Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 404: Fox Tuckers Out, CNN Sours On Lemon

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bill Clinton's impeachment deemed a supposedly partisan power grab by Republicans that actually increased his popularity with Democrats? Guess some things never change.

https://twitter.com/juddlegum/status/1661006191525531648?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

https://twitter.com/juddlegum/status/1661008182205087746?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Absolutely insane story.

white supremacist with crazy nazi names for her children?

musk must already be in her DMs

Why are we saying alleged when she literally named her kids "Aryan" and "Nation".

"Alleged Nazi, Gas Chambers killed a woman this morning while driving a car with his two children Adolf (5) and Hitler (3)"

Dancedreamer posted...

Why are we saying alleged when she literally named her kids "Aryan" and "Nation".

"Alleged Nazi, Gas Chambers killed a woman this morning while driving a car with his two children Adolf (5) and Hitler (3)"

Better question, why were her kids not taken the second she chose those names?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852

Speaking of nazis

RuneterranSnap posted...

Better question, why were her kids not taken the second she chose those names?

Maybe their middle names make it better. Could be like Nation Alismisbad Lastname.

Kenri posted...

Maybe their middle names make it better. Could be like Nation Alismisbad Lastname.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/6/AAfXLkAAEgqK.jpg

Kenri posted...

Maybe their middle names make it better. Could be like Nation Alismisbad Lastname.

well her last name is White lol

oh fucking god, in attendance they would be listed as "White, Nation"

So apparently the Citi Bike drama isn't done, now the mother of the central kid in the video is claiming, with receipts, that the kid had been using the bike to travel and was stopped to rest when she asked to tale a bike from him and his friends, and after being declined she reached over and scanned the bike he was using

Yesterday felt like a sneaky big news day. First day in a good while where there like 3+ stories I felt were worth posting here.

1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/25/trump-classified-documents-mar-a-lago/

Update on the classified documents at MAL. Trump's employees were moving boxes of documents the day before the FBI arrived to seize them and they find that suspicious. Additionally it came out that even before the subpoena that led to the seizure that Trump and his aides carried out a "dress rehearsal" for moving the classified documents. Finally, it appears prosecutors have gathered evidence that Trump kept classified documents in a visible place and showed them to others.

2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/25/supreme-court-clean-water-act/

SCOTUS decides 5-4 to gut the Clean Water Act by overturning a decades-old previous decision that defined what counted as protected under the law. While all 9 agreed that the EPA went too far in the specific case of an Idaho couple they were deciding, the Court decided to go further than that and just eviscerate the law.

Kavanaugh was the one conservative who joined the liberals this time. In his dissent he points out that the majority is literally just ignoring the text of the law and redefining words as they please to push their agenda. (At issue is the text of the Clean Water act uses "adjacent" and the majority just goes "fuck it" and decides it actually means "adjoining" to which Kavanaugh points out they are different words with different meanings. And that by deciding to ignore the text and insert their own version from their asses they are having millions of acres fall out of protection of the Clean Water Act with potentially massive consequences.)

The majority barely responds to his point, and the tiny paragraph they address him with you can feel their disdain dripping from it. I'm barely paraphrasing when I say their response is, "But how can a wetland count as water? who is redefining words now? checkmate libs."

3. https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1661763458843529216

Is it really "saying the quiet part out loud" at this point? I kind of feel like it's not quiet anymore that the GOP puts the party before the country. "A default would be bad for America but good for us politically."

Thorn posted...

Kavanaugh was the one conservative who joined the liberals this time. In his dissent he points out that the majority is literally just ignoring the text of the law and redefining words as they please to push their agenda.

weird of kavanaugh, of all people, to act like he has any issue with someone doing this

Defund the Supreme Court

Kenri posted...

weird of kavanaugh, of all people, to act like he has any issue with someone doing this

yeah it is, but honestly it almost always feels weird when one of them defects because it's almost never about principle based on their previous votes

Only exception I can think of offhand is that Gorsuch and Native American rights where he seems to be pretty consistent on that. Well, some of their rights, I guess.

Wow, possible to be too corrupt for Texas Rs apparently

https://twitter.com/patricksvitek/status/1662576221035667457?s=21

Tentative agreement in principle reached on debt ceiling between McCarthy and the White House.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1662615601200734209
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/27/us/politics/debt-limit-deal.html

Details are sparse right now (McCarthy says we'll get the text tomorrow), but NYT reporting that part of the deal includes:

2 year raise of the debt limit (so past the 2024 election)
New work requirements on TANF and food stamps

• Specifically it seems it limits the time people under 54 with no children can benefit
• Also expands the program for vets and homeless

IRS funding to crack down on tax cheats reduced from $80bn to $70bn
Speeds up environmental reviews of certain energy projects

Welp I guess I wont lose my health insurance at least!

Speeding up environmental review is actually probably good, the process is seriously abused by people who just generally want to stop stuff for any reason (in fact, a ton of clean energy projects get held up massively by environmental review as well)

LordoftheMorons posted...

Welp I guess I wont lose my health insurance at least!

Same, but I'm not counting that yet until the text is out and the bill passes.

Fair enough! Overall it looks not that terrible all things considered (still bad of course, but better than default or the GOP wishlist). And the limit being pushed past 2024 is pretty big.

Details are still fluid but I've seen several numbers now on the IRS number: $1.9b (apparently McCarthy used this on Fox), $10b (the NYT had this when the details broke), and $20b.

I'm tentatively thinking that NYT just fucked up/details changed last minute and it was a $20bn reduction (So $80b increase dropped to $60b) spread over 10 years which would explain why the $1.9b number is around as a per-year thing.

Also seeing reporting that the changes to TANF and food stamps isn't new work requirements but moving the existing age restriction on the already in-place ones from those age 49 and below up to age 54 and below. Which still sucks for those people but is not quite as bad as I feared.

Also seeing that Sinema blew up a good deal of the permitting reform that ended up in the final deal (as in, it's still there but in a much reduced form) because of fucking course she did. (how did she eve get in the negotiating room for this when it was House GOP and Biden?)

Though, naturally, until we see the bill who the fuck knows. But this is my current understanding of what the deal entails.

I stand corrected. Apparently it really is only a $1.9 billion reduction from the original $80 billion lmfao

https://twitter.com/doug_sword/status/1662876896596566017

Also lol:

https://twitter.com/caitlinzemma/status/1662981982576427010

Thanks for the updates. I haven't been seeing many updates in my circle since last weekend.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1663200925018726407?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Some of the replies are about as awful as youd expect.

insert sowing reaping meme here

its really funny that every now and then a gop lawmaker will tip their hand and reveal they aren't a true believer psycho and they get completely roasted by their base for it

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1663200925018726407?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Some of the replies are about as awful as youd expect.

probably a fun game to search the "it's their country" folks twitter history with the word "canada"