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Also MZero hasn't done his day scan yet.

I say scan Kirby.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Kibys ability doesn't seen pro town but I am hung up on why he'd claim it as scum

He'd claim it as scum to look town. That's about the only reason, and I don't know if Kirby would make that move as scum.

Lopen posted...

I don't care if he's telling the truth about his role, he is lying about wanting to poison me and definitely wanted to poison Lea. That should be lynchable.

Yeah, I think we should lynch Kirby tbh. Even if he's town, he could result in a lot more collateral damage than necessary. Especially since he could've thrown out a hinky vote so literally nobody would be harmed by it, as I'd do with the role he's describing on Day 1.

Also worth noting: I'd say in my first post D1 that I don't want to vote for the same person as somebody else until at least D3. Kirby didn't say this until 2.181, which was with an hour left in the day, and said he didn't mind if it was "just" Lopen and Ulti. That right there is a red flag to me. Again, I would not have wanted to end up on the same train as ANYBODY, and would've thrown a hinky vote out there unless of course the role stipulates that you have to be on a train with somebody else or you put yourself in peril, or something to that effect.

Even so, I wouldn't mind being policy lynched D2 with an anti-town role. The fact that Kirby isn't willing to be a sacrifice for the better of town raises an eyebrow.

wallmasterz posted...

BCT if you can still see my chat with Lopen can you confirm if Im remembering this correctly? Lopen had Sultan in his poe? I remember agreeing with that too. But my memory is very hit or miss.

I do still have access... Ctrl+F "Sultan"

3 results, all from you, Wall. Seems Sultan was not mentioned as possible scum at all.

Lopen posted...

I didn't because BCT was being wink wink about it and I was still on the fence about what to do with Chris so I wanted to see where it was going

This whole thing feels like a town that refuses to communicate with itself, and I've contributed to that.

I am sorry.

Hit Me with Your Best Shot

MZero posted...

question for everyone: If you had a day scan right now who would you scan asking for a friend

tbh, ask yourself "Who would kill Red N1 despite Red not doing anything?" and scan that person. That feels like a Chris kill, and FD's name got thrown out as someone who would do it, too.

I don't know about SBell. He was pretty active D1 and I know for a while there he was less engaged because he kept rolling scum. Has that changed?

Enchantress posted...

BCT can you please elaborate on why you thought Lopen and Wallz would be a good neighborhood?

I've already said. Because they were at odds D1, and I was getting the sense that they weren't the same alignment, which the chat only confirmed further. I thought that pairing them together with what little information I had was the best idea.

That and the EOD spooked me so I wanted to get something useful out of it that could help my town case.

Enchantress posted...

What cruel monster poisoned me day one? Surely not my dear friend Scare

Have you read ANYTHING I've posted?

I just went to the Lost Old Games Site to ISO Red. He had all of six posts in this game across both of his accounts.

1. He thought Lopen was scum for putting himself on a "deathlist" on T1P1 (1.27)
2. He fell asleep trying to read and couldn't catch up (1.403)
3. He felt it was easy to interpolate whose flavor was what but found doing so a waste of time (1.407)
4. Calls SBell town (1.449)

That's it. The only two posts in this topic were about being chauffeur for his cousin and Disneyland.

What there would make scum want him dead? He wasn't posting much, and could easily have been mislynched since he... didn't seem that engaged?

Lopen posted...

Note BCT believed my ability so I think Wallz probably would have if he wasn't informed about

I think BCT should review the early part of the chat. I said I had a guilty scan on Chris and his reaction was "how are you gonna trap him so he can't claim miller" or something it was so weird

Wall certainly said this.

And this is a zany role game, so I'll believe anything like your claim. In most games I'd be like... what.

wallmasterz posted...

BCT seems to have an innocent scan and that is probably an insurmountable hurdle.

All I have is the chat log, which leads me to believe that one of you and Lopen is town, the other is not.

I was bluffing a bit. The "source" I was referring to was Lopen, and I was awaiting to see what he'd say in response to me fishing.

And now I don't know what to believe because this didn't go quite the way I was hoping it would lol

Lopen posted...

If Chris is scum and Wallz is scum who believes I neighbored him, I am night killed I'm fairly certain

Either Wallz is town and Chris is ???
Or Wallz is scum and Chris is town

They can't both be scum or I'd be dead.

Yeah, this makes sense because of your fake scan result. So Wall can't be in a scum chat with Chris, unless they did an insane gambit thinking you were bluffing or something. Got it.

I don't know why Red was killed, though. That's what doesn't make ANY sense to me.

Took you long enough.

Yes, I created that chat, and yes, I saw it. Thought it would be highly informative to put you two together to see what transpired after what happened D1. I was leaning toward the thought that they were not the same alignment, but I had to submit my action before EOD if I was using it.

This should explain why I waited - Lopen admitting that his guilty scan on Chris was bull is odd to me - and why I didn't want to come out with anything out of the gate. It's also why I voted Chris: To confirm to Lopen. The goal here was for me and Lopen to find the same town wavelength again, and I can't be quite sure if that's what's happening if Lopen isn't being forthcoming. Sorry, but I can't quite be sure which one of you I trust at this point!

##unvote

Lopen posted...

because I'm not dead either Chris is town or Wallz is town

I don't follow how Chris fits into this.

SirChris posted...

I would always enjoy killing red as scum however I am too busy being town this game.

Anyway this feels like a scum Chris post.

##vote: Chris

SHINE_GET_64 posted...

After letting it sit in my fridge for 2 hours I ended up tossing it because I couldn't bring myself to eat it after what had happened. Was this tarnishing their legacy maybe but I couldn't do it

This is a bad thing. You should have donated it to someone hungry.

Even so, I get the trauma. Sorry you had to go through that... and thoughts and hugs to this person's loved ones, too. Hope they're okay.

Lopen posted...

Aliens?

Sure, let's go with that. ;)

Lopen is town, Ulti.

However, I am 99% sure of two people who are not after my action last night. I will be awaiting my source to confirm on one of those. The other is on my end.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So you think that scares ability could randomly hit a team mate then?

Yes, it certainly reads that way. But let's actually focus on killing scum now that we know how Scare died, yes? Any attempts to prolong this discussion from here on are unnecessary.

Enchantress posted...

To spend the rest of the game saying he's so clearly confirmed town by this random dice roll

This... does not confirm me town at all.

I just wanted to get that out there quickly so people knew what happened with Scare, and didn't start throwing around theories that were untrue. That's a waste of time.

Lopen posted...

I don't buy Scare risks his life to kill you when he had an A-7 and you had 10-2. There's also nothing to indicate the victim knows they're being targeted

I was not told I was targeted until the hand had been played. I do not believe he would have known what my cards were, only his own - which had the Ace of Spades.

And Lopen, just between us, I want to assure you that I am town yet again, and that I know. That is all.

I do hope this message doesn't confuse anyone else, but all will be revealed in time.

Lopen posted...

Full Hands - quickly

What?

I was literally challenged to a game of Dead Man's Hand. I didn't know who did it - and figured it had to be scum - until the flip. I drew a Brunson Special (ten-deuce, for you non-poker people), and as Scare's flavor indicated... I won with a runner runner backdoor flush. Hearts.

Enchantress posted...

You were informed and had a choice to accept or not? Nothing in Scare's PM mentions that.

No, I was informed that it took place, and that I did not have a choice in the matter.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Did you know that you won?

We're you told what cards scare had?

Yes and yes. He had the A-7 of spades.

I rather enjoyed that game of Dead Man's Hand, Scare. It was great giving you a taste of the Doyle Brunson Special. :P

And now I know it was indeed scum who challenged me to that duel. Good to know!

8.5/10 - some good characters and an intricate story, but the pacing runs from great to outright bad (though it's far from the worst case with that), and sometimes you get a little confused as to where you need to go next. Still very enjoyable, with some memorable personalities and storylines despite that.

Previous topics (IIRC I only voted in the first one and am not seeing any posts in the other topics in my history):
1-2: 6.5/10 - great concept, but the bad guy is just too easy to take down with after all the buildup, and it thus ends with a whimper
1-3: 6/10 - goes on way too long and doesn't get exciting until the third investigation day
1-4: 9.5/10 - fantastic the whole way through, it's long but doesn't drag; it's the best case in the first game

Rugrats
SpongeBob
Fairly Oddparents
Avatar: The Last Airbender

The first two are indisputable. There are like five shows competing for those last two spots (the other three being Ren & Stimpy, Doug, and Hey Arnold; I simply went with the ones with the most staying power).

One of these divisions is not like the other...

Easy Vote Form
OCTAZOOKA
+3 Urshifu
+2 Deerling
+1 Deino
-1 Fidough
-2 Woobat
-3 Serperior

At least Stantler finally got semi-redemption by getting an evolution. I see three Gen IX mons that I am pretty "what ever" about, but good Arceus, are there a lot I would downvote in any other division here!

Gen V starters suck in general, but Serperior is easily the worst of them.

PAIN SPLIT
+3 Kingambit
+2 Marowak
+1 Blissey
-1 Iron Boulder
-2 Glimmet
-3 Unfezant

Kingambit may be the one I'm most looking forward to using in Gen IX. Marowak-A is awesome. This division is pretty great though.

1 > 6 > 5 > 7 > meh

Gen 4 needed more fire types BADLY. Infernape is pretty great though.

Anyway I am outta here, if you want to lynch me, go ahead. I don't care.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I literally just said I feel confident that SBell is town.

It's also D1, when I don't have enough information. I'm doing my best but there's not much else to go on here.

You just became my strongest scum read. Now I have to defend myself instead of finding scum, and you know it.

Lea, would you rather me BS reasons as to why I didn't think things through?

I simply thought that not voting at all is unusual for me, and since I still haven't rolled scum in a year and a half that people would take such an anomaly as a red flag.

...

##vote: Lea

I do NOT like that vote, not at all.

Obellisk posted...

And I'm not trying to defend death or stop you from specialing him bct. Just felt like you were talking about one thing and then poof, voted death.

Yeah, I will admit I didn't think through who was on him or how that vote would make me look bad. I was more preoccupied with the thought that NOT voting at all for the day would make me look bad, lol

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

Obellisk posted...

do you feel strongly about death being scum or just riding the special?

had anyone made you feel bad? you said Lopen made you feel weird, what was that?

I don't know how I feel about Lopen anymore - at least once Sultan gave him that extra vote.

I don't feel strongly about anyone right now, but I wanted to at least vote so riding the special was as good an option as any.

I'm not going to throw out any BS here. That's literally all it is. However, I got some good info and feel confident you're town, SBell, so there's a start.

##unvote

Obellisk posted...

bct, why death?

IDK, I got nothing else to latch onto right now except for this B8 Special. As I said, early game is not my thing.

Kirby321 posted...

I'll be transparent in that I don't want to be voting the same person as too many other people. I know that sounds extremely scummy, but just trust me on that front.

How do we know this is a town role you have?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also my son won his game!

Tell him congrats from me!

...I don't know what else there is to say right now tbh.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Death should be around EOD. Doing it now or doing it an hour from now doesn't really make a difference

I won't be around at EOD actually. It's an hour later than I thought.

Death is at... 4 votes by my count. I'll make that 5.

##vote: Death

PIKA PAPOW
+3 Giratina
+2 Zweilous
+1 Bagon
-1 Tandemaus
-2 Iron Valiant
-3 Iron Hands

Weak division. Just more Gen IX Pokemon I don't like the concept of...

AMNESIA
+3 Azelf
+2 Rockruff
+1 Lucario
-1 Trumbeak
-2 Spinda
-3 Quilava

Love my Azelf. Rockruff is awesome. Lucario doesn't need the help. Spinda's "forms" are so whatever because Spinda itself sucks. Quilava is such a "whatever" middle evo.

Okay, I should be far more active from here, after the birthday + hangover, the sportsball, and the raiding party today (Pokemon Go). Will be way less busy the next few days. Admittedly, I'm not on my A-game right now, or maybe there's just been so little content that I don't have much that I can deduce.

Vibe checks... Lopen is weirding me out with his approach this time, but I can't tell why. FD voting Kirby there is out of nowhere.

...yeah, early game is NOT my thing.

ScareChan posted...

the question is if I vote Lopen am I voting Lopen or BCT

Explain. I don't follow, since I cannot claim my flavour (and know that "Lopen" is such an example), you do the math.

I like MZero putting a stop to Lopen's smokescreen. It's day 1, so locking in a vote when someone is behaving erratically is pro-town. If he'd have saved that power for later, I wouldn't have liked it. Lopen continuing to just keep voting everyone for no reason was not a good look, though.

Enchantress posted...

Happy birthday BCT

Thank you, Lea!

wallmasterz posted...

too many BlueMoonBeers eh?

I live in Wisconsin so it's Spotted Cow actually.

And at the local birthday place, anything on tap is bottomless.

fyi guys a game starting on one's birthday is a genuinely terrible idea but I think I've finally fought off the hangover

Hi, will play catch-up tonight!

TomNook7 posted...

Okay so this is the account I confused NBIceman with. I already know im an idiot ok

Yeah, I was gonna say when I saw you confused him and I, lol

once a year I get together with my old internet friends, and we reminisce on the old forum days, and one time they were like "Hey Josh, remember when you invited that guy andyman to our forum?" and I just had to sit there and let them laugh at me and take the L.

Those were the days. I'm a very different person now than I was then. I think the medication change helped a LOT. So if I were to join that, I might blow their minds too. I fully admit that back then, I wasn't a good fit for TUV. (Yes, I remember the name.) Now... I struggle getting accepted in lots of places no matter how I modify my behavior. I just wish people were more willing to talk to each other and see where they're coming from. I don't mean harm to anyone and just having a conversation would help others realize that.

But whatever its all good. And nah I haven't watched Survivor in forever. God I forgot we used to go hard on that shit here on b8 with Inviso and everyone. I think I even ran Save my Survivor? Between this and Pun's post I'm now suffering from second hand embarrassment, so thanks a lot guyz

Current season of Survivor actually started off pretty good but it's probably going to devolve into more gamebot crap and boy, do I hate that. I only still watch to spend time with my dad tbh.

And there are still a handful of us talking about it in the "Reality Show topic" - including Inviso.

Water Sport Division
+3 Slowbro
+2 Crustle
+1 Gligar
-1 Bastiodon
-2 Beheeyem
-3 Bruxish

I like a few here, but don't "love" anything - and there are several I just do not care for at all.

Electroweb Division
+3 Sneasler
+2 Drilbur
+1 Mabosstiff
-1 Pincurchin
-2 Silicobra
-3 Finizen

This division sucks. I didn't know anything about Finizen other than that it was the dolphin, but... what's the fucking point of it when its "evolution" is the exact same thing?? Never heard of Fezandipiti but apparently that's an expansion 'mon. That's why.

Added both my ESPN brackets. Thankfully that was where I'd already done my coin flip one.

My real name (Andy P) has been pretty public on here for some time so I don't mind.

Blaziken posted...

Man, that would've been so much better if the ad during Survivor hadn't spoiled it happening.

You mean the Pinks skipping the Detour and accidentally finding the Roadblock? That was funny, but nothing new.

Off

Drake

Mewtwo59 posted...

Eh, it started out well with Jelinsky's boot, but the last three episodes have dragged due to the obvious Jess and Bhanu boots.

I don't care how obvious a boot is. The Jess episode was great because of Jess. Last week was fun except for the ending. This episode is great because it's actually making me feel something. Yes, it's sad, but I much prefer feeling emotions to watching gamebots calculate data.

Remember that Bhanu doesn't have a vote so he can't play the Shit in the Dark. Poor guy. He was so entertaining, but I honestly think four episodes of him is plenty. Here's hoping dealing with him, Jess, and Jelinsky keeps Kenzie, Tiff, and Q unstable for the rest of the game. Because it would be mighty boring otherwise.

Glad this pre-merge has been pretty lit though, if only because of Yanu's chaos and Nami not enjoying each other's company either.

Blaziken posted...

Also, I just want to point out the hilarity of continuity this episode. Reward challenge: Tim jumps out of the boat onto an unstable, floating platform and beefs it. Immunity challenge: Tim jumps off the dock onto an unstable, floating platform and just about beefs it.

If only Mario Lanza still watched the show (IIRC he stopped after 42), this would be a perfect #113 on Funny115 v5.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

OKAY, Yanu is definitely losing the immunity, lol

Called it!

Pokewars posted...

Zero fun when the same tribe keeps going to tribal.

Yeah it's more fun when other tribes cannibalize themselves.

There may be a dissolution next week. I know there's no swap because of the idol instructions but a dissolution is entirely possible.

Blaziken posted...

I just realized...they have thirty minutes left and haven't even done immunity yet. They're gonna have like...no time for tribal council.

Unless this challenge is quick... or there's another MedEvac... or Bhanu breaks down again and quits to spite his tribe... or there's a "To Be Continued..."

They are actually showing the boats bringing them in. No more "Swim to shore!" BS that we all know is BS.

Blaziken posted...

God, PLEASE let Siga lose immunity, because I can't deal with this overly positive kumbayah stuff.

We haven't seen much of Nami yet so...

Even so, I want Siga to lose too, so shit hits the fan.

Blaziken posted...

I don't know why...something about Tevin not breaking down and crying during that story made it feel more genuine.

I like it better when the castaway brings it up on their own volition. It's awful when production asks castaways to cue the waterworks. Tevin clearly felt haunted by his dad's death and he didn't need to cry to make it seem that way. That's why it felt real.

Also Q coaching Bhanu is AMAZING. And Kenzie being catty on top of it... this tribe is FIRE.

OKAY, Yanu is definitely losing the immunity, lol

Ugh two challenges in an episode

If they had actual challenge variety, this wouldn't be a complaint. But it's more filler for the sake of filler.