface level, but it's constantly moving from thing to thing and doesn't dwell on anything long enough for you to care about what's going on (which fits the constantly quippy weightless dialogue)

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Man
Ant-Man
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
Thor: The Dark World
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Iron Man 3

Very good ranking so far. I wouldn't move anything here more than 1 or 2 slots.

I get what they were trying to do. Logically it makes some sense that some Tony should be in there but yeah they should probably only do it like once and then favor ruthless non-humor.

But yeah it's just not good. Bottom marvel movie for me personally-- only one that legit irritates me to watch. Like I don't care much for Iron Man 2 or 3 but they're watchable for me. I just would never bother beyond marathon settings cause there are several better movies out there even within the franchise, to say nothing of movies as a medium.

I've always biggest reason Age of Ultron's humor feels so flat is there isn't anyone in the movie taking anything seriously. Usually the villain is the one achieving that in Marvel movies but Ultron is trying to outjoke Iron Man and it sucks

You need a straight man SOMEWHERE.

The price action doesn't make sense because the stock market is currently a front for criminal activity more than an accurate representation of the economy. You just gotta buy a company you know can't be bankrupted and hold until all the dark pool and short exempts and swaps and crap come to a head.

Ouch Batman losing to Looney Tunes that's rough

changmas posted...

or even more likely; the other person just starts hurting them back and two people are on the brink of death in the first 20 hours

I am not seeing the downside to this format

I think if you reveal the votes the idea is unworkable because then scum gets votes and it's too hard to actually lynch any of them

But maybe scum is paranoid that if they're one of the wagons they split their votes. I don't know.

I guess the idea has a lot of unpacking to do but I could see it working in any case.

My strategy in such a game would be that we would basically cast votes before the day is over and lies would be caught by "ok people said they'd lynch this guy but this other guy got lynched why" and "this guy agreed to vote this guy too easily because he knew his vote wouldn't have to go that way"

I do think it would potentially be pointless but there is potential for fun, especially if roles are designed well (imagine a vote tracker who can get the info of who a player voted at night)

Some people are really sensitive on b8-- that's the only reason I can see you (or Ulti) being ignored at this point.

I quarrel with Han and we agree on almost nothing but to his credit he has never ignored me and continues to join mafia games I'm in and I have a lot of respect for him for that.

That sounds cool

I ASSUME mafia doesn't get to vote in this format because duh

I'm willing to play mafia in any case if it's still running. The games are fun and I think I've found a balance of activity that works to be enough to engage with the game but not so much that it consumes me.

It's all good. I definitely had fun the last game and would be up for playing more of them but it's a good performance to go out on.

It was also a little frustrating having so many town basically AFK either literally or mentally and that is a sign we probably need a break as much as anything.

MM still desperately fighting BBIG with dark pool 85% and short exempt spamming, with 5% of volume being short exempt most days lately.

I think it ends this week. Huge options chain and the Nasdaq deficiency clearly didn't happen as they would have delisted yesterday but instead dropped a PR about a partnership with google ads.

We'll see. Hope so. I have a nice little stack of options at $1 and $2 that expire this week. Not a ton of money but they were cheap enough that even with conservative upward movement I would make huge bank.

PR about earnings tomorrow today AH followed by ER thursday would be ideal. I feel like ER + merger may happen at the same time at this point and the play is provide an earnings report for the merged company not just BBIG. Not sure that actually works but yeah I do feel like that's roughly what the company does regardless of the exact timing. You need to audit all of BBIG and their CFO is the same as Zash's CFO so it's the natural time to do it.

Nicholson Joker existed before this board so if anyone was going to anti-vote portrayals for ruining the character they had the material they needed.

Doc Emmett Brown (Back to the Future)
Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes)
Hubert J. Farnsworth (Futurama)
Jesse Pinkman (Breaking Bad)
The Joker (Batman)
Marty McFly (Back to the Future)
Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters)
Wheatley (Portal 2)

Joker > Jesse >> Hobbes > Venkman > Doc > McFly >> Wheatley >> Farnsworth of the final 8

So I mean the final isn't terrible. Was really hoping Joker or Jesse would win though.

Ah shame. No great winners left now.

Crisis averted no bad winners left

Yeah. I think the 3 month eos period really softened the blow. I don't even mind that it's gone.

Timing was probably a big thing too. Like they did it right when the new challenging stuff started so I never even got into the groove of trying any of it. All things considered that's probably a good thing.

I think it happens October or November

It's about interaction with 2025 LEAPS and the feasibility of sustaining short positions for pressure more than the actual news. The question is only about whether we flush or go up without flush.

Looking more likely we're going for the fake out and flush. What a scam this stock market, lol.

I have been saying buy here yeah. I think we're close. It's whether the funds try to flush or don't. Do think they flip bull very soon either way.

Right. That's what I'm saying. They're the most likely target due to history.

But it's also clear that what is being tried isn't working.

That doesn't mean that whoever is trying to shake the tree acknowledges retail is learning, though.

I don't think most of the movement has been selling is the thing

If it's driven primarily by legitimate selling short interest and dark pool utilization shouldn't go up as much. I do agree that a hedge fund or institution capitulating would cause the market to recover but if you go in terms of what the target of the attack on the market is (based on available data and what stocks are going down more), retail seems more likely. I suppose retail could be the target and a hedge fund capitulating as collateral damage could be possible though.

So the question remains what is happening now

We had a LOT of doomsaying about Credit Suisse and Duesche Bank potentially defaulting and potentially collapsing the financial system this weekend. I'm not going to say that was outright FUD but it could have caused people to act in a certain way.

Did that cause enough retail into selling early yesterday that the market is now running OR is the market being pumped to try and trap people for the dump. It's impossible to know. I'm inclined to think it's the former? I think there was a lot more noise about it on certain financial circles of Twitter with higher density of the types of people that are "the enemy" and less everywhere else

I think now is the time to buy as long as you don't do it on margin. You could wait for a flash 2008 style dump but if it doesn't happen you're going to be kicking yourself because the market is probably well over half the way down from where it should be right now.

I'm not saying retail is outright driving the market as much as retail investment is on the uptick and inorganic price movement being used to shake out retail makes more sense than it being institutions and hedge funds fighting amongst themselves.

Like brokerages such as robinhood and webull sell their data. If they give intel that a bunch of retail has sold expecting a market crash no doubt in my mind the market starts running.

17-12 I assume

Sucks, but that's more along what I expected the original result to be and I was shocked Shredder was holding his own there.

At least I like Hobbes too.

Elektra was definitely not better than Daredevil and I blame it entirely on Jennifer Garner who I cannot take seriously in a tough role at all (and strangely has been cast in similar roles multiple times throughout her career in spite of this)

I'd totally be down for another Elektra movie with The Cleaning Lady playing her though.

Yeah don't feel pressured to run the game if you're going to be stressed about getting eaten by a hurricane

Stay safe. We can wait a few days for things to clear up.

I just really hope Farnsworth doesn't win the whole thing ugh

Ash
Venkman
Shredder
Walter

Some were immune and some had 80-90% reduction which may as well be immune. As a Setzer fan it sucked when they made breaks pointless. Then when they brought the reduction back to 70% stats got power crept enough that it still didn't matter that much unless you did the 8 second crush moves that hit for -70%.

Didn't mind chains. Awakenings were a bad idea though. I do agree that Arcane Overstrikes were when the formula peaked. Chain into Ultra + Overstrike was the best. You add more and more layers and the meter/turn management within a chain gets too obnoxious especially when you have to mix infuses and imperils and cap breaks and all the other junk into it.

Spyro

I didn't mind labyrinths. I guess because I enjoyed the challenge of making a fully auto team able to do it. Could have been better though. But I didn't like the mechanics on the later bosses. Too much enrage spam. Too many narrow windows to dump damage onto enemies. Just not very satisfying for me. But the natural consequence of how the game approached power creep.

But yeah I am just saying once Ultras passed the mechanics just got too complex to get any new players. Was a good strategy to keep old players though-- better than just power creeping.

I don't think enough people are selling to enter a true bear market. By and large prices are decreasing due to increased short interest across the board.

The thesis is rate hikes will cause retail to sell because they need to pay their creditors more. But if they aren't selling the play isn't sustainable for a super long term and market forces know this.

So I'm thinking one of two things happen

1. Enough retail sells expecting a crash hoping to buy back in. Crash doesn't happen, market moons.
2. Retail holds, crash is forced to try and flush people out. We recover hard after the crash because the crash is driven largely by unsustainable shorting.

I think the play is to have money in the game right now and protect yourself with a few way out of the money puts. Keep margin as low as you can.

Imo no but I'm just seconding stuff I like.

I feel like they're going to go for it and push the crash. People like patterns. I'm going to buy some PUTS on Spy next week that expire Nov 4.

Didn't end up "beating the game." Oh well.

Feel like the game peaked in the USB Era personally. That's when they started veering off straight power creep to upgrade and made the game about team compositions. Which was a great idea.

It was a good formula but eventually power creep has to happen. The problem is they didn't want the next level to straight obsolete the previous tier so they had to introduce gimmicky mechanics, and it worked for a while but the game collapsed under its own weight imo. It just became oppressive for new players to join.

I'm not sure there was a better way to do it though. If you made an upgrade to USBs that was just simple and straight better people probably lose interest.

Richter

Jafar
Dad
Scarecrow
Hannibal

I love OG Smash but that result sucks big time

FF7

I think the "problem" with Disney+ shows is they're just throwing more stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. So while we might get a gem we have less strict quality control than the movies would see and the success rate isn't as high-- whether this will damage the brand over time is anyone's guess but I think it's easy enough to just ignore Disney+ content you're not interested in and it won't really have an averse effect on hype for the movies. I still haven't watched Hawkeye (ironically one of the good ones and one I want to watch), Falcon and Winter Soldier, She-Hulk (started this, didn't grab me), and Moon Knight (started this, didn't like) despite having seen every movie aside from Eternals at this point.

There are more stinkers because of that but I agree with scarlet that it isn't inherently anything to do with the format.