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UshiromiyaEva
07/21/21 5:13:47 PM
#152:


Gotta be careful when turning in Wonderous Trails to not waste the huge chunk of HP it gives you on a level capped job. You get that even if you fail to get any lines.

It's tough to do Wonderous Trails before hitting cap on a character, though. Technically possible but way easier if you can do unsynched solo stuff.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/21/21 6:36:04 PM
#153:


Does new stuff come out for achievement point redemption, or has that just become static?


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LordoftheMorons
07/21/21 6:38:00 PM
#154:


I don't think anything's been added since I started playing (beginning of 2020)

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Xiahou Shake
07/21/21 6:47:09 PM
#155:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Does new stuff come out for achievement point redemption, or has that just become static?
Don't veteran rewards end up getting added to this shop when they cycle out?

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UshiromiyaEva
07/21/21 6:47:38 PM
#156:


Maaaan you can't even sell the shitty swimsuits from the Cascadier tickets!

Guess there's no reasomln NOT to hold onto the currency regardless.

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mccheyne
07/21/21 7:28:07 PM
#157:


Sat in a queue for minstrel's ballad: Ultima's Bane for a little over an hour while I got stuff done. Nice to have that out of the way, and the extra poetics gave me enough to get the ilvl 270 bow (everything else is in the 140-145 range), so that was sweet! Also that piano remix of Matoya's theme was quite good!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/21/21 7:31:09 PM
#158:


Ryne outfit now on the Mog Station....if you can dye that then maybe <_<

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/21/21 8:43:29 PM
#159:


mccheyne posted...
Sat in a queue for minstrel's ballad: Ultima's Bane for a little over an hour while I got stuff done. Nice to have that out of the way, and the extra poetics gave me enough to get the ilvl 270 bow (everything else is in the 140-145 range), so that was sweet! Also that piano remix of Matoya's theme was quite good!

In the future you can use the Party Finder for stuff like that and it'll fill faster. Extreme Trials (Minstrel's Ballad's are a subset of those) typically get run via people joining premade parties in Party Finder and going in manually. It also allows you to unsync it (allow people to go in above the normal level/item cap) which is how people typically do outdated fights in this game. And if you want to experience it as intended you can find people to do it that way as well. If you advertise newbie bonus you'll probably get takers either way.

Everyone does this at some point when they start playing, lol. Maybe they should make it more obvious.

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xenosaga
07/21/21 8:44:30 PM
#160:


Looks like it can't be dyed.

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LordoftheMorons
07/21/21 8:47:11 PM
#161:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Everyone does this at some point when they start playing, lol. Maybe they should make it more obvious.
Apparently people on the Japanese servers actually use DF for extremes (and even savages I think?)

Unfortunately I'm guessing that precludes them from warning people in-game

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UshiromiyaEva
07/21/21 9:13:36 PM
#162:


I am not one to give a shit about the WoW vs FFXIV "competition", but currently we have SE literally apologizing because there are too many people playing the game, meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1418003549133361156?s=19

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mccheyne
07/22/21 12:18:40 AM
#163:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
In the future you can use the Party Finder for stuff like that and it'll fill faster. Extreme Trials (Minstrel's Ballad's are a subset of those) typically get run via people joining premade parties in Party Finder and going in manually. It also allows you to unsync it (allow people to go in above the normal level/item cap) which is how people typically do outdated fights in this game. And if you want to experience it as intended you can find people to do it that way as well. If you advertise newbie bonus you'll probably get takers either way.

Everyone does this at some point when they start playing, lol. Maybe they should make it more obvious.
Will keep this in mind! As well as previous advice to use that for Coils of Bahamut. How much time should I set aside for each turn?

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Shadow Dino
07/22/21 12:25:41 AM
#164:


mccheyne posted...
Will keep this in mind! As well as previous advice to use that for Coils of Bahamut. How much time should I set aside for each turn?

Depends on if you're doing in sync'd (at level) or unsync'd (using Undersized Party option).

If synced, then probably a fair bit of time depending on how long it takes your party to grasp mechanics.

If unsynced, then about 5 minutes as level 80s shred each boss.

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JonThePenguin
07/22/21 9:29:00 AM
#165:


4.0 beated! I might actually get myself caught up by November (I am a horrifically slow player because I bounce between lots of different games).

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/22/21 10:01:26 AM
#166:


https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/6979bd996725a260058954f73d7f00ed86bb7155



Based Yoshi-P says to afk in Limsa anyways because it's a valid part of the MMO experience.

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ninkendo
07/22/21 10:13:23 AM
#167:


Genshin Impact getting Aloy

PSO2 already has Hatsune Miku

When is FFXIV getting Aya Brea

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/22/21 10:18:31 AM
#168:


I do not understand how anyone could possibly have a position that idling is a good thing. Sure if the servers aren't at capacity, who cares, but when people are actively being prevented from playing the game, how could you defend the mentally deficient Kotaku bloggers complaining about timing out people that are literally just taking up space?

The best part is, that same Kotaku article could have been a different spin on clickbait complaining about how "Not having an idle timeout disproportionately affects minorities somehow". It blows my mind that people still treat Kotaku as credible since Schrier left.

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JonThePenguin
07/22/21 10:20:15 AM
#169:


An addendum to my post about beating 4.0 - finally doing a level 70 dungeon really hit me with the fact that I need to redo my DRG hotbars. Had to do some annoying juggling to get some of my damage up.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/22/21 10:21:57 AM
#170:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I am not one to give a shit about the WoW vs FFXIV "competition", but currently we have SE literally apologizing because there are too many people playing the game, meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1418003549133361156?s=19
I read through the filings out of curiosity, and while my BS detector is going haywire through most of it, I 100% believe that there is a ton of low-key sexual harassment happening there. Regardless of how this lawsuit shakes out, you have to love how strangely tone deaf Blizzard's response was:

The DFEH includes distorted, and in many cases false, descriptions of Blizzards past. We have been extremely cooperative with the DFEH throughout their investigation, including providing them with extensive data and ample documentation, but they refused to inform us what issues they perceived. They were required by law to adequately investigate and to have good faith discussions with us to better understand and to resolve any claims or concerns before going to litigation, but they failed to do so. Instead, they rushed to file an inaccurate complaint, as we will demonstrate in court. We are sickened by the reprehensible conduct of the DFEH to drag into the complaint the tragic suicide of an employee whose passing has no bearing whatsoever on this case and with no regard for her grieving family. While we find this behavior to be disgraceful and unprofessional, it is unfortunately an example of how they have conducted themselves throughout the course of their investigation. It is this type of irresponsible behavior from unaccountable State bureaucrats that are driving many of the States best businesses out of California.

Did no PR person preview the message and recommend they remove the unneeded bashing of the state government?

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/22/21 10:24:41 AM
#171:


Also, last night I was finally able to get the Dataqi Chronicles FATE chain in Azim Steppe beat. I've been trying since Stormblood, but its impossible to solo and noone was ever intersted in doing it. You have to love how Square uses the relic grind to get people to play old content like that. A lot of things would be impossible to do without a large group of people premade if not for relic quests.

Also cleared PotD level 100 last night. Was nice to take a break from Eureka/Bozja for a change.

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xenosaga
07/22/21 11:11:02 AM
#172:


Hahah Yoshi-P is too awesome.

Based on that google doc did lamia become the unofficial b8 server or did a lot of people just kind of happen to end up there?

Been sketching up some FFXIV characters lately, have gone with Marauder, Red Mage, and Pugilist so far.


Thinking I might go with fishing next.

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Dantezoid
07/22/21 2:33:58 PM
#173:


Lamia becomes preferred all the time so people can naturally end up there, and others joined since so many others ended up there

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UshiromiyaEva
07/22/21 9:02:25 PM
#174:


What are so many Lallafels wearing this yellow Korean pop star hoodie?

And where do I get it??

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BK_Sheikah00
07/22/21 9:19:58 PM
#175:


I got Ryne's glam almost immediately. Too good. The boots or pants will see the most use though

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UshiromiyaEva
07/22/21 10:37:10 PM
#176:


Wait so I have to do double Dreadwyrms to summon Bahamut...but just for two levels?

Is that just there to need you for level 70 content??

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/22/21 10:51:29 PM
#177:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Wait so I have to do double Dreadwyrms to summon Bahamut...but just for two levels?

Is that just there to need you for level 70 content??

that's "we designed a cool ability for stormblood level cap and then needed to come up with something else for the expansion"

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BK_Sheikah00
07/23/21 12:30:20 AM
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LordoftheMorons
07/23/21 6:41:41 AM
#179:


Watching Asmon do min ilvl Labyrinth of the Ancients sure was something

I actually didn't know a couple of those mechanics!

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X_Dante_X
07/23/21 7:21:01 AM
#180:


syrcus tower is the one that really surprises you at min ilvl

scylla has an add phase! glasya is actually really cool!
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BK_Sheikah00
07/23/21 10:06:07 AM
#181:


Other than seeing last boss doing more Vaccum slashes, yeah, not much else was new in LotA. But it was fun seeing how much damage they can take.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/23/21 10:06:15 AM
#182:


I remember World of Darkness being an absolute bitch when it first came out, so can't wait to see Asmon try to min ilvl it

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/21 10:15:49 AM
#183:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Other than seeing last boss doing more Vaccum slashes, yeah, not much else was new in LotA. But it was fun seeing how much damage they can take.

Did they actually have to do the Bone Dragon skeleton mechanic or were they still able to tank the aoes all at once?

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BK_Sheikah00
07/23/21 10:17:49 AM
#184:


Oh they wiped multiple times to the skeletons. They had to do it right. But it's something I've seen happen even on normal runs so

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LordoftheMorons
07/23/21 10:18:14 AM
#185:


There were some other mechanics that you technically dont skip but that just dont matter at 130 that I wasnt aware of (like I knew the skeletons do raid damage when they reach bone dragon, but I never realized that theyre slower if they die apart from each other). I also didnt know that you were supposed to discharge towers on king behemoth (and apparently no one in Asmons group did either!)

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Dantezoid
07/23/21 10:52:42 AM
#186:


Yeah those are the only two spots of LotA that'll screw people unfamiliar

Scylla's extra phase is pretty intuitive so I don't expect any problems. Glasya will probably cause a wipe the first time but it's not actually hard so it won't be a wall or anything

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/21 11:04:30 AM
#187:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Oh they wiped multiple times to the skeletons. They had to do it right. But it's something I've seen happen even on normal runs so

Oh yeah people still wipe there but it's a matter of not enough healing because you can just heal, shield, and pray through those now.

The towers I actually forgot about. I don't think I've seen people do those since Heavensward where you still had two tanks per party!

Also I will confess: I still don't know what the fuck is going on during the Scylla fight, I just hit the boss until it dies and...I wanna say try to melt frozen people sometimes?

I wonder if the number crunch is going to make old duties closer to min ilevel sync or if it's gonna be too miniscule to notice

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Dantezoid
07/23/21 11:13:28 AM
#188:


Scylla tethers three elements to people:
Lightning peeps are supposed to take the orb to power towers, for use later (this never happens anymore)
Ice peeps get frozen. If they get thawed by a fire guy, it creates a water field, which reduces the damage of ancient flare. If an ice guy gets frozen on a place that's already water, everyone on the water gets frozen
Fire peeps just thaw ice dudes

Eventually scylla like puts up barriers or something and you need people to stand on pads as you kill adds, but if pads weren't powered, oops

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UshiromiyaEva
07/23/21 11:29:36 AM
#189:


Yeah it was super wierd watching and seeing some kisses straight up use attacks I had never seen.

This min ilevel stuff is going to be a lot more frustrating when they start getting to stuff that just isn't designed for it in the late game.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/21 12:23:16 PM
#190:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
This min ilevel stuff is going to be a lot more frustrating when they start getting to stuff that just isn't designed for it in the late game.

Fights are always designed for minimum item level, that's the point of the feature. Everything has a requirement you have to meet to get in, what min IL does is set everything you have to that baseline. It changes by duty, it's not a set standard.

It's interesting he's actually doing it this way because it's as close to a "pure" experience you can get (minus job and battle system changes) and it's not something that's really done anymore.

It would be interesting to see him handle, say, pre-nerf Heavensward raids at min IL (for history, Gordias and Midas were so notoriously difficult in a time before cross-world parties existed that it nearly killed the raid scene), but since they changed most of those fights I guess I'll have to settle for Ultimates.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/23/21 12:25:35 PM
#191:


You know what, I did actually forgot that there was a different minimum ilvl for each of the tiers, and that it wasn't just flat across the raid.

I never actually experienced an ilvl issue throughout the entire game until 5.5 came out, so it was never really retained.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/21 12:36:38 PM
#192:


Yep. Each expac basically has 3 tiers of gear. And if you haven't experienced it, the difference it makes is VERY significant for endgame content.

You'll learn all about it in Endwalker when you have to fight the final boss and do extreme trials before the weekly tomestone and raid gear even exists!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/23/21 12:39:26 PM
#193:


I mean I'm still dogshit at the first tier of Eden so I'm prepared to be trash.

I have made absolutely no strive towards endgame gameplay because of my leveling focus, so it will be another few months before I try to actually "get good".


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BK_Sheikah00
07/23/21 2:09:41 PM
#194:


Nobody even does min ilvl week 1, because crafted gear already puts you ahead for the first couple of fights.

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mccheyne
07/23/21 5:06:45 PM
#195:


I don't do any of the roulettes yet, as I get plenty of exp during the MSQ (as advised by some of you, so thank you!). But sometimes I'll do the Trial roulette, as it's fun fighting bosses. Since that first run of multiple Thornmarches, I've gotten multiple different ones (Battle on the Big Bridge/Keep seem to like popping up). But today, Thornmarch again...

4 tries this time. The first two, neither of the tanks kept the King in any specific area, so he essentially wandered around murdering people. Third try was better, but the whirlwind thing by one of the moogles took out 6 people.

Good lord do I hate that one...

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Isquen
07/23/21 5:30:18 PM
#196:


Could someone do me a huge favor and change my name from Earthshaker to Isquen in the spreadsheet? I wont have non-mobile access for a while tonight and I kinda forget by the time i get home, like, this whole week.

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Xiahou Shake
07/23/21 5:36:21 PM
#197:


mccheyne posted...
the whirlwind thing by one of the moogles took out 6 people.
I've done Thornmarch 3 times and died to this every time and I still have no idea what it is or why it happens

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Isquen
07/23/21 5:45:04 PM
#198:


Xiahou Shake posted...
I've done Thornmarch 3 times and died to this every time and I still have no idea what it is or why it happens

If bard is still alive when the warrior whirls, basically, I thought.

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mccheyne
07/23/21 11:37:26 PM
#199:


That scene while heading to Azys Lla was rad

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mccheyne
07/24/21 4:11:45 PM
#200:


Oh damn, Heavensward beaten!!

Every part of Azys Lla was awesome. That last dungeon was super cool, though with a name like The Warring Triad, I was waiting for other specific battles. Maybe later? Time will tell.

The final boss fight against The fucking Knights of the Round was epic as hell! Yeah it wasn't super hard or anything, but the atmosphere was insane, the beginning of the boss theme really set it up as a fight of gigantic proportions, and some of those attacks were super cool.

Overall, I was super impressed with Heavensward. Less fetch quests, more epic battles, most of the dungeons were much cooler than ARR, and it was just a great experience in general!

Got the ilvl 270 bow and body armor so far, so will need a bunch more poetics for the other stuff, but definitely a good start. Ended up finishing the Relic Reborn quest too, mainly to unlock the Hydra trial, and to have the bow glamour just in case. I've seen a couple party finders come up for Coils of Bahamut, so may create my own at some point to go through it.

If anyone sees me online, feel free to send a friend request my way, if you'd like!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/24/21 4:16:23 PM
#201:


Heavensward patches may be just as strong as the expansion proper, if not better, so you have plenty to look forward to.


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