Board 8 > FFXIV Topic Part 7 -- Sage: It Goes in Every Field

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/28/21 11:50:03 AM
#252:


Is Titan's raidwide damage not magical? Stoneskin was rarely used midfight and DRK didn't exist to apply INT down (rip old Delirium) so I can't imagine it would make a ton of difference except to the tank. But I have zero idea how the altered potency values, defense ratings, and damage formula change things if at all. Melees used to have garbage magic defense, dunno if that's still the case.

I do know healers lost Virus (now Addle for casters) and correct me if I'm wrong but melee dps now have Feint as a physical debuff where they used to have nothing?

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Dantezoid
07/28/21 12:39:26 PM
#253:


Yeah, what I'm getting at is its just different. When we ran t13, our whm would survive with literally single digit hp, so God help you if you didn't addle/reprise it

That's supposed to hit uber hard anyway, but it was so bad that even if you mitigated you could die to the damage variance

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xenosaga
07/28/21 2:17:35 PM
#254:


Hot damn, Amazon.co.jp doesn't mess around with shipping.



Up to 280 minions!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/28/21 3:40:08 PM
#255:


As I hit 79 and am one wonderful sessions away from never touching a pet class again until Endwalker, I ONLY now recognize this classes worst sin: The Ifrit-Egi's DOT doesn't count as your own, and appears as a white text timer randomly mixed in with the other status effect from other party members.

FUCK PETS

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BK_Sheikah00
07/28/21 10:48:49 PM
#256:


Rich knows Tataru is the strongest and that's all that matters.

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mccheyne
07/29/21 12:43:15 AM
#257:


Did the first containment bay trial, that was definitely a super cool fight. The music during the first phase being a call back to FF VI was awesome!

Also joined a group that did turn 1 of the Coils of Bahamut. That was definitely interesting. I forgot Alisaie existed lol. Interesting mechanics on that boss too. Hoping to get as much done on the weekend as I can, and potentially get to Stormblood also!

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KamikazePotato
07/29/21 12:51:10 AM
#258:


mccheyne posted...
Did the first containment bay trial, that was definitely a super cool fight.
I'M THE END AND THE BEGINNING

THE FAITH THAT FEEDS THE UNBELIEVING

A TIGHTENING KNOT TO STAUNCH THE BLEEDING

SAY MY NAME

(Say my name)

SE-PHI-ROT

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 12:59:27 AM
#259:


Sephirot is so rad.

He single handily holds up the entire warring triad's mediocrity.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 2:53:15 AM
#260:


Alright, I don't get what's going on with housing.

Thought people were waiting around for a price reduction based on the tooltip, but I have the 3 million Gil and it won't let me buy.

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xenosaga
07/29/21 9:40:06 AM
#261:


Yeah, buying a house is pretty horrible.

There is an additional super secret timer that noone can see counting down, and once it hits 0 the next person to try to buy the house gets it.

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Dantezoid
07/29/21 10:07:46 AM
#262:


If you relocate a house vs buy it straight up, you can skip the super secret countdown, which honestly just makes the problem worse since then people like me hoard houses even though they don't really use them, so people can't buy that first house in the first place

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Isquen
07/29/21 11:10:35 AM
#263:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Alright, I don't get what's going on with housing.

Thought people were waiting around for a price reduction based on the tooltip, but I have the 3 million Gil and it won't let me buy.

The moment a plot goes up for sale, there is a period of time (with a "prime time" zone of 10-14 hours afterward) where it becomes purchasable.

Camping for a plot is harmful to your health. Speaking from experience, and now I have one, I'm not unsubbing for more than a month because GODDAMN going through that again.


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mccheyne
07/29/21 2:20:23 PM
#264:


No idea which side to go to when Sophia did quasar, so went with the majority. Didn't die, so that was nice.

Fight was fun. Seemed fairly simple for the most part.

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Isquen
07/29/21 2:26:47 PM
#265:


Quasar will, I believe, knock you towards the heavier side of the scales. This is simple to note on Normal, since I think there's only one meteor dropping, but on Savage multiple will drop on both sides- while she's nuking areas with Thunder.

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Dantezoid
07/29/21 2:37:18 PM
#266:


I think on normal it starts with a single line to teach you the mechanic, then if the fight goes long enough to see it again it has multiple lines

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 4:58:57 PM
#267:


Just found about about the ignore depth versus cone option for tab targeting.

I cannot BELEIVE it defaults to ignore depth. I guess that makes more sense for a mouse player?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/29/21 5:29:33 PM
#268:


No, tab targeting is just esoteric no matter what. Just spam the button and pray.

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mccheyne
07/29/21 6:18:25 PM
#269:


Isquen posted...
Quasar will, I believe, knock you towards the heavier side of the scales. This is simple to note on Normal, since I think there's only one meteor dropping, but on Savage multiple will drop on both sides- while she's nuking areas with Thunder.

Dantezoid posted...
I think on normal it starts with a single line to teach you the mechanic, then if the fight goes long enough to see it again it has multiple lines
Good to know. Will try and remember that if I ever try the extreme versions.

Zurvan was not easy, he hit quite hard as well (including before the battle, RIP Regulas).

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UshiromiyaEva
07/29/21 6:31:44 PM
#270:


mccheyne posted...
RIP Regulas

This kind of blew me away at the time. Like, I thought this was gonoing to be a recurring character for sure.

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mccheyne
07/30/21 3:28:20 AM
#271:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
This kind of blew me away at the time. Like, I thought this was gonoing to be a recurring character for sure.
Especially that it happened in something that is optional (I think at least). That kinda threw me.

Also, just did the Final Steps of Faith. Holy fuck that was fun

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DoomTheGyarados
07/30/21 10:50:39 PM
#272:


So after stopping a long time ago got back into this because my favorite streamer did.

On 3.5 content, very pleased. Endwalker trailer is stuck in my head.


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UshiromiyaEva
07/30/21 10:54:06 PM
#273:


Which streamer?

There are....a lot now.

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DoomTheGyarados
07/30/21 10:56:20 PM
#274:


Asmon lol. I have been a fan of his for years now and after my breakup I was kind of dead inside too much to play WoW and then WoW kept being bad but seeing him play FFXIV every day has got me hyped to play it more, and the game is great I just never had time for two MMOs. I still don't. I currently main a bard, but we'll see

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UshiromiyaEva
07/30/21 11:04:09 PM
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DoomTheGyarados
07/30/21 11:05:00 PM
#276:


Rich is indeed a hoot. I literally watch Asmon several hours a day while sorting through cards lol

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LordoftheMorons
07/30/21 11:07:13 PM
#277:


I think the funniest thing in Richs stream was watching him be personally responsible for two wipes on A12 because of him using SMN limit breaks

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UshiromiyaEva
07/30/21 11:08:03 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/30/21 11:35:27 PM
#279:


https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/ouhtsh/just_announced_the_new_sage_icon_old_vs_new/

Next they should remove Gunbreaker so he doesn't trigger Vietnam War flashbacks in veterans.

Better remove all spiders because of "arachnophobia"

Where do you draw the line with social media cancer outrage culture?

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Not_an_Owl
07/31/21 12:26:14 AM
#280:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/ouhtsh/just_announced_the_new_sage_icon_old_vs_new/

Next they should remove Gunbreaker so he doesn't trigger Vietnam War flashbacks in veterans.

Better remove all spiders because of "arachnophobia"

Where do you draw the line with social media cancer outrage culture?
does the job icon being changed negatively impact your life in any way?

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trdl23
07/31/21 2:02:11 AM
#281:


Not_an_Owl posted...
does the job icon being changed negatively impact your life in any way?
I'd say it improves his life, since it gives him a new thing that doesn't matter to whine about.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 2:09:51 AM
#282:


Lord is he really in here bitching about that?

Looks like I went full block just in time.

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KamikazePotato
07/31/21 3:20:39 AM
#283:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
The best thing about Asmon is het got me watching Rich TBQH.
Watch some WoW videos of him. Night and day. FF14 is literally healing people's mental states.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 3:39:25 AM
#284:


KamikazePotato posted...
Watch some WoW videos of him. Night and day. FF14 is literally healing people's mental states.

I saw that clip where he was calmly watching a video of himself freaking out while playing WoW, lol.


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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/31/21 11:56:49 AM
#285:


trdl23 posted...
I'd say it improves his life, since it gives him a new thing that doesn't matter to whine about.
I guess so many people are just used to the circus of people pretending to have an imaginary "disorder" and companies pandering to those people by pretending they care so much about an arbitrary topic, so that fans of that company can pretend to be so impressed with how "thoughtful" they are.

Also the new icon look way less cool and way more like a stupid Kirby want or something, so yes it is objectively worse. My point is to prove the hypocrisy of this whole Twitter fueled pointless posturing by showing that there are still hundreds of things that will "trigger" these fake disorder people in almost every piece of media.

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X_Dante_X
07/31/21 12:50:54 PM
#286:


the old icon looked bad so its a whatever change
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Isquen
07/31/21 1:04:08 PM
#287:


"Hey, baby, are you a Paladin? Cuz that's an admirable failed crusade you're attempting."

Hm, I need to work on a pickup line. Instead, have a putdown line: your crusade is pointless, and I have a hard time believing you actually care, so shut it :)

Back on topic, I'm gonna try and do some current Extremes for the first time. Which ones are the least changed in ShB from their normal fights so I won't need a two hour primer on how to not die (glaring at YOU E8S.)?

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trdl23
07/31/21 1:43:19 PM
#288:


Isquen posted...
Back on topic, I'm gonna try and do some current Extremes for the first time. Which ones are the least changed in ShB from their normal fights so I won't need a two hour primer on how to not die
Innocence EX isn't that different from its normal mode. I'd argue it's easier, honestly, since the first phase doesn't exist anymore, and there's no item level sync downward.

Diamond EX is also pretty true to its normal version with one or two MAJOR exceptions, but it's also a damn fun gimmick fight.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/31/21 1:45:08 PM
#289:


I would say either Emerald or Innocence have the least changes. Both should be pretty easy by now too, although Emerald is on the current gear tier. Innocence is a launch trial and is mostly dodging aoes anyways. Ruby is also fairly unchanged although there are a couple major things to look out for. The other fights have more significant changes although most of them are significantly outgeared (and I never got around to the current EX which is something I will do when I resub for the events so I can't speak to that one).

The good news is that you don't really need a huge primer for EX trials. The 15 minute videos or a text guide are generally enough to suffice. If you are comparing to savage, they are a tier below those in terms of complexity, and multiple tiers under the most complex savage fights (4/8/12s).

edit: A tangent but speaking of text guides does anyone know a good updated resource for them? Saltedxiv used to be my go-to and it still has most everything from the current expac, but after the community drama ran the site manager out of the game it doesn't look like anyone has stepped up to take over, and the Balance has barely gotten its shit together since. So I'm not sure what things are gonna look like come Endwalker. It's a real shame.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 8:13:31 PM
#290:


Just happened to open Twitch and Esfand is currently strategizing before queuing into Cape Westwind.

I have yet to see a streamer not fall for this trick and it never gets old.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 8:32:55 PM
#291:


Pretty sure it took him an hour to get here.



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DoomTheGyarados
07/31/21 8:46:56 PM
#293:


That was a weird copy and paste error by me.

also cape westwind is serious.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 8:53:07 PM
#294:


VERY serious.

In fact, the strategy document looks just as complicated as the one for T9!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/31/21 9:25:26 PM
#295:


I do not like how long the Four-point Fury animation takes to come out.

I have Monk at 56 and it's still bothering me.

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xenosaga
07/31/21 9:28:47 PM
#296:


If I kind want to re-experience ARR / HW which of the big new XIV streamers would you recommend watching through?

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UshiromiyaEva
08/01/21 12:23:46 AM
#297:


xenosaga posted...
If I kind want to re-experience ARR / HW which of the big new XIV streamers would you recommend watching through?

https://youtu.be/odwaeuNP508

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DoomTheGyarados
08/01/21 12:44:19 AM
#298:


Asmongold reads all quest text, super awesome tbh

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BK_Sheikah00
08/01/21 8:28:54 AM
#299:


Today will be the Parting Glass. I am so ready.

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LordoftheMorons
08/01/21 6:10:27 PM
#300:


Rich is learning the true meaning of suffering trying to climb Kugane Tower

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UshiromiyaEva
08/01/21 6:13:48 PM
#301:


Please tell me he at least got the sightseeing guide.

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LordoftheMorons
08/01/21 6:14:43 PM
#302:


I actually have no idea! I think he's been trying to get up there for like 3 or 4 hours, though

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