Poll of the Day > Why are people who are vaccinated the most worried about rising COVID numbers?

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PPPPLAASSUMA 08/08/21 3:48:21 PM #202:	Letting the virus do its thing let's it mutate when it's best to let it die by not letting it spread whatsoever. --- http://tinyurl.com/myofwa4 Mystical Ninja64 fan! <cite>PPPPLAASSUMA posted [p:956897477] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Letting the virus do its thing let's it mutate when it's best to let it die by not letting it spread whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/08/21 6:45:49 PM #203:	PPPPLAASSUMA posted... Letting the virus do its thing let's it mutate when it's best to let it die by not letting it spread whatsoever. It's something we will have to learn to live with. Like other viruses. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:956902176] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>PPPPLAASSUMA posted... </cite> <quote>Letting the virus do its thing let's it mutate when it's best to let it die by not letting it spread whatsoever.</quote>It's something we will have to learn to live with. Like other viruses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 08/08/21 7:48:36 PM #204:	So the flu has been virtually non existent the past year, anyone want to hazard a guess why? I'll give you a hint, it start with a "M" and ends with "asking" All the more reason for a universal mask mandate until the pan corona vaccine can be developed. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:956903935] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>So the flu has been virtually non existent the past year, anyone want to hazard a guess why? I'll give you a hint, it start with a "M" and ends with "asking" All the more reason for a universal mask mandate until the pan corona vaccine can be developed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 08/08/21 7:57:51 PM #205:	multitasking --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:956904165] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>multitasking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/08/21 8:17:54 PM #206:	wwinterj25 posted... It's something we will have to learn to live with. Like other viruses. Or, instead of giving up like like a bunch of whiny, defeatist babies, we could cooperate with very simple, straightforward infection control measures like wearing masks and getting vaccinated as soon as possible and actually stand a chance of wiping it out. There's no shortage of diseases throughout history that have been successfully nullified by coherent, sensible public health responses. Nothing about Covid suggests that it's genuinely impossible to beat. People are just being stupid, and then people like you seem to think calling them stupid is unreasonable. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956904739] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>It's something we will have to learn to live with. Like other viruses.</quote> Or, instead of giving up like like a bunch of whiny, defeatist babies, we could cooperate with very simple, straightforward infection control measures like wearing masks and getting vaccinated as soon as possible and actually stand a chance of wiping it out. There's no shortage of diseases throughout history that have been successfully nullified by coherent, sensible public health responses. Nothing about Covid suggests that it's genuinely impossible to beat. People are just being stupid, and then people like you seem to think calling them stupid is unreasonable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 08/08/21 8:24:49 PM #207:	adjl posted... Nothing about Covid suggests that it's genuinely impossible to beat. It's totally possible, but like the inevitable alien invasion or robot uprising, there will always be those few who side against humanity. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:956904914] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing about Covid suggests that it's genuinely impossible to beat.</quote> It's totally possible, but like the inevitable alien invasion or robot uprising, there will always be those few who side against humanity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/08/21 8:28:46 PM #208:	KodyKeir posted... It's totally possible, but like the inevitable alien invasion or robot uprising, there will always be those few who side against humanity. The difference, however, is that the people siding against humanity in those cases are siding with another force that they think is going to be more beneficial to them. Here, they're just being whiny and refusing to stop getting in the way of the people that actually want to fight the war. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956905010] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted... </cite> <quote>It's totally possible, but like the inevitable alien invasion or robot uprising, there will always be those few who side against humanity.</quote> The difference, however, is that the people siding against humanity in those cases are siding with another force that they think is going to be more beneficial to them. Here, they're just being whiny and refusing to stop getting in the way of the people that actually want to fight the war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 08/08/21 9:12:31 PM #209:	adjl posted... Here, they're just being whiny and refusing to stop getting in the way of the people that actually want to fight the war. Or are accelerationists who think they would actually survive in a post apocalyptic landscape, instead of succumbing to run away climate change that they will be unable to stop because they destroyed the global infrastructure. Or are just cowards that had their spirits crushed long ago, and now can only lick the boots of their dumb masters. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:956906189] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Here, they're just being whiny and refusing to stop getting in the way of the people that actually want to fight the war.</quote> Or are accelerationists who think they would actually survive in a post apocalyptic landscape, instead of succumbing to run away climate change that they will be unable to stop because they destroyed the global infrastructure. Or are just cowards that had their spirits crushed long ago, and now can only lick the boots of their dumb masters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/08/21 9:14:41 PM #210:	KodyKeir posted... Or are accelerationists who think they would actually survive in a post apocalyptic landscape, instead of succumbing to run away climate change that they will be unable to stop because they destroyed the global infrastructure. Or are just cowards that had their spirits crushed long ago, and now can only lick the boots of their dumb masters. I think that's giving them too much credit. There's no ulterior motive or actual plan, they just suck at risk assessment and hate the idea of being remotely inconvenienced to manage the risks they fail to comprehend. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956906242] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted... </cite> <quote>Or are accelerationists who think they would actually survive in a post apocalyptic landscape, instead of succumbing to run away climate change that they will be unable to stop because they destroyed the global infrastructure. Or are just cowards that had their spirits crushed long ago, and now can only lick the boots of their dumb masters.</quote> I think that's giving them too much credit. There's no ulterior motive or actual plan, they just suck at risk assessment and hate the idea of being remotely inconvenienced to manage the risks they fail to comprehend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 08/08/21 9:34:06 PM #211:	adjl posted... I think that's giving them too much credit. I keep forgetting: Never attribute to malice, what can be explained by incompetence. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:956906694] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>I think that's giving them too much credit.</quote> I keep forgetting: Never attribute to malice, what can be explained by incompetence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/21 9:39:21 PM #212:	We can actually eradicate covid most likely if people stop being stupid. Weve seen it mutate into other variants but if we get more of the global population vaccinated the rate of mutation should really slow down --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956906806] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>We can actually eradicate covid most likely if people stop being stupid. Weve seen it mutate into other variants but if we get more of the global population vaccinated the rate of mutation should really slow down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/08/21 9:40:25 PM #213:	Mead posted... that isnt the logic Im employing it is though Oh no half a million people died from one of the most widespread diseases in a world of 8 billion plus, oh no, so deaaaaadly <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956906824] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>that isnt the logic Im employing</quote>it is though Oh no half a million people died from one of the most widespread diseases in a world of 8 billion plus, oh no, so deaaaaadly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/08/21 9:40:59 PM #214:	ReturnOfFa posted... it's like not calling chicken pox deadly it's not lol <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956906842] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>it's like not calling chicken pox deadly</quote>it's not lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/21 9:41:22 PM #215:	honkzilla posted... it is though Oh no half a million people died from one of the most widespread diseases in a world of 8 billion plus, oh no, so deaaaaadly not as deadly as some things and other diseases, but still deadly --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956906851] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>it is though Oh no half a million people died from one of the most widespread diseases in a world of 8 billion plus, oh no, so deaaaaadly</quote> not as deadly as some things and other diseases, but still deadly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/08/21 9:44:52 PM #216:	Mead posted... not as deadly as some things and other diseases, but still deadly Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956906945] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>not as deadly as some things and other diseases, but still deadly</quote>Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/21 9:49:42 PM #217:	honkzilla posted... Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that getting the flu along with a plethora of any other generally non lethal diseases can easily be deadly. People die of flu and pneumonia combos every day. It clearly fits the definition of a deadly disease. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956907066] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that</quote> getting the flu along with a plethora of any other generally non lethal diseases can easily be deadly. People die of flu and pneumonia combos every day. It clearly fits the definition of a deadly disease. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 08/08/21 9:56:35 PM #218:	honkzilla posted... Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that That's not how it works though. A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe, but the chances of one hitting earth (and thus wiping out all life) is so statistically small, it can be called infinitesimal; this does not negate the fact that if a gamma ray burst does hit the earth, we will all die. By your logic, as the universe is infinite, and almost entirely empty space at that, then the average population of the universe is zero. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:956907247] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>Sure, if you want to stretch the term beyond usefulness you could say that</quote> That's not how it works though. A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe, but the chances of one hitting earth (and thus wiping out all life) is so statistically small, it can be called infinitesimal; this does not negate the fact that if a gamma ray burst does hit the earth, we will all die. By your logic, as the universe is infinite, and almost entirely empty space at that, then the average population of the universe is zero. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/08/21 10:02:28 PM #219:	Mead posted... getting the flu along with a plethora of any other generally non lethal diseases can easily be deadly. See the fact that you're pulling back and padding with weasel words here shows that you know there's something silly about your case here lol "Can be deadly under certain conditions or in certain populations" is an accurate descriptor. Merely stretching flat "deadly" to include anything that "can be deadly, etc." makes "deadly" a pretty diffuse term. Like you're not the only person to use it this way these days so I'm guessing I just have to adjust to it, but "deadly" used to mean "disease I, having some understanding of probability and statistics, should realistically fear as a mortal danger" and now seems in many people's minds to mean "disease certain people could under certain conditions die from, maybe* " <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956907395] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>getting the flu along with a plethora of any other generally non lethal diseases can easily be deadly.</quote>See the fact that you're pulling back and padding with weasel words here shows that you know there's something silly about your case here lol "Can be deadly under certain conditions or in certain populations" is an accurate descriptor. Merely stretching flat "deadly" to include anything that "can be deadly, etc." makes "deadly" a pretty diffuse term. Like you're not the only person to use it this way these days so I'm guessing I just have to adjust to it, but "deadly" used to mean "disease I, having some understanding of probability and statistics, should realistically fear as a mortal danger" and now seems in many people's minds to mean "disease certain people could under certain conditions die from, maybe* " </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/08/21 10:07:29 PM #220:	Like worldmeters gives 200M cases 4M deaths so call it a 2% CFR and we'll kindly just not talk about the difference between CFR and IFR because we've all certainly already had that argument goddamn plenty and it's not important Holy shit! 100 random people got this disease and an old guy and a morbidly obese guy died! What a deadly disease holy shit if you get it you should fear for your life because it is *deaaadllyyyy* Like get a fuckin clue lmfao <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956907521] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Like worldmeters gives 200M cases 4M deaths so call it a 2% CFR and we'll kindly just not talk about the difference between CFR and IFR because we've all certainly already had that argument goddamn plenty and it's not important Holy shit! 100 random people got this disease and an old guy and a morbidly obese guy died! What a deadly disease holy shit if you get it you should fear for your life because it is deaaadllyyyy Like get a fuckin clue lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 08/09/21 5:30:57 AM #221:	KodyKeir posted... A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe, but the chances of one hitting earth (and thus wiping out all life) is so statistically small, it can be called infinitesimal; this does not negate the fact that if a gamma ray burst does hit the earth, we will all die. or we become planet hulk --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:956914259] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted...</cite> <quote> A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe, but the chances of one hitting earth (and thus wiping out all life) is so statistically small, it can be called infinitesimal; this does not negate the fact that if a gamma ray burst does hit the earth, we will all die. </quote> or we become planet hulk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/21 5:47:21 AM #222:	honkzilla posted... "deadly" used to mean "disease I, having some understanding of probability and statistics, should realistically fear as a mortal danger" Nope. Its always meant the same thing. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/deadly-disease --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956914406] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>"deadly" used to mean "disease I, having some understanding of probability and statistics, should realistically fear as a mortal danger"</quote> Nope. Its always meant the same thing. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/deadly-disease </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/09/21 7:17:39 AM #223:	KodyKeir posted... A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe, Right, meaning that if you're exposed to gamma rays you have good reason to fear for your life. Unlike if you get the flu. Do you see why I don't have to bother responding to the rest of your post, or do you need me to spell it out for you? <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956915317] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted... </cite> <quote>A gamma ray burst is one of the most deadliest things in the universe,</quote>Right, meaning that if you're exposed to gamma rays you have good reason to fear for your life. Unlike if you get the flu. Do you see why I don't have to bother responding to the rest of your post, or do you need me to spell it out for you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/09/21 7:19:47 AM #224:	Mead posted... Its always meant the same thing. Holy fuck you actually think language is static and linguistic prescriptivism is valid. Wooooooooooowwwwwwww dude it's possible that you're actually not intelligent enough to understand why you're wrong lol Funny that you also completely ignored this: honkzilla posted... Like worldmeters gives 200M cases 4M deaths so call it a 2% CFR and we'll kindly just not talk about the difference between CFR and IFR because we've all certainly already had that argument goddamn plenty and it's not important Holy shit! 100 random people got this disease and an old guy and a morbidly obese guy died! What a deadly disease holy shit if you get it you should fear for your life because it is deaaadllyyyy Like get a fuckin clue lmfao <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956915340] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Its always meant the same thing.</quote>Holy fuck you actually think language is static and linguistic prescriptivism is valid. Wooooooooooowwwwwwww dude it's possible that you're actually not intelligent enough to understand why you're wrong lol Funny that you also completely ignored this: honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>Like worldmeters gives 200M cases 4M deaths so call it a 2% CFR and we'll kindly just not talk about the difference between CFR and IFR because we've all certainly already had that argument goddamn plenty and it's not important Holy shit! 100 random people got this disease and an old guy and a morbidly obese guy died! What a deadly disease holy shit if you get it you should fear for your life because it is deaaadllyyyy Like get a fuckin clue lmfao</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 3:41:43 PM #225:	honkzilla posted... it's not lol Oooookay, well now it turns out you're a self-professed medical expert too. Lovely. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956926993] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>it's not lol</quote>Oooookay, well now it turns out you're a self-professed medical expert too. Lovely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 3:42:46 PM #226:	wwinterj25 posted... Depends the underwear. That's not a bad name for a thong though. :3 We might disagree, but you can't tell me I'm not creative! --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927027] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>Depends the underwear. That's not a bad name for a thong though. :3</quote>We might disagree, but you can't tell me I'm not creative! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 3:45:11 PM #227:	@honkzilla https://www.health.com/condition/flu/how-do-you-die-from-flu "While the 20182019 flu season hasn't been as dangerous as last year's (so far), theres still widespread flu activity across the country. This year's vaccine looks to be more effective, but around 100,000 people have still been hospitalized with influenza, according to the CDC. And yes, there are also deaths, including among adults and children who otherwise seemed healthy, sometimes shortly after developing symptoms, according to accounts from their families and health officials. Among eight flu-related deaths in San Diego, for example, was a 32-year-old man without any medical issues. Last year, Michael Messenger, 12, died just days after a rapid flu test at an urgent care center came back negative. Katharine Gallagher, 27, died five days after leaving work early with flu symptoms, which progressed to severe acute bronchial pneumonia. Its all more than a little frightening." Wow, it's almost as if this disease has the potential to be DEADLY, and it's almost as if we have a large amount of the population that downplays it, even though they could help prevent it! Wow, almost seems like the attitude runs parallel to COVID-vaccine denialism :) --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927093] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>@honkzilla https://www.health.com/condition/flu/how-do-you-die-from-flu "While the 20182019 flu season hasn't been as dangerous as last year's (so far), theres still widespread flu activity across the country. This year's vaccine looks to be more effective, but around 100,000 people have still been hospitalized with influenza, according to the CDC. And yes, there are also deaths, including among adults and children who otherwise seemed healthy, sometimes shortly after developing symptoms, according to accounts from their families and health officials. Among eight flu-related deaths in San Diego, for example, was a 32-year-old man without any medical issues. Last year, Michael Messenger, 12, died just days after a rapid flu test at an urgent care center came back negative. Katharine Gallagher, 27, died five days after leaving work early with flu symptoms, which progressed to severe acute bronchial pneumonia. Its all more than a little frightening." Wow, it's almost as if this disease has the potential to be DEADLY, and it's almost as if we have a large amount of the population that downplays it, even though they could help prevent it! Wow, almost seems like the attitude runs parallel to COVID-vaccine denialism :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 3:45:48 PM #228:	Just an old guy, and a morbidly obese guy, I don't wanna talk about it, who cares!!!! --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927110] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Just an old guy, and a morbidly obese guy, I don't wanna talk about it, who cares!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 3:46:11 PM #229:	mentally puts honkzilla down a peg to reside closer to wwinter --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927125] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>mentally puts honkzilla down a peg to reside closer to wwinter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/09/21 4:01:24 PM #230:	ReturnOfFa posted... Oooookay, well now it turns out you're a self-professed medical expert too. Lovely. The chicken pox mortality rate is 0.00035%. If you think that rates as "deadly" you don't know what that word means lol I didn't have to be a medical expert and in fact never once professed to be one despite your attempt to claim I did. I just had to know how to use google. I guess that's beyond your capability or something idk ReturnOfFa posted... it's almost as if this disease has the potential to be DEADLY By using the qualifier "has the potential to be deadly" and not "is deadly" you are already halfway admitting that you know it's silly to flatly label influenza "deadly". Mead did the same thing before conveniently ignoring this thread after I called him on it lol ReturnOfFa posted... mentally puts honkzilla down a peg to reside closer to wwinter I am devastated to lose face in the fictional rating contest that exists only in the head of the living avatar of the Dunning-Kruger effect. How will I go on <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956927590] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Oooookay, well now it turns out you're a self-professed medical expert too. Lovely.</quote>The chicken pox mortality rate is 0.00035%. If you think that rates as "deadly" you don't know what that word means lol I didn't have to be a medical expert and in fact never once professed to be one despite your attempt to claim I did. I just had to know how to use google. I guess that's beyond your capability or something idk ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>it's almost as if this disease has the potential to be DEADLY</quote>By using the qualifier "has the potential to be deadly" and not "is deadly" you are already halfway admitting that you know it's silly to flatly label influenza "deadly". Mead did the same thing before conveniently ignoring this thread after I called him on it lol ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>mentally puts honkzilla down a peg to reside closer to wwinter</quote>I am devastated to lose face in the fictional rating contest that exists only in the head of the living avatar of the Dunning-Kruger effect. How will I go on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 4:05:18 PM #231:	honkzilla posted... The chicken pox mortality rate is 0.00035%. If you think that rates as "deadly" you don't know what that word means lol I didn't have to be a medical expert and in fact never once professed to be one despite your attempt to claim I did. I just had to know how to use google. I guess that's beyond your capability or something idk By using the qualifier "has the potential to be deadly" and not "is deadly" you are already halfway admitting that you know it's silly to flatly label influenza "deadly". Mead did the same thing before conveniently ignoring this thread after I called him on it lol I am devastated to lose face in the fictional rating contest that exists only in the head of the living avatar of the Dunning-Kruger effect. How will I go on I get where you're coming from, but at this point, we're just arguing about a disagreement of semantics. Still, I feel strongly enough about it because I hear A METRIC FUCKLOAD of anti-flu vax nonsense that isn't coming from an informed background. "Oh, I'm healthy, I don't need it, I don't get the flu.". Better coverage = less flu. The vax doesn't hurt you, it just makes sense. As far as the semantic argument goes, let's compare it to whether or not 'cars' are deadly. I would say 'yes', but I understand if someone would argue 'no' based upon rates of death. Still, I would call it something potentially deadly that has numerous methods of changing the likelihood of outcome of death. Just like the flu. Don't bother calling out people for 'ignoring a thread'. Who cares, they might just see it as a useless argument. I'm willing to discuss, but you aren't going to convince me otherwise! --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927723] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>The chicken pox mortality rate is 0.00035%. If you think that rates as "deadly" you don't know what that word means lol I didn't have to be a medical expert and in fact never once professed to be one despite your attempt to claim I did. I just had to know how to use google. I guess that's beyond your capability or something idk By using the qualifier "has the potential to be deadly" and not "is deadly" you are already halfway admitting that you know it's silly to flatly label influenza "deadly". Mead did the same thing before conveniently ignoring this thread after I called him on it lol I am devastated to lose face in the fictional rating contest that exists only in the head of the living avatar of the Dunning-Kruger effect. How will I go on</quote>I get where you're coming from, but at this point, we're just arguing about a disagreement of semantics. Still, I feel strongly enough about it because I hear A METRIC FUCKLOAD of anti-flu vax nonsense that isn't coming from an informed background. "Oh, I'm healthy, I don't need it, I don't get the flu.". Better coverage = less flu. The vax doesn't hurt you, it just makes sense. As far as the semantic argument goes, let's compare it to whether or not 'cars' are deadly. I would say 'yes', but I understand if someone would argue 'no' based upon rates of death. Still, I would call it something potentially deadly that has numerous methods of changing the likelihood of outcome of death. Just like the flu. Don't bother calling out people for 'ignoring a thread'. Who cares, they might just see it as a useless argument. I'm willing to discuss, but you aren't going to convince me otherwise! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 4:07:02 PM #232:	And don't worry, you're not as weird as wwinter, with their split personalities spread across two accounts lol --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956927780] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>And don't worry, you're not as weird as wwinter, with their split personalities spread across two accounts lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/09/21 4:10:30 PM #233:	ReturnOfFa posted... I get where you're coming from, but at this point, we're just arguing about a disagreement of semantics Right but the thing is the definition I'm advocating actually has utility and the definition that encompasses "anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever" is basically useless since there is almost nothing it doesn't apply to. "Chicken pox is deadly" is much closer to the latter definition than the former here Like I'm sorry this is giving you such trouble and I'm even more sorry to see you've decided to just refuse to see reason here but if you say without qualification that the flu is deadly all you're doing is diluting the meaning of the word and making it less useful, like that's just factual lol <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956927891] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>I get where you're coming from, but at this point, we're just arguing about a disagreement of semantics</quote>Right but the thing is the definition I'm advocating actually has utility and the definition that encompasses "anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever" is basically useless since there is almost nothing it doesn't apply to. "Chicken pox is deadly" is much closer to the latter definition than the former here Like I'm sorry this is giving you such trouble and I'm even more sorry to see you've decided to just refuse to see reason here but if you say without qualification that the flu is deadly all you're doing is diluting the meaning of the word and making it less useful, like that's just factual lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/21 4:16:54 PM #234:	Its all about personal perspective. If youre in good health and so are the people you care about are doing okay, you dont have much to worry about when it comes to something like the flu. That is valid. But if you are like a lot of other people, either you yourself or people you care about and love are elderly, or very young, or recovering from surgery, battling cancer, or immune compromised from other conditions, then those low mortality statistics start to be less and less meaningful because diseases like the flu absolutely have a strong chance of being fatal to all the people in those positions. It is deadly to them and anyone that cares about them. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956928152] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Its all about personal perspective. If youre in good health and so are the people you care about are doing okay, you dont have much to worry about when it comes to something like the flu. That is valid. But if you are like a lot of other people, either you yourself or people you care about and love are elderly, or very young, or recovering from surgery, battling cancer, or immune compromised from other conditions, then those low mortality statistics start to be less and less meaningful because diseases like the flu absolutely have a strong chance of being fatal to all the people in those positions. It is deadly to them and anyone that cares about them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/21 4:17:59 PM #235:	honkzilla posted... "anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever" youre being obnoxiously flippant and disingenuous with this youre better than that and you know that is not what anyone is claiming --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:956928189] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>"anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever"</quote> youre being obnoxiously flippant and disingenuous with this youre better than that and you know that is not what anyone is claiming </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 4:34:16 PM #236:	honkzilla posted... Right but the thing is the definition I'm advocating actually has utility and the definition that encompasses "anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever" is basically useless since there is almost nothing it doesn't apply to. "Chicken pox is deadly" is much closer to the latter definition than the former here Like I'm sorry this is giving you such trouble and I'm even more sorry to see you've decided to just refuse to see reason here but if you say without qualification that the flu is deadly all you're doing is diluting the meaning of the word and making it less useful, like that's just factual lol It isn't 'giving me trouble'. Cheers. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956928750] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>honkzilla posted... </cite> <quote>Right but the thing is the definition I'm advocating actually has utility and the definition that encompasses "anything anyone has ever or could ever die of, ever" is basically useless since there is almost nothing it doesn't apply to. "Chicken pox is deadly" is much closer to the latter definition than the former here Like I'm sorry this is giving you such trouble and I'm even more sorry to see you've decided to just refuse to see reason here but if you say without qualification that the flu is deadly all you're doing is diluting the meaning of the word and making it less useful, like that's just factual lol</quote>It isn't 'giving me trouble'. Cheers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/09/21 4:34:36 PM #237:	adjl posted... then people like you seem to think calling them stupid is unreasonable. I'm happy you understand. It's amusing you call folk babies yet you're the one crying that some folk don't want to live in fear and follow like sheep. Ah well. The show must go on. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:956928763] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>then people like you seem to think calling them stupid is unreasonable.</quote> I'm happy you understand. It's amusing you call folk babies yet you're the one crying that some folk don't want to live in fear and follow like sheep. Ah well. The show must go on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 4:34:59 PM #238:	My sister is an ER nurse, and she will tell you that the flu is a deadly disease. My friend is nearly done medical school, she will tell you that influenza is a deadly disease. I fail to understand how calling the flu 'deadly' 'dilutes' the meaning of the word. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956928779] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>My sister is an ER nurse, and she will tell you that the flu is a deadly disease. My friend is nearly done medical school, she will tell you that influenza is a deadly disease. I fail to understand how calling the flu 'deadly' 'dilutes' the meaning of the word. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/09/21 4:37:05 PM #239:	ReturnOfFa posted... My sister is an ER nurse, and she will tell you that the flu is a deadly disease. It's odd that some folk argue otherwise. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:956928833] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>My sister is an ER nurse, and she will tell you that the flu is a deadly disease. </quote> It's odd that some folk argue otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 08/09/21 4:39:46 PM #240:	What a weird argument this turned into --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:956928922] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>What a weird argument this turned into </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/09/21 5:32:09 PM #241:	Metalsonic66 posted... What a weird argument this turned into No kidding. --- Propaganda is fun, isn't it? - Zeus https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:956930451] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Metalsonic66 posted... </cite> <quote>What a weird argument this turned into</quote>No kidding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 5:38:17 PM #242:	Mead posted... Its all about personal perspective. If youre in good health and so are the people you care about are doing okay, you dont have much to worry about when it comes to something like the flu. That is valid. But if you are like a lot of other people, either you yourself or people you care about and love are elderly, or very young, or recovering from surgery, battling cancer, or immune compromised from other conditions, then those low mortality statistics start to be less and less meaningful because diseases like the flu absolutely have a strong chance of being fatal to all the people in those positions. It is deadly to them and anyone that cares about them. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956930666] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Its all about personal perspective. If youre in good health and so are the people you care about are doing okay, you dont have much to worry about when it comes to something like the flu. That is valid. But if you are like a lot of other people, either you yourself or people you care about and love are elderly, or very young, or recovering from surgery, battling cancer, or immune compromised from other conditions, then those low mortality statistics start to be less and less meaningful because diseases like the flu absolutely have a strong chance of being fatal to all the people in those positions. It is deadly to them and anyone that cares about them.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bshwalker 08/09/21 6:20:06 PM #243:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... No kidding. Ive noticed this happens a lot, lately. <cite>bshwalker posted [p:956932036] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... </cite> <quote>No kidding.</quote>Ive noticed this happens a lot, lately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
honkzilla 08/09/21 6:26:44 PM #244:	Mead posted... youre being obnoxiously flippant and disingenuous with this No, I'm not lol that's literally just what you lot are pushing. You may not like ad absurdum but that doesn't make it flippant or disingenuous Mead posted... youre better than that and you know that is not what anyone is claiming Except you were, and only after I pointed it out did you fully realize that's what position you had taken and start qualifying your statements to "the flu caaaaan beeeee deadly unnnndeerrr cerrrtaainnn connnddiiitiiooonnsss" and whatnot Lmfao it's first grade spongebob ReturnOfFa posted... It isn't 'giving me trouble'. I mean it clearly is, like I don't even get the sense that you fully understand the point I'm making to begin with. I'm optimistic so I'm acting like you do but I gotta tell ya man it's a real question mark given how you keep talking past me and failing to even address much less deal with my points ReturnOfFa posted... I fail to understand how calling the flu 'deadly' 'dilutes' the meaning of the word. See, you even admit it right here lol it's giving you mad trouble. The point is that connotations of words matter and precision of language is important. "Deadly" carries with it a connotation of danger and evokes fear or anxiety because it has "dead" in it and implies death, not as a kinda maybe sorta under the right conditions thing, but as something to actually fear. Ebola is deadly. The black plague was deadly. Gamma ray bursts are deadly. Sodium cyanide is deadly. If you're exposed to any of these things, no matter who you are, you have a perfectly rational fear for your life. And note that I'm not saying these things are deadly "under certain conditions", there's no qualifier. They're just flat deadly. The flu is deadly... in the very young, the very old, the immunocompromised, whatever specific conditions you please. COVID is deadly... if you're super out of shape or super old or immunocompromised. Highway driving is deadly... if you don't wear your seat belt, drive drunk, don't keep your attention fixed on driving etc., AND if you happen to be in one of the fraction of collisions that result in death. Saying any of the above things are just flat, unqualified "deadly" puts them on the same shelf as things anyone, no matter who they are, should reasonably fear, when let's be frank, if you don't fit any of the certain conditions it's not rational to expect your own death if you happen to come down with the flu or drive on the highway. I mean if you want to push the idea that "deadly" doesn't actually mean "stands a significant chance of actually killing you" and actually means "stands a nonzero chance of killing someone somewhere under certain circumstances" then do you, but like, at that point anything you can fit in your mouth is deadly because you could choke on it, including solid food. All solid food is deadly under this meaning. I mean, like, okay yeah, to a fuckin newborn baby, but that's mighty fuckin silly yeah? <cite>honkzilla posted [p:956932220] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>youre being obnoxiously flippant and disingenuous with this</quote>No, I'm not lol that's literally just what you lot are pushing. You may not like ad absurdum but that doesn't make it flippant or disingenuous Mead posted... </cite> <quote>youre better than that and you know that is not what anyone is claiming</quote>Except you were, and only after I pointed it out did you fully realize that's what position you had taken and start qualifying your statements to "the flu caaaaan beeeee deadly unnnndeerrr cerrrtaainnn connnddiiitiiooonnsss" and whatnot Lmfao it's first grade spongebob ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>It isn't 'giving me trouble'.</quote>I mean it clearly is, like I don't even get the sense that you fully understand the point I'm making to begin with. I'm optimistic so I'm acting like you do but I gotta tell ya man it's a real question mark given how you keep talking past me and failing to even address much less deal with my points ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>I fail to understand how calling the flu 'deadly' 'dilutes' the meaning of the word.</quote>See, you even admit it right here lol it's giving you mad trouble. The point is that connotations of words matter and precision of language is important. "Deadly" carries with it a connotation of danger and evokes fear or anxiety because it has "dead" in it and implies death, not as a kinda maybe sorta under the right conditions thing, but as something to actually fear. Ebola is deadly. The black plague was deadly. Gamma ray bursts are deadly. Sodium cyanide is deadly. If you're exposed to any of these things, no matter who you are, you have a perfectly rational fear for your life. And note that I'm not saying these things are deadly "under certain conditions", there's no qualifier. They're just flat deadly. The flu is deadly... in the very young, the very old, the immunocompromised, whatever specific conditions you please. COVID is deadly... if you're super out of shape or super old or immunocompromised. Highway driving is deadly... if you don't wear your seat belt, drive drunk, don't keep your attention fixed on driving etc., AND if you happen to be in one of the fraction of collisions that result in death. Saying any of the above things are just flat, unqualified "deadly" puts them on the same shelf as things anyone, no matter who they are, should reasonably fear, when let's be frank, if you don't fit any of the certain conditions it's not rational to expect your own death if you happen to come down with the flu or drive on the highway. I mean if you want to push the idea that "deadly" doesn't actually mean "stands a significant chance of actually killing you" and actually means "stands a nonzero chance of killing someone somewhere under certain circumstances" then do you, but like, at that point anything you can fit in your mouth is deadly because you could choke on it, including solid food. All solid food is deadly under this meaning. I mean, like, okay yeah, to a fuckin newborn baby, but that's mighty fuckin silly yeah? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/09/21 6:41:03 PM #245:	wwinterj25 posted... I'm happy you understand. You're proud to say that it's unreasonable to call people stupid for making stupid decisions that objectively make the world around them worse? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956932616] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm happy you understand.</quote> You're proud to say that it's unreasonable to call people stupid for making stupid decisions that objectively make the world around them worse? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 08/09/21 6:54:52 PM #246:	https://youtu.be/WPz9Fcvb1II --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:956933034] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/WPz9Fcvb1II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 08/09/21 7:56:12 PM #247:	lol --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:956934879] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 08/10/21 2:15:08 AM #248:	wwinterj25 posted... I'm happy you understand. It's amusing you call folk babies yet you're the one crying that some folk don't want to live in fear and follow like sheep. Ah well. The show must go on. the ones who refuse to get the vaccine are the ones literally terrified it'll make them magnetic so they parrot excuses like sheep so who is living in fear again --- but i'm not the villain, despite what you're always preaching call me a traitor, i'm just collecting your victims <cite>helIy posted [p:956943706] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm happy you understand. It's amusing you call folk babies yet you're the one crying that some folk don't want to live in fear and follow like sheep. Ah well. The show must go on.</quote> the ones who refuse to get the vaccine are the ones literally terrified it'll make them magnetic so they parrot excuses like sheep so who is living in fear again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 08/10/21 4:46:23 AM #249:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CFOtX3VkG88 --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:956945537] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CFOtX3VkG88</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/10/21 10:55:05 PM #250:	helIy posted... so who is living in fear again Just folk like yourself it seems. I'm shocked you even go outside. How inconsiderate of you..... --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:956971554] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>helIy posted... </cite> <quote>so who is living in fear again</quote> Just folk like yourself it seems. I'm shocked you even go outside. How inconsiderate of you..... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 08/10/21 10:58:56 PM #251:	So is the 4th wave gonna be worse than the 3rd? Starting to look it --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. <cite>Blighboy posted [p:956971663] in Why are pe... [t:79588109]...</cite> <quote>So is the 4th wave gonna be worse than the 3rd? Starting to look it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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