Board 8 > Hearthstone Topic - Buffs, Nerfs, and Quilboars! Oh My!

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This was after I congratulated him for hitting legend. I have him blocked on Gamefaqs as well.

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No thanks but good for him.

I mean I guess if everyone else in this topic wants to give him another chance we could try but I feel like we've been down this road too many times.

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"Turns out talking to a bunch of top 100 legend players teaches you that it isn't RNG after all."

Hasn't everyone been telling him that from day one?

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Yeah, well, it's ulti. He has to hear it when he's willing to listen.

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The implication is that if it's from "the best of the best" then it's true but if it's us (which I mean you guys are plenty good still, not what I mean) then we're just full of hogwash.

Screw him
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I can't pretend to have played any over the last year, but I still follow the topic to see the state of things as time goes on.

Keep that bullshit faaaaaar away from here.

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Imagine believing Ulti when he says he's changed.

Yep Charlie Brown, you'll kick the football this time!

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10k huh

My MMR must be good if I entered at around 2k

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Camden posted...

"Turns out talking to a bunch of top 100 legend players teaches you that it isn't RNG after all."

Hasn't everyone been telling him that from day one?

Not only that but it's easier for him to say that when he's hit legend. Would he maintain the same attitude next month if he was struggling to hit legend?

I only messaged him because I got a pop-up saying he hit legend, and I assumed it was his first time since having paid for someone else to get him there. His response was that he normally gets there each month (dunno since when) and this month was especially hard.

Anyway, I'm not stumping for him, but I'm not trying to shoot him down, either. It's in my nature to give people chances periodically.

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skullbone posted...

No thanks but good for him.

I mean I guess if everyone else in this topic wants to give him another chance we could try but I feel like we've been down this road too many times.

Agreed.

Fool me seven hundred and ninety three times, shame on me.

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Like if he has his own positive community to stay engaged with regarding hearthstone then that's fantastic for him and I'm glad he's appeared to turn things around.

But we can go ahead and just keep those two worlds separate. Him with his positive vibes over there and us with our positive vibes over here.

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I filter him out completely but I guess others cant do this is fine

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Also this reveal list kinda sucks especially since its coming out Thursday

I guess its Memorial Day weekend but theres just so much mystery coming into the next couple of days

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UltimaterializerX posted...

On a far different note, the mini set comes out in two days and we only have what, 8 cards spoiled? Didn't we have the entire thing by now last time?

I think all the cards were revealed by the 48 hour mark or so, but not much sooner because I distinctly remember floating out my idea of just releasing the set without revealing any of the cards or even giving a release date. Just, here's the patch go see our new shit. You can't do that with the main sets but the mini-sets, especially with how late and compact the reveals have been so far, seem like they wouldn't really suffer for it.

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Good luck this time around, Ulti. Hope whatever's working for you continues to work.

I have nothing really to say about the cards revealed so far, other than we've already seen two potential hand disruption cards and the flavor on one is fantastic.

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hm I think this month I try wild and classic for like, the first time ever

I never played HS during the classic era and while I played most of the archetypes a ton it should be a nice breath of fresh air. I was pretty apprehensive about wild because why would I want to play against decks I played against a ton in constructed but now the meta actually looks diverse and different than what standard contained. I can only play like, Murloc Shaman and Tax Pally/Darkglare Warlock though lol

What are the key legendaries in wild? The Highlander stuff, Baku, Loatheb, and Soularium seem obvious. I looked and saw some offbeat standard legendaries are big too (Sayge, Flurgl, and Willow in particular)

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Win Streakd right away in classic, might be the MMR but Zoo seems quite good (too lazy to try Miracle Rogue)

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Miracle Rogue and Combo Druid are easily the best decks in that mode. The only difficult lines of play are how to play Miracle when not drawing Auctioneer.

Eh, they probably are better higher up but Zoo is good at punishing the jank people play at Bronze and is the best counter to Druid. (Plus it and Handlock have the advantage of making the opponent have to guess which one you are)

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I finally got the kill your opponent with enraged mankirk done. When I say finally it was not like I've been trying to do it but I've been close a lot of times.

I've been taking a more face approach wtih my eleshaman lately and it was working better, I got up to gold 3 before the month end. Putting alex in the deck was a great decision.
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I was kind of bummed that, after having so many packs saved up last time around that I didn't need to buy the mini-set, I'd be down 2,000 gold this time around. After seeing the full set, I feel like I can just save the gold.

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Yeah Im not too excited about the legendaries but eh, maybe Ill give them a shot

More Pally Nerfs btw: FDOS is back to getting 2 1 drop minions for 1 mana, and Hand of Adal is a 2/1 draw a card buff

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Oh they removed Maeiv in BG as well, damn guess I have to use Omu now


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When are those nerfs coming?
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With the miniset tomorrow

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/hearthstone/23676205/20-4-patch-notes

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What is the functional difference on that Unbound Elemental change?

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For a spell that damages it, it wont be buffed before taking the damage

probably just changing how it resolves even though the only real practical card for it is elemental destruction in wild


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If you cast an overload spell that exactly kills it, it used to get the buff and survive at one health. Now it dies.

So don't Lightning Bolt your own elemental.

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I don't think I agree with that change unless they plan on reworking all the other stuff that happens whenever you do x thing. Haven't effects like that always taken place before the card resolving?

Example being like, I cast a lightning storm on ogremancer, ogremancer produces the 2/2 first and then gets killed by lightning storm. I don't really get why unbound elemental should be an exception to that seemingly fixed process.
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Oh one change I heard is that it will work with Guidance, so if they make more cards like that where the overload is optional then thats relevant

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Even overloading doesn't happen if the card doesn't resolve (IE you won't overload if you get counterspelled) so even if its optional, I would think it would still have to abide by the "effects before resolving" in all forms just the same.
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Just keep them completely off the board. Every single turn. lol

What exactly does Mutanus's hero power do? And why is Maiev being removed? Hexruin Marauder is interesting.

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azuarc posted...

Just keep them completely off the board. Every single turn. lol

What exactly does Mutanus's hero power do? And why is Maiev being removed? Hexruin Marauder is interesting.

Mutanus basically devours the stats of one minion onto another, giving them a soul devourer effect

Maeiv is just op no matter whats in, just too easy to get triples and farm lobbies. I think shes been first in first place finishes since Elise got nerfed on hsreplay?

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Mini-set is out. I've seen a few people (and botmathematician) speculate on whether the userbase should not buy it, so just so we're clear: yes, buying the mini-set with gold is almost certainly better than buying 20 packs with gold (unless you don't want any legendaries or epics from the mini-set, and also highroll with the 20 packs). The dust value is 2520, which is more than 2054 that you get from dusting the average contents of 20 packs.

ALSO in the realm of things you should probably think about buying:

Standard packs and wild packs. They seem to have starting pity timers at 10, like every other type of pack, meaning you're guaranteed a legendary in the first 10 packs (averaging a legendary in 5.5 packs). They are buyable with gold (so I just bought them one at a time until I hit a legendary from each).

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metroid composite posted...

Standard packs and wild packs. They seem to have starting pity timers at 10, like every other type of pack, meaning you're guaranteed a legendary in the first 10 packs (averaging a legendary in 5.5 packs). They are buyable with gold (so I just bought them one at a time until I hit a legendary from each).

I was so confused then I looked at the shop and was like, let's try one and got ETC, cool.

Also Mecha Jaraxxus is in the shop, that looks... tempting. But Nemsy is a fun Hero. >_<

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Don't see myself using another Warlock hero besides N'zoth

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UltimaterializerX posted...

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Welp, guess it's time for me to stop being cheap and craft two lillypad lurkers, cause I've been playing a gimped elemental shaman in casual for a while, and I like Lillypad Lurkers conceptually. Can't be worse than the Jewels of N'Zoth I crafted for funsies right? Maybe Elemental Shaman will actually be good.

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It's no Tickatus, but not a bad first Mutanus. My murloc buddy got to attack the opponent three times and I finished the game with six health remaining, so it pretty much won me the game two times over.

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I gotta say even though they're 500-600 a pop, I like having at least the option of buying previous card backs. There's one or two I really would like
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I must be weird because I don't see any reason for cosmetics in this game. I don't use skins and I find it annoying when there are so many alternate heroes or alternate art for each class because I liked just looking up and knowing what class my opponent was playing instead of stopping to think about it. I do use two alternate heroes, but they were the first ones released for their classes (and also the only ones I own.)

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