Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1321

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red sox 777
12/11/18 7:59:53 PM
#101:


Link winning is fun though. I was excited enough to do trend projections for yesterday's match, and Link ended up over 63% there. Watching Link gain 5000 votes with the ASV against Snake in the 2008 final was fun.

Crono and Link are my two favorite characters, and I probably wouldn't bother following the contest at all if Crono wasn't in the bracket. There are a lot more Link superfans out there than Crono superfans. If, at any point, more than 50% of the voters decide they don't want Link to win anymore - guess what? He'll lose.
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XIII_rocks
12/11/18 8:00:02 PM
#102:


Yeah this is the first time Link alone has been quite so far ahead of everyone else. At least before he was only getting like 54% on Snake, etc. He's really accelerated away from the field.
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ShatteredElysium
12/11/18 8:02:06 PM
#103:


I mean he did get BotW and everybody else got basically nothing. Some of them even being actively hurt by their devs just putting on a shit show over the last few years. I'd also assume that the less outsiders we get, the more it favors Link too
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Luigiman59
12/11/18 8:03:04 PM
#104:


red sox 777 posted...
Link winning is fun though. I was excited enough to do trend projections for yesterday's match, and Link ended up over 63% there. Watching Link gain 5000 votes with the ASV against Snake in the 2008 final was fun.

Crono and Link are my two favorite characters, and I probably wouldn't bother following the contest at all if Crono wasn't in the bracket. There are a lot more Link superfans out there than Crono superfans. If, at any point, more than 50% of the voters decide they don't want Link to win anymore - guess what? He'll lose.

This is a selfish man.
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Averia
12/11/18 8:03:32 PM
#105:


This is also why it's a good reason to retire him.
No one could make a serious argument he can be beaten.

He is clearly not fun for the board (just look at the board vote against Zelda).
People less interested in the contest or who just pass on Gamefaqs from time to time won't notice, but it's boring for this very board

If you wanted to make Link fun, make his votes count half and he would still beat most of the field.
That's how hideously and ridiculously too strong he is
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abdou
12/11/18 8:04:03 PM
#106:


we need a new GREAT MGS game and the FFVII Remake and then Link will have some competition once again.

as much as I dislike Link's dominance, removing him from the contests is just not right and would make our votals even worse than they already are.
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ShatteredElysium
12/11/18 8:04:38 PM
#107:


It will never happen but the contest I'd be most interested in would be one with some sort of handicap like how Vegas odds work
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Averia
12/11/18 8:06:42 PM
#108:


abdou posted...

as much as I dislike Link's dominance, removing him from the contests is just not right and would make our votals even worse than they already are.


I don't think it would change the votals much.
Actually, look how much our votals are declined, for all we know it could be due to Link !
I'm joking of course, but I'm pretty sure if he hadn't been in the bracket, nothing would have changed.
We are actually getting lower votals in legends than in the main brackets so he is clearly not drawing votes.
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lordjers
12/11/18 8:07:25 PM
#109:


If Link retires Zelda would get stronger and she'd win.
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TheOneAboveAll
12/11/18 8:10:19 PM
#110:


Power Hour over
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LeonhartFour
12/11/18 8:27:45 PM
#111:


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Not_Wylvane
12/11/18 8:28:41 PM
#112:


Do you guys think the Planet Gamecube and Hentai rallies will offset for this one?
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creativename
12/11/18 8:29:53 PM
#113:


KamikazePotato posted...
creativename posted...
Luigiman59 posted...
Link absolutely needs to be permanently retired. You remove him and the contest becomes unpredictable and more fun.

Im not sure how even the biggest Link fanboys can look at his performance and be like yeah knowing who is going to win before the contest even starts is much more entertaining. Selfish.

The notion of a popularity contest with the most popular characters removed is such a silly idea.

We've done this in many brackets, and each time in resulted in a better contest than if we hadn't. All these late game matches are 1/3 as exciting as they should be because the final winners spot isn't on the line.

So give Link a bye to the last two rounds.

Removing him totally because he always wins us just stupid. Its a *popularity* contest. The most popular character *should* win.

I dont get what these matches have to do with Link being removed? These matches arent that interesting because they are losers matches. It would be different if they counted.

In actuality one of the reasons Link is less interesting now is because of the anti-votes. Watching him smash turbofodder used to be fun. Now he cant reach those heights anymore.

I think removing Link altogether would just be dumb. If you want him to not take everybody out, either:

-Give him a bye to the semi-finals

-Put the entire Noble Nine plus Zelda plus Pikachu on the opposite side of the bracket from him. This way he doesnt prevent any interesting matches between elites.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/11/18 8:30:13 PM
#114:


Planet Gamecube is called Nintendo World Report now.
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LusterSoldier
12/11/18 8:30:23 PM
#115:


Rallying for Cloud would be possible on any Final Fantasy related subreddit, so Cloud has some rally sources available to him.
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XIII_rocks
12/11/18 8:31:59 PM
#116:


Not the semis. Just make Link the secret final boss.
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/11/18 8:32:05 PM
#117:


charmander6000 posted...
What contest do we want for 2019?
1. Best Console Contest
2. Villains Contest 2
3. Female Contest 2
4. Series Contest 2
5. Character Battle XI
6. Best Game Ever 4
7. Quotes Contest
8. Wait until 2020 for Game of the Decade 2


I love that you're willing to revisit Villains, Female, and Series, but not 2v2s.

I'm still going with my Couples Contest. At the very least, the nomination phase would be interesting.
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Not_Wylvane
12/11/18 8:32:19 PM
#118:


Give the voters what they want

A bracket entirely of Links.
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creativename
12/11/18 8:32:28 PM
#119:


lordjers posted...
If Link retires Zelda would get stronger and she'd win.

Very possible. Zeldrones proxies and so forth. She might win on natural strength, but remove Link altogether and she should boost.

Samus would be her main threat probably.

Not_Wylvane posted...
Do you guys think the Planet Gamecube and Hentai rallies will offset for this one?

Cross dressing Cloud hentai rallies. Of course!
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KamikazePotato
12/11/18 8:33:50 PM
#120:


XIII_rocks posted...
Not the semis. Just make Link the secret final boss.

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Dfy556
12/11/18 8:34:32 PM
#121:


Cloud should beat Mario
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XIII_rocks
12/11/18 8:36:17 PM
#122:


Why can't this just be simple

I need to sleep
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OrangeCrush980
12/11/18 8:36:26 PM
#123:


Series contest could be fun. With how much this site loves Smash Bros it might be able to challenge Legend of Zelda now.
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LusterSoldier
12/11/18 8:41:57 PM
#124:


OrangeCrush980 posted...
Series contest could be fun. With how much this site loves Smash Bros it might be able to challenge Legend of Zelda now.


Pokemon would also be a lot stronger today than we saw in 2006 - a top 3 series in strength now.

With an expanded field of 64 game series, we could fit in some more series that were introduced after 2006 such as Mass Effect, The Witcher, and Dark Souls.
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lordjers
12/11/18 8:45:45 PM
#125:


It'd be interesting to see Mass Effect smashing Ultima just to expose the claim of people not playing new games is BS (though it'd be kinda sad).
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XIII_rocks
12/11/18 8:45:56 PM
#126:


Devastating

I'll be up in an hour to find Cloud with a 100+ vote lead.
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_Dog_
12/11/18 8:46:04 PM
#127:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
charmander6000 posted...
What contest do we want for 2019?
1. Best Console Contest
2. Villains Contest 2
3. Female Contest 2
4. Series Contest 2
5. Character Battle XI
6. Best Game Ever 4
7. Quotes Contest
8. Wait until 2020 for Game of the Decade 2


I love that you're willing to revisit Villains, Female, and Series, but not 2v2s.

I'm still going with my Couples Contest. At the very least, the nomination phase would be interesting.

Can we not?
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haloiscoolisbak
12/11/18 8:46:34 PM
#128:


XIII_rocks posted...
Why can't this just be simple

I need to sleep


Stop crying go rally your co workers again

I'm sure they won't think less of you
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TheOneAboveAll
12/11/18 8:47:41 PM
#129:


I'm wondering if Monkey Island would be weaker in a series contest than Guybrush Threepwood was in Character Battles.

I'm also inclined to believe that that might be our perfect stats crossover, because those should be absolutely equal in strength.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/11/18 8:48:09 PM
#130:


lordjers posted...
It'd be interesting to see Mass Effect smashing Ultima just to expose the claim of people not playing new games is BS (though it'd be kinda sad).


Are we sure Mass Effect wins that one? >_>
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abdou
12/11/18 8:51:21 PM
#131:


This actually looks good for Cloud! he is not letting Mario run away with the match. Cloud will need to build a sizeable lead during the night though, a 400-500 votes lead would be good.
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Ulti_PCA
12/11/18 8:52:20 PM
#132:


Cloud.

Mario.

The rematch 16 years in the making!
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creativename
12/11/18 8:53:32 PM
#133:


TheOneAboveAll posted...
I'm wondering if Monkey Island would be weaker in a series contest than Guybrush Threepwood was in Character Battles.

I'm also inclined to believe that that might be our perfect stats crossover, because those should be absolutely equal in strength.

Monkey Island should be significantly stronger than Guybrush due to respect factor. Many people that would vote for Monkey Island due to reputation have probably never even heard of Guybrush.

I do feel a lot of people underestimate respect voting factor from people who have played neither game.

MI/Guybrush should be like SOTC/whatshisface but to a much lesser extent.

LusterSoldier posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Series contest could be fun. With how much this site loves Smash Bros it might be able to challenge Legend of Zelda now.


Pokemon would also be a lot stronger today than we saw in 2006 - a top 3 series in strength now.

With an expanded field of 64 game series, we could fit in some more series that were introduced after 2006 such as Mass Effect, The Witcher, and Dark Souls.

I am not convinced Pokmon is clearly above each of Mario Bros., Smash, and Final Fantasy.

I think weve passed peak Mass Effect.
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MetalmindStats
12/11/18 8:56:35 PM
#134:


I would be interested in a Best Series or Villains sequel, or a Best Console contest for 2019.
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creativename
12/11/18 8:56:48 PM
#135:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
lordjers posted...
It'd be interesting to see Mass Effect smashing Ultima just to expose the claim of people not playing new games is BS (though it'd be kinda sad).


Are we sure Mass Effect wins that one? >_>

I uh, cant tell to what degree youre joking. But Id presume Ultima would be very weak on this site.

It was before the time of most here, and from an era where the people that come to this site were all about consoles.
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WarThaNemesis2
12/11/18 8:56:51 PM
#136:


the rivalry rumble was a defacto series contest, imho
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WarThaNemesis2
12/11/18 8:57:13 PM
#137:


ultima vs. mass effect would be a measure of just how many anti-votes mass effect can get
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Ulti_PCA
12/11/18 8:57:48 PM
#138:


If you think Mass Effect was ruined as a series, play Ultima. The only reason that downfall isn't more publicized is because that series has 6 fans.
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ad_absurdum
12/11/18 9:00:36 PM
#139:


Cloud/Barret would beat Link/Zelda
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tennisboy213
12/11/18 9:02:38 PM
#140:


looks like the Mario stuffer has a script set up to resume stuffing when the lead gets under 100
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WarThaNemesis2
12/11/18 9:03:00 PM
#141:


tennisboy213 posted...
looks like the Mario stuffer has a script set up to resume stuffing when the lead gets under 100


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Calintares
12/11/18 9:03:13 PM
#142:


Ulti_PCA posted...
Cloud.

Mario.

The rematch 16 years in the making!


This has to be the record for longest wait between initial encounter and rematch, right?
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Team Rocket Elite
12/11/18 9:05:19 PM
#143:


creativename posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
lordjers posted...
It'd be interesting to see Mass Effect smashing Ultima just to expose the claim of people not playing new games is BS (though it'd be kinda sad).


Are we sure Mass Effect wins that one? >_>

I uh, cant tell to what degree youre joking. But Id presume Ultima would be very weak on this site.

It was before the time of most here, and from an era where the people that come to this site were all about consoles.


Yeah, I was joking about it losing to Ultima. I don't think Mass Effect has fallen that far.
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ninkendo
12/11/18 9:06:57 PM
#144:


looks like the FF7 power hour is finally over
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swirIdude
12/11/18 9:07:05 PM
#145:


lordjers posted...
If Link retires Zelda would get stronger and she'd win.


Proxy voting has never happened in the years where the top competitors were excluded from the main bracket, why would that change now?
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Team Rocket Elite
12/11/18 9:08:05 PM
#146:


That was a nice 48 vote gain for Mario.
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haloiscoolisbak
12/11/18 9:11:08 PM
#147:


Where the fuck was this Mario when I needed him against Zelda

Fuck me
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FinalFantasyVll
12/11/18 9:12:10 PM
#148:


Any of you assholes want to defend THIS cheating?
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Haste_2
12/11/18 9:15:07 PM
#149:


48 gain for Mario? Now he just needs to repeat that like five more times. I didn't realize I was doing fairly well in the contest until I found that I was #50 today. Maybe if Mario can pull off those wins... just maaaaaybe I could win a prize if enough people did not pick Mario.

200-vote barrier cast!

ShatteredElysium posted...
It will never happen but the contest I'd be most interested in would be one with some sort of handicap like how Vegas odds work


I'd love it if the bracket-makers predicted how well each character would do, which would decide the odds and therefore the handicaps. Mega Man might be able to win a contest for once!
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OrangeCrush980
12/11/18 9:15:18 PM
#150:


Clutch hard, clutch early
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