Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 405: Pride Month Comes Before the Fall

Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
LightningStrikes
07/24/23 7:41:09 PM
#454:


Well I got blocked by someone I dont actually disagree with over a topic we dont actually disagree on. Not really worth it. Especially upsetting as a trans (genderfluid but w/e) British person to have to put up with all the crap thats going on in my home country then have people on the internet yell at me about it. Pretty upset actually.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
SirChris
07/24/23 7:51:52 PM
#455:


LightningStrikes posted...
Well I got blocked by someone I dont actually disagree with over a topic we dont actually disagree on. Not really worth it. Especially upsetting as a trans (genderfluid but w/e) British person to have to put up with all the crap thats going on in my home country then have people on the internet yell at me about it. Pretty upset actually.
Don't be tbh. Everyone has their perspectives and deals with their struggles in their own way. I know it won't help to say this, but don't take it personally when others do this sort of thing just try to stay positive. You're both doing your best and sometimes it can get ugly because this is like, both of your lives on the line in different ways.


---
Acknowledge Me
"Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/24/23 7:59:56 PM
#456:


Thank you Chris you are a gem. Will try my best, Im definitely not going to hold any grudges or anything.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles
07/24/23 10:05:23 PM
#457:


LightningStrikes is not in fact cis.

Don't shoot the messenger?

---
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
... Copied to Clipboard!
ElizeLutus
07/24/23 10:44:51 PM
#458:


Grimlyn posted...
Labour is absolutely riddled with outspoken transphobic bigots like Rosie Duffield who is completely drowning in nothing but flagrant anti-trans rhetoric and pushing the likes of party leader Kier Starmer who publicly argued for forcibly outing LGBT youths to abusive parents and has piled on to the beyond f***ing ridiculous cat identity hoax.

There's a lot of hoaxes going around. It's a ridiculous story designed to spark outrage at those too (excuse me for saying it) are too stupid to know it's not true. My former school district banned asking for pronouns because some parent called in saying their child was being bullied being asked for their pronouns. Now I'm willing to bet one of two things happened: #1. The parent made the story up. Probably at the urging of people like Matt Walsh OR #2. The supervisor made the story up at the urging of people like Matt Walsh. And they did this during a time when teacher retention was (and remains) low because they refuse to give teachers raises. I'm so glad that I got out, but I still worry for the students left behind who I can't stand up for anymore. Even the Superintendent called them out on it. (And some members of the community as well). It was just plain ridiculous.

And that's the thing: All these made up stories are easy for people to believe because they want to believe it. It's easier that way to hate people they don't know. It gives them windmills to tilt at. Only the windmills are vulnerable children they're knocking over in their path for 'justice'.

Politicians have spread the harmful rhetoric of the 'litter box' story, without ever verifying it. Imagine if Democrats made up a story about Florida Schools requiring students to pledge an oath to Hitler. And then everyone decided to believe it because hey, it sounds like something the right would do!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn
07/24/23 11:12:20 PM
#459:


ElizeLutus posted...
Now I'm willing to bet one of two things happened: #1. The parent made the story up. Probably at the urging of people like Matt Walsh OR #2. The supervisor made the story up at the urging of people like Matt Walsh
We have the recording so we do know exactly what happened (from the student who wanted to catch the teacher being 'woke'), it's from the very start so you don't have to get too far.

Teacher: "How dare you, you've just really upset someone. Saying things like you should be in an asylum."
Student 1: "I didn't say that. If they genuinely identify as a cat or something then they are genuinely unwell."
Student 2: "Yeah, they are crazy."

... derails from there to the more general "I don't believe in trans" argument, the student tries to mention the cat thing again at the end.

Student: "I haven't said anything at all, but it is because they turn around and say things. So I said how can you identify as a cat when you're a girl?"

but no person actually identifying as a cat is actually acknowledged throughout, it's just the student using the dumb strawman to win an argument and the press is primed to believe it

But yeah all that ever matters is the made-up story and then the public absorbs it and corrections never get the same spread. Student probably indeed used "identify as a cat" because they heard it mentioned before somewhere sure, exactly like how now people are hearing her mention it and internalizing the story as fact as well. It's a cycle that never actually gets publicly refuted.

---
http://gmun.moe/ffcc
GuessMyUserName's account's very own account!
... Copied to Clipboard!
ElizeLutus
07/25/23 12:01:45 AM
#460:


Oh, sorry I wasn't clear. I was referring to what the supervisor in my old district said. Obviously the cat story was 100% misrepresented. But I'd be willing to bet the story of a student feeling 'bullied' for being asked for their pronouns was also made up. Either by the parent or the supervisor. Because that's their playbook when it comes to transgender issues, and other issues as well. I wish people weren't so gullible. But they're willing to believe anything negative about their opponents.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn
07/25/23 12:20:06 AM
#461:


Oh that yeah

It's like the case conservatives latched onto about an Irish teacher Enoch Burke, "JAILED FOR REFUSING STUDENT'S PRONOUNS", when he was actually jailed for contempt of court order restraining him from attending the school after his suspension, of which he kept returning to the school to harass student body & staff.

But so many conservatives are primed for "they want to jail you for pronouns" that reality doesn't actually matter.

---
http://gmun.moe/ffcc
GuessMyUserName's account's very own account!
... Copied to Clipboard!
AriaOfBolo
07/25/23 10:33:16 AM
#462:


Grimlyn posted...
cis "allies"

sore wa chigau

---
New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor!
She is messy, but she's kind; she is lonely, most of the time
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/25/23 11:47:17 AM
#463:


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/25/gulf-stream-could-collapse-as-early-as-2025-study-suggests

Well thats not great.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn
07/25/23 1:00:42 PM
#464:


AriaOfBolo posted...
sore wa chigau
I can acknowledge I got that wrong but it doesn't change using long played-out transphobic tropes to dismiss concerns of very real trans women who are terrified of the state the world is becoming, and then directly tell a trans women she's being transphobic for criticizing the complete dearth of support from allies.

I mentioned it before but LS has a long history of downplaying transphobia in the UK, I've called them out on it before when they did my absolutely pet-peeve as a non-American: using the "US is worse" meme that already at the time I've previously known LS for using. I'm tired of that shit and this is the last straw when you're also dismissing trans concerns as people just online people wanting to be mad as if we're not actually suffering from the cultural shift taking place. If you fail to see how condescending that is then it's better for us not to see each other's posts.

---
http://gmun.moe/ffcc
GuessMyUserName's account's very own account!
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/25/23 1:48:38 PM
#465:


Well if I could see the posts here what I would say is that i do not think that is a fair depiction at all. In regards to the specific topic of trans rights I can remember making that point once, and it was specifically in response to a claim that transphobia was imported from the UK to the US (despite the fact that some of the biggest funders of the Tufton Street crew are US evangelical groups) and it was so much worse in the UK, so its not like it was out of nowhere. In fact I would argue that the meme is very much UK is worse from Americans so really its just the same thing in reverse - and like with the opposite this is not just about transphobia! The reality though is as a Briton living abroad that has become the refrain on all topics since the brexit vote. Of course things have, in large part as a direct result of that vote things have gotten a lot worse - I literally no longer want to move back there as a result of it all! Absolutely I would never claim to downplay UK transphobia, something Im active in campaigning against. However if that was how it came across I can only apologise. BUT what I will say is that this year I decided to stop being so harsh on America because it doesnt really feel like my place. Now I did that privately, fair enough that would not be known, but GMUN is raging against a behaviour I already decided to stop.

The timing of this is quite funny because literally the day before I learned that a trans friend of mine has completely withdrawn from the local LGBTQ+ community because of the infighting and backlash he was getting whenever he attempted to do anything positive. It is vital that we dont eat our own (and that does include everyone) as the whole divide and rule thing is what the bigots want. After all, the British invented that tactic for the colonies!

What I would say if GMUN could see this is that we both apologise for taking it too far and agree to not do it again. We will agree to understand each others perspectives and let this issue lie. Given how fast these topics can move and how I think weve both made them in the past I would support lifting the block and moving on otherwise it will just be a pain. I definitely dont think keeping a grudge going is a good idea given that blocks are hilariously easy to circumvent anyway.

So you have my sincere apologies, I was too harsh and I understand that. I truly hope that we can move on and be friends going forward.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4
07/25/23 10:51:34 PM
#466:


https://twitter.com/goodpoliticguy/status/1683788457846398976?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

lol

---
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1
07/25/23 11:04:59 PM
#467:


Democrats have controlled congress for literally none of that timeframe
... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer
07/25/23 11:09:36 PM
#468:


I thought Dems had both chambers (and with good majorities) during Obama's first two years.

I feel like I understand why he played so softly despite having so much Congressional leverage, but man, it still stings as such a wasted opportunity.

---
Burnin, Blazin
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1
07/25/23 11:11:01 PM
#469:


YoBlazer posted...
I thought Dems had both chambers (and with good majorities) during Obama's first two years.
Yeah and that's when they passed a minimum wage increase.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/26/23 3:30:46 AM
#470:


So in other words the minimum wage has decreased in real terms.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1
07/26/23 3:47:02 AM
#471:


Right, which is why they're advocating for another increase to the minimum wage.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/26/23 4:12:50 AM
#472:


True though that would come to about $10, $15 is a real terms increase which would be great. Even in 2009 you werent going to survive on $7.25 an hour!

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4
07/26/23 9:26:27 AM
#473:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Democrats have controlled congress for literally none of that timeframe

Setting aside that thats not true, does it make it any less funny (in a pathetic way) that the party who was President for 10 of the last 14 years is complaining that during that same time frame it hasnt been raised?

Paratroopa1 posted...
Yeah and that's when they passed a minimum wage increase.

The minimum wage increase that happened in 2009 was from a bill passed in 2007.

They could and should have passed another bill to step it up over time again, or tie it to inflation, oranything but nothing, lol.

Its probably too late for this doomed country, but Id like to think eventually Democrats will learn that its pointless to bank political capital anymore.

---
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn
07/26/23 12:35:38 PM
#474:


FWIW, with the exception of that brief period from July 2009 - January 2010, the Dems have not had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. Which has largely been the sticking point.

Even in the last minimum wage increase from 2007, when Dems passed a clean raise - it got filibustered by the GOP and opposed by Bush, and they refused to pass anything unless they got a bunch of tax cuts for businesses... which the Dems eventually gave them so they could pass it.

And so, starting from 2009 when the 2007 bill finished raising it, you had that brief 8 month period where they could have done more.

Then:

2010-2018: GOP had the House
2018-2020: Dems win back the House, but lost the Senate outright (since 2014).
2020-2022: Okay, now we've got something here... only it's a nominal trifecta where the Dems Senate control (forget the filibuster lmao) hinges on Manchin and Sinema
2022-: lost the house again

Now, granted, I do think the 2018-2022 House should have, somewhere along the line actually passed the minimum wage increase. It had over 200 cosponsors but never came up for a vote. Now it would have died in the Senate regardless of whether it was brought up in 2019-2020 or 2021-2022 either from McConnell just never bringing it up in the former, or him filibustering it in the latter but it would have been something. The only real excuse you can give for the 2021-2022 Congress is we were still in pandemic crisis mode so that took all the political capital in passing all the relief. This would have all been show votes though and not actually materially helped anyone though so it wouldn't change the fact that the minimum wage is the same now as it was in 2009. I think it'd be worth doing regardless but let's not pretend it would have changed anything.

but to answer the question of does it make it less funny? yeah it kinda does, because the reduction of the federal government to just looking at who is the president and acting like they're a king who is the sole decider of what does and doesn't get done during their term is part of the civic education rot that has allowed an obstructionist congress to get away with its bullshit for decades now

---
May you find your book in this place.
Formerly known as xp1337.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn
07/26/23 12:53:03 PM
#475:


Thorn posted...
but to answer the question of does it make it less funny? yeah it kinda does, because the reduction of the federal government to just looking at who is the president and acting like they're a king who is the sole decider of what does and doesn't get done during their term is part of the civic education rot that has allowed an obstructionist congress to get away with its bullshit for decades now

The US government is just inherently designed that way. It's a lot to expect voters to follow two legislative bodies (one of which takes more than half a decade for a full election cycle) plus a separately elected executive. There's too many places for things to be blocked and no easy way to know who should be blamed.

---
Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon
07/26/23 1:13:31 PM
#476:


As always, I blame the electorate. Theyre stupidly fickle, and as Ive said in the past theyre far more economically conservative than most of us want to admit. Republicans get punished in every other election for displays incompetence, racism, and a general lack of understanding of basic economic principles. Meanwhile, Democrats get punished during the alternating elections for attempting any semblance of progressive legislation (see: Obamacare, the Civil Rights Act). To the voting majority of this country, trying to help everyone is as bad as, if not worse than, trying to hurt everyone, so long as the former involves higher taxes and the latter pretends not to.

---
Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever
http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9
07/26/23 1:15:22 PM
#477:


Lack of education plays into a lot of people voting R anyways. Theyre so brainwashed you can catch them contradicting their own words countless times and theyll still support the party anyways because they want their faces eaten
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri
07/26/23 1:49:54 PM
#478:


Xeybozn posted...
The US government is just inherently designed that way. It's a lot to expect voters to follow two legislative bodies (one of which takes more than half a decade for a full election cycle) plus a separately elected executive. There's too many places for things to be blocked and no easy way to know who should be blamed.
I honestly don't think it's that difficult, unless of course you're hooked up to an IV of straight misinformation 24/7.

Luckily nobody would do that to themselves.

---
Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else.
... Copied to Clipboard!
red_sox_777
07/26/23 1:54:29 PM
#479:


You guys are forgetting that for years after 2008 we had persistently high unemployment, where many people were not able to get jobs at all, even at $7.25 an hour. Would you want someone making $10 an hour to lose their job entirely so that someone making $13 an hour can have their pay bumped up to $15 an hour?

In more recent years, we have reached an era of very low unemployment, so it seems that we should be able to raise the minimum wage without putting many people out of jobs. But it wasn't until well into Trump's presidency that employment levels could be called good.

---
September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013
Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/26/23 1:57:54 PM
#480:


Given how difficult it is to get things through, would the move not be to, the next time you had the trifecta, set it that the minimum wage increases each year? Which stops you from going 14 years with a static minimum wage. Of course single bigger increases are still useful.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
red_sox_777
07/26/23 2:09:33 PM
#481:


LightningStrikes posted...
Given how difficult it is to get things through, would the move not be to, the next time you had the trifecta, set it that the minimum wage increases each year? Which stops you from going 14 years with a static minimum wage. Of course single bigger increases are still useful.

Yes, you could index it to inflation. A lot of US statutes do that.

---
September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013
Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn
07/26/23 2:13:18 PM
#482:


LightningStrikes posted...
Given how difficult it is to get things through, would the move not be to, the next time you had the trifecta, set it that the minimum wage increases each year? Which stops you from going 14 years with a static minimum wage. Of course single bigger increases are still useful.
Would presumably be halted next time the other party had a trifecta, but yeah you could in theory do something like tie it to inflation. Though again I stress that the only time they had a filibuster-proof trifecta was for 5 months in 2009 under Obama which had the arguably unfortunate timing of being when the last round of increases completed so there probably wasn't much pressure on them to feel like they had to do something right that moment. The next trifecta wasn't until Biden 2021-2022 at which case the trifecta was as nominal as it gets with a 50-50 Senate with kingmakers Sinema and Manchin to say nothing of the 60 vote threshold to defeat a filibuster.

~~~

Anyway, hate to abruptly switch topics here but this is such a "jesus fucking christ" thing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/auschwitz-memorial-criticizes-fox-news-greg-gutfeld-saying-jews-surviv-rcna96200

So, remember the whole "Florida mandating that kids be taught that black people learned valuable skills in slavery?"

So, Fox News had a panel discussing it, and one of the cohosts expressed some discomfort with it stating that being Jewish they naturally wondered if you could make a similar argument as DeSantis's Florida about Jews imprisoned in concentration camps in Nazi Germany.

To which Gutfeld (a primetime Fox News Host who apparently Fox tries to sell as hosting a comedy show) replies, "Did you ever [read] 'Man's Search for Meaning?' Vik Frankl talks about how you had to survive in a concentration camp by having skills. You had to be useful. Utility. Utility kept you alive."

So that's where Fox is now.

---
May you find your book in this place.
Formerly known as xp1337.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
07/26/23 2:30:04 PM
#483:


Thorn posted...


So that's where Fox has always been.


---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4
07/26/23 3:22:35 PM
#484:


https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1684267142839955456?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Sleepy Mitch

(Age limits pls)

---
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/26/23 3:25:58 PM
#485:


Yep that looks like a mini-stroke to me. Could also be dementia. Either way he is clearly not well in that video.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9
07/26/23 3:32:39 PM
#486:


Man its unfortunate for him even though by all rights he has been a terrible member of the government. There seriously do need to be age limits for being in the government though. I mean some of them sound like theyre borderline Alzheimers and/or dementia ridden and still being allowed to keep their spot
... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25
07/26/23 5:35:27 PM
#487:


No age limits, no term limits

---
Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large
... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurai7
07/26/23 5:52:10 PM
#488:


Jakyl25 posted...
No age limits, no term limits

We already have age limits

---
Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64
07/26/23 6:06:47 PM
#489:


Samurai7 posted...
We already have age limits
Ah but you see in the US discrimination against old people is illegal but discrimination against young people is a-ok.

Which is how age limits are treated.

---
"Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris
... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon
07/26/23 6:12:47 PM
#490:


I lost faith in an age cap after someone born in 1902 was still a sitting senator in 2003.

---
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
#theresafreakingghostafterus
... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4
07/26/23 8:13:40 PM
#491:


Jakyl25 posted...
No age limits, no term limits

Yes age limits, yes term limits.


---
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1
07/26/23 8:40:35 PM
#492:


If Kentucky wants to put this guy in senate long past his expiration date I have zero interest in stopping them
... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos
07/27/23 12:49:40 PM
#493:


swordz9 posted...
Lack of education plays into a lot of people voting R anyways. Theyre so brainwashed you can catch them contradicting their own words countless times and theyll still support the party anyways because they want their faces eaten

It's a very cultural thing. Rural America is the largest echo chamber in the country (though one could say it's thousands of small echo chambers).

You can blame it on education, but these are people who don't have their worldview challenged and don't ever engage with liberals or LGBT folk (to their knowledge) or conservatives with moderate views or any minority races.

What I always say is that colleges don't make people more liberal - it's the other students that make people more liberal.

---
"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic
... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn
07/27/23 8:39:26 PM
#494:


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/us/politics/trump-documents-carlos-de-oliveira-charged.html

Special Counsel added more charges against Trump - more national security documents he tried to show others but the big thing seems to be adding a third defendant, Mar-a-Lago's property manager, Carlos De Oliveira, and accusing Trump of telling him to delete security camera footage there under charges of seeking to "alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal evidence" and inducing someone to do so.

NYT reports...
The revised indictment said that in late June of last year, shortly after the government demanded the surveillance footage as part of its inquiry, Mr. Trump called Mr. De Oliveira and they spoke for 24 minutes.

Two days later, the indictment said, Mr. Nauta and Mr. De Oliveira "went to the security guard booth where surveillance video is displayed on monitors, walked with a flashlight through the tunnel where the storage room was located, and observed and pointed out surveillance cameras."

A few days after that, Mr. De Oliveira went to see Mr. Taveras, who is identified in the indictment as Trump Employee 4, and took him to a small room known as an "audio closet." There, the indictment said, the two men had a conversation that was meant to "remain between the two of them."

It was then that Mr. De Oliveira told Mr. Taveras that "'the boss' wanted the server deleted," the indictment said, referring to the computer server holding the security footage.

Mr. Taveras objected and said he did not know how to delete the server and did not think he had the right to do so, the indictment said. At that point, the indictment said, Mr. De Oliveira insisted again that "the boss" wanted the server deleted, asking, "What are we going to do?"

---
May you find your book in this place.
Formerly known as xp1337.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus
07/28/23 3:11:27 AM
#495:


Trump was still less bad a President than Bush but that's not saying much, and he's millions of orders more sociopathic.

---
Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders?
... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon
07/28/23 9:07:58 AM
#496:


Bush was worse internationally, but domestically Trump has set us back literally over 100 years.

---
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
#theresafreakingghostafterus
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer
07/28/23 1:07:36 PM
#497:


The problem with getting an age cap is that half of our senators are over said be cap, and would therefore never vote for it.

---
This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes!
~Alexandra
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri
07/28/23 1:30:36 PM
#498:


"Fun" fact (that you all might know already): relative to the rest of us, Congress is actually getting younger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/04/01/yes-congress-is-getting-older-but-so-are-the-rest-of-us/

today the average Congressman is roughly 1.5x as old as the average U.S. citizen. Again, the ratio is much smaller than it was in the early 1900s, when the average Congressman was anywhere from 2 to 2.5 times as old as the average citizen. If that same ratio held true today, the average Senator would be 93 years old! The actual Senatorial average of 63 is downright sprightly by comparison.

article is from 2014 tbf

---
Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/28/23 2:37:01 PM
#499:


I think Trumps international impact can be severely underrated because its harder to quantify than Bushs, for instance we have no idea how much the international spread of COVID was affected by him, we know repressive regimes like Russia were emboldened but cant tell exactly what actions would have changed, and so on. Also Biden quickly undid it but his attempt to leave the WHO would have been devastating. With Bush you know exactly what the impact was. That said a very high bar to clear. So congratulations you are both terrible!

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes
07/28/23 2:37:22 PM
#500:


Seize the means of production.

---
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10