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Inviso 06/28/22 4:15:25 PM #151: |
Seanchan posted... It's a bit of a chicken and egg but if the politicians actually got punished it would very likely sway opinions that what happened was actually dishonest/illegal. Without punishment, people think "well...I guess it's fine then". I think part of the problem is that a lot of the punishment is supposed to come from voters seeing this and saying "Wow, those people are criminals and I'm going to turn out and vote against them at every possible opportunity". As it stands though, we have a political system where 50% of the politicians have no reason to stand up for what's right and just, since they know they're going to receive no backlash from the voters in the general election. In fact, they're only likely to be punished during the primaries, so why risk that? Don't get me wrong, there should be legal consequences too, and hopefully the DoJ is working on that...but these committees are kinda restrained by the fact that half the country's electorate aggressively votes against what the committee stands for and absolutely wants to see no punishment, except for the people running the committee in the first place. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dancedreamer 06/28/22 4:17:31 PM #152: |
swordz9 posted... All this evidence and America being America will probably do not a damn thing to any of the politicians involved even though they all deserve at minimum to be removed from power forever They deserve at minimum to go to jail for a very long time. We put people in jail for far lesser offenses. If they don't pay the consequences, they'll keep doing it. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/28/22 4:19:27 PM #153: |
Oh I know jail would be best, but it also feels incredibly unrealistic since Im expecting absolutely nothing out of this altogether. They could have Trump on film chanting to hang Pence and decapitate Pelosi and nothing would happen since America is a joke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/28/22 4:25:12 PM #154: |
No human deserves jail --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/28/22 4:26:29 PM #155: |
https://twitter.com/richluchette/status/1541873553930338308?s=21&t=fqu8VzShYBQJs5HyQa7Tmg --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/28/22 4:37:05 PM #156: |
Instead of prison maybe we should just have Trump and friends be forced to live the American Dream of working 2-3 minimum wage jobs and still be drowning while also not allowing them to receive any outside money from anyone at all since they dont believe in handouts. Watching Trump have to work at Walmart the remainder of his days would be something ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 06/28/22 4:56:08 PM #157: |
Jakyl25 posted... No human deserves jail Harvey Weinstein. On a side note, uh we're back in the time where we're finding out so many facets of just how monstrous Trump really is even though he's not even POTUS. Yikes. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/28/22 5:01:06 PM #158: |
Speaking of people who deserve imprisonment https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/us/ghislaine-maxwell-sentencing/index.html --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/28/22 5:25:24 PM #159: |
Only 20 huh. God knows how many poor kids were sex trafficked in that awful shit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 06/28/22 6:03:45 PM #160: |
Jakyl25 posted... No human deserves jail In the sense that the US prison system is inhumane and we need to fix that, or in the sense that no criminals should ever be confined to prevent them from committing more crimes? --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 06/28/22 6:10:49 PM #161: |
Xeybozn posted... In the sense that the US prison system is inhumane and we need to fix that, or in the sense that no criminals should ever be confined to prevent them from committing more crimes? Some criminals must be confined, but they dont deserve it. Its just the only way to maintain society in some rare cases. Imprisonment should never be punitive. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 06/28/22 11:20:27 PM #162: |
states ain't wastin' much time are they --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Now with no spaces! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 06/28/22 11:23:30 PM #163: |
AriaOfBolo posted... states ain't wastin' much time are theynope https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1541780580752363520 --- May you find your book in this place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/28/22 11:59:23 PM #164: |
xp1337 posted... nope LordoftheMorons posted... Speaking of people who deserve imprisonment --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 06/29/22 12:11:52 AM #165: |
man people who want to straight up make gay sex illegal are so fucked up just pointlessly cruel shitheads --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 06/29/22 12:52:22 AM #166: |
TBC the reason he deserves to go to jail is the influence peddling, but wow what a piece of shit for this too --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 06/29/22 1:39:42 PM #167: |
Welcome to post-Roe America. https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1542163468039720962 https://twitter.com/JoshSweigart/status/1541742486330163200 --- May you find your book in this place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 06/29/22 2:38:08 PM #168: |
I don't have the stories handy but I'm also seeing stories of denial of care for unrelated things because the meds involved could be tied to potential miscarriages --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Now with no spaces! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/30/22 12:27:16 AM #169: |
Joe Rogan says DeSantis would make a good president, and what he's done in Florida is "admirable." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/30/22 1:02:16 AM #170: |
--- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 06/30/22 1:02:54 AM #171: |
lmao --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 06/30/22 5:06:07 AM #172: |
Uh survival of the fittest? --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/30/22 5:36:44 AM #173: |
Biden is happy with the Supreme Court ruling on Roe, if you ask me. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 06/30/22 7:28:49 AM #174: |
he indeed doesn't seem too fired up about it and it does line up with his voting record --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Now with no spaces! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 06/30/22 7:56:19 AM #175: |
On Instagram he seems like he has condemned it at every turn though. For that matter, what the heck CAN he do anyway? I'm glad we have a President who has the slightest clue what he's doing but uh. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/30/22 8:37:58 AM #176: |
LinkMarioSamus posted... On Instagram he seems like he has condemned it at every turn though.He just nominated an anti-abortion judge to the federal court after it. And, he drums up voting support for Democrars that might save his second term by it happening. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 06/30/22 9:15:04 AM #177: |
Only if people think he might do something about it, though. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/30/22 10:18:23 AM #178: |
They fucking did it. We are so utterly fucked, and voting cant fix this. https://twitter.com/scotusblog/status/1542509020891598848?s=21&t=7e1H9iLwboz5Fd5xidlfrA --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/30/22 10:28:35 AM #179: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted... They fucking did it. https://mobile.twitter.com/gilbeaq/status/1542509969114664960 --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 06/30/22 10:31:13 AM #180: |
The US Supreme Court dooming humanity. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 06/30/22 10:38:36 AM #181: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted... They fucking did it.Rendering the planet uninhabitable by humans to own the libs. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zylothewolf 06/30/22 10:57:15 AM #182: |
So now Sweden and Finland has been accepted to join Nato, and Biden called our Minister of State for the leader of Switzerland. Seriously I know his opponent was Trump, but how did this senile old fool become the president of the USA? Didnt the Democrats have anyone better? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Azuarc >Me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 06/30/22 11:04:46 AM #183: |
buckle up because the only decent options we had last time won't be running for the next primary the gen x pool of dem candidates are depressing --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/30/22 11:07:06 AM #184: |
The world wont last long enough for us to have any good options for leadership so no worries guys! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 06/30/22 11:21:41 AM #185: |
GuessMyUserName posted... buckle up because the only decent options we had last time won't be running for the next primary Assuming Biden runs again (and it looks like he will), the next competitive Dem primary isn't until 2028. That's plenty of time for new potential candidates to rise. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/30/22 11:23:37 AM #186: |
Big if true https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/warnock-holds-double-digit-lead-walker-new-poll-finds-rcna35985 --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/30/22 11:25:17 AM #187: |
That combined with Oz being down in Pennsylvania might indicate Bidens terrible approval rating ... might just mean people don't like Biden. If Biden becomes a scapegoat it could help dems avoid a November reaction vote --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/30/22 11:44:53 AM #188: |
I dont know if we can read too much into those specific two races (yet), Fetterman and Warnock are both extremely likeable. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 06/30/22 11:45:23 AM #189: |
Zylothewolf posted... So now Sweden and Finland has been accepted to join Nato, and Biden called our Minister of State for the leader of Switzerland. At least that just sounds like garden-variety misnaming instead of something more intentionally malicious. I still say Biden's approval rating means jack all and is only as low as it is because conservatives hate him on principle while more progressive Democrats aren't satisfied with Biden. TBH who is though? He just seems like an elderly Obama at this point (I also wanted to say 'white Obama' but I get the feeling someone might find that racist). Uh oh? The reason I used to keep saying that conservatives are stuck in 2016 is because of how Trump campaigned as if nothing had changed since then, even continuing to make Obama his primary target. I'm still amazed Roe v. Wade got struck down in a post-metoo world, though maybe that doesn't have as much reach as I think it does. This is what happens when you follow so many celebrities on Instagram. (it was also partially because of anti-progressives' favorite boogeymen being mostly relevant around 2016, but not completely on topic) --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suprak the Stud 06/30/22 12:04:50 PM #190: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted... I dont know if we can read too much into those specific two races (yet), Fetterman and Warnock are both extremely likeable. ^ Theres a pretty easy path for dems to win both these seats and still wind up -2 in the senate. Fetterman and Warnock are two of the dems strongest candidates this cycle and theyre going against two of the worst candidates this cycle and its still close in both. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 06/30/22 12:11:20 PM #191: |
Suprak the Stud posted... Theres a pretty easy path for dems to win both these seats and still wind up -2 in the senate. That'd be the Dems not winning other new seats while the GOP flips Arizona, Nevada, and... New Hampshire? It'd be great if there were more polls for those races. Shame the primaries are so late in those states. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suprak the Stud 06/30/22 12:13:24 PM #192: |
Yeah NH is the other one 538 has super close just based on past history/economic factors/all non polling data they use to model their forecast. Like you said though, for some reason some of these races have like zero credible polling. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RaidenGarai 06/30/22 12:13:28 PM #193: |
I'd like to think Ron Johnson will be out too, but people suck. --- https://www.twitch.tv/zerothe14th ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 06/30/22 12:23:50 PM #194: |
Ron Johnson losing isn't impossible, it's just a) very unlikely and b) probably not important for deciding Senate control. (If he loses, that probably means the national environment isn't great for the GOP in general. Which also means that the Democrats are probably winning other seats that are more competitive.) --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 06/30/22 12:43:17 PM #195: |
https://twitter.com/allezlesboulez/status/1542521932397961224?s=21&t=7e1H9iLwboz5Fd5xidlfrA --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 06/30/22 1:03:26 PM #196: |
"coequal branches" actually nah --- May you find your book in this place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/30/22 1:06:33 PM #197: |
Good thing theyre keeping people so poor or Americans might be leaving this country in droves if more gross stuff passes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 06/30/22 1:18:19 PM #198: |
Speaking of absolute batshit court rulings... this is the Wisconsin Supreme Court: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/us/wisconsin-supreme-court-natural-resources-board.html A Republican on WI's Natural Resources Board has his term expire in May 2021. The GOP legislature refuses to confirm any of Evers's nominations. Meanwhile the guy just hangs around in the position his term ended over a year ago and has all the powers of the position still, including a vote. And WI's Supreme Court ruled 4-3 on party lines, "Yeah, that's fine. He can stay and vote." Or in their words: Wisconsin's Supreme Court says... It is undoubtedly true that Prehn serves a defined term of office, and it is accepted that Prehn's term expired in May 2021. However, those realities say nothing about whether there is now a "vacancy" in Prehn's DNR position. --- May you find your book in this place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerfectChaosZ 06/30/22 1:49:40 PM #199: |
They can just do whatever they want. I really don't know what we're supposed to do but continue to watch it spiral. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/30/22 1:53:47 PM #200: |
Full scale revolution is the only sure way to get real changes. Unless something of that scale happens I wouldnt count on anything huge swinging in a positive way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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