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Ivynn 07/07/23 12:51:31 AM #51:	All my attacks on Miss No Eyes miss. Is that supposed to happen Edit: oh it's one of those "you're supposed to lose" fights. Those are always annoying. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974677201] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>All my attacks on Miss No Eyes miss. Is that supposed to happen Edit: oh it's one of those "you're supposed to lose" fights. Those are always annoying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 1:04:27 AM #52:	Heh. Quest completion sound is like Skyrim's. Woke up in a tavern/headquarters. I guess this the part where the game opens up and I can do anything. Any side quests in particular I should watch out for? --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974677355] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Heh. Quest completion sound is like Skyrim's.Woke up in a tavern/headquarters. I guess this the part where the game opens up and I can do anything. Any side quests in particular I should watch out for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/07/23 1:07:00 AM #53:	Do the stuff for your idiot son in the basement first. After that you basically have to go to the markets. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974677384] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Do the stuff for your idiot son in the basement first.After that you basically have to go to the markets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 07/07/23 1:34:00 AM #54:	If you have no idea what you're doing, turn difficulty to casual. It's a CRPG where the difficulty lies in how much effort you want to put into optimizing builds and stacking buffs and bonuses. It's not a difficulty where you can just outplay the game, because no amount of skill is going to make you roll higher numbers unless you plan on doing a lot of save scumming. <cite>Hospy posted [p:974677644] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>If you have no idea what you're doing, turn difficulty to casual. It's a CRPG where the difficulty lies in how much effort you want to put into optimizing builds and stacking buffs and bonuses. It's not a difficulty where you can just outplay the game, because no amount of skill is going to make you roll higher numbers unless you plan on doing a lot of save scumming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 1:58:14 AM #55:	I spent way too long trying to figure out what feat I wanted lol. So many damn choices. I beat a historian in a debate using FACTS and LOGIC and got a weapon I will never use. Hospy posted... If you have no idea what you're doing, turn difficulty to casual. It's a CRPG where the difficulty lies in how much effort you want to put into optimizing builds and stacking buffs and bonuses. It's not a difficulty where you can just outplay the game, because no amount of skill is going to make you roll higher numbers unless you plan on doing a lot of save scumming. Well I do enjoy making builds. Normal seems like good enough difficulty though, it hasn't been too challenging yet. I am gonna think more about the kind of build I wanna do and how to optimize it. So focus less on damage dealing spells, more on buffs and bonuses? --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974677876] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>I spent way too long trying to figure out what feat I wanted lol. So many damn choices.I beat a historian in a debate using FACTS and LOGIC and got a weapon I will never use.Hospy posted... </cite><quote>If you have no idea what you're doing, turn difficulty to casual. It's a CRPG where the difficulty lies in how much effort you want to put into optimizing builds and stacking buffs and bonuses. It's not a difficulty where you can just outplay the game, because no amount of skill is going to make you roll higher numbers unless you plan on doing a lot of save scumming.</quote>Well I do enjoy making builds. Normal seems like good enough difficulty though, it hasn't been too challenging yet. I am gonna think more about the kind of build I wanna do and how to optimize it. So focus less on damage dealing spells, more on buffs and bonuses?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/07/23 2:04:42 AM #56:	Think more like Grease. Right about now, Grease is your best friend. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974677940] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Think more like Grease. Right about now, Grease is your best friend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 2:06:16 AM #57:	Ivynn posted... How did I not notice the game had friendly-fire until now. Uggggh can I turn it off? Never like that feature, always made playing spellcasters hard. I don't believe so, no. You are stuck with ToyBox if you want to get rid of friendly fire. Ivynn posted... Heh. Quest completion sound is like Skyrim's. Woke up in a tavern/headquarters. I guess this the part where the game opens up and I can do anything. Any side quests in particular I should watch out for? What do you mean? Are you asking if there are any side quests that you desperately want to do? Or are you talking about ones that give particularly good rewards? Generally speaking you should just do sidequests roughly as they become available, though it can potentially be a bit optimal time-wise to let them "build up" a bit so you spend less in-game time. That said one of the companions, ~~Nenio~~ (extremely minor name spoilers), has a quest that you get basically at the very beginning and then you can't do crap-all until the game is practically over (probably a good 3/4ths of the game down). Similarly most of the quests can be locked off if you don't do them in their particular Act, though there are several (like the already mentioned one) that require being in a different Act to progress. Really it's a case of there not really being any non-companion quests that you desperately want to make sure that you want to do as the rewards tend to not be super insane (some do, but it's definitely not the rule), but you should still make an attempt to do them. And you will have random unseen consequences/missed things unless you religiously live off of a guide. And that's okay. DrizztLink posted... Think more like Grease. Right about now, Grease is your best friend. All hail Grease! \o/ Seriously, it's so busted due to the nature of the CRPG systems. Casters are stupidly OP in WotR, but it's entirely about random goofy nonsense like Grease. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974677949] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>How did I not notice the game had friendly-fire until now. Uggggh can I turn it off? Never like that feature, always made playing spellcasters hard.</quote>I don't believe so, no. You are stuck with ToyBox if you want to get rid of friendly fire.Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Heh. Quest completion sound is like Skyrim's.Woke up in a tavern/headquarters. I guess this the part where the game opens up and I can do anything. Any side quests in particular I should watch out for?</quote>What do you mean? Are you asking if there are any side quests that you desperately want to do? Or are you talking about ones that give particularly good rewards? Generally speaking you should just do sidequests roughly as they become available, though it can potentially be a bit optimal time-wise to let them "build up" a bit so you spend less in-game time. That said one of the companions, Nenio (extremely minor name spoilers), has a quest that you get basically at the very beginning and then you can't do crap-all until the game is practically over (probably a good 3/4ths of the game down). Similarly most of the quests can be locked off if you don't do them in their particular Act, though there are several (like the already mentioned one) that require being in a different Act to progress.Really it's a case of there not really being any non-companion quests that you desperately want to make sure that you want to do as the rewards tend to not be super insane (some do, but it's definitely not the rule), but you should still make an attempt to do them. And you will have random unseen consequences/missed things unless you religiously live off of a guide. And that's okay.DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Think more like Grease.Right about now, Grease is your best friend.</quote>All hail Grease! \o/Seriously, it's so busted due to the nature of the CRPG systems. Casters are stupidly OP in WotR, but it's entirely about random goofy nonsense like Grease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 07/07/23 2:21:11 AM #58:	refmon posted... Is the game good overall? It has very mixed reviews on steam Do you like pen and paper games like D&D, or think that RPGs like Dragon Age or Divinite could be more complicated? Then 100% yes. If not, the answer is not so clear. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:974678079] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite><quote>Is the game good overall? It has very mixed reviews on steam</quote>Do you like pen and paper games like D&D, or think that RPGs like Dragon Age or Divinite could be more complicated?Then 100% yes.If not, the answer is not so clear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 07/07/23 2:30:58 AM #59:	Ivynn posted... Might be a stupid question, but what does the yellow half of the bar mean when using Turn-Based mode? The green half is how many points you can move but you can still move when it's yellow but not attack. Others have already explained most of it, but maybe I shall try to explain it too: There are multiple kind of actions a character is usually allowed to do. 1 Move action 1 Standard Action 1 quick action Unlimited free actions. Example for move actions: Moving Taking a potion Standing up Opening an unlocked door (I think) Example for standard actions: Attacking Casting most spells Using most skills Quick actions: Mostly some feats or class abilities. Camiellia's weapon enchantments for example. Of course, that may be reduced by some debuffs (staggering, acting a surprise round,...) Also: You can convert a standard action into a move action (that's the yellow line warning you) There are also full actions, using both move AND standard action. examples for that: Charge attack Full attack (if you have multiple attacks in a turn, you should have this as soon as you dual wield or hit level 6 with some classes). Some spells (mostly Summoning spells). Also important here is the 5-foot-step. If you don't move, you can do a free 5-foot-step, allowing you do reposition yourself, without triggering attacks of opportunity at all. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:974678157] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Might be a stupid question, but what does the yellow half of the bar mean when using Turn-Based mode? The green half is how many points you can move but you can still move when it's yellow but not attack.</quote>Others have already explained most of it, but maybe I shall try to explain it too:There are multiple kind of actions a character is usually allowed to do.1 Move action1 Standard Action1 quick actionUnlimited free actions.Example for move actions:MovingTaking a potionStanding upOpening an unlocked door (I think)Example for standard actions:AttackingCasting most spellsUsing most skillsQuick actions:Mostly some feats or class abilities.Camiellia's weapon enchantments for example.Of course, that may be reduced by some debuffs (staggering, acting a surprise round,...)Also: You can convert a standard action into a move action (that's the yellow line warning you)There are also full actions, using both move AND standard action. examples for that:Charge attackFull attack (if you have multiple attacks in a turn, you should have this as soon as you dual wield or hit level 6 with some classes).Some spells (mostly Summoning spells).Also important here is the 5-foot-step. If you don't move, you can do a free 5-foot-step, allowing you do reposition yourself, without triggering attacks of opportunity at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 07/07/23 9:40:04 AM #60:	Ivynn posted... yeah, really seeing how simplified past WRPGs I played really were. I thought "I conquered Baldur's Gate, I conquered Divinity Original Sin, I can handle these D&D games now" but nope, Pathfinder smacked me in the face with its big-ass rulebook and humbled me. But I shall not be deterred. Speaking of, you'll see a very sharp contrast between Pathfinder and Baldur's Gate 3, which is running the super simplified D&D 5e tabletop as a core to start from. With D&D 5e you don't have to worry about 100+ archetypes, some of which are simply inferior to other options and many of which simply are NOT worth the tradeoffs, or consider which bonuses stack, which also means not needing 5 buffs stacked on your party before a fight, nor are there multiple layers in which offensive spells can be nullified. One nice benefit to the Pathfinder video games is that they let you customize a lot of aspects of the difficulty. So you can cut off some annoying aspects and implement things that feel fair and challenging. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:974682123] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>yeah, really seeing how simplified past WRPGs I played really were. I thought "I conquered Baldur's Gate, I conquered Divinity Original Sin, I can handle these D&D games now" but nope, Pathfinder smacked me in the face with its big-ass rulebook and humbled me. But I shall not be deterred.</quote>Speaking of, you'll see a very sharp contrast between Pathfinder and Baldur's Gate 3, which is running the super simplified D&D 5e tabletop as a core to start from. With D&D 5e you don't have to worry about 100+ archetypes, some of which are simply inferior to other options and many of which simply are NOT worth the tradeoffs, or consider which bonuses stack, which also means not needing 5 buffs stacked on your party before a fight, nor are there multiple layers in which offensive spells can be nullified. One nice benefit to the Pathfinder video games is that they let you customize a lot of aspects of the difficulty. So you can cut off some annoying aspects and implement things that feel fair and challenging. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 9:47:18 AM #61:	ellis123 posted... What do you mean? Are you asking if there are any side quests that you desperately want to do? Or are you talking about ones that give particularly good rewards? Generally speaking you should just do sidequests roughly as they become available, though it can potentially be a bit optimal time-wise to let them "build up" a bit so you spend less in-game time. That said one of the companions, Nenio (extremely minor name spoilers), has a quest that you get basically at the very beginning and then you can't do crap-all until the game is practically over (probably a good 3/4ths of the game down). Similarly most of the quests can be locked off if you don't do them in their particular Act, though there are several (like the already mentioned one) that require being in a different Act to progress. Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974682244] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>What do you mean? Are you asking if there are any side quests that you desperately want to do? Or are you talking about ones that give particularly good rewards? Generally speaking you should just do sidequests roughly as they become available, though it can potentially be a bit optimal time-wise to let them "build up" a bit so you spend less in-game time. That said one of the companions, Nenio (extremely minor name spoilers), has a quest that you get basically at the very beginning and then you can't do crap-all until the game is practically over (probably a good 3/4ths of the game down). Similarly most of the quests can be locked off if you don't do them in their particular Act, though there are several (like the already mentioned one) that require being in a different Act to progress.</quote>Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Karovorak 07/07/23 12:17:25 PM #63:	Ivynn posted... Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind. It's your first playthrough, and you go in blind. The game gives you a nice selection of paths anyways, so just don't be afraid of your decisions. If you should miss something, whatever. You can always start another playthrough, with another plan, another alignment, another class, another path. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:974685072] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind.</quote>It's your first playthrough, and you go in blind.The game gives you a nice selection of paths anyways, so just don't be afraid of your decisions.If you should miss something, whatever. You can always start another playthrough, with another plan, another alignment, another class, another path.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 12:33:53 PM #64:	Ivynn posted... Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind. I mean, you can kind of go that route if you want. The main issue with going at it from that way is that it's all based entirely on your particular build far more than "this is the OP thing you get." So for example the game has the Ring of Balance which gives you +5 to your AC and gives you a permanent resistance to an enormous amount of the debilitating effects in the game (Fear, Confusion, etc.) and would absolutely be one of the "you must get this item" kind of deals in any other game. Here, however, it comes with the "build tax" in that your character must be True Neutral to actually use it in the first place. In addition it's not like your characters won't be able to essentially get around anything they come across without it just because spellcasters let you do basically everything. Yeah it's a huge deal to get away with those sorts of things (it's part of why Azata is so busted, though for other effects than what the Ring deals with) but you aren't going to really get the "looter RPG" feel that you're talking about. Really you should view the game through the lens of "progress story, become god" rather than anything to do with gear. Mythic paths are busted and let you do some really goofy nonsense. And if you happen to find a piece of gear that explicitly functions really well with what you're doing, then you scored. About the only piece of gear that will always be relevant is Finnean, and that's more because they are a companion in addition to being gear (though you definitely cannot underplay some of the best stats in the game + the ability to change weapon type). --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974685418] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Just any sidequests that are absolute must-dos for like rewards and stuff, yeah. Hate missing out on good loot. >_> But this is not that kind of game, right? I need to rethink how I approach this game I guess. What is the correct mindset? Seems the usual "kill shit, get loot, become god" is not the right kind.</quote>I mean, you can kind of go that route if you want. The main issue with going at it from that way is that it's all based entirely on your particular build far more than "this is the OP thing you get." So for example the game has the Ring of Balance which gives you +5 to your AC and gives you a permanent resistance to an enormous amount of the debilitating effects in the game (Fear, Confusion, etc.) and would absolutely be one of the "you must get this item" kind of deals in any other game. Here, however, it comes with the "build tax" in that your character must be True Neutral to actually use it in the first place. In addition it's not like your characters won't be able to essentially get around anything they come across without it just because spellcasters let you do basically everything. Yeah it's a huge deal to get away with those sorts of things (it's part of why Azata is so busted, though for other effects than what the Ring deals with) but you aren't going to really get the "looter RPG" feel that you're talking about.Really you should view the game through the lens of "progress story, become god" rather than anything to do with gear. Mythic paths are busted and let you do some really goofy nonsense. And if you happen to find a piece of gear that explicitly functions really well with what you're doing, then you scored. About the only piece of gear that will always be relevant is Finnean, and that's more because they are a companion in addition to being gear (though you definitely cannot underplay some of the best stats in the game + the ability to change weapon type).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 12:47:10 PM #65:	I see. I think I have better understanding now. At least, I think I do. >_> Just focus on my build and progress the story. Don't worry about missing stuff and think about Mythic paths more. That the jist of it? --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974685718] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>I see. I think I have better understanding now. At least, I think I do. >_> Just focus on my build and progress the story. Don't worry about missing stuff and think about Mythic paths more. That the jist of it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 12:57:30 PM #66:	Pretty much, yeah. Your build is generally going to be the thing that makes you successful or not (well, that and your team's in general... this is a party-based game after all) and your Mythic Path basically completely dumps on the balance if you want it to (and choose what you choose based on flavor, not because you want something OP... they're all OP and generally all work with most builds). Don't just skip sidequests, mind you, but don't really expect to be constantly on the look for OP gear from them. This is a story-based game and that is what is going to matter in the long run, and many of the quests will have long-reaching consequences that matter far more than the trinkets that you happen to get from them. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974685940] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much, yeah. Your build is generally going to be the thing that makes you successful or not (well, that and your team's in general... this is a party-based game after all) and your Mythic Path basically completely dumps on the balance if you want it to (and choose what you choose based on flavor, not because you want something OP... they're all OP and generally all work with most builds). Don't just skip sidequests, mind you, but don't really expect to be constantly on the look for OP gear from them. This is a story-based game and that is what is going to matter in the long run, and many of the quests will have long-reaching consequences that matter far more than the trinkets that you happen to get from them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 7:28:23 PM #67:	Is it Pathfinder time? I think it's Pathfinder time. Let's tackle some side quests. Huh, no quest markers? N-not that that means anything to me. Heading to the basement to find that idiot son @DrizztLink mentioned. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974693675] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Is it Pathfinder time? I think it's Pathfinder time. Let's tackle some side quests.Huh, no quest markers? N-not that that means anything to me.Heading to the basement to find that idiot son @DrizztLink mentioned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/07/23 7:35:06 PM #68:	Oh, a point for caster classes: you do want Point Blank Shot and Precise Shit as feats. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974693783] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Oh, a point for caster classes: you do want Point Blank Shot and Precise Shit as feats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 7:39:31 PM #69:	DrizztLink posted... Oh, a point for caster classes: you do want Point Blank Shot and Precise Shit as feats. Good to know. Those will be next choices when I level up. Is this tiefling guy supposed to be the "idiot son"? I'll free him, he seems fun. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974693866] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Oh, a point for caster classes: you do want Point Blank Shot and Precise Shit as feats.</quote>Good to know. Those will be next choices when I level up.Is this tiefling guy supposed to be the "idiot son"? I'll free him, he seems fun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 07/07/23 7:41:03 PM #70:	Crpgbros build are really powerful and beginner friendly. --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:974693903] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Crpgbros build are really powerful and beginner friendly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/07/23 7:47:43 PM #71:	This game is really good, but I recommend playing a simple class. Try Barbarian to start. Only thing to really watch out for is that some things are in-game time dependent, and if you don't pursue certain quests they can expire. NPCs will often mention rescuing someone or doing something in a few days, pay close attention to that. I like this one much more than Kingmaker. "Fate of the realms/planes" is much cooler than "win a barony" <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974694014] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>This game is really good, but I recommend playing a simple class. Try Barbarian to start. Only thing to really watch out for is that some things are in-game time dependent, and if you don't pursue certain quests they can expire. NPCs will often mention rescuing someone or doing something in a few days, pay close attention to that.I like this one much more than Kingmaker. "Fate of the realms/planes" is much cooler than "win a barony"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 07/07/23 7:48:43 PM #72:	pretzelcoatl posted... This game is really good, but I recommend playing a simple class. Try Barbarian to start. Only thing to really watch out for is that some things are in-game time dependent, and if you don't pursue certain quests they can expire. NPCs will often mention rescuing someone or doing something in a few days, pay close attention to that. I don't think WotR has quest likes that, I think that's the first game. Quests only expire if you don't complete them before going to the next act. --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:974694037] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>pretzelcoatl posted... </cite><quote>This game is really good, but I recommend playing a simple class. Try Barbarian to start. Only thing to really watch out for is that some things are in-game time dependent, and if you don't pursue certain quests they can expire. NPCs will often mention rescuing someone or doing something in a few days, pay close attention to that.</quote>I don't think WotR has quest likes that, I think that's the first game. Quests only expire if you don't complete them before going to the next act.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/07/23 7:49:22 PM #73:	HannibalBarca3 posted... I don't think WotR has quest likes that, I think that's the first game. Quests only expire if you don't complete them before going to the next act. It literally does in the first act. It starts right away with ~~the Storyteller.~~ <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974694051] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>HannibalBarca3 posted... </cite><quote>I don't think WotR has quest likes that, I think that's the first game. Quests only expire if you don't complete them before going to the next act.</quote>It literally does in the first act. It starts right away with the Storyteller. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 7:54:58 PM #74:	Is this an enemy Stand? I hope Woljif doesn't betray me later, I've taken a liking to him already. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974694168] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Is this an enemy Stand?I hope Woljif doesn't betray me later, I've taken a liking to him already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 7:57:58 PM #75:	pretzelcoatl posted... It literally does in the first act. It starts right away with ~~the Storyteller.~~ ? If it's the one I'm thinking of that's not time-limited beyond Act structure. The only timed thing that is in Act 1 is how you have three days to do the stuff at the beginning, but beyond that (effectively tutorial) event there isn't anything that actively requires that is locked by time. There are, however, some things that become locked off if you leave the area before doing them. That, however, has little to do with how long you take on anything (and most of them kind of come across as a bit obvious as to why you would want to do them at that exact moment...). Ivynn posted... Is this an enemy Stand? I hope Woljif doesn't betray me later, I've taken a liking to him already. Woljif is great. I stuck him in my party throughout the entire time, he is such a goober. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974694219] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>pretzelcoatl posted... </cite><quote>It literally does in the first act. It starts right away with the Storyteller. </quote>? If it's the one I'm thinking of that's not time-limited beyond Act structure. The only timed thing that is in Act 1 is how you have three days to do the stuff at the beginning, but beyond that (effectively tutorial) event there isn't anything that actively requires that is locked by time. There are, however, some things that become locked off if you leave the area before doing them. That, however, has little to do with how long you take on anything (and most of them kind of come across as a bit obvious as to why you would want to do them at that exact moment...).Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Is this an enemy Stand?I hope Woljif doesn't betray me later, I've taken a liking to him already.</quote>Woljif is great. I stuck him in my party throughout the entire time, he is such a goober.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 07/07/23 8:11:08 PM #76:	Woljif will temporarily leave your party during act 2, but you can recruit him again during the start of act 3. --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:974694478] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Woljif will temporarily leave your party during act 2, but you can recruit him again during the start of act 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/07/23 8:13:47 PM #77:	Highly recommend romancing Camilla :) <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974694525] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Highly recommend romancing Camilla :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 8:33:23 PM #78:	These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster. pretzelcoatl posted... Highly recommend romancing Camilla :) This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl? Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974694876] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster.pretzelcoatl posted... </cite><quote>Highly recommend romancing Camilla :)</quote>This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl?Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 07/07/23 8:36:12 PM #79:	Ivynn posted... Who else could be best girl? You already missed out on ~~best girl Wenduag~~ --- She/her https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/id/dreadedwave <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:974694933] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Who else could be best girl?</quote>You already missed out on best girl Wenduag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 07/07/23 8:37:17 PM #80:	Ivynn posted... These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster. This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl? Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance. --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:974694959] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster.This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl?Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games</quote>As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 8:40:24 PM #81:	Ivynn posted... This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl? Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games The game cares about character sexuality. So, for instance, Camilla is off limits as you can only romance her as a FeMC. That said most of the romance options are bi, so it's not like you really are locked out of anyone but Camellia (literally... the only other non-bi characters are dudes). And Camilla is absolutely not best girl. She is quite literally the most bland/boring companion and the only reason that they brought her up is because of her reveals later on making her overtly the least desirable character in the game. HannibalBarca3 posted... As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance. Oh right, Sosiel is gay. Yeah, he's off limits as well. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974695016] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>This game has romances? Don't know how I feel about Camilla yet. Who else could be best girl?Wait I'm playing a female. Does this mean some female characters aren't romanceable for me or is this one of those playersexual games</quote>The game cares about character sexuality. So, for instance, Camilla is off limits as you can only romance her as a FeMC. That said most of the romance options are bi, so it's not like you really are locked out of anyone but Camellia (literally... the only other non-bi characters are dudes).And Camilla is absolutely not best girl. She is quite literally the most bland/boring companion and the only reason that they brought her up is because of her reveals later on making her overtly the least desirable character in the game.HannibalBarca3 posted... </cite><quote>As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance.</quote>Oh right, Sosiel is gay. Yeah, he's off limits as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/07/23 8:44:28 PM #82:	Ivynn posted... These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster. The first page of Toybox has a setting to change movement speed outside of combat. I usually clock it at 2x. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974695092] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>These characters walk so slow. I'm not even over-encumbered. Wish they'd walk faster.</quote>The first page of Toybox has a setting to change movement speed outside of combat.I usually clock it at 2x.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/07/23 8:48:08 PM #83:	Crimsoness posted... You already missed out on ~~best girl Wenduag~~ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/4/AAZaD9AAEo2C.jpg Oh well, maybe next time if I do an evil playthrough. HannibalBarca3 posted... As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance. ellis123 posted... The game cares about character sexuality. So, for instance, Camilla is off limits as you can only romance her as a FeMC. I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_> Well on the off chance that I won't be able to pick the girl I like.....who is the best out of eligible gentlemen? --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974695152] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>You already missed out on best girl Wenduag</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/4/AAZaD9AAEo2C.jpg Oh well, maybe next time if I do an evil playthrough.HannibalBarca3 posted... </cite><quote>As a female character you're locked out of Sosiel and Camellia's romance.</quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>The game cares about character sexuality. So, for instance, Camilla is off limits as you can only romance her as a FeMC.</quote>I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_>Well on the off chance that I won't be able to pick the girl I like.....who is the best out of eligible gentlemen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/07/23 8:51:51 PM #84:	Ivynn posted... I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_> Camellia is straight --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:974695226] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_></quote>Camellia is straight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/07/23 8:52:44 PM #85:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Camellia is straight <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974695244] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>Camellia is straight</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 07/07/23 8:55:37 PM #86:	Ivynn posted... Oh well, maybe next time if I do an evil playthrough. ~~You can actually change her to true neutral~~ --- She/her https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/id/dreadedwave <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:974695301] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Oh well, maybe next time if I do an evil playthrough.</quote>You can actually change her to true neutral</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/07/23 8:56:45 PM #87:	Ivynn posted... I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_> Well on the off chance that I won't be able to pick the girl I like.....who is the best out of eligible gentlemen? Sorry, I meant to say cannot romance her as FeMC. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974695325] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I'm confused. One says I'm locked out of Camellia, another says I can only romance her as FeMC which I am. >_>Well on the off chance that I won't be able to pick the girl I like.....who is the best out of eligible gentlemen?</quote>Sorry, I meant to say cannot romance her as FeMC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 12:47:41 AM #88:	Ember... I don't who she is but she is pure and must be protected. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974699182] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ember... I don't who she is but she is pure and must be protected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 12:53:50 AM #89:	Huh a giant summoning circle made of blood and I have the option to finish it. .... YOLO That was a mistake. But this is how we learn. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974699252] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Huh a giant summoning circle made of blood and I have the option to finish it.....YOLOThat was a mistake. But this is how we learn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/08/23 1:03:16 AM #90:	Bumblefucking your way into making everything worse is the Pathfinder way. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974699366] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Bumblefucking your way into making everything worse is the Pathfinder way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/08/23 1:10:05 AM #91:	DrizztLink posted... Bumblefucking your way into making everything worse is the Pathfinder way. True enough <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974699451] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Bumblefucking your way into making everything worse is the Pathfinder way.</quote>True enough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 1:23:35 AM #92:	Hope helping a drow doesn't come back to bite me. I've been choosing a lot of Good options but I'm trying to be Neutral too. Haven't come across any neutral dialogue options. Unless they aren't marked like Good and Evil. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974699591] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Hope helping a drow doesn't come back to bite me.I've been choosing a lot of Good options but I'm trying to be Neutral too. Haven't come across any neutral dialogue options. Unless they aren't marked like Good and Evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 1:42:39 AM #93:	Well Nenio is certainly...a character. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974699774] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Well Nenio is certainly...a character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 07/08/23 1:46:32 AM #94:	Ivynn posted... Well Nenio is certainly...a character. Nenio is....interesting. probably my least favorite of the bunch, but they are all pretty well written. <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:974699806] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Well Nenio is certainly...a character.</quote>Nenio is....interesting. probably my least favorite of the bunch, but they are all pretty well written.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/08/23 2:10:39 AM #95:	Nenio is the character whose character quest has an enormous break in the middle of it that I mentioned before. And she's interesting, though mostly through her character development (in particular what you learn at the end of her character quest). She's also pretty busted as a "high roll" spell caster, though it definitely involves a level of RNG that can be a bit much. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:974699980] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Nenio is the character whose character quest has an enormous break in the middle of it that I mentioned before.And she's interesting, though mostly through her character development (in particular what you learn at the end of her character quest). She's also pretty busted as a "high roll" spell caster, though it definitely involves a level of RNG that can be a bit much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 07/08/23 3:14:35 AM #96:	Nenio is probably the best party member mechanic wise or at least up there with Sosiel and Seelah. Build her properly around the usage of phantasmal killer and she has the potential to one hit kill even boss characters, and once weird comes online her high illusion DC allows her to pretty much clear out every trash mob in the game. She can even be a good melee fighter if you give her that intelligence bardiche that you can get in crusader mode and have her cast legendary proportions on herself plus her unique ~~kitsune feat pounce gives her an edge in melee combat allowing her to make full attacks out of a charge.~~ --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:974700508] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Nenio is probably the best party member mechanic wise or at least up there with Sosiel and Seelah. Build her properly around the usage of phantasmal killer and she has the potential to one hit kill even boss characters, and once weird comes online her high illusion DC allows her to pretty much clear out every trash mob in the game. She can even be a good melee fighter if you give her that intelligence bardiche that you can get in crusader mode and have her cast legendary proportions on herself plus her unique kitsune feat pounce gives her an edge in melee combat allowing her to make full attacks out of a charge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 8:20:24 AM #97:	Last hour of my session last night was spent walking around the tavern listening to everyone's backstories. Lann especially got me, poor guy. I mean, hearing about how his mother gave birth to babies born in pieces was a brutal image. And in true RPG MC fashion, after pouring his soul to me, I used the opportunity to hit on him. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974702654] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Last hour of my session last night was spent walking around the tavern listening to everyone's backstories. Lann especially got me, poor guy. I mean, hearing about how his mother gave birth to babies born in pieces was a brutal image. And in true RPG MC fashion, after pouring his soul to me, I used the opportunity to hit on him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/08/23 5:16:59 PM #98:	Ivynn posted... Last hour of my session last night was spent walking around the tavern listening to everyone's backstories. Lann especially got me, poor guy. I mean, hearing about how his mother gave birth to babies born in pieces was a brutal image. And in true RPG MC fashion, after pouring his soul to me, I used the opportunity to hit on him. His backstory is fairly dark. Not as dark as a party member you get in chapter 3 who is actually best girl. And one of the most wholesome romances in RPG history. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:974711306] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Last hour of my session last night was spent walking around the tavern listening to everyone's backstories. Lann especially got me, poor guy. I mean, hearing about how his mother gave birth to babies born in pieces was a brutal image. And in true RPG MC fashion, after pouring his soul to me, I used the opportunity to hit on him.</quote>His backstory is fairly dark. Not as dark as a party member you get in chapter 3 who is actually best girl. And one of the most wholesome romances in RPG history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/08/23 5:33:38 PM #99:	Just learned about Nethys. Perhaps I should be worshipping him instead of Alfalfa. Can I change gods --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:974711582] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Just learned about Nethys. Perhaps I should be worshipping him instead of Alfalfa. Can I change gods</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/08/23 5:34:21 PM #100:	Too bad, you worship Elphaba and you'll like it. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974711595] in I'm playin... [t:80501018]...</cite> <quote>Too bad, you worship Elphaba and you'll like it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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