Board 8 > Marvel Snap Topic 6: Leader Players Anonymous

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Lopen
01/29/23 1:44:07 PM
#51:


Ronan is fine but he should be better than Devil Dinosaur since he's more work to achieve his power condition. More base power is a crude solution but could help. Upping his base to 4 or 5.

I think just passively giving the location bonus power would be better and more interesting as he'd fit into Cerebro 3 decks really well then, and would avoid Shang Chi.

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WazzupGenius00
01/29/23 1:53:13 PM
#52:


Ronan also has way less cards to help himall I can think of is Maximus, Baron Mordo, Wave, and I guess you could Viper over an Electro. Master Mold will help once he comes out if his ability doesnt change: 3/3 On Reveal: Add three Sentinels to the opponents hand

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Jakyl25
01/29/23 2:05:03 PM
#53:


Sandman kinda helps

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LiquidOshawott
01/29/23 2:06:12 PM
#54:


Oh I thought Ronan was 4 for some reason

think then he would probably be pretty nuts in Zabu decks lol albeit Darkhawk is probably just better

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swordz9
01/29/23 2:41:36 PM
#55:


Oh man this match was very lucky for me. Location on far right was the On Reveal activating twice and Jubilee was the first card I played on it

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Johnbobb
01/29/23 2:45:20 PM
#56:


one thing I learned about Leader the hard way: his copies apparently happen after your own on reveals but before his?

So like I played a Mystique turn 6 that copied my Iron Man.

My opponent then plays Leader, who copies my Mystique, but instead of copying her before she used her On Reveal (like how every other On Reveal still triggers their On Reveals when he copies them) he copied her already copying my Iron Man

luckily I still pulled off the win, but what should've been an easy victory ended up being very close. How does that work with other On Reveals? If he copies a Black Panther, does he copy it at its base score or does it copy it after its own On Reveal happens, only to then double again on his side?

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Lopen
01/29/23 2:50:26 PM
#57:


Yeah part of the reason (honestly the main imo) Leader is stupid is if he flips first he'll copy the modified copies, which then do their abilities.

So for example if you play Forge + Black Panther you'd get a (4+2)*2 12 Black Panther-- Leader would then copy a 12 Black Panther who would Wakanda Forever!~ and become a 24 Black Panther.

But then also with Leech he ALSO won't copy the blanked effect they have and he'll get the genuine articles, so it's a double standard. So it feels like a best of both worlds situation always favoring Leader-- I assume the coding is just sloppy and it's not really working like intended but yeah.

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WazzupGenius00
01/29/23 3:40:06 PM
#58:


Johnbobb posted...
one thing I learned about Leader the hard way: his copies apparently happen after your own on reveals but before his?

So like I played a Mystique turn 6 that copied my Iron Man.

My opponent then plays Leader, who copies my Mystique, but instead of copying her before she used her On Reveal (like how every other On Reveal still triggers their On Reveals when he copies them) he copied her already copying my Iron Man

luckily I still pulled off the win, but what should've been an easy victory ended up being very close. How does that work with other On Reveals? If he copies a Black Panther, does he copy it at its base score or does it copy it after its own On Reveal happens, only to then double again on his side?
It depends on the turn order. If the Leader player flips first, the copies will be whatever the card is before it flips, then they do their On Reveals in the order they were played. If Leader player flips second, the copies will be however they currently are on the board, and then do their On Reveals. This does mean that if a card is destroyed or removed from the board before Leader flips, Leader wont get a copy. Lockjaw is good for this.

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/29/23 3:56:56 PM
#59:


Leader flipping a vanilla card instead of a modified one would help a lot. Seems like an easy fix.

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foolm0r0n
01/29/23 3:58:21 PM
#60:


Leader should really play the cards that the opponent played. So if they are copied on Death's Domain, they would die since they count as played.

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WazzupGenius00
01/29/23 7:00:32 PM
#61:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Leader flipping a vanilla card instead of a modified one would help a lot. Seems like an easy fix.
This would make a Scorpion->Leech->Leader combo incredibly effective. They should just be whatever they were before they flipped

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foolm0r0n
01/29/23 9:47:49 PM
#62:


So I got a kamar-taj/wong/odin/ironheart combo which is 16 activations, but I didn't see the fast forward option. Do you need an even bigger combo for that?

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skullbone
01/29/23 10:29:00 PM
#63:


The only time I've seen the fast forward is when I Leader'd someone playing Odin and got 3 Odins in 1 lane. No idea how many triggers that ends up being.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 5:08:45 AM
#64:


Lamentis-1 making Death free is very stupid.

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WazzupGenius00
01/30/23 6:14:27 AM
#65:


I suspect that one will eventually change its wording to remove the decks and no longer affect Death. Even before that location existed they said that Yondus ability affecting Deaths cost was unintentional and will be changed at some point, and since this basically does the same thing I dont see why it would be different.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/30/23 8:36:12 AM
#66:


What a BS variant selection.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/6/AANZX9AAEIxu.jpg

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swordz9
01/30/23 8:51:42 AM
#67:


So I just got a Collectors Cache from collector level. Should I open it right away or wait? Id seen people suggest waiting to open them, but I cant remember why
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FFDragon
01/30/23 9:40:14 AM
#68:


If you wait until the patch tomorrow (Wednesday?) then your caches will have better chances at rarer cards, as the first series drop is happening.

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FFDragon
01/30/23 9:42:35 AM
#69:


The next scheduled Series Drop within Marvel Snap is set for January 31st 2023, and includes the following cards:

Series 5 to Series 4:
Super Skrull
Shuri
Black Panther
Valkyrie
Bast

The following cards are moving from Series 4 to Series 3:
She-Hulk
Absorbing Man
Titania
Luke Cage

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FFDragon
01/30/23 9:44:11 AM
#70:


And I think it's every 40 you get a series 4 or above guaranteed so it would suck to get like Luke cage now and waste that on what could be Shuri tomorrow

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RikkuAlmighty
01/30/23 9:46:19 AM
#71:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
What a BS variant selection.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/6/AANZX9AAEIxu.jpg
The elektra is fire tho

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IfGodCouldDie
01/30/23 9:47:56 AM
#72:


I actually really do like it, but I never use her at the moment so it isn't worth the 1200

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 9:48:41 AM
#73:


The Enchantress and Colossus are good too.

Thats a great Variant day tbh, try getting 4+ pixel variants in one day

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KommunistKoala
01/30/23 9:51:58 AM
#74:


not a fan of most of the chibis. they're not necessarily bad but i wouldn't consider it a good shop. Enchantress is one of the better chibis I've seen but she has at least one better variant

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LiquidOshawott
01/30/23 9:57:46 AM
#75:


I usually really like the Jacintos out of the variants

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IfGodCouldDie
01/30/23 10:00:58 AM
#76:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The Enchantress and Colossus are good too.

Thats a great Variant day tbh, try getting 4+ pixel variants in one day
I have been very tempted to just run a pixel variant deck but there are just much much better variants I want first.

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FFDragon
01/30/23 10:05:59 AM
#77:


I use pixel variants for troll cards (like Prof X) to inflict maximum emotional damage.

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Jakyl25
01/30/23 10:12:47 AM
#78:


FFDragon posted...
And I think it's every 40 you get a series 4 or above guaranteed so it would suck to get like Luke cage now and waste that on what could be Shuri tomorrow

Thats for Collectors Reserves above CL1000

Im not actually sure if you can get Series 4 or 5 from the Collectors Caches from 500-999

Its for sure a new card in 1 out of every 2 you open at that point, they might just all be Series 3? I know I did not open a Series 4 card until after 1000

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Jakyl25
01/30/23 10:16:54 AM
#79:


But yeah right now you might as well wait for the update to open any

Season Caches are fine, those wont change

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 10:25:38 AM
#80:


Im quite partial to the Luca Claretti variants.

Look at these, every one a banger:

https://snap.fan/cards/variants/Luca%20Claretti/

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Jakyl25
01/30/23 10:32:13 AM
#81:


The way they categorize variants is so weird

I saw a Black Bolt variant called a Shhhhh! Variant because he was shushing the viewer

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swordz9
01/30/23 10:44:56 AM
#82:


Noted, Ill hang on to whatever ones I get before then. I also noticed I can now pin a card, but where do I see how many tokens I have?
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Jakyl25
01/30/23 11:29:25 AM
#83:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAAOt_AAEIzE.jpg

Top right. I have 1600 here

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swordz9
01/30/23 11:42:49 AM
#84:


Oh, thanks. Id never seen anything pop up at all yet telling me Id gained/earned tokens so I wasnt sure. I pinned Rogue who might not be the best card to pin, but its Rogue so it was hard not to.
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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 12:00:09 PM
#85:


Rogue is underrated.

Shes so situational, but taking away their Patriot or Cerebro when their entire deck relies on it is beautiful.

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Jakyl25
01/30/23 12:06:37 PM
#86:


It just occurred to me from that post how Rogue and Mystique are connected thematically in the game. Thats cool

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WazzupGenius00
01/30/23 12:39:46 PM
#87:


One time with my Mr Negative deck I stole and then copied their Wong with those two and then used my Ironheart there, pretty funny

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 2:48:18 PM
#88:


I had a card on Turns 1, 3, and 4 get destroyed by Danger Room, they played Devil Dino turn 5 and it got destroyed and retreated immediately, lol.

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skullbone
01/30/23 2:52:24 PM
#89:


25% of the time it works every time

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/30/23 3:29:08 PM
#90:


Every time I play a card on Danger Room I do "I am confident."

And then if it succeeds I do the Ms. Marvel thumbs up.

And if it fails I do "ARRRRRGHHHH!"

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Lopen
01/30/23 6:07:21 PM
#91:


Finally hit Omega Rank with this wacky deck

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/2/AAAlMSAAEI2M.jpg

It seems like it shouldn't work but it's actually really effective whenever Collector or Quinjet are drawn early. Also the sheer volume of random cards means you might luck into a solution once in a while. I just won a game against White Tiger Wong Odin silliness by having Fury recruit Orka to drop a 14 power guy on the right lane to beat the Odin lane by itself for 4 cost. It's just a fun deck to play.

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01/30/23 8:49:14 PM
#92:


https://twitter.com/Glenn_Jones_/status/1620201649481617408?s=20&t=rLEPc5_8p6e7eJfVGawWew

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skullbone
01/30/23 8:53:06 PM
#93:


Damn I really didn't think they'd nerf Zabu immediately after his season pass ends. That's always a bad look when you nerf a card immediately after people can stop buying it.

I mean it's justified because Zabu is broken but it'll be lol if they nerf Surfer and Zabu into being useless after everyone just bought them.

The problem is I don't think you can nerf those cards very much without them becoming useless. Surfer to 4 energy And Zabu to 4 energy are my predictions.

Surfer still strong at 4 but you can't play three 3-drops on turn 6 with Sera now. But one less turn of Zabu shenanigans (and skipping turn 4 instead of turn 3) might make Zabu useless.

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RikkuAlmighty
01/30/23 9:05:19 PM
#94:


Zabu to 4 seems like too much. Nerf his power to 1 or even 0 instead.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 9:33:59 PM
#95:


Surfer to 4 energy would be so stupid, then he wont get his own benefit if you dupe him somehow!

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/30/23 9:36:07 PM
#96:


Zabu to 1 or 0 power does not fix the issue of why Zabu is strong.

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skullbone
01/30/23 9:40:34 PM
#97:


Yeah Zabu is one of those problem cards that just limits design space in the future. Not as much as Mr Negative but still pretty bad.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/30/23 10:11:27 PM
#98:


Tell me how the fuck I just played three matches in a row where their turn 6 was Cerebro + Mystique??

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KommunistKoala
01/30/23 10:11:45 PM
#99:


saw someone say make him on reveal instead of ongoing, seemed like an okay idea


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01/30/23 10:12:38 PM
#100:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/7/AANZX9AAEI5Z.jpg
Ice man and Arnim variants that I'm buying.

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