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ExThaNemesis
03/22/22 1:16:57 PM
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Oda is the greatest of all time.

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ninkendo
03/22/22 1:31:12 PM
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I'll Joy your Boy

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Sorozone
03/22/22 1:49:30 PM
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Cant wait for the release in all of its glory.

Shanks is now a wild card too because of the implication.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/22/22 1:56:35 PM
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That smile

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Pokalicious
03/22/22 2:07:17 PM
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I don't watch or read One Piece, but I sometimes keep up with manga stuff.

Someone please spoiler me.

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Sorozone
03/22/22 2:14:00 PM
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Pokalicious posted...
I don't watch or read One Piece, but I sometimes keep up with manga stuff.

Someone please spoiler me.

Luffy's devil fruit is actually a mythical zoan type human-human-Nika. His fruit awakens in this chapter and then apparently beats the shit out of Kaidou

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Maniac64
03/22/22 4:59:13 PM
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I dont love this twist even though it was a common theory. It just feels like it retcons so much and I hope it ends up actually making sense with the past and this was always the plan.

Like how does that work with what we have seen to this point? If he is zoan then is his "normal" rubber self actually a hybrid form and he just hasnt changed in like 12 years? I mean admittedly the normal Human Human fruit also doesnt seem to work right so maybe that fruit type is just messed up.

personally I was hoping it would be revealed to be a Logia type and we would see our first Logia Awakening. With a liquid rubber power-up.

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Sorozone
03/22/22 5:28:06 PM
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I think we won't fully understand it until a few more chapters in. Right now based on the spoilers, it was obviously foreshadowed enough that it makes some sense.

I think the sticking point for most people is how or what his power is now, and this chapter probably won't delve too much into it. Obviously since Nika is a god in the One Piece world no one quite understands what exactly this power up is, where all other mythical zoans are based on real life mythicals/gods. I know people don't like going the Sun Wakong parallel's, but it seems like that is who Nika is supposed to be based off of.

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pjbasis
03/22/22 5:28:13 PM
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can we not talk about this? tryna avoid spoilers until the official release


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scarletspeed7
03/22/22 5:44:20 PM
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Then don't click a topic called spoilers or the spoiler tags within it.

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Lightning Strikes
03/22/22 5:51:06 PM
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Im also in team this sounds bad but I havent followed One Piece for a very long time.

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Maniac64
03/22/22 6:26:55 PM
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Can we also reveal that Chopper's fruit is actually the mythical zoan human-human Sasquatch fruit? Cause that would definitely make more sense than what it is now.

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Maniac64
03/22/22 6:30:12 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
Im also in team this sounds bad but I havent followed One Piece for a very long time.
I will say this arc has had a lot of foreshadowing for it. It just feels like it could be something he came up with when he started writing Wano.

Similar to how Vivi's arc was created because he realized her character looked like a princess with her hair down while writing reverse mountain.

I am hoping that is not the case and this was the plan since at least Marineford.

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pjbasis
03/22/22 7:14:19 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Then don't click a topic called spoilers or the spoiler tags within it.

Wish I read this before clicking on the topic again

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changmas
03/22/22 7:25:05 PM
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Maniac64 posted...
I dont love this twist even though it was a common theory. It just feels like it retcons so much and I hope it ends up actually making sense with the past and this was always the plan.

Like how does that work with what we have seen to this point? If he is zoan then is his "normal" rubber self actually a hybrid form and he just hasnt changed in like 12 years? I mean admittedly the normal Human Human fruit also doesnt seem to work right so maybe that fruit type is just messed up.

personally I was hoping it would be revealed to be a Logia type and we would see our first Logia Awakening. With a liquid rubber power-up.

I wonder if Sengoku is able to turn his 'normal human' form into gold. That's the only other person whose fruit could really act the same way. Of course gold probably has significantly fewer use cases than rubber, though.


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Zigzagoon
03/22/22 7:28:28 PM
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Has Chopper done anything in the last 200 eps / chapters or am I good to keep putting this on backlog?

And by anything I mean back when he did cool stuff like in Skypeia and Enis Lobby.

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changmas
03/22/22 7:29:51 PM
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Oh also Marco can turn himself into fire / flames of the phoenix. So it's not totally unprecedented for a mythical zoan to have some paramecium type properties. Although that's an active ability not a passive one like Luffy.

There's also a lot of foreshadowing for this from Skypeia. Luffy's silhouette while he's dancing around the fire matches the Nika silhouette shown in Wano and he's dancing the beat of the drums (which have the same 'sound marks' as the drums of liberation.

Plus just in general, we've never really seen another paramecium fruit that allows the user to have fundamentally different forms, so it really does track for him to actually have a zoan.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/22/22 7:31:24 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
Has Chopper done anything in the last 200 eps / chapters or am I good to keep putting this on backlog?

And by anything I mean back when he did cool stuff like in Skypeia and Enis Lobby.

Chopper had a great moment last year

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changmas
03/22/22 7:32:57 PM
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Chopper has one big moment in Wano that I can think of

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KamikazePotato
03/22/22 7:34:54 PM
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One Piece doesn't feel like a series you should be reading for the sake of one or two characters. It's a huge ensemble cast with an expansive world.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/22/22 7:39:58 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
One Piece doesn't feel like a series you should be reading for the sake of one or two characters. It's a huge ensemble cast with an expansive world.

Luffy never fails to deliver tbh

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Zigzagoon
03/22/22 7:41:14 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
One Piece doesn't feel like a series you should be reading for the sake of one or two characters. It's a huge ensemble cast with an expansive world.

Well, I never did the Manga, just watched the show. But it was nice when other characters not named Luffy, Zoro and Sanji actually got to do relevant things and actually felt important. Yeah, I care about Chopper the most, but Enis Lobby had so many awesome moments for every character and I feel like it was never really captured again. I stopped after Whole Cake Arc and Chopper was FEATURED in that one, he just didn't do anything. So like... I don't think it's going to get any better in that regard.

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pjbasis
03/22/22 7:45:48 PM
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I think it's fair to say that the straw hats were clearly main characters of the first half. They've taken a major backseat in the second half besides like Luffy and Sanji during Whole cake.

Depends on how invested you are in the crew vs the larger plot if that's good or bad.

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Zigzagoon
03/22/22 7:47:11 PM
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Yeah, most of the crew definitely don't feel like main characters anymore is probably the biggest issue. I grew attached to a lot of them and it feels like they've been just written badly now and thrown to the side for MAH ULTRA STRONG END GAME CHARACTERS for Luffy to be put up against, etc.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/22/22 7:52:47 PM
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I just can't believe this is still in Wano.

I've been telling myself for years that I'll get back into OP once I can steamroll through Wano because I wasn't digging the arc at all (read up through Luffy escaping from from "jail" after getting one shot, and basically didn't care about anything from the entire arc between the start and that), but I never imagined it would go on this long.

The same thing happened with Dressrosa. I thought that arc was terrible so I waited until it was over so I could just slam it out.

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Zigzagoon
03/22/22 8:19:28 PM
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I think Dressrosa tired me out as well. That was just too much lol

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Maniac64
03/22/22 8:34:43 PM
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I will say Chopper has been doing some serious doctoring in Wano. And the other strawhats have all had some fun moments in this big battle. But yeah the big 3 are defintiely still treated as the most important.

changmas posted...
I wonder if Sengoku is able to turn his 'normal human' form into gold. That's the only other person whose fruit could really act the same way. Of course gold probably has significantly fewer use cases than rubber, though.
but Luffy doesn't turn into rubber, he is always rubber. He doesnt activate it and he hasnt shown to be able to turn it off. Its always worked more like a Logia than a paramecia or zoan. I'm just curious if there will be a good explanation or if it will just be act differently for no reason like Chopper's.

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/22 8:39:13 PM
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The only thing that is gonna need some serious explaining is the Enel fight.

Also guys I love the rest of the cast too but Luffy always been the main character.

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Maniac64
03/22/22 9:00:02 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
The only thing that is gonna need some serious explaining is the Enel fight.
I mean he has to still be rubber at least.

but hey maybe this will mean the end of the Luffy is killing himself with Gear 2nd theory. Since now Lucci had no idea what he was talking about when he said what Luffys limits are and his real power can heal him.

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Pirateking2000
03/22/22 9:00:11 PM
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He has done it. He has finally unlocked the power of Popeye

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ninkendo
03/22/22 11:39:00 PM
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Even after sleeping on it I still have a hard time processing this information

Almost want to do a full series rewatch with this knowledge in mind

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ninkendo
03/23/22 12:12:50 AM
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But really only oda could completely change what Luffy's Devil Fruit ability is this late into the story and have it make complete sense. WTF he's not a rubber man he's a cartoon man

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ninkendo
03/23/22 2:43:49 AM
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Okay yeah that makes more sense

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ninkendo
03/23/22 2:57:57 AM
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And this guy pretty much predicted the whole thing 2 months ago he only got the name wrong

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/s4qc40/luffy_didnt_eat_gomu_gomu_no_mi_chapter_1037/

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KamikazePotato
03/23/22 3:27:29 AM
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ninkendo posted...
And this guy pretty much predicted the whole thing 2 months ago he only got the name wrong

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/s4qc40/luffy_didnt_eat_gomu_gomu_no_mi_chapter_1037/
lmao everyone in the thread is shitting on him

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Sorozone
03/24/22 11:47:53 PM
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So with the unofficial scans coming out now, I think I'm happy with this result.

It does make the WG look like complete idiots though, because if they knew it so dangerous Luffy should have been sought after as soon as that information was known, but I'll let that slide just because it's an absurd powerup.

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 12:14:24 AM
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Sorozone posted...
So with the unofficial scans coming out now, I think I'm happy with this result.

It does make the WG look like complete idiots though, because if they knew it so dangerous Luffy should have been sought after as soon as that information was known, but I'll let that slide just because it's an absurd powerup.

It now makes sense that Shanks and his crew were in some remote far off part of East Blue after stealing the thing. The only way it makes sense from a World Government perspective is that if they didn't know Shanks and Luffy came into contact, they probably believe Luffy had the legit Gomu Gomu no Mi. Though I think they should've probably been curious after Enies Lobby when he was fully on their radar. Still, it's a tremendous oversight for them to not consider Luffy was rocking this fruit until THIS FAR into the story.

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changmas
03/25/22 12:17:39 AM
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Sorozone posted...
So with the unofficial scans coming out now, I think I'm happy with this result.

It does make the WG look like complete idiots though, because if they knew it so dangerous Luffy should have been sought after as soon as that information was known, but I'll let that slide just because it's an absurd powerup.

Well....we've seen Shanks meet with the Gorosei before. there could be something we don't know, like maybe they intentionally wanted Luffy to awaken the fruit and sent the CP0 to unknowingly carry that out. could be that joy boy / nika's return is necessary for some ulterior motive

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changmas
03/25/22 12:19:08 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
It now makes sense that Shanks and his crew were in some remote far off part of East Blue after stealing the thing. The only way it makes sense from a World Government perspective is that if they didn't know Shanks and Luffy came into contact, they probably believe Luffy had the legit Gomu Gomu no Mi. Though I think they should've probably been curious after Enies Lobby when he was fully on their radar. Still, it's a tremendous oversight for them to not consider Luffy was rocking this fruit until THIS FAR into the story.

my understanding is there is no "legit gomu gomu no mi". there is only the hito hito no mi model nika, which is known to everyone else as the gomu gomu no mi.

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GranzonEx
03/25/22 12:31:23 AM
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So for the people that don't know.

Nika is probably based on Sun Wukong. The last panel with Luffy's eyebrows is the exact design of the golden headband that was used to control Sun Wukong in Journey to the West. Wukong can change size at will, can clone himself, and is pretty much immune to everything other than Buddha reciting sutras.

Oda is a true Toriyama fan LOL

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DoomTheGyarados
03/25/22 12:37:16 AM
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Keep in mind luffy had been on the radar for a long time, actually.

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hombad46
03/25/22 12:58:57 AM
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Maniac64 posted...
but Luffy doesn't turn into rubber, he is always rubber. He doesnt activate it and he hasnt shown to be able to turn it off. Its always worked more like a Logia than a paramecia or zoan. I'm just curious if there will be a good explanation or if it will just be act differently for no reason like Chopper's.

Logias aren't always their element either, it's just that most of the ones we've seen so far have trained themselves to reflexively turn into their element on impact.

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 1:00:06 AM
#43:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Keep in mind luffy had been on the radar for a long time, actually.

Which makes it even more head-scratching that this comes as a big surprise to anyone in the know.

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 1:00:57 AM
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Can I just say how fucking GREAT it is that we're this far into One Piece and we get to have this discussion. There's still all this mystery surrounding a core element of the MAIN FUCKIN CHARACTER

Oda too good. Ur fav could never

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DoomTheGyarados
03/25/22 1:01:38 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Which makes it even more head-scratching that this comes as a big surprise to anyone in the know.

1037 they thought this awakening was a myth btw. It was only recently that shanks told them. But Im had luffys picture sooo

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 1:06:49 AM
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I haven't really read thoroughly but if they knew this young upstart was causing all these problems and his power was similar to this fruit that they REALLY WANTED nailed down, it tracks that ESPECIALLY after Enies Lobby they should've tried to get him taken care of but

you know what, it tracks that an arrogant government would keep overlooking a problem until it became far too serious. ours does it all the time

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DoomTheGyarados
03/25/22 1:11:59 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
I haven't really read thoroughly but if they knew this young upstart was causing all these problems and his power was similar to this fruit that they REALLY WANTED nailed down, it tracks that ESPECIALLY after Enies Lobby they should've tried to get him taken care of but

you know what, it tracks that an arrogant government would keep overlooking a problem until it became far too serious. ours does it all the time

Real Talk they tried to kill Luffy in TB but Kuma was like 'lol nope' then Marineford three different admirals, their top tiers, tried to swing at Luffy but they missed. Then Luffy was protected by THE DARK KING for two years. Fishman Island isn't on their radar really and after that you had the wrong admiral in Doffy's arc because he cared about justice. Then he was at Big Mom's house.

Like.. they tried when they could

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 1:12:58 AM
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the only evidence I have that there's a God is that of all the times I could've been born, I was born while One Piece was being written

I seriously can't believe there are people out there who refuse to read the greatest adventure story ever told.

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ExThaNemesis
03/25/22 1:15:52 AM
#49:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Real Talk they tried to kill Luffy in TB but Kuma was like 'lol nope' then Marineford three different admirals, their top tiers, tried to swing at Luffy but they missed. Then Luffy was protected by THE DARK KING for two years. Fishman Island isn't on their radar really and after that you had the wrong admiral in Doffy's arc because he cared about justice. Then he was at Big Mom's house.

Like.. they tried when they could

LMAO he literally broke into their house in Impel Down. They had him under their fuckin nose and couldn't grab his ass.

I feel like there was too much going on at Marineford for them to give Luffy the attention he deserved, and their reach in the New World is severely limited by the powerhouses sailing around out there.

Their best shot was in Saobody. Thank goodness for Kuma and Rayleigh.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/25/22 1:17:05 AM
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Yeah keep in mind like Luffy actually has been targeted by the WG a lot it just is... he got bailed out

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