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Seanchan
06/30/22 1:54:25 PM
#201:


Someone remind me again what the magical political revolution is that's going to solve this problem?

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GuessMyUserName
06/30/22 1:56:55 PM
#202:


the sacred meteor

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xp1337
06/30/22 1:57:41 PM
#203:


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the sacred meteor
sephiroth did nothing wrong

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ChaosTonyV4
06/30/22 1:58:40 PM
#204:


Seanchan posted...
Someone remind me again what the magical political revolution is that's going to solve this problem?

What does this mean lol

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Corrik7
06/30/22 2:12:06 PM
#205:


xp1337 posted...
Speaking of absolute batshit court rulings... this is the Wisconsin Supreme Court:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/us/wisconsin-supreme-court-natural-resources-board.html

A Republican on WI's Natural Resources Board has his term expire in May 2021. The GOP legislature refuses to confirm any of Evers's nominations. Meanwhile the guy just hangs around in the position his term ended over a year ago and has all the powers of the position still, including a vote. And WI's Supreme Court ruled 4-3 on party lines, "Yeah, that's fine. He can stay and vote."

Or in their words:

Wisconsin's Supreme Court says...
Are there legitimate reasons why they are not confirming his nominations?

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Maniac64
06/30/22 2:14:08 PM
#206:


He is not nominating conservative Republicans.

And yeah that ruling is absurd. "Yes his time in the job ended and no one new has been put in place but that doesn't mean it's vacant." Yes, that is actually exactly what that means.

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Seanchan
06/30/22 2:16:56 PM
#207:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
What does this mean lol

Sorry, earlier in the topic I asked what are the odds of Civil War 2 (I said 2-3%) and the response was "you're crazy". Then someone said there'd be a non-violent political revolution that would happen to make things right. I asked what this would entail, and obviously got no response.

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masterplum
06/30/22 2:23:17 PM
#208:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/allezlesboulez/status/1542521932397961224?s=21&t=7e1H9iLwboz5Fd5xidlfrA

I give extremely good odds Kavanaugh and Roberts vote this unconstitutional.

They have been boring conservative and not crazy conservative fairly consistently

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xp1337
06/30/22 2:24:25 PM
#209:


masterplum posted...
I give extremely good odds Kavanaugh and Roberts vote this unconstitutional.
not sure you want to make that bet given Kavanaugh endorsed that theory during previous cases.

We know that Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh have written in favor of the "independent state legislature" theory in recent cases.

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swordz9
06/30/22 2:25:44 PM
#210:


Will probably 6-3 like the previous two and I wouldnt be surprised
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red sox 777
06/30/22 3:02:09 PM
#211:


masterplum posted...
I give extremely good odds Kavanaugh and Roberts vote this unconstitutional.

They have been boring conservative and not crazy conservative fairly consistently

I wouldn't. The Supreme Court has already approved this theory once - this was the basis of Bush v. Gore - that the federal constitution overrides the Florida constitution in giving the power to the legislature only.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/30/22 3:07:32 PM
#212:


Seanchan posted...
Sorry, earlier in the topic I asked what are the odds of Civil War 2 (I said 2-3%) and the response was "you're crazy". Then someone said there'd be a non-violent political revolution that would happen to make things right. I asked what this would entail, and obviously got no response.

Who was talking about a nonviolent revolution? I think at this point, barring some change, it is inevitable we will encounter large-scale political violence within our lifetimes (given that we already see an uptick of it on the right), but "Civil War 2" is a bit hyperbolic. Whether the violence is gonna be revolutionary or just domestic terrorism I don't really know, but I don't see how you get to a war between states when control over the federal military would be the decisive factor.

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red sox 777
06/30/22 3:12:59 PM
#213:


Also, it's kind of an interesting theoretical question. What if, let's say, a state amended its constitution to deny redistricting powers to its legislature. Say, the new state constitution created an independent commission to draw the districts. That body could be elected, or not, but in either case, its authority would flow directly from the new state constitution rather than any act of the legislature.

In that case, the new state constitution would appear to be on its face directly in contradiction to the federal constitution, which says that the districts are to be drawn by the legislature.

Hypo 2: The new state constitution anticipates this problem, and names the new election district commission "the Legislature." However, it is not given any of the normal legislative tasks. Will that pass federal constitutional muster?

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LinkMarioSamus
06/30/22 4:14:15 PM
#214:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Rendering the planet uninhabitable by humans to own the libs.

Given how much they hate the libs they probably just want to take them down with themselves.

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LordoftheMorons
06/30/22 5:08:54 PM
#215:


Wow, 538 actually has the Senate as a tossup:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/

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red sox 777
06/30/22 5:16:48 PM
#216:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Wow, 538 actually has the Senate as a tossup:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/

Huh. If only Trump didn't push his fraudulent fraud claims, the Rs would already have a majority. The Rs should have a big natural advantage in the Senate but for whatever reason, it's been remarkably hard to convert that into a long enduring majority.

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LordoftheMorons
06/30/22 5:23:32 PM
#217:


The GOP has also nominated some really shitty candidates in competitive seats this cycle

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Suprak the Stud
06/30/22 5:29:07 PM
#218:


How dare you suggest Herschel "I played Russian Roulette six times" Walker is a shitty candidate.

And he still is a complete toss-up to win! That's the crazy thing for how bad this cycle is likely to be.

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red sox 777
06/30/22 5:32:28 PM
#219:


I think we should have a constitutional amendment to cap the number of justices on SCOTUS at 9. We can also have a minimum at 3 - if the number falls below that and the Senate refuses to confirm a nominee, then the President can choose any duly confirmed federal judge to fill the seat without further confirmation to SCOTUS. If the President refuses to nominate anyone or to choose an existing federal judge after the Senate rejects his nomination, the Senate can choose an existing federal judge.

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LordoftheMorons
06/30/22 5:32:47 PM
#220:


Thread on WV v EPA:

https://twitter.com/jessejenkins/status/1542545048218152960?s=21

So I guess they thankfully didnt actually kill Chevron (basically the ruling still sucks, but could have been much worse).

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red sox 777
06/30/22 5:34:33 PM
#221:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Thread on WV v EPA:

https://twitter.com/jessejenkins/status/1542545048218152960?s=21

So I guess they thankfully didnt actually kill Chevron (basically the ruling still sucks, but could have been much worse).

They ignored it completely. I didn't want to read the whole thing so I just did ctrl+f for the word "Chevron" and it only came up once in the whole majority opinion, and that only as an indirect reference. The second time it appeared in the document was already in the dissent.

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Dancedreamer
06/30/22 9:00:43 PM
#222:


Oh look, another terrible ruling with a 6-3 ruling. Gee who would've thought. It's pretty clear the conservative justices have an ideological leaning that affects their decision making. They should all be removed.

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NFUN
06/30/22 9:08:21 PM
#223:


its pretty clear th lieberal justices have an idealogical leaning that effects there decision making they shuld be removed

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ChaosTonyV4
06/30/22 9:16:24 PM
#224:


https://twitter.com/yurirando/status/1542350934017118208?s=21&t=jwK6R5KWGAnBg-f2ZPoq9g

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masterplum
06/30/22 9:34:04 PM
#225:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/yurirando/status/1542350934017118208?s=21&t=jwK6R5KWGAnBg-f2ZPoq9g

Honestly, assuming Biden doesn't run for reelection, which seems entirely plausible considering his age, distancing himself from the rest of the party honestly doesn't seem like a bad strategy.

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xp1337
06/30/22 9:38:00 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1542639731971829762

Civil War chapter in Texas textbooks (and therefore a good chunk of the country's given how publishers operate) are going to be even more of a trip to read.

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FFDragon
06/30/22 10:07:33 PM
#227:


Involuntary relocation sounds like you parked in front of a fire hydrant and got towed

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ChaosTonyV4
06/30/22 10:28:49 PM
#228:


https://twitter.com/who_shot_jgr/status/1542667166260121603?s=21&t=jwK6R5KWGAnBg-f2ZPoq9g

Ok look, even for Mayor Pete this is insane.

Exactly what aspect of American infrastructure can any modern country learn from?

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xp1337
06/30/22 10:36:19 PM
#229:


what not to do

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GuessMyUserName
06/30/22 10:44:53 PM
#230:


what in the absolute world

like it absolutely astounds me that literally any singular human being could think of that idea

just

what

is this one of those things where everyone involved is just watching Homeland 24/7 thinking the world outside US is all in ruins

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TheRock1525
06/30/22 11:11:34 PM
#231:


FFDragon posted...
Involuntary relocation sounds like you parked in front of a fire hydrant and got towed

Behold, the group that preceded the Incel.

The Inrels!

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/22 12:42:36 AM
#232:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/who_shot_jgr/status/1542667166260121603?s=21&t=jwK6R5KWGAnBg-f2ZPoq9g

Ok look, even for Mayor Pete this is insane.

Exactly what aspect of American infrastructure can any modern country learn from?

the conspiracy theory that the Biden admin is getting revenge by giving Harris and Pete terrible jobs that destroy their credibility is getting more plausible

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ChaosTonyV4
07/01/22 2:25:26 AM
#233:


How do you defeat a TV host with a cult?

A radio host with Bradley Cooper as VP, lol.

https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1542482449011286017?s=21&t=DBb__WKJ4ldS_fXzHhkegg


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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/22 5:13:52 AM
#234:


So censorship is okay when conservatives do it.

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Maniac64
07/01/22 9:31:05 AM
#235:


xp1337 posted...
Civil War chapter in Texas textbooks
You mean the War of Northern Aggression chapter.

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AriaOfBolo
07/01/22 10:03:07 AM
#236:


the Recent Unpleasantries

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/01/22 6:47:46 PM
#237:


Remember when everyone was celebrating Kamala Harris being VP?

https://twitter.com/Charalanahzard/status/1542998737248694273?t=6zTd0KwS7WL6edeeWmH_Lw&s=19

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ChaosTonyV4
07/01/22 6:56:35 PM
#238:


Its kind of incredible how not up for the task either of them are.

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Xeybozn
07/01/22 7:31:42 PM
#239:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Remember when everyone was celebrating Kamala Harris being VP?

Actually, I don't?

I do vaguely remember people on the left being excited about a female person of color becoming VP, but Kamala Harris in particular? Doesn't ring a bell.

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DoomTheGyarados
07/01/22 7:34:38 PM
#240:


Xeybozn posted...
Actually, I don't?

I do vaguely remember people on the left being excited about a female person of color becoming VP, but Kamala Harris in particular? Doesn't ring a bell.

Not a single person on the left gives a fuck about that when many other things are at issue.

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Kenri
07/01/22 7:42:06 PM
#241:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Remember when everyone was celebrating Kamala Harris being VP?
Uh, I remember the absolute opposite of this.

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NFUN
07/01/22 7:49:16 PM
#242:


Kenri posted...
Uh, I remember the absolute opposite of this.


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Leafeon13N
07/01/22 7:49:41 PM
#243:


Kamala was literally just the completely boring pick that would excite/anger the least amount of people while fulfilling woman/minority requirement.
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/01/22 7:57:48 PM
#244:


Iirc not so much people here celebrating her because we're a little more plugged in, but there were a distinct number of left-leaning folks yas queening over her and talking about her timbs and how she was a cool VP.

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Inviso
07/01/22 7:59:15 PM
#245:


Yeah, I feel like most people knew she was kind of a token choice, and any love people might've had for her was kinda washed away with the whole "I'm calling you a racist, Joe" -> "It was just a debate, it wasn't real" debacle.

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AriaOfBolo
07/01/22 8:05:06 PM
#246:


My main memory of the response was hearing coworkers talk about how the libs didn't like her much so maybe she wasn't so bad

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GuessMyUserName
07/01/22 8:15:54 PM
#247:


left-leaning as like generic liberal/democrat sure but they're pretty disinterested in politics and aren't gonna care about some goofy 30 second redundant speech clip

although typing that sentence out now... who even does care about it, that's gotta be one of the most innocuous clips I've seen this year

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/22 8:57:21 PM
#248:


I mean people were "excited" for and "celebrating" Biden too, I don't think Harris is any different from that. And I also don't even think this is something uniquely bad with her as a VP pick, the ENTIRE Biden admin is asleep at the wheel and no one there seems to give a shit at all.

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swordz9
07/01/22 9:02:40 PM
#249:


A fair amount were just happy to be rid of Orange Hitler
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PerfectChaosZ
07/02/22 4:06:25 AM
#250:


I remember more people being mad that Biden picked basically a cop in the age of rampant cop violence
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