Board 8 > Hearthstone: New Core Set and an expansion I guess

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ESY16 posted...

Turn 7 from a Mage:

Reduce cost of all spells by 1, Draw 2 cards, Draw 3 cards and reduce their cost by 3, Summon 14 1/1s with rush, Deal 5 damage, Summon a 4/4 taunt, Draw 2 cards, Draw 2 cards, Gain a mana crystal, Gain 2 mana crystals, Summon 4 2/2s, Deal 2 damage. 47 mana worth of cards.

Yeah but now they have to wait until turn 9 to do that. Balanced!

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In all honesty it is a huge hit. I doubt spell mage will want to include Lunacy at all personally when you get so much consistency from the Burn in a lot of matchups, waiting until turn 3 at the earliest to play it limits your snowball potential a lot against faster decks

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Honestly it could be enough to drop Lunacy, since 4 mana do nothing is tougher than 2 mana do nothing but with Mages mana cheating and Pally possibly keeping Aggro in check still it might not matter

You could compare it to Lunas Pocket Galaxy or Skull of Manari. 4 mana do nothing could be ok in that case /shrug

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I'm not sure you put Lunacy in your deck anymore.

But will you pick lunacy off of a discover? Oh you bet. Plenty of discover effects in that deck. Runed Orb can discover DoL, but you can also just randomly generate multiple different mage minions which can also discover.

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Microadjustments coming to Arena tomorrow as well as the removal of watch posts. Won't be sad to see the watch posts gone. Based on Blizzard's history (and general lack of knowledge with what to do with Arena) my guess is Demon Hunter and Priest become unplayable and Shaman becomes the best class.

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Humble Blessing paladin is so OP in Duels now. I love it when i roll paladin and I hate playing against it.

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https://hsreplay.net/replay/JscEWJBPyNAKVJpBWeJx4C

I have no words
(You can just skip to the end)

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I just suffered a similar defeat at 11 wins!

I topdecked Alexstazsa which was going to give me lethal. I trade off my tirion to make room on board.

I play Alex.

Because it's a battlecry I draw a card. It's a bomb. The next card is also a bomb. I'm dead.

My 12 wins turned into 11 wins because I top decked lethal and it killed me with bombs.

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I hate how stingy I am with my gold when it comes to packs, but a new hero skin is available and SOLD. I'm not even going to use this one but I'm probably still going to spend that 1,500 on it.

Gonna count myself lucky that I pretty much have the opposite of a gambling problem in real life.

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Yeah I went and spent 20 on the crossroads bundle after dodging like, two years worth of stuff to buy. (I think the last thing I paid for was the Thunder King bundle?)

It actually was pretty good though, got 4 legendaries from it (Flurgl, Smythe, the Portal Warlock and the bad Priest one). and I play this so much that I guess it's worth it.

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The changes are out. I'm gonna try running control priest again to see how thats faring

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My first new match was against libram Paladin and I actually gasped when he used pen flinger to kill two of my minions.

I almost won but I was playing Celestial Druid and I spent the first 5 turns doing nothing so it was too hard to come back.

Think I'm just going to stick to control now and see how it goes.

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skullbone posted...

My first new match was against libram Paladin and I actually gasped when he used pen flinger to kill two of my minions.

I don't expect the Pen Flinger 'nerf' to make any difference to Libram Paladin where I play, which is why I think the nerfs are meh overall. Pen Flinger has always been used mostly as minion removal against me.

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I'm doing my normal f2p thing after a nerf--tabbing between high lengend players and seeing what they are playing against so I don't have to craft stuff myself to test.

Lots of Warlock, Priest, DH, some rogue, aggro paladin, a little bit of no minion mage (including with lunacy), some druid, some warrior.

No librams seen at high legend so far.

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According to vicious syndicate live data the top 3 decks are face hunter, doomhammer shaman, and aggro paladin, probably because so many people are trying to force lunacy on 4 and control warlock. I can at least confirm that face hunter feels good and casting piercing shot on your own 1/1 is a very satisfying and surprisingly common way to find lethal.

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CybrMonkey posted...

casting piercing shot on your own 1/1 is a very satisfying and surprisingly common way to find lethal.

I just storm-striked a totem for lethal.

Still a lot of mages today. I was already winning most of those once I switched to shaman. Druid and warrior are obnoxious matches, though, where you get them to near-lethal and then can't finish the job. Once, I lost because there was no minion to hit with Storm Strike and I didn't have the mana to cast totem, too. Definitely going to be adapting to dropping a couple underperforming cards for devolving missiles.

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Oh they announced the watchpost legendary is gonna get a dust refund, lots of dust now

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I just hit Legend (from Rank 3) using Murloc Shaman. Saw a TON of hunters, a few mages, and a couple of warlocks/other stuff. 1 Paladin, 1 Priest.

### murloc
# Class: Shaman
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Gryphon
#
# 2x (0) Murloc Tinyfin
# 1x (1) Guidance
# 2x (1) Murloc Tidecaller
# 2x (1) Spawnpool Forager
# 1x (2) Cagematch Custodian
# 2x (2) Crabrider
# 1x (2) Firemancer Flurgl
# 2x (2) Lushwater Murcenary
# 2x (2) Lushwater Scout
# 2x (2) Murloc Tidehunter
# 2x (2) Prize Vendor
# 2x (2) South Coast Chieftain
# 2x (3) Coldlight Seer
# 2x (3) Magicfin
# 2x (3) Nofin Can Stop Us
# 2x (3) Whack-A-Gnoll Hammer
# 1x (4) Kazakus, Golem Shaper

Today has been a good day for Duels but I can't help but feel cheated:

Paladin - 11 wins

Warlock - 11 wins

Shaman - 11 wins

5 total losses on 11 wins.

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Apparently my opponents don't need the 1,600 dust because I just played three straight games against Lunacy Mage.

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Do people who are still playing Paladin know that they don't have to keep playing Paladin

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im actually lucky I could even play Shaman.

So what's the worst class in the game right now?
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Druid?

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hsreplay says priest. Ive had good success with my control priest so I find that a bit surprising

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Miracle Priest can really go off too, so I'm also surprised by that.

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I always feel like Priest winrates are deceiving since a lot of people play janky builds and the skill to pilot the class is higher than the other classes by a considerable amount.

Like that might be the case for all ranks but probably not higher up

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I have play a friend so the first person who challenges me when im logged into the game will get the quest

Neptune#12910

They didn't fix the bug where your collection continuously tells you that you have cards to dust? When I saw the play button no longer blue I thought that would've been fixed with it.

Edit: Never mind, I'm an idiot and didn't dust my tavern brawl pack yet.

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I just killed an opponent with Mankirk's Wife and I didn't get the achievement. I feel cheated

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Emeraldegg posted...

So what's the worst class in the game right now?

Judging purely by the decks people are taking to grandmasters...might be Shaman?

(None of the GMs brought Shaman this week unless I missed one. There are some GMs running warrior right now, when there weren't any last week. And definitely all the nerfed classes are still around--paladin, mage, rogue. As well as all the other classes that showed up last week, which means Priest, Demon Hunter, Hunter, Warlock, Druid are still around too. So 8 classes. With Warrior making 9).

HSReplay has Shaman only in 7th, but Shaman decks are mostly pretty aggro and straightforward to play, and that always inflates HSReplay numbers.

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I'm beginning to think the only reason I run C'thun in one of my four Priest decklists is because I want the nerfed Hellfire card and not because I actually want to run C'thun.

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In the entire time it has existed I have managed to assemble C'thun one time and I still lost that game.

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Having to spend 20 mana across 4 separate cards to shuffle a card into your deck that then costs 10 mana to play when you finally draw it isn't exactly a stable win condition

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Not like Priest has much else to choose from.

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_stingers_ posted...

Having to spend 20 mana across 4 separate cards to shuffle a card into your deck that then costs 10 mana to play when you finally draw it isn't exactly a stable win condition

Tell that to my C'thun Highlander Rogue from 2016!

The original C'thun makes me think the spells just needed to be better for this concept to work. Although who knows if the original C'thun package would work in 2021 either. Probably not

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Justicar C'Thun Warrior is still my favorite deck of all time

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Hey remember Rin

41 mana for a bunch of smallish minions and one big one

Crazy that saw play but the meta was slower back then

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Out of all the Priest decks I've been playing, I think my favorite is the N'zoth version. Was kind of a bummer when I realized I needed to find a dragon to add to the deck because the 5/3 with rush and divine shield was gone.

It's still not particularly great, but there's no real great minions to play on curve for 2 and 3 that I want to get back from N'zoth.

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Camden posted...

It's still not particularly great

Update, it's actually pretty gosh darn good against all of my silver rank homies. Losing all those bonus stars chasing the Oh My Yogg dream was a blessing in disguise for the win rate of this deck.

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Huh, I thought Warrior looked terrible for a while but now it's one of the stronger classes

I guess it has some pretty good refuel/tempo cards though. Whatley and Conditioning for the former and Playmaker and Parade Leader with Bumper Cars from the latter (If you play BG, you'll learn that a Racer with both in the game will make a 3/1 and a 5/1 with rush, pretty strong)

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I learned of an interaction with Wildfire. if you are a warlock and somehow you play wildfire, your lifetap will do 3 dmg to you instead.

Just thought it was funny.

Yeah I've seen oh my yogg cause that interaction before

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Does it make priest heal for 3?

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Nah its kinda like Fallen Hero in TGT, only really works for Mage and Warlock (but will work for a shadow formed priest)

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Should also work on Hunter's hero power right? (And presumably a bunch of death knight hero powers).

But yeah, it's +1 damage, so it's limited to hero powers that use the word "damage" specifically, and not ones that heal or give your hero +attack.

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LiquidOshawott posted...

Hey remember Rin

41 mana for a bunch of smallish minions and one big one

Crazy that saw play but the meta was slower back then

The meta is only as slow as the slowest viable win condition currently available to control decks.

(Aggro decks will get out-valued at some point--you generally don't even need a win condition to beat aggro).

Right now running any win condition slower than Warlock's win conditions is just dubious. Like...what are you hoping to beat by running that win condition? The priest mirror? And C'Thun the Shattered falls under that category.

In the past? Yeah, no problem, two years ago when control warriors were running Archivist Elysiana, of COURSE you would slam C'Thun the Shattered into those decks. It has the upside of shuffling five reasonably playable cards into your deck, with the guarantee of not drawing any of those cards in your opening hand, A+ amazing card!

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Just went 17-1 with this deck:

### BEAST
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Gryphon
#
# 2x (1) Adorable Infestation
# 2x (1) Arcane Shot
# 2x (1) Demon Companion
# 2x (1) Intrepid Initiate
# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (1) Wolpertinger
# 2x (1) Wound Prey
# 2x (2) Imprisoned Felmaw
# 2x (2) Kolkar Pack Runner
# 2x (2) Quick Shot
# 1x (2) Wriggling Horror
# 1x (3) Mankrik
# 2x (4) Piercing Shot
# 1x (4) Rinling's Rifle
# 2x (4) Warsong Wrangler
# 1x (5) Barak Kodobane
# 2x (5) Trampling Rhino
#

AAECAR8Ej+MDyuMD5e8D5/ADDaK5A9zMA6LOA4LQ
A7nSA4biA9zqA5/sA/DsA9vtA6mfBKqfBLugBAA=

Deck code split into 2 lines because it's too long. Only loss was to Murloc Shaman.

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VeryInsane posted...

Huh, I thought Warrior looked terrible for a while but now it's one of the stronger classes

I guess it has some pretty good refuel/tempo cards though. Whatley and Conditioning for the former and Playmaker and Parade Leader with Bumper Cars from the latter (If you play BG, you'll learn that a Racer with both in the game will make a 3/1 and a 5/1 with rush, pretty strong)

So I decided to play this deck at Rank 4 Diamond and said I would stop when I lose, hit legend. "Cool"

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I was farming rush warriors every time I played one with my control priest. Probably not a lot of those on the ladder though

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