Board 8 > CYOF Mafia Day 1.2

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Updated Votals
Sultan(3) - (Lopen), Chris, FD, Lea,
Mzero(3) - Lopen, Kirby, Ulti
Kirby(1) - Scare,
Wallz (1) - Sultan,
Chris(0) - (Lopen), (Ulti),
Corrik - (Sultan), (Lopen)
Lopen - (Chris), (Ulti), (FD), (Corrik), (Sultan), (Lea), (Mzero), (Wallz),
Red - (Lopen)
Ulti - (Lopen), (Kirby),
Lea - (Lopen), (Lopen), (Sultan),
FD - (Lopen)

ScareChan posted...

So you'd lynch yourself over me, thanks Lopen

I would

Lopen is sad he cant date anyone

htaeD posted...

Now thats just not progressive scumhunting.
You should want to catch scum in a lie or a slip with questions like those.

I do it sometimes

Feel like any explanation he'd give would be nonsense though. It's glaring enough on its face.

I have a proven recent track record of town of being the first person to pick up on Lopen being scum based on nothing more than d1 vibes. Doesnt mean hes scum for certain but it does mean I feel confident and dont take back my suspicion no matter who thinks I need to course correct

See, Wallz, what's making me raise my eyebrow at you is that Lopen voting and unvoting isn't inherently scummy. It's a weak reason to accuse Lopen of being scum.

I could vote and unvote everybody and no one would bat an eye. It's weird, but is it inherently scummy? Not really. Nothing happens! ... As far as we're aware, at least. If Lopen starts voting and unvoting everyone tomorrow, then we might want to look at him again.

I know it's D1, but it just feels like a very weak argument.

Also, I've decided to be lazy and not go to the thing I was planning on going to tonight. So I'll be here at EoD.

You've "caught" me one time

This a front. One successful catch giving this amount of confidence doesn't make sense.

FD is another player I am disappointed by on a reread.
At best he is consistent in tunneling Kirby, but he doesnt diversify himself much

Kirby321 posted...

Also, I've decided to be lazy and not go to the thing I was planning on going to tonight. So I'll be here at EoD.

And your vote on Mzero remains?

FD feels like he's crutching on roleplaying to avoid playing a bit much like Chris.

Suspect Chris way more for it though

Wallz is tunneling and admitted as much
Feel like he jumped on Lopen for a lazy reason but added more reasoning afterwards.
That said he does seem to be more antagonistic towards Lopen than vice versa.

Kirby meanwhile was stuck in perpetual silly mode while also picking odd moments to be serious.

Admitting tunneling arguably makes it worse imo

I've got something resembling a read on most of the game

Wallz is just "Lopen bad sbell good" p much

Thats at least technically correct.

Btw I give Sultan some minor points for having the creativity to call Lopen and Chris scummates scheming together.

Kirby321 posted...

See, Wallz, what's making me raise my eyebrow at you is that Lopen voting and unvoting isn't inherently scummy. It's a weak reason to accuse Lopen of being scum.

I could vote and unvote everybody and no one would bat an eye. It's weird, but is it inherently scummy? Not really. Nothing happens! ... As far as we're aware, at least. If Lopen starts voting and unvoting everyone tomorrow, then we might want to look at him again.

I know it's D1, but it just feels like a very weak argument.

Again my vote is getting unfairly characterized. Its not just about voting everyone, Lopen didnt seem like his town self to start the game to me. Did all his voting raise an eyebrow for me, sure, but thats not my sole factor for voting him. I noticed what Id call a comparatively low-value activity compared to what I was already looking for. Since I voted him he has made a couple good posts that felt more like town Lopen. That doesnt totally erase my initial suspicion but it was enough for me to unvote for now.

Sultan is remaining too cool under this glacial pressure to be scum I think

Mzero is the bigger town read for me over Sbell, but yes I think both are town.

A lot of people have basically sat around and twiddled their thumbs and they arent all scum, but Im certainly willing to be some of them are. It would be nice if folks chimed in more before days end.

Lopen posted...

Sultan is remaining too cool under this glacial pressure to be scum I think

is sultan really under that much pressure? How do you expect him to act under pressure? Are we really gonna act like sultan didnt kick ass in champs last year including having a scum slip and still surviving lol

This just feels like more empty content from Lopen. But no one else sees what Im seeing so whatever Ill drop it for now

I think in this environment where no one has said much sitting at 3 in the lead forever is kinda pressure.

Updated Votals
Sultan(3) - (Lopen), Chris, FD, Lea,
Mzero(3) - Lopen, Kirby, Ulti
Kirby(1) - Scare,
Wallz(1) - Sultan
Chris - (Lopen), (Ulti),
Corrik - (Sultan), (Lopen)
Lopen - (Chris), (Ulti), (FD), (Corrik), (Sultan), (Lea), (Mzero), (Wallz),
Red - (Lopen)
Ulti - (Lopen), (Kirby),
Lea - (Lopen), (Lopen), (Sultan),
FD - (Lopen)

Lopen posted...

FD feels like he's crutching on roleplaying to avoid playing a bit much like Chris.

Suspect Chris way more for it though

Yes, to an extent it's role-playing.

In a more real sense, it's my wife's birthday on Monday so my ability to play collosal amounts of time is down.

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Err, I mean. Ahem:

I already caught Kirby D1T1, what more do you want from me?! Not my fault you won't take the gift of intellectual deduction in offering to you freely.

Why wait to vote Kirby for so long then?

Vote sbell not Kirby

Sbell is the only one with a good case cause no one else is playing

Okay, I should be far more active from here, after the birthday + hangover, the sportsball, and the raiding party today (Pokemon Go). Will be way less busy the next few days. Admittedly, I'm not on my A-game right now, or maybe there's just been so little content that I don't have much that I can deduce.

Vibe checks... Lopen is weirding me out with his approach this time, but I can't tell why. FD voting Kirby there is out of nowhere.

...yeah, early game is NOT my thing.

Lopen posted...

Vote sbell not Kirby

Sbell is the only one with a good case cause no one else is playing

I am not gonna reward inactivity like that
Besides I am getting tired, and my new main goal is to keep Mzero alive mostly

ergo

##Vote: Kirby

Kirby needs to get back and explain his reason for voting Mzero, IMO

Updated Votals
Mzero(3) - Lopen, Kirby, Ulti
Kirby(3) - Scare, FD, Death,
Sultan(2) - (Lopen), Chris, (FD), Lea,
Wallz(1) - Sultan
Chris - (Lopen), (Ulti),
Corrik - (Sultan), (Lopen)
Lopen - (Chris), (Ulti), (FD), (Corrik), (Sultan), (Lea), (Mzero), (Wallz),
Red - (Lopen)
Ulti - (Lopen), (Kirby),
Lea - (Lopen), (Lopen), (Sultan),
FD - (Lopen)

Lopen posted...

Vote sbell not Kirby

Sbell is the only one with a good case cause no one else is playing

You aren't even voting Sbell

Oh right, you can't

FD, He cant

FD slipping from his usual role of archivist
The curse of marriage

Anyway Ulti should see reason that his vote for Mzero is bogus
Or maybe he is just scum.

As an FYI, in about 40 mins my son has a hockey tournament game that will be starting so at that point and the following hour I will be fairly indisposed. I'll have two opportunities to check in for a couple mins, but for the last hour of the day you guys will have my undivided attention.

Vote me over Kirby

Death voting Kirby but not Sultan to protect Mzero is noted

I'm real sorry for my absence all day, my brother in law ended up coming over and we've been playing boars games all day / basketball.
I'll read back the events of the day but it appears not a lot is happening for some reason.

Archivist? Do pages before this one even exist? And people read them?That sounds awful.

Death and FD probably both scum. So red probably town

I am up to kill the one that is backwards Death, for the aliens do not like this perversion of the natural order of the universe.

Special Death

Lopen posted...

Special Death

As long as you agree with my outstanding theory about aliens being real and converting their hivemind into a mafia sleuthing ability I will do this, yes yes.

##vote: death

The aliens have long assisted me

Lopen posted...

The aliens have long assisted me

They also wanted to flash wagon you at the start of the game

No they didn't.

They were channeling with my waveform pathways to generate content.

Lopen posted...

No they didn't.

They were channeling with my waveform pathways to generate content.

You beleive Chris would have called off the dogs if you got that close to being lynched at the start of day?

Could be why the "Aliens" wanted to switch to me I suppose.

Ifk Chris' is just a way for him to have fun and say his reads or whatever but it still doesn't come off well to me lol

chris, the alien bit does not pass the vibe check. vibe is in shambles

what has you going this route? You know people will follow and sheep you very easily if you push for it.

I don't have the energy to try and lynch you, but I'm not feeling whatever you're doing

I would gladly endorse the aliens telling you to vote for Kirby though. That would improve the vibe exponentially