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Hate that visual

You know you made it when the HS football field doesnt have a track around it

Rharyx211 posted...

A lot of that is based on piecing together background information and such, not from any offical source, but it looks correct-ish to me at glance, even if it does make phase 4 look kinda disorganized.

Maybe D+ just doesn't really care since almost everything in phase 4 is standalone anyway and can mostly be watched in whatever order? (Or maybe the offical timeline Marvel has is wrong; they've been losing track since at least Civil War/Homecoming).

I think some of the projects are given leeway/made ambiguous on purpose. The showrunner of Hawkeye said that he initially wanted it to take place 2 years after endgame and changed his mind later on, which to me seems like an odd detail that Feige was letting him control (could result in stuff like the Homecoming fiasco).

Rharyx211 posted...

Huh. According to the wiki, this is the timeline of phase 4:

Oct 2023 = Endgame
Nov 2023 = WandaVision / Eternals
Mar 2024 = Shang-Chi
Apr 2024 = Falcon and the Winter Soldier
May 2024 = Love and Thunder
Jun 2024 = Far From Home
Nov 2024 = No Way Home -> Multiverse of Madness
Dec 2024 = Hawkeye
Mar 2025 = Moon Knight
Jun 2025 = Ms Marvel

That's prob why no one mentions the Celestial popping out of the ocean. That shit is old news lol.

Interesting, the Disney+ listing of things in timeline order doesnt match that. My best guess is that Marvel probably hasnt nailed it down and we wont know until they release an official image like they did in the past.

D+ has She-Hulk taking place way after Shang-Chi but as far as I could tell Abominations subplot coincides with Shang Chi.

Rharyx211 posted...

Wait, what?

Is there a timeline of Phase 4 that recently came out I'm not aware of?

Im going off of what they said when things were released. NWH picks up right where FFH left off (2023) and Hawkeye is said to take place in winter 2024. You also know this via the climax of NWH taking place at the Statue of Liberty which at the moment is undergoing construction to turn it into a statue of Cap, and in Hawkeye the Statue of Liberty Cap version is referenced as open to the public.

ToadallyAwesome posted...

Not to mention they had a huge world altering event but nothing else has mentioned a huge fucking statue in the ocean now?

This argument makes no sense to me. In the first few phases when things were mostly released chronologically, sure. However, all of Phase 4 takes place at different points post Endgame. Some immediately afterwards, some a year later, some two years later, and there is little consistency in the order. For example Hawkeye and No Way Home dropped the same year IRL and Hawkeye still takes place an entire year after NWH. She-Hulk takes place around when Shang Chi does, but was released after Ms Marvel which takes place over a year after Endgame.

I dont remember if Eternals explicitly states when it takes place, but it could very well be after a lot of things that weve seen in Phase 4, and even then, its not like they have to acknowledge every little thing that happens in every other story. Ms Marvels show has nothing to do with crime in NY, so they dont need to talk about shootout at Rockefeller Center from Hawkeye. A giant hand in the water isnt something that comes up naturally in conversation for most of the characters Phase 4 has focused on, save for maybe someone like Dr Strange, which again, might take place before Eternals.

IMO best to worst

Back Widow
No Way Home
Multiverse of Madness
Love and Thunder
Eternals
Shang Chi

Bad CGI aside, BW is probably the best all around imo. No Way Home is great but almost all of the best aspects are pure fan service and nostalgia bait. Liz Olsen killed it in MoM. Love and Thunder wasnt bad but it was incredibly disappointing. I didnt expect much from Eternals but it was still barely whelming. I thought Shang Chi was boring as shit, hated the choreography (the floatiness is incredibly out of place given the countless hand-to-hand combat experts weve seen in the MCU, none of which have nonsensical gravity defying prowess), and his friend character is beyond annoying and easily top 3 for my most hated MCU character.

Damn_Underscore posted...

It's not like Rockstar has given any reason to trust them as a publisher or developer recently

GTA remasters aside, their last three new games have been critically acclaimed and almost universally praised for their presentation and graphics. Theres literally no reason at all to expect GTA6 to not be a continuation of that trend. The biggest issue with Rockstar is their over reliance on milking GTAO for borderline a decade, but that has nothing to do with how GTAV or RDR2 looked, so pretending GTA6 is going to look like GTAO while watching footage that is years old and being played on a devkit for a last gen console is incredibly ignorant.

I downloaded twitter and followed one of those PS5 restock accounts. One night the dude absolutely nailed his prediction about PS5s being available at Target the next morning. I woke up at like 5am, and grabbed one and selected to pick it up in store. Then i unfollowed that guy and deleted twitter from my phone.

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Cole has sucked for a long time and nothing will change that.

Hes been a lot better since McAfee showed up

I mean, he says he left Smackdown, not WWE

GallisOTK posted...

Is he still in charge of creative?

No

That dont seem right

creativerealms posted...

Lol. No they fired her. Companies are allowed to fire people.

Did Musk cancel those space X employees that spoke out against him?

Bad example because yes he did.

She wasnt fired. Disney said she fulfilled her contract and that they didnt have plans to bring her back. It was evident when they removed her from posters of the Mandalorian before her most controversial comments.

Pretty decent episode. The Vader scenes went hard but I cannot emphasize enough how stupid and borderline out of character it was for Vader and the Grand Inquisitor to not finish the job. They literally show Vader killing children in cold blood in this episode and dont want him to execute someone who committed treason? Like wtf lmao

TC is the type of person who thinks every single detail is a spoiler. Newsflash buddy, Jane was revealed to be getting Lady Thor powers the literal day they announced the movie, and Bale was confirmed to be an alien villain not too far on after. None of that is a spoiler. The spoilers are HOW these things happen. And like others have already pointed out, Disney has put fake shit in trailers for years now, and did a fantastic job hiding the biggest surprises in Endgame and MoM. And no, I dont consider the cameos in MoM to be surprises because they were relatively central to marketing. Even then, a couple were kept as a surprise anyway.

DarthAragorn posted...

There were rumors of Ahsoka pretty early on as soon as it came out she was likely to appear in The Mandalorian. But yeah. The rest were all pretty under wraps.

Thats fair

Ill wait for something more official. BoBF, Skeleton Crew, Ahsoka, Lando, are all live action series that Disney managed to start working on without a leak ahead of time. Not to mention Mando managed to introduce Grogu, and feature Boba Fett and Luke without those getting leaked either. Why would this of all things get leaked?

PR over here

MrWingnut posted...

Trying to think of a time when a mass shooter was black. Drawing a blank here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Trumble posted...

Yeah, that doesn't seem very suitable for children. And to be very fucking clear on this, a heterosexual equivalent of it would not be suitable for children either. Though I'm going to guess the people protesting it wouldn't agree with the second sentence here... >_>

I think youre completely wrong on that last bit. Did you not see how much they lost their shit at the SB featuring incredibly sexual dancing from J-Lo and Shakira during the Half time show three years ago???

This happens all the time from vocal crowds that dont understand how impeachment works. People were calling for Trump to be impeached before he ever did anything. Little did they know eventually hed get impeached twice for actually doing shit and hell still get away with it.

DarthAragorn posted...

This show is 5 years before Rogue One I think they said today.

Got it, so id say most of the Rebels crew arent on the list since that show starts a year later, I believe

DarthAragorn posted...

The Rebels crew doesn't really fit from what I remember. They weren't really part of the Rebel Alliance til season 2 or maybe even 3, which would be after this show. At least the first season.

Hera was working for them the whole time in the show, as far as I can tell, and the rest of the crew joined in at the very beginning of the 2nd season. I have no idea when this show takes place primarily (given that we see multiple eras in the teaser), but if it sticks to 3-4 BBY, the Rebels crew could be there, and I could definitely see it as a bridge to introduce newer fans to potential characters in the Ahsoka series.

I enjoyed it, I never got tired of taking over territories, and the actual story cutscenes and character interviews are incredibly well written.

SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

who's going be the omg surprise cameo character in this one

Random list of characters that fit, not all of them being omg level,

Leia Organa
Bail Organa
Ahsoka
Kanan
Hera
Ezra Bridger
Captain Rex
Cal Kestis
Cara Dune
Saw Guerrera
Enfys Nest
Moff Gideon
Grand Moff Tarkin
Admiral Thrawne
Boba Fett
Bossk
Dengar

Those are from the primary era, but seeing as there are clones in the trailer, and Andor having fought for the Separatist Alliance as a child, theoretically most Jedi pre order 66 could have a minor cameo.

FortuneCookie posted...

Wait, what? Another one? Didn't they just make one?

Its been like 4 years

Yeah, no, the original was bad, but this is just cringe

The part where the door closes in front of her in the tunnels and everyone just stops running and turns around was such a silly horror trope that it caused a bunch of people in our audience to yell various versions of keep fn running

Rharyx211 posted...

I heard there was going to be more cameos, but when they leaked, they cut some of the minor ones.

Which made me start thinking... There was an empty chair in the Illuminati room, and when they squaded up to fight Wanda, the shot was framed as if somebody was missing to the right of Maria.

Do you guys think there actually was supposed to be a Tony Stark or someone else there as well, but they were cut?

Could very well be the case. I thought the robots were supposed to be Ultron bots so it wouldve made sense to expect a Tony Stark to be in the Illuminati. I also expected they would have some sort of Black Panther on the team too.

chrono625 posted...

strange addresses his Mordo in the movie stating hes been a thorn in his side since the first movie, implying theyve had interactions since then.

Rharyx211 posted...

Like they said, she has the Darkhold now. The post-credit scene of WandaVision already showed her looking pretty possessed and evil, and this movie's showing just how far the book's corrupted her since then.

Strange mentioned to America that Mordo's been trying to kill him since the first movie. Since Mordo never mentioned that being his intention when he parted ways with Strange at the end of the first movie (it was only a goal he came up with later), I can only assume Mordo's been trying to kill Strange on-and-off for the past couple years, off screen.

Dang, really feels like a waste.

The name of the movie isnt really fitting at all. The name makes it seem like the movie is about the multiverse itself or that the great threat is this multiversal issue or something but it really isnt. The plot is an earth 1 issue and they just happen to travel to other universes throughout the course of the story. I enjoyed it nonetheless and am glad the cameos were just that.

Mild Post credits spoilers and Dr Strange 1 spoilers:
Im curious about the direction that their story is headed though. The post credits scene seems to imply more Multiversal shenanigans are coming, but Baron Mordos arc from the first movie has still yet to be addressed. Mordo decided that there were too many sorcerers on Earth 7-8 years ago at this point in the canon. Why hasnt he tried to kill Strange yet?

Really good movie. Probably not in my top 5 though.

Smh yall sleepin on the Iron Man mirror match with Robot Rock playing in the background

I have a PS5 that I game on and a Series S as a paperweight. Half joking, but its still in the box, havent had any reason to use it yet.

I really like it, other than the laugh.

ColonizedMind posted...

My take is that he isn't "The Joker" yet, rather a likely serial killer that fell into a vat of acid as Batman was trying to apprehend him. That's why he's all messed up, has no hair, etc.

No need to theory it, Matt Reeves already explained it. Hes got a degenerative disease and he hasnt become the Joker yet. He believes that Gotham should already have these sorts of personalities but they dont become the villains until theyre inspired to by the Batman.

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-batman-joker-scene-spoilers-barry-keoghan

EffectAndCause posted...

Arent there fully exposed naked nipple titties in your face at the strip club? Why censor the shower?

Pretty sure those are censored in online.

Yeah, it feels like this happens at least twice a year.

DirkDiggles posted...

Is NXT some sort of separate company or something? Everybody knows him as Pete Dunn. Hell, he was on the show two or three weeks ago.

He competed on the main roster a few times as Pete Dunne. Back when he first won the UK title, and later on fought Adam Cole for the NXT Title at a SvS PPV.

I was a kid at the time but my brother worked at a rest stop that sold magazines and would grab the gaming magazines, sneak them into the back, scan each cheat page for games relevant to us, and come home with anywhere from like 5-20 pages of cheats. If it wasnt that, it was gameshark for us.