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I remember seeing this in the news a few days ago and the guy claimed that he was quoting the current mayor, which is why he said it needed to be done. But for some reason thats not in the article. I still call BS because if you were actually using that to attack another politician, then the video would show you say something like well the Mayor said and everyone else present in the room wouldnt just be blaming you for it. Like it would be beyond obvious that you were quoting someone else.

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Goals

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Somebody get that man a pizza, he already paid for it

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Sounds more Spanish then either of those imo

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It swallowed my Far From Home disc and I had to look up how to get it out :/

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Field hockey

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Shablagoo posted...

Wait were the The Last of Us Part II SPOILERS WLF oppressors?

I must have missed that in the game or am not remembering.

@Shablagoo

Yes, but you mightve missed that. If you collect more of the paper notes and shit and find more of their signs posted around town you can clearly see the WLF kicked out FEDRA and replaced them on their own rules. They removed people from their homes, added curfews, created their own sets of oppressive laws etc etc. Ellie at one point literally says that Seattle replaced one group of tyrants with another, or something to that effect.

With FEDRA and the military now gone, the WLF were the city's primary faction, containing and ruling over thousands of survivors across Seattle. However, they soon broke their promise of liberation, instead pushing for everyone in the city to join the group as members of their militia and to swear their loyalty to the group.[14][15]Further, they experienced problems transporting supplies across the various districts in the city, a problem caused by the mass hordes of Infected on supply routes that the military failed to solve.[4] To fix the problem, Isaac ordered the WLF's soldiers to forcefully move Seattle's civilians from their homes to SoundView Stadium to contain everyone and centralize the supply distribution. Many civilians resisted, but the WLF expressed no mercy, instead forcefully expelling dissidents from the suburbs and stealing their supplies.[16][17] The WLF's dictatorial actions caused several residents to conclude that they were worse rulers than FEDRA.[16][18][19]
The WLF escalated their expulsion policy to execution, notably killing Sofia Legasov in retaliation for her defacing numerous WLF banners in Hillcrest.[19]

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NullAndVoidFC posted...

We're not talking about the WLF. We're talking about the Fireflies. You use the term terrorists to dismiss them, but they were justified, because FEDRA were oppressive, and the fireflies were never orangized like the WLF - a line Ellie says herself - so we can't judge them as oppressors. Tommy is a former firefly that did some questionable things but managed to become a leader in Jackson, Abbey's father seemed like an honorable man all things considered. If they had made a cure would they have used it to gain power? Probably, it's a tough world, tough choices need to be made, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been for the greater good.

Literally the first thing we see the Fireflies do is orchestrate a bombing at a gatehouse, killing and injuring innocent people. Civilians included. Tommy leaves the Fireflies for a reason. You know the old torture two people to see if you can get them to agree on the truth thing Joel and Tommy do? They learned it because of the Fireflies.

The Fireflies are cruel people, and the main reason Joel and Tommy are the kind of shitty people that they are. The Fireflies are terrorists, period.

And I wasnt claiming the Fireflies are oppressors (they werent yet, but likely wouldve been if given power). I was pointing out that you quoting Fuck FEDRA (a phrase used by the oppressive WLF in order to indoctrinate and recruit for their fascistic cause) is quite amusing and ruins all the effort you made to convince others that you werent trolling. Its so blatantly obvious. You keep throwing out shit like for the greater good to justify murder, terrorism, executions, and oppression. You must be a fun person at parties.

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NullAndVoidFC posted...

"I can't respond to your points so I have to assume you're being disingenuous to satisfy my ego"

Nah, you had me for a minute. It was when you quoted the WLFs fuck FEDRA that ruined it for you. Because no rational person is going to be on the WLFs side, considering they overthrew the oppressor in order to instill their own fascistic regime. That was kinda the whole point.

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NullAndVoidFC posted...

Nope, I said it's unlikely she would make it to 30.

It would actually be hypocrisy.

"Holding certain cities hostage until submission is exactly something the Fireflies would do."

OK bud.

They won't now for sure, but only because of Joel.

Oh right I guess the characters should have realised they were in a thing called the Last of Us.

They were justified. Fuck FEDRA

Yes, he deserved to die.

okay I get it now. trolling lmao


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NullAndVoidFC posted...

So is it hypothetical to say she would be lucky to get to 30 in the Last of Us world? Chances are, a teenage girl isn't seeing 30. That's not hypothetical, it's playing the odds.

No, what Im saying is that youre calling me questioning the Fireflies ability to find a cure, mass produce it, distribute it, and not use it for personal gain, a hypothetical. Yet you turn around and start acting like its a given that Ellie isnt going to make it to 30 without torture and rape. Like do you not see the irony here? Me doubting the Fireflies isnt me shitting out a hypothetical, its me simply being rational, just as you claiming Ellie wont make it to 30. But if mine was hypothetical because its an unknown, then yours is too.

NullAndVoidFC posted...

If your argument is well in a lawless society where hundreds of millions have died of a zombie plague, the people that hold the cure might exploit that for power or gain... well yeah, but it's the lesser of two evils, and if you can't accept that you're basically saying the world is too fucked and everyone might as well just kill themselves because at some point you're going to rub up against the wrong end of a group exploiting their power advantage or the flesh eating zombies.

The world is too fucked. Thats the whole point of the game. Its called the Last of Us, not the Middle of Us or some shit. The entire idea that the Fireflies had was bullshit and 100% illogical and improbable, on top of the fact that they were terrorist and trying to hide the fact that Ellie was going to die from her and from her chaperone.

The Fireflies were never going to be able to actually create, produce, and distribute a cure, much less do so in a remotely appropriate manner. They wanted to sacrifice someone without their consent on a question. Joel did the right thing without question. You cannot trust the organization, you cannot trust the odds, and you cannot trust that humanity wouldve even taken it, not after youve seen and done the things Joel had seen and done.

Joel was a bad person. Thats a fact. Can you trust the Fireflies? No. Thats a fact. Can you trust humanity by this point? Of course not. This game is meant to be the end. The time for stopping the outbreak was 20 years prior.

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NullAndVoidFC posted...

Lol now making up hypothetical reasons why attempting to cure the zombie plague that's destroyed the world is actually a bad thing! Maybe it wouldn't have worked but killing some girl, who is only remarkable for her bite, in attempt to find out is worth it. Arguably better than leaving her in a world where she would be lucky to get to 30 unraped and tortured to death.

NullandVoid: lmao making up hypothetical situations

Also NullandVoid: killing her is better than letting her live in a world where she would be lucky to get to 30 unraped and tortured to death

Troll better, bro. The least you could do is keep a consistent message.

Darmik posted...

Even if the Fireflies had a guaranteed cure from sacrificing Ellie Joel would do the same thing.

You mean to tell me that someone whos seen the worst sides of humanity doesnt trust terrorists with distributing the cure?????? Oh no!!!!


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Garioshi posted...

Even if they did somehow develop a vaccine (against fungal infections, the first one in human history), they'd also definitely use it as leverage to gain power and leave the parts of the country that don't submit to them to die. Even worse, they might start deploying spores as weapons against said parts of the country.

100%

Holding certain cities hostage until submission is exactly something the Fireflies would do.


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It took almost a year to develop a COVID-19 vaccine (in the most idealest of environments, mind you) and here we are months after it became available to everyone, yet the literal Government is struggling to be able to convince the population that it needs to get vaccinated in order for us to end this pandemic.

Somehow there are people ITT that think that a random group of literal terrorists will be capable of creating a vaccine in a random dilapidated hospital with limited resources, 20 years after civilization has fallen, and somehow be able to distribute it in a meaningful manner and convince the very people that witnessed them commit mass atrocities that its safe to use.

Even IF killing Ellie could yield the results that they wanted to create the vaccine (which the whole goddamn point of the ending is that we dont know) it wouldve been literally impossible to push the cure around enough to end the outbreak. Period. Just look outside the door IRL and see how people feel about a mysterious cure made by professionals, and imagine what people would feel like decades after the fall of civilization.

Lastly the complete irony of people saying that Joel was hardly a decent man as a defense to his murder quite literally refuse to acknowledge that the people Joel killed were also quite literally terrorists. Pretty much every single one. Especially the Fireflies.

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Xethuminra posted...

I dont care about psychoanalyzing the entire MCU as if it were coherent. I like looking for Easter Eggs

Thats fair, the MCU isnt entirely coherent. Caps personality is pretty consistent and easy to follow though. Hes never been much of a thinking 12 steps ahead kind of guy. He is however, a lets not bully or embarrass unnecessarily kind of guy, hence why he pretended he couldnt lift the hammer.

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Xethuminra posted...

Im glad you got a laugh about it.

That was the intention.

Let me not go to wiki or pick my brain for every interaction Captain America had with the Avengers spanning the entire MCU.

Lmao. Okay dude. Out of curiosity, do you use the psychoanalyze fictional characters excuse whenever you get called out for pretending to you know what youre talking about? Or is that reserved as a backup to its a joke?


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Xethuminra posted...

No, i just really dont care.

I dont psychoanalyze gear-shifted movie characters.

Maybe I was wrong and Captain America is a gullible trusting guy who lets complete monsters watch his back without a second thought or any attempt to distance himself. No problem, bro.

like

Just in case you didnt realize I was making a joke about Endgame & deploying the Its tactical joke, then here you go........
.... I was making a joke about Endgame & deploying the the Its tactical. joke.

I dont give a shit about your joke about Endgame, I wasnt even responding to that. Im responding to the next thing you said, that Steve was using it as a tactical edge against Thor. Thats absolutely laughable. Steve knows theres literally nothing he can do against Thor. Steve also trusts Thor with his life. End of conversation.

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Xethuminra posted...

K

lmao imagine being so butthurt at being incorrect that thats how you respond

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Xethuminra posted...

On that note, the Avengers was & is depicted as a group of people who share little common ground in terms of ideology & Cap pretty much abandons them at one point. Hulk, Iron Man, Thor are not people Steve should trust with his life right off the bat. So? Sure by Civil War he does, and it falls apart anyway, and he is not slow to go AWOL rogue. In AOU? I sincerely doubt it. I think theres numerous scenes where Captain America calls into question the allegiance & sanity of every original Avenger except Black Widow who I guess he was supposed to identify with?

Thats what makes it so powerful whenever he makes a call to arms for the Avengers, despite everything they had been through.

I dont trust you. And I shouldnt. But were all in this together. ~ thats Captain America

without him, the team falls apart. Why do you think that is? They still lament his passing.

Ummm no. Youre definitely wrong on that one.

Watch Avengers again. Steve is clearly still in his WW2 soldier mindset. In Captain America: The First Avenger, every person he meets, from Peggy, to the Colonel, to Howard Stark, are all allies looking to do one thing: defeat the Nazis. He then rescues a ragtag group of soldiers and immediately entrusts them to join his team in his fight against Hydra. Steve never had a reason to doubt anybodys allegiance.

In Avengers, you see a continuation of that. He meets Fury and just accepts a mission from him. He meets Bruce and knowing full well of what the Hulk is capable of, he still welcomes him to the team and shows little to no fear around him. He meets Natasha and thinks shes just a SHIELD agent, without realizing how much of a liar she is. He meets Stark and he treats him with the respect he gave his father until part way through the movie he realizes how much of an asshole he is. He meets Thor, whos existence directly challenges Steves religion, and trusts him. He meets Clint, a man who was fighting for Loki 10 minutes prior, and asks if he has a suit to wear in the upcoming battle.

Steve had little issue trusting people. Do you know when he starts to have issues? Iron Man convinces him. When Iron Man starts hacking into SHIELD, Steve sees that as a problem. But Tony convinces him that theres something wrong, so Steve investigates and finds that SHIELD is studying and re-creating Hydra weapons. These are the breadcrumbs that lead to Steve distrusting Fury, and once he has more experience with Widow, he begins to distrust her as well.

Your understanding that Steve questions the allegiance and sanity of every Avenger except for Widow is so absolutely asinine that its hard to believe were talking about the same movies. Widow is literally the first Avenger that Steve begins to genuinely distrust, and the whole point of Black Widows role in Captain America: The Winter Soldier is to grow Nat as a character. They show that she is an untrustworthy teammate whos sole allegiance is a mission youre not even aware exists and eventually show her turn into a true friend and ally with motivations no longer obfuscated. Steve and Nats relationship does not come from them identifying with one another initially, it takes trauma and common experience through the events of Cap 2 to lead them to realize that they can be open with one another.

On top of that, we can even talk about STIKE Team. Steve routinely ran missions with them and literally trusted them with his life. They were his team, yet they were ultimately Hydra. Dont you think if Steve was constantly taking precautions around the people that he met, that he wouldve had a better plan than to fight them all in an elevator? He literally didnt know until seconds before the attack, when he noticed themselves positioning themselves for attack.

Lastly the biggest proof that Steves fault was being too trusting, is that in Civil War he literally is more than willing to officially break off with the Avengers when theyre sent to arrest his former friend. Steve has no reason to know that Bucky wasnt involved in blowing up the UN. Steve knows that Bucky was tortured for decades and that his friend is barely in there, but he trusts that his friend couldnt have done it. He trusts that he can still bring his friend out of Hydras spell. He trusts it enough to come into direct conflict with some of his more recent best friends.

Steves distrust was for large organizations run by people with agendas that are unknown. Steve trusted his friends time and again, often despite them letting him down. Steve also trusted that the people he was introduced to (random other soldiers that he teamed with and befriended in WW2, or the people he met with SHIELD) come from a good place of heart, until proven otherwise.

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Xethuminra posted...

The edge against Thor

you dont think Cap trusted any of them do you?
Look what happened in Civil War

Steve isnt Batman. Steve trusted everybody. Thats literally the point of TWS. He was under culture shock the more time he spent around Fury and Widow, after realizing how much they lied to him through his first few years knowing them. By Civil War, Steves only major distrust was in Government, politicians, etc. He literally says the safest hands are still our own when asked to sign the Accords so that theres a governing body in charge of punishing super heroes. Steve trusted the Avengers.

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I would do the right thing and donate 99% of that to charity. St Jude or something idk

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LinkDaLunatic posted...

"C'mon, Michael, it's game time. Slip on your Hanes, lace up your Nikes, take your Wheaties and your Gatorade, and we'll grab a Big Mac on the way to the ballpark."

this is an actual line from the movie

I dont understand how this shit can bother people. Its clearly a joke meant to play off of Michael Jordans commercials. Thats it.

Its like people see references to real life companies and go OMG MARKETING THIS IS HORRIBLE like dude wtf do you want them to just make up off brand generic bullshit instead? It literally doesnt hurt anybody to make references to real world things but people always lose their minds at the idea that a character in a movie walks by a Malboro billboard or whatever, and in the quoted example, its meant to play off of specific things done by Jordan IRL, just like how the movie references his time at NC, the Bulls, his baseball career, etc etc.

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Omfg people are really trying to make her seem like the bad person here? Like, did you even read what happened?

Hosting the show is in her contract, she points out the ESPN has had lazy history with their diversity hirings and has been under pressure to fix that, so they breach her contract in order to cover their own skin.

This isnt a story about a white woman complaining that shes getting replaced by a black woman. This is a woman complaining that her fake as fuck employer is screwing her over in order to improve their public image.

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Its curious to say the least

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Four Horsemen

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ApherosyLove posted...

I hate the idea of nerds making fun of people who like sports, as if gaming and it's associated culture isn't as equally stupid.
Usually people who say "sportsball" think they're better than other people, but, honestly, we're all cringe.

100% and if anything, enjoying seeing incredibly fit people accomplish impressive physical feats is far more natural and respectable than the kind of people who sit in their bedroom all day, complaining on an internet forum about how a computer generated characters ass has been edited out of a remaster of a decade old game.

Not to mention how the people who usually try to demean sports by calling them sports are the people who have felt slighted for not being remotely coordinated in school and sucking at PE/sports.

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Nah F+WS was the best. It nailed the tone and personal nature of everything that made Cap 2 and 3 genuinely good movies.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

cap gets stronger throughout the MCU and proves himself by the end. early on he was a jobber and worse than hawkeye

okay dont be ridiculous. Even the best Hawkeye (Ronin) doesnt do a fraction of what Cap does in Captain America: The First Avenger.

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h23456bca posted...

As long as I dont ride like a maniac though, I should be alright.

Thats the scariest part about riding a motorcycle though. You dont have to be the one who drives like a maniac to be the one that suffers from it. Just the other day someone I work with was stopped at a traffic light and got hit by someone from behind, almost ended up getting his leg amputated at the hospital. A few years prior a similar thing happened to someone else that I used to work with too, and that guy couldnt walk for months.

Im sure riding is fun but goddamn its nuts to me that people are fine relying on others around them to drive remotely carefully, and that being literally the difference between life and death on any day.

Granted driving a car isnt inherently safe either but you get the point.

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Yeah Cap was shafted as hell in that one. Joss Whedon is a dumbass and Avengers (2012) is an awful movie that gets circled jerked for literally no reason.

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wackyteen posted...

The funny thing though

These billboards are so large and generate so much heat that they require cooling systems that are most likely way more demanding than your bog standard AC unit

Im pretty sure thats literally the point of the tweet. The person used the word blazing for a reason.

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Absolutely. Treason should always be punished in that way. I dont care if youre a left winger or right winger. Seeking to overturn our election through violence should be punished to the highest degree.

If we have people being executed around the country for personal crimes, crimes against the nation itself shouldnt be an exception. Hell, didnt Trump try to bring back the federal death penalty for literally this reason? It would be poetic that his worshipers be on the receiving end lmao.

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Absolutely not. Hes a liberal, through and through, just not remotely progressive (at least by comparison to anybody who refers to themselves in that way). Conservatives would never actually identify with 90% of his positions. Hes just anti shit like identity politics, canceling, etc etc. So in other words he could be a sensible human being, if it werent for his utter disdain for ever being viewed as anything other than morally superior. Hes conceited beyond belief and a total asshole.

Come on, a man who made a whole movie about the absurdities of religion cannot ever be considered conservative, especially in America.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I'm saying it was a coincidence that Killian claimed to be the mandarin so all that stuff still happened but while it was happening, there was a real "mandarin" on the other side of the world not liking that someone was using his name.

The in-universe explanation is a coincidence, sure. That doesnt change the behind the scenes decision to revisit the character. Kevin Feige literally addressed it recently when he spoke about his regret with casting a white woman as the Ancient One, when he couldve used an asian actor without playing on racist tropes. Hes happy to get a re-do with the Mandarin.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

It's not really retconned. The mandarin from IM3 is just fake / unlucky coincidence kinda like when Mysterio said they were in universe 616.

The Mysterio thing was nothing more than a easter egg. The end of Iron Man 3 is literally Aldrich Killian claiming that HE was the Mandarin. There being an actual Mandarin in China who is a criminal overlord is literally by definition a retcon. Theyre backtracking on a mistake that they made 8 years ago.

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Zikten posted...

Why do you think Shang Chi is boring but Iron Fist is cool? I never watched Iron Fist but I heard the fights sucked. This has Hollywood level special effects. It's got mythical beings in it. It looks cooler.

The show was bad, but Id take a hollywood adaptation of Iron Fist over this any day. As far as I know Shang doesnt really have powers, whereas Iron Fist can level rooms and shit with his glowy punch. Not to mention he literally has to fight a dragon to earn the fist. Plus he wears a cool bandana. So yeah, Id say Iron Fist is cooler than Shang Chi.

CommonStar posted...

Wait, so his dad is The Mandarin?

In this movie, yes. Theyre officially retconning the plot twist from Iron Man 3 (it was retconned a while ago, but theyre revisiting it).

Blue_Popo posted...

I feel like MCU has crossed those out of canon

Not really. The Netflix shows referenced the movies but the movies have yet to counter anything from the shows and likely never will until we get a Disney+ or theatrical Daredevil, Luke Cage, or Punisher (which I predict would be the first Netflix heroes brought back). So for now theyre either still canon or never were, but we dont have a definitive answer.

The best we have to go by is actors playing different roles in the movies vs the shows but honestly that doesnt mean much, considering theyve already done that a few times between just the movies alone.

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NeonOctopus posted...

Name?

Does she do nudes!?

she does in fact have a *insert name of website*

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NGL thats pretty smart

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because she was an unarmed mostly peaceful tourist murdered in cold blood by an ANTIFA BLM FBI agent who was lying in wait

obviously

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WalkingLobsters posted...

star

da fuck?

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spikethedevil posted...

This @Mackorov How did you not know this?

Its easy to forget seeing as the game launched two months before the PS4 and X1 were released.

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Ricemills posted...

bats love condiments

Came to say this, but instead Ill go with:

Bats really do prey on Kites.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

It has a 60 fps mode? I thought Insomniac Games didn't do 60fps anymore.

Spider-man remastered and Miles Morales both have 60 fps modes

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What makes her take even stupider is that it looks like shes using the phrase cultural appropriation essentially in regards to the the BTS fandom itself being a culture. Which is ironic, because if anything, being an American fan of BTS is more cultural appropriation than buying their dipping sauce for your nuggets without being a fan of the band.

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Post 44 is stupid as fuck. The whole point of the discussion is about the spending methods well adjusted adults. Post 43 is a critique of post 32s idiotic assertion that a well adjusted adult needs to spend cash at casinos and bars, and that those that dont, dont have social lives.

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Post 35 is stupid as fuck. Just because someone prefers drinking at home instead of wasting tons of money to have someone mix drinks for you or pour you a beer doesnt mean they dont have friends lmfao

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darkprince45 posted...

things we use cash for:

tipping servers at casinos/bars

Save money by not going to those places, next

flea market

Dont give a shit about that, next

offerup

Dont even know what this is, next

known friends that do side work

apple pay or zelle takes 10 seconds and goes right into their account, next

landscaper

we do our own work, next

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Nemu posted...

I hate cash and always make sure to spend it as quickly as possible if it's not an amount worth depositing. It's simply cumbersome and annoying, and I have not ran into a single situation in the last decade in which I'd have been better off with than without.

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