Lurker > KamikazePotato

I reiterated the 450 stuffed vote bit because I think it's ridiculous that people don't take the registered voter boost into account when looking at the match as a whole. When Mega Man 'broke' the Noble Nine, no one seemed to care that he literally got more votes than Pikachu did. The Mario/Samus was egregious because without the boost, the margin wasn't even close - and quite frankly it was fun to play up because it played perfectly into the Villain Mario narrative.

I'll be blunt: you're just upset that your bracket and you're taking it out on the first person whose posts annoyed you the most even though they had nothing to do with you directly.
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XIII_rocks posted...

Your posts over the last 24 hours have been insulting in their sheer mind-numbing repetitiveness.

It's fun to exaggerate feelings in this contest because otherwise I wouldn't find later rounds very fun. I don't like any of these characters (and I'm hardly the only one continuously calling Mario a villain).

The strength relationship between Mario, Samus, Cloud, Snake, Zelda, and basically in the Legends topic is something that very few people can agree upon. I state my opinion when results happen or when someone posts an interpretation I disagree with. Sorry that contest didn't end up working out for you, but I'm under no obligation to stop making fun of a fictional character with no feelings. I picked Mario to go to the finals so I'm not exactly insulting the people who supported him.

Also according to Extha you basically made fun of him when Sephiroth lost him the contest that one time, so
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XIII_rocks posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

Mario is a goddamn loser. This is what happens when he faces someone he can't Hierarchy his way over. Cloud beat him and is going to lose to Zelda worse than Mario did simply because of no rSFF.

Holy fuck, get over it

I rallied Mario a lot (for a very understandable reason, it's not like I did it for shits and giggles) and he beat Samus. Then he lost and I got what I "deserved" in your warped vision of karmic justice

You don't need to labour the fucking point anymore

I am insulting a fictional character, not you
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Mario is a goddamn loser. This is what happens when he faces someone he can't Hierarchy his way over. Cloud beat him and is going to lose to Zelda worse than Mario did simply because of no rSFF.
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Nanis23 posted...

Zelda as Sheik is a sabotage

This btw
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Cloud moseying all over Zelda early on
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Seanchan posted...

Samus > Cloud > Mario > Samus

This is correct.
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Samus has proven herself to be stronger than Mario in every match that doesn't involve facing Mario and dealing with the hierarchy. That 57% on Snake is better than anything Mario could hope to accomplish.
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Samus would beat Cloud fairly easily.
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https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-ulti-9.png
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-boss-9.png

RIP people with high Zelda percentages
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Yeah those are some sabotage Zelda pics. Yikes.
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We saw Tifa/Samus again without Sephiroth in the same day and Tifa only did .3% better (and that was with a pic where her boobs were bigger than her head). I don't think it matters much. Tifa had Sephiroth in the same day as well when she beat Luigi with ease.
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LeonhartFour posted...

But will she keep it now that she's gone up against Link and still fell far short?

Now she's just an even bigger plucky underdog than before! At this point, will the voters really hold it against a character for not being able to beat Link?
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ZenOfThunder posted...

you guys get it pretty close to right every year and I have no idea how you do that.

This is how it looks:


This is how it really is:
http://www.nicedarts.com/iStock_000004700542XSmall.jpg
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LeonhartFour posted...

Well, if Cloud wins, we'll get a better idea when he faces Zelda.

Depends. Zelda has a bandwagon right now, which is going to muddle up the numbers for that match.
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The PSP version has worse overall presentation than the PS2 version, so unless you just want to play as the girl instead of the guy, it's a wash on which one is better.
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Zelda gets 53% on whoever wins
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Too many people here talking about potential rallies and asking someone to pony up the money so they can watch what happens. Spend the $5 yourself if you're so interested.
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XIII you need to watch your blood pressure dude
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Remember when it was generally understood that characters had shifting trends subject to significant random variation over 5-minute periods?

Or everything is a rally. That works too.
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Sonic put up the worst Round 1 Legends performance out of any character, then got blew out by Zelda, then got blew out by Snake. I don't think I've seen a single post about Sonic for the last few weeks that wasn't some variation on "Sonic sucks".
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XIII_rocks posted...

Not the semis. Just make Link the secret final boss.

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creativename posted...

Luigiman59 posted...

Link absolutely needs to be permanently retired. You remove him and the contest becomes unpredictable and more fun.

Im not sure how even the biggest Link fanboys can look at his performance and be like yeah knowing who is going to win before the contest even starts is much more entertaining. Selfish.

The notion of a popularity contest with the most popular characters removed is such a silly idea.

We've done this in many brackets, and each time in resulted in a better contest than if we hadn't. All these late game matches are 1/3 as exciting as they should be because the final winners spot isn't on the line.
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Also, going purely by raw unadjusted stats, Sonic looks like absolute trash.
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Snake is a big question mark for me. He had three good matches (the Zelda result was redeemed when Zelda turned around and beat Mario), and then ended his run by getting crushed by Samus. The final number on that one doesn't sit well with me.

I think indirectly, with no bandwagon strength, it goes:

Link>Samus>Mario>=Zelda=Snake>Crono=Mega Man>Sephiroth>Sonic

Am holding off on ranking Cloud.
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The Mega Men choked away pretty big overnight leads (especially X), but they would lose the night vote to an inanimate piece of stale toast.
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Gonna set the vote limit that Cloud needs to keep the match at to have a comeback chance at: 250 votes.
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Mario is always the villain but right now Mario is the VILLAIN. When's the last time a result like that (that didn't involve rallies) actually brought out feelings of legitimate disgust among voters?
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Thanks for the support guys. Always means a lot!
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Hmm. If you average out the last twenty minutes, this is actually a pretty decent start for Cloud
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Or maybe Mario just chokes it anyway
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Bandwagon Zelda vs Villainous Mario. That will be a fun board vote to watch.

Zelda had such a strong early vote against Link that she fell 17% after the freeze until the end of the match.
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I think there's no way Zelda doesn't clown him. It got lost among the shuffle, but that early vote against Link was legendary. The wind is in her favor.
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Well

I think we can officially confirm that Mario is the villain in the eyes of the early voters
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Nevermind lol
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Even if Mario builds a lead early, the night vote is going to brutalize him
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Cloud hasn't looked like the extreme anti-vote magnet he used to be, but this is still a really bad start for Mario. Mario had 64% on Sephiroth five minutes in.
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Samus would have blown the doors off this dude. Mario is getting his just desserts.
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Not the best start for Mario.
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Dapper pics aren't even sabotage
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Stolen from the Smash board.

https://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-interview-tidbits-smash-bros-ultimates-development-length-and-more/

Development actually started around February of 2016
Sakurai was aware of the Switch fairly early on and had been shown its design from the planning stages
Sakurai didnt really consider changing the layout based on what mode the game was played in
The Switchs LCD was a lot clearer than he had thought; there werent any problems even when in tabletop mode
Changing the layout between the portable, tabletop, and docked modes meant the teams work would have had to have been two-fold
It was pretty important in the grand scheme of things that it ended up not being necessary
On people struggling against the harder Spirits: Its important that your level should sufficiently match your opponents your immediate goal should be to level up your Spirits as you fight, not trying to do it in one giant leap.
Using King K. Rools stomach armor-based moves will grant him super armor. Taking too much damage will cause it to crack and leave him dazed, though.
Sakurai says that for online battles, itd probably be best if you didnt think too hard about how many wins and losses you have
Even if you have access to both, he believes itd be better to just look at how much youve won
Sakurai will take another look at Elite Matches after some time has passed, when its a little more intense
On the next Smash game: Itd be fine if there wasnt another one for about 10 years, dont you think? (laughs)
Sakurai received something close to an order for a new Smash Bros. since the Switch was coming out that was this game

This game was developed in less than 2 years???
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Why did you post an image of a Yu-Gi-Oh card?
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Not_Wylvane.exe has crashed. Please restart.
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Out of curiosity, how many female characters stayed static or dropped and how many exceeded expectations? Because using KOS-MOS as constant may not be ideal if females in general overperformed

I don't think a single one dropped. KOS-MOS actually slightly underperformed in her match against Ryu, though.

That's kind of the thing. Ryu's performances against Lloyd, Shepard, and KOS-MOS were all great. And then the Sephiroth match happened. Does anyone really believe that Amaterasu almost beats Ryu?
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Man this conversation got all real-life-y.

As long as you're not hurting anyone, do whatever the fuck you want with your life. Social milestones are suggestions, not rules. Does anything more need to be said?
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charmander6000 posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

If you take out Sephiroth/Ryu, a lot of results line of very well. Might have just to more or less disregard that result when making stats.

How does Vincent/KOS-MOS hold up?

I'm not sure - I'm holding off on full stats/adjustments/comparisons for Divisions 5-8 until we get Cloud/Mario (for as much as seeing that result will be worth).

With that said, Vincent is currently ranked slightly above Sub-Zero in his own division's stats, and the 2013 stats have them right next to each other. So it doesn't look that Vincent changed too much if at all. Assuming KOS-MOS stayed constant, that can be used as a comparison.
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If you take out Sephiroth/Ryu, a lot of results line of very well. Might have just to more or less disregard that result when making stats.
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Zelda>Ganondorf was confirmed the moment she mushed Squall into a fine paste. Now she's just unnecessarily making him look bad.
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Assuming the language barrier isn't a problem for you anymore (I would have never guessed it wasn't your first language if you hadn't said so), Steam is slowly gaining a lot of RPG ports. I assume that's how you're playing Berseria?
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A lot of the 'anonymous' users aren't as anonymous as the term implies. Otherwise we wouldn't get percentage-perfect results on reruns like Crono/Bowser. There's just a lot of lurkers on the site who don't necessarily register, but still visit often.
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