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What cruel monster poisoned me day one? Surely not my dear friend Scare

BCT can you please elaborate on why you thought Lopen and Wallz would be a good neighborhood?

I just went to the Lost Old Games Site to ISO Red. He had all of six posts in this game across both of his accounts.

1. He thought Lopen was scum for putting himself on a "deathlist" on T1P1 (1.27)
2. He fell asleep trying to read and couldn't catch up (1.403)
3. He felt it was easy to interpolate whose flavor was what but found doing so a waste of time (1.407)
4. Calls SBell town (1.449)

That's it. The only two posts in this topic were about being chauffeur for his cousin and Disneyland.

What there would make scum want him dead? He wasn't posting much, and could easily have been mislynched since he... didn't seem that engaged?

Lopen posted...

Note BCT believed my ability so I think Wallz probably would have if he wasn't informed about

I think BCT should review the early part of the chat. I said I had a guilty scan on Chris and his reaction was "how are you gonna trap him so he can't claim miller" or something it was so weird

Wall certainly said this.

And this is a zany role game, so I'll believe anything like your claim. In most games I'd be like... what.

Lopen posted...

FD as scum probably.

I'm not scum, I would have targeted Chris, like I tried to do last game.

And if Chris is scum I still don't target red, he barely posts and it's obvious that he was the flavorless player.

But moreover, I already found a scum T1P1 and that should be all the proof you need.

Enchantress posted...

BCT can you please elaborate on why you thought Lopen and Wallz would be a good neighborhood?

I've already said. Because they were at odds D1, and I was getting the sense that they weren't the same alignment, which the chat only confirmed further. I thought that pairing them together with what little information I had was the best idea.

That and the EOD spooked me so I wanted to get something useful out of it that could help my town case.

Enchantress posted...

What cruel monster poisoned me day one? Surely not my dear friend Scare

Have you read ANYTHING I've posted?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

And this is a zany role game, so I'll believe anything like your claim. In most games I'd be like... what

That's what I was playing off of tbh

Scare likes killing red too its not that complicated. They probably thought red was spooky or something.

Will solve more tomorrow.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Have you read ANYTHING I've posted?

Lopen was speculating on which scum would kill Red. Since I was poisoned, which is like half killing, I wanted to ponder the same. Open question to the room, if you already said your theory chill the frig out and let other people speculate too

Ulti had a huge hero worship complex over red last game so I could see him n1 killing red too

I definitely don't think you can attribute it to scare alone. I don't think scare would pilot the scumteam that hard given how little he plays here lately

Enchantress posted...

Lopen was speculating on which scum would kill Red. Since I was poisoned, which is like half killing, I wanted to ponder the same. Open question to the room, if you already said your theory chill the frig out and let other people speculate too

Meaningless question tbh you'd always be killed by any scum team as an active player who can solve the game

Slander and calumny

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So Wallz didn't want to talk to Lopen beacuse he already thought Lopen was scum? Lopen tried to pull a Gambit on Wallz and wallz said nah I'm good but how does your stuff work.

So wallz power hunting?

I thought Lopen was faking interest in my ideas on whos scum and I still believe he was faking interest. Lopens claims about his role were absolutely more interesting. I wanted to see if I could poke holes in his claim.

Lopen posted...

Note BCT believed my ability so I think Wallz probably would have if he wasn't informed about

I think BCT should review the early part of the chat. I said I had a guilty scan on Chris and his reaction was "how are you gonna trap him so he can't claim miller" or something it was so weird

I definitely did find myself thinking aloud here. I said when youre going to claim the scan on him it would be nice, if possible, to remove any possibility of worming out of it. Then I remembered if anyone tried claiming miller after d1 that had a guilty scan claim against them, theyd be toast anyways.

On that note you were possibly also doc saved so you may survive yet so keep your head up there may be many days of misery for you yet

wallmasterz posted...

I thought Lopen was faking interest in my ideas on whos scum and I still believe he was faking interest

Not faked. Would legitimately like to hear any theory you have that isn't Lopen is scum gf neighborizer so I'd be less sure you're scum

3. UltimaterializerX - starting to lean scum based on him doing nothing since his meteor fake claim
4. Obellisk - leaning town because he was assertive + sassy
7. Wallmasterz - town af
15. Mzero - definitely lean town

I dont have any theories that explain/ accompany a full fledged poe. Its only the start of d2!

wallmasterz posted...

I wanted to see if I could poke holes in his claim.

Also

Let BCT note he was very passive and content to let me not elaborate on things. I actually gave him more detail than he asked for.

##Vote: Wallz

I am for resolving this today though in any case.

Wallz Ulti FD Sbell is my current working theory.

wallmasterz posted...

I definitely did find myself thinking aloud here. I said when youre going to claim the scan on him it would be nice, if possible, to remove any possibility of worming out of it.

This is an interesting reaction for someone to have when they are 95% sure the guy that is claiming a scan is scum btw

wallz/Lopen feels pretty town/town to me tbh

question for everyone: If you had a day scan right now who would you scan asking for a friend

MZero posted...

question for everyone: If you had a day scan right now who would you scan asking for a friend

Kirby, to confirm my read was accurate

Sbell

If he's scum his scummates are propping up his town equity so he's never gf

Wallz could have been fishing for mechanics to confirm bluff if Chris is GF btw-- so Chris isn't 100% town if wallz is scum

In fact I could actually see Chris as scum and wallz aggroing me to prevent me from following through with gambiting there

Enchantress posted...

Shortly after the day ended, I was told I was not feeling well. My assumption is I was day-poisoned, but I can't rule out that IGCD, who lives an hour away, saw my improv show and thought, wow, Lea is dying, a decreipt husk of a corpse, I wonder if she is aware, I should tell her.

You'll be fine. If it happens again, though, you'll be in danger, but my intent was for Lopen to be the recipient, not you. I just had a bad feeling about Death's lynch at the last minute and thought a pivot to BCT was plausible, based on the arguments you had presented at the time.

I'm being cryptic, but I don't know how much I can talk about my role without breaking the rules. But hopefully y'all have an idea of how my role works based on what I've been saying so far.

Regardless, you're not poisoned. Still, you weren't my intended target, so I'll have to once again be careful with my vote today.

Personally, I think we should resolve one of Wallz or Lopen. There seems to be some confidence that one or the other isn't town. On one hand, Wallz has been weirdly focused on Lopen since D1. On the other hand, it's strange that Lopen hadn't brought up the neighbor chat at all despite being suspicious of Wallz.

I think I side with Lopen being the likelier scum of those two.

MZero posted...

question for everyone: If you had a day scan right now who would you scan asking for a friend

Someone who seems like they're trying to avoid getting a scan.

I'd say Lea or FD. Someone who nobody has a solid read on right now.

MZero posted...

question for everyone: If you had a day scan right now who would you scan asking for a friend

tbh, ask yourself "Who would kill Red N1 despite Red not doing anything?" and scan that person. That feels like a Chris kill, and FD's name got thrown out as someone who would do it, too.

I don't know about SBell. He was pretty active D1 and I know for a while there he was less engaged because he kept rolling scum. Has that changed?

Kirby321 posted...

On the other hand, it's strange that Lopen hadn't brought up the neighbor chat at all despite being suspicious of Wallz.

I didn't because BCT was being wink wink about it and I was still on the fence about what to do with Chris so I wanted to see where it was going

Lopen posted...

I didn't because BCT was being wink wink about it and I was still on the fence about what to do with Chris so I wanted to see where it was going

This whole thing feels like a town that refuses to communicate with itself, and I've contributed to that.

I am sorry.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

This whole thing feels like a town that refuses to communicate with itself, and I've contributed to that.

I am sorry.

I think we got good data nothing to be sorry about tbh

People should be skeptical about the guy who immediately thought gf neighborizer come on

I mean, Wallz is clearly tunneling, much to his own detriment. Problem is, I don't know if that's scum Wallz trying to emulate his town bravado or if it's another dime a dozen townie being stubborn.

Kirby321 posted...

You'll be fine. If it happens again, though, you'll be in danger, but my intent was for Lopen to be the recipient, not you. I just had a bad feeling about Death's lynch at the last minute and thought a pivot to BCT was plausible, based on the arguments you had presented at the time.

I'm being cryptic, but I don't know how much I can talk about my role without breaking the rules. But hopefully y'all have an idea of how my role works based on what I've been saying so far.

Regardless, you're not poisoned. Still, you weren't my intended target, so I'll have to once again be careful with my vote today.

Ok so Kirby just claimed scum killing role here. Could have easily jumped back to mzero. Calculated move to poison Lea.

Support lynch of Kirby today

Kirby321 posted...

My vote was never on Death to begin with

Made this post with 15s left in day

Moved vote to BCT with 1m12s

BCT had 2 votes to Death's 5

Ok

Kirby321 posted...

Ok

0 chance BCT would be lynched with that little time and you chose not to move back at the buzzer

You're lying right to our faces here

Based upon his admission of halfway poisoning someone I'm going to guess kirby is the Radio Demon who seems to have a bunch of nefarious powers.

The fact that he's admitting it makes me feel better about him than I have so far, but a two step killing role is still a killing role.

A 2 step killing role that tried to poison Lea

This is my only power. And once again, Lea is not poisoned.

Even if I did poison her, why the fuck would I openly claim it? Use your brain a little

Go back to Day 1 and tell me that my posts telegraphing what would happen as soon as the day ended were done with scum intent

Bct is town ok

I think I have a pretty good idea how Kirby's role works now. I did consider that possibility. Points for admitting it and not just assassinating me I think. Although it is very true that swapping to BCT when he did didn't actually accomplish anything so I don't love that tact. I guess now I'll live forever, oh no

Enchantress posted...

I think I have a pretty good idea how Kirby's role works now. I did consider that possibility. Points for admitting it and not just assassinating me I think. Although it is very true that swapping to BCT when he did didn't actually accomplish anything so I don't love that tact. I guess now I'll live forever, oh no

What?

Sultan if Lopen went from your biggest scum read to your biggest town read, whos your biggest scum read now?

I'm extremely hung over and reading up why happened last night and jeebus, that is some convoluted shit to try and grasp while barely being able to open my eyes.

I don't have any strong opinions on lopen/wallz alignment, although i do find it funny wallz is yet again in a neighbor chat and lopens guilty Chris scan stuff as a mechanic of gleaming info from wallz or trying to eat a kill makes sense from a town standpoint.

I think chalking bct off as town for now is ok for most working theories based on his card game with Scsre, but I do note that scares action could have targeted one of his own (at least we believe?)

I need to go eat food, I'll try to be active for a little bit.

wallmasterz posted...

Sultan if Lopen went from your biggest scum read to your biggest town read, whos your biggest scum read now?

Well tbh probably you or Kirby

What did Kirby do to Lea?

Kirby ended the day on the same lynch as me, and I received a message I now wasn't feeling well. If he does it again I'll die, otherwise he says I'll be fine. His original plan D1 was to make a lot of people sick so he had kill options. He originally was going to stay on Mzero to tag Lopen, with his guaranteed frozen vote.

Points in his favor include coming clean, playing D1 from that perspective, and Scare having infinite extra scum kills if he wasn't a poker scrub

so Kirby is sorta like a slow burn Vig.

Kibys ability doesn't seen pro town but I am hung up on why he'd claim it as scum