Board 8 > Help me select between two jobs!

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Job 1:

$27.15 per hour. Four 10 hour shifts, Monday through Thursday, working one weekend day per month. Standard benefits: 401k 3% match, 16ish days (8 hour days) of PTO per year, average health/dental/vision. 20 minute commute. Full-time, permanent position. High productivity requirements.

Job 2:

$45 per hour. Five 8 hour shifts, weekdays with potential to work weekend days. No benefits, no health insurance. 40 minute commute. Full-time, temporary position for 3+ months, then transition to working continent/as needed (unsure of weekly hours associated after initial 3 month period). Priority to acquire a full-time job at this institution, which is well-known for good benefits/compensation. Medium productivity requirements.

I can provide more details if you're familiar with healthcare/hospital careers and have more questions, and even more details if you're familiar with occupational therapy and have more questions. I'm also not married to my current location as I'm looking for a house right now.

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2

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I think when you do the math on spending 40 minutes a day driving and getting your own health insurance the two salaries are going to look extremely similar

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Definitely 1

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1

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2 has more upside and is probably worth it if you can deal with another job search in the next year or so if all goes bad.

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With the caveat, that if you dont need the money at all for whatever reason, taking 2 and trying to roll it into a benefited full time position at the same salary seems lucrative. You would have to be willing to walk away if it doesnt happen and be unemployed again.

seems unlikely, but figured Id throw that out there

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2 imo

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i think the question mark of what happens after the three months is big

people are going to say 1 here because of the benefits balancing the wage difference and commute but...

for job 2, after the 3 months is your reliable work going to decrease, or are you likely to get a full time position that brings in the benefits that makes it clearly better than job 1? Especially if you can just move closer to that area to get a good commute.

To me this "3 month period" is literally not the choice, no way you would pick job 2 over job 1 for these 3 month period details. whats gong to happen after the 3 months is what you are choosing if you go down that path.

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Job 2 seems way more predatory tbh with stringing you along with "priority for full time with good benefits/compensation" so it's really if that "priority" translates to getting that full time job or are they gonna fuck you over

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Job 1

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Job 2 isnt predatory, its working contingent at a prestigious hospital in my area. PRN jobs are just like this, you work as needed for a much higher salary. There is an initial period where they would want me daily, but after that they wont have a daily need for me. Its probably covering for a medical leave or maternity leave.

There is no guarantee of any full time position in the future, but this hospital always seems to hire from within. I was a clinical student there, which is why they are looking at me now. @Bane_Of_Despair

I wont be able to roll Job 2 into a full time salary at this rate. I would probably make like $30-$33 an hour entry level starting (they may offer more than entry level) but with the great benefits package. What do you mean by if I dont need the money at all @masterplum ?

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Job 1

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i'd say job 2, as long as you feel good about getting full time/aren't afraid to hunt again after 3 months

(edit) just saw the 40m commute. this makes me lean job 1.
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MajinZidane posted...

Job 2 isnt predatory, its working contingent at a prestigious hospital in my area. PRN jobs are just like this, you work as needed for a much higher salary. There is an initial period where they would want me daily, but after that they wont have a daily need for me. Its probably covering for a medical leave or maternity leave.

There is no guarantee of any full time position in the future, but this hospital always seems to hire from within. I was a clinical student there, which is why they are looking at me now. @Bane_Of_Despair

I wont be able to roll Job 2 into a full time salary at this rate. I would probably make like $30-$33 an hour entry level starting (they may offer more than entry level) but with the great benefits package. What do you mean by if I dont need the money at all @masterplum ?

Presumably if job 1 pays enough.

Job 2 sounds obviously better to me because it pays about the same to start and more afterwards, and shorter less-demanding shifts. Is the 40 minutes of commute why you don't want it?

did you like anyone at either job and think "i wanna hang out with this person at work"

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Job 1, working four days a week compared to five is extremely valuable imo

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I guess i just don't understand job 2 fully. For three months you're getting no benefits whatsoever and working full time, and then after that (if they choose to keep you on payroll), you get benefits but no guarantee of work?

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1 for sure

2 is a temp thing i don't gamble with that. they hire you right out or they dont. it's also further away and 5 days? cant beat 3 days off and steady employment/benefits

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Can you provide some more detail as to the difference between medium and high "productivity requirements"? Like do you anticipate Job 2 will be easier/less stressful because of it?

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It seems to me that job 2 is financially inferior between the commute, no benefits, and no real guaranteed hours past the intro period. You're basically betting that they'll hire you full time before you need to find a more stable job. If it does pay off and you get a full time position out of it relatively quickly, then I'm sure you'll be happy with it in the long run, though.

I would absolutely not take that job, but that's just me.

MajinZidane posted...

Job 2 isnt predatory, its working contingent at a prestigious hospital in my area. PRN jobs are just like this, you work as needed for a much higher salary. There is an initial period where they would want me daily, but after that they wont have a daily need for me. Its probably covering for a medical leave or maternity leave.

There is no guarantee of any full time position in the future, but this hospital always seems to hire from within. I was a clinical student there, which is why they are looking at me now. @Bane_Of_Despair

I wont be able to roll Job 2 into a full time salary at this rate. I would probably make like $30-$33 an hour entry level starting (they may offer more than entry level) but with the great benefits package. What do you mean by if I dont need the money at all @masterplum ?

What I mean is, if you are cool with the 3 month job really being 3 months then take more money for less work.

If you need it to be a job job I would go with 1

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I probably choose job 1 because it sounds more stable. I assume benefits means they are looking for you to have a career.

If you feel confident that job 2 would lead to a better career, you may want to consider that, though.

I guess a lot depends on what you want for your career. Forget the other details for a minute... which type of work would you prefer to be involved in?

I've had both 20 and 40 minute commutes. The 40 minute commute just ended up being prone to multiple issues and was constantly 45-50+ minutes. At the same time, you can alleviate that by moving (depending on your situation ofc).

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Can you provide some more detail as to the difference between medium and high "productivity requirements"? Like do you anticipate Job 2 will be easier/less stressful because of it?

@CaptainOfCrush : I think that Job 2 will be somewhat less stressful with more understanding provided from colleagues and managers regarding level of productivity. I know that with Job 1, there are meetings to ensure you are hitting production targets and a constant reminder to make sure you pump out enough output. I anticipate Job 2 will have less of that.

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I'd probably pick job 2 then. Over the years, stress has become the single most important issue for me when pursuing a job.

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@neoneaper : excellent advice. The two jobs are different roles that I really need to consider. If Im honest with myself, I prefer the type of work with Job 1. I do enjoy the work with Job 2 and could grow to enjoy it more with more experience.

I have had a 40 minute commute and I really dont like it. Im only entertaining it because Im planning on moving within the next year anyway. Im single with no kids, its fairly easy for me to move to a different city.

My biggest holdup is that Job 2 is the place Ive always wanted to work making way more money at first. Its also difficult to pass on a full time position. If Job 2 doesnt hire me after the temp period, I need to find a new job. Granted, there is potential to work contingent at multiple hospitals on an as needed basis, which is somewhat easier to find positions for.

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Job 2 maybe.....but I'd take neon reaper advice he's smart

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Agreed hes smart

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Depends on how easy it is to find a job in your field. Like if Job 2 doesn't work out into anything more substantial after 3 months how easily could you find a Job 1 like offer again? If the answer is fairly easily then go with 2 since it's minimal risk to see if it works out. If the answer is reasonably difficult then just got with the stability of 1 (plus 4 day work weeks are nice)

Do job 2 for the 3 or 4 months.
Then job 1 after.

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1 sounds a lot better to me with the commuting and day off and actual long term work and benefits, as long as you can handle 10 hour days.

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MajinZidane posted...

Job 1:

$27.15 per hour. Four 10 hour shifts, Monday through Thursday, working one weekend day per month. Standard benefits: 401k 3% match, 16ish days (8 hour days) of PTO per year, average health/dental/vision. 20 minute commute. Full-time, permanent position. High productivity requirements.

I went with this one.

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Sounds like it was a win-win so good for getting yourself in a good position to have these options

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i was gonna say 1 because who knows with temp jobs, so good on ya imo

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4 days a week is the dream tbh, you made the right choice

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I do a rotation of 3 weeks 5 8s and 3 weeks 4 10s and vastly prefer the 4 10s, especially without rotation its another 50 odd days off a year which is pretty considerable when you actually think about it.

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