Board 8 > FFXIV Topic Part 7 -- Sage: It Goes in Every Field

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trdl23
07/13/21 2:29:47 AM
#1:


Brushing off an ancient, obscure meme, please comm if you remember it.

I probably should have made it relevant to the fact that servers are getting overloaded right now, but I've had this title in my head for ages, so here we are.

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LordoftheMorons
07/13/21 3:12:05 AM
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Just had another WT one sticker away from three lines

...no dice

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Xiahou Shake
07/13/21 3:12:13 AM
#3:


That topic title sure brings me back!

Beat HW and am doing 3.X shenanigans now, it's hard to tear away from this game to play other stuff! My goal is to fully complete the MSQ before Endwalker drops. Seems quite doable even at a leisurely pace but this is a lot of game.

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MikeTavish
07/13/21 6:19:12 AM
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Tag

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 9:41:55 AM
#5:


Doing just MSQ will take very little effort to do by Endwalker. If you're in the Heavensward patches you're almost halfway there afterall. The amount of side content you want to do is going to keep increasing, though.

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JonThePenguin
07/13/21 10:23:58 AM
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Im entering the home stretch of Stormblood and it feels really bad skipping all the sidequests because thats just not how I normally do things. Just trying not to get much more overleveled (currently dragoon at 74 and just did the 67 trial). Really what I need to do is take some time to get my dancer hotbars sorted out and learn to play that so I have a second class ready to soak up the MSQ exp once I hit 80 on main.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 10:37:48 AM
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Dancer is super mega easy to play. It look intimidating looking at the list of abilities, but it honestly might be the biggest disparity between on paper description and execution imaginable.

You have a 2 ability single target GCD combo and a 2 ability AOE GCD combo with damage values for use in any situation with more than 1 enemy. Other than that......it's literally just keeping up your dances (your single target attacks become the dance buttons when you start dancing, you don't bind those seperately) . All the other GCD's and offensive oGCDs are random procs and you use them as they come up. Procs don't interrupt combos and don't need to BE comboed, you can straight up zero thought that stuff.

The only part of dance that requires any thought is when to use your oGCD buffs on 2 minute cooldown.

TECHNICALLY you also get to learn how many boss mechanics you get to be safe in for longer than other characters because of your dash, lol.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/13/21 10:42:38 AM
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Resubbed last month after being away from the game since about 5.4, crazy to see the servers this busy. Usually the game is a ghost town between the x.5 patch and the next expansion dropping. Seems as though all the publicity and big streamers like Asmongold switching have attracted a TON of new players which is great to see. I just wish he didn't roll on my server, as any time he is streaming there is a server queue in the hundreds.

I finally finished my last Pyros relic the other day, now to start on the Hydatos grind and then eventually get into the Bozja grind.

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Luis_Sera89
07/13/21 11:15:15 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Dancer is super mega easy to play. It look intimidating looking at the list of abilities, but it honestly might be the biggest disparity between on paper description and execution imaginable.

You have a 2 ability single target GCD combo and a 2 ability AOE GCD combo with damage values for use in any situation with more than 1 enemy. Other than that......it's literally just keeping up your dances (your single target attacks become the dance buttons when you start dancing, you don't bind those seperately) . All the other GCD's and offensive oGCDs are random procs and you use them as they come up. Procs don't interrupt combos and don't need to BE comboed, you can straight up zero thought that stuff.

The only part of dance that requires any thought is when to use your oGCD buffs on 2 minute cooldown.

TECHNICALLY you also get to learn how many boss mechanics you get to be safe in for longer than other characters because of your dash, lol.

Just a couple of things I'd add to that that aren't critical for normal content but are good to get into the habit of if you decided to go into raiding on DNC.

Firstly, don't be fooled by the 60 second buff timer on Standard Step into thinking you only need to use it that often to keep it applied. Standard Finish has an absurdly high potency and you should be using it whenever it's off cd. It also has insane range for an aoe skill that centers on the player. Likewise, you should probably also be using Flourish whenever it's up, as since it's on a 1 minute cd, it still lines up with the 2 minute cooldowns of your Technical Step and Devilment buff windows.

Speaking of buff windows, you'll want to save up your fan dances so that you can use all four during it (obviously don't let yourself overcap on fans). By the same note, try and manage your Esprit gauge so that it hits 100 during your buff window so that you can use Saber Dance twice during it.

Improvisation is very situational, you'll probably only use it during downtime or if your healers really need the help to avoid wiping.

As for dance partners, if you're in a group you know, use it on whoever you know does the highest dps. For pugs, order of priority generally goes SAM/BLM > DRG/MNK/NIN > SMN > RDM > MCH > BRD > DNC, but this is only as reliable as a player's ability to stay alive. Any live player is better than a dead one.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 11:40:56 AM
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Oh yeah forgot to mention dance partners. I've actually been spending time trying to memorize which DPS have the best average withing a specific level range to decide on my partner depending on content. I made a vow never to change partners during normal difficulty content because...I mean that's rude lol.

Improvisation really has to get changed in Endwalker. Like, at LEAST it needs to scale with the number of people in the party, at best it becomes a normal tick like meditation.

And yes, always using standard step on cooldown is important. I don't even know why they bother with the 60 second cooldown job gauge, just tricks new players. You could make a situational argument to not use technical step on cooldown if you know how far away a boss is from your party in a dungeon or alliance, but on trials/raids/bosses it's cooldown always.

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mccheyne
07/13/21 12:05:38 PM
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Running around the Churning Mists, and heading now for the Aery apparently. Got some ilvl 133 gear, so it looks like my augmented ironworks is starting to be replaced. Unfortunate, as I actually liked the look of it, especially the bow.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/13/21 12:12:37 PM
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mccheyne posted...
Running around the Churning Mists, and heading now for the Aery apparently. Got some ilvl 133 gear, so it looks like my augmented ironworks is starting to be replaced. Unfortunate, as I actually liked the look of it, especially the bow.
You realize you can very easily glam new equipment if you want

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/13/21 1:12:30 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I made a vow never to change partners during normal difficulty content because...I mean that's rude lol.

I mean if they die you should immediately change to someone else. Dying on the dancer is more rude, and you're literally losing dps for the group which is even ruder.

Also very "fun" unintuitive fact about Standard step is that in an aoe situation you actually don't want to keep Standard step on cooldown because of damage falloff making the value of procs and fan dance MUCH higher. You really do only care about the buff then. I forget the exact number where this becomes true but it's a lot lower than you'd think, somewhere around 3-5? Anyways. It's less fun but more dps.

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Shadow Dino
07/13/21 1:12:38 PM
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Improvisation is hilariously bad. Such a joke of a capstone ability.

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xenosaga
07/13/21 1:16:22 PM
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Anyone know what headpiece this is, or is it one of those chest/head combo ones?
I'm all about masks so definitely want to try to find whatever it is.


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Luis_Sera89
07/13/21 1:19:48 PM
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That's a set of dungeon gear for Disciple of Magic classes that you get from the Sunken Temple of Qarn.

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xenosaga
07/13/21 1:24:02 PM
#17:


Awesome, thanks.

Aww shucks, is one of those combo pieces.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 1:44:21 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I mean if they die you should immediately change to someone else. Dying on the dancer is more rude, and you're literally losing dps for the group which is even ruder.

Oh well yeah of course.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 3:44:24 PM
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....so it seems the real secret of completing Doman Enclave is I can make fucking BANK off crafting these minions.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/13/21 9:16:42 PM
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Was trying to figure out what the hell was going on in Ishgard, only to realize that unbeknownst to me that Rich dude who does the podcast with Asmongold plays on my server and is currently streaming the final ARR cutscene.

https://youtu.be/cZiIYVkFUok

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 1:12:24 AM
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I love this dumb snake and her cat girlfriend.

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KamikazePotato
07/14/21 2:34:24 AM
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I really liked the final cutscene after you complete the Doman Enclave. That was the real reward, and it was worth it.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 2:45:36 AM
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Yeah, it was nice!

I am glad I can stop holding onto gear for donations though and can start leveling desynth with everything that drops.

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ninkendo
07/14/21 2:57:24 AM
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mccheyne
07/14/21 12:41:47 PM
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Damn that was a fairly large story dump after The Aery.

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trdl23
07/14/21 12:55:50 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Yeah, it was nice!

I am glad I can stop holding onto gear for donations though and can start leveling desynth with everything that drops.
The real meta is throwing allagan platinum and/or clear demimateria every week.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 8:43:33 PM
#27:


How do I have 900 hours of playtime and am only now accidentally discovering that this game contains a MOBA inside of it?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/14/21 10:25:33 PM
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Us normies do not speak of PvP lest the devs notice and give PvP players more sick mounts we will never have

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MikeTavish
07/14/21 10:35:10 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Us normies do not speak of PvP lest the devs notice and give PvP players more sick mounts we will never have

Speak for yourself. I love my top 100 feast mounts.

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LordoftheMorons
07/14/21 10:56:50 PM
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I've only tried FF14 pvp once and I had no idea what the fuck was going on

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BK_Sheikah00
07/14/21 11:16:53 PM
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I just got the mount for 20k Wolf Marks. Don't know if there are any other mounts I can get.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 11:30:00 PM
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Holy shit this game is just blowing up right now. The starter cities are swarming with more players than ever, and it's a sea of sprouts. I haven't matched in a dungeon with a non-sprout in like a week.

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ninkendo
07/15/21 2:19:38 AM
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Oh hey sounds like a good time to start back up maybe I won't get people who just try to rush the dungeons as quickly as possible

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BK_Sheikah00
07/15/21 8:44:01 AM
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That's why tank is best

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xenosaga
07/15/21 9:11:15 AM
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All these new people around has me thinking of finally trying out tanking.

Also MOBA mode sounds kinda interesting. Haven't touched any PvP, worth getting into?

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Isquen
07/15/21 9:44:11 AM
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I usually do Frontline whenever it's part of WT.

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ninkendo
07/15/21 9:44:42 AM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
That's why tank is best

it's the only thing I know!

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xenosaga
07/15/21 10:10:13 AM
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Saw a heard of TaruTaru's running around and it kind of makes me wish for April Fools they would change everyone into Taru's for the day.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
07/15/21 10:16:26 AM
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I've been grinding Eureka the last couple weeks and it has been nuts to see how populated the instances have been. There have been BA runs going on in Hydatos almost every night. At this rate I'll have my Physeos and full elemental healer gear by end of the week. The thing that sucks is I enter Hydatos planning to grind crystals for all my other job final weapons, but end up doing BA every day.

It's not just new players, there seems to be a lot of high level players online as well, which is crazy because usually the post x.5 patch the game is fucking dead until the next expansion comes out.

2 of my close IRL friends also resubbed for the first time since Stormblood 4.0 ended

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mccheyne
07/15/21 11:03:57 AM
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Just did The Vault and the accompanying story stuff.....

RIP Haurchefant :(

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UshiromiyaEva
07/15/21 11:09:27 AM
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That sentence or equivilant statements are always going to end in an ellipses, lol.

The Vault is a top 10 dungeon, too.

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KamikazePotato
07/15/21 11:31:56 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
The Vault is a top 10 dungeon, too.
I HAVE THE POWER

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SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED

AND NOW THE FINAL CURTAIN

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mccheyne
07/15/21 1:11:39 PM
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Our healer was very rusty (so they said themselves) and we wiped to the last boss a couple times. They were tied with me to a holy chain and kept moving towards me as I tried to run away to break it. Was all good after that though.

KamikazePotato posted...
I HAVE THE POWER

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SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED

AND NOW THE FINAL CURTAIN
We heard "SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED" quite often!!

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UshiromiyaEva
07/15/21 1:22:05 PM
#44:


As far as MSQ dungeon bosses go it's one of the harder ones!

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Isquen
07/15/21 1:24:52 PM
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Fun to tank, though. It kind of bridges the slog that exists from ARR to Sohm Al.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/15/21 1:29:09 PM
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Yeah tanking The Vault is easy to figure out but fun to do.

The responsibility for the last boss of it is mostly on the healer, so I could see having a rusty one making it harder.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/15/21 2:45:54 PM
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Isquen posted...
Fun to tank, though. It kind of bridges the slog that exists from ARR to Sohm Al.

I dunno if you are including it or not but Sohm Al's first two pulls are always clenchers for me. Those cats and poisons stacks are nasty.

More clenching ensues when you wake up the dragons for exp and really piss off the healer

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UshiromiyaEva
07/15/21 8:23:05 PM
#48:


Man it's so strange how crazy hard they went in on the Dualsense Rumble for the PS5 version of the game in wierd specific ways. Did Tam Tara hard and the controller rumbles in a uncomfortable pulse in total sync with the girl laughing before and during the final boss??

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UshiromiyaEva
07/16/21 6:03:07 PM
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Took a look back in on the Asmon stuff.

Apparently he cleared T5 at min ilevel with randos in one session after looking nothing up.

Terrifying.

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LordoftheMorons
07/16/21 6:11:28 PM
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His second run wasn't min ilvl; he queued through DF (I think they were all sprouts, though).

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