Board 8 > Hearthstone: New Core Set and an expansion I guess

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Camden posted...

I'm not sure if this is an actual thing you can do in the game or if someone just mentioned the idea once and it's now a thing in my head, but when you challenge someone to a game can you use one of their decks for the challenge?

I'm almost certain I've done that before. If you want to add me to test it, my BNet is Boxxy#11119.

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I'll try it out tomorrow, I've got the play a friend quest but wanted to save it until the new rewards track starts.

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What time does the new expansion come out?

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Ill just say this

farewell, fellow humans!

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I was playing some midrange shaman this morning and beat every druid I played. Lost to both hunters I fought since base shaman had no healing, but being able to control the board against druid and make a lot of taunts seemed to shut down their gameplay so that was nice


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Playing classic has been so refreshing, I hadn't played actual hearthstone(only battlegrounds) in almost a year but classic feels so much more skill than rng based.

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So apparently them not doing events and letting everyone know what they're getting xp/reward-wise up front also means they're not doing the quest chain on expansion release any longer either.

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Followed up last expansion where I had 7 legendaries in 33 packs or something with 3 in 63. Also, only got 300 some dust from duplicates which has to be an all time low for me. Ouch.

And it still didn't fix the crafting button in the collection manager still telling me I have cards able to be disenchanted.

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I can't get in at all. It's just hanging on the door screen for the past 30 minutes. Doesn't even have the sign saying full or anything. Just the doors and nothing happening

There was an error starting your game. Please wait a few minutes and try again.

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I still haven't been able to get past the doors

I just got in without any issues - that's bizarre.

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2 legendaries in 80 packs. 5 golden packs were all 4 common with 1 rare. Kill me.

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Man I only did like 12, but then I decided to get Sylv and BG Perks so eh

Xyrella was my legendary, but Im probably crafting the Warlock lady because maybe its just me but cheap spells seems nuts right (plus I have like, all the legendaries to play warlock)

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Seems that my issue was this and I hadn't tried playing on mobile data since this happene

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/main-thread-cannot-connect-to-hearthstone-on-mobile-data/33040/23

I got Mankrik like everyone else, opened up Varden Dawngrasp, Xyrella and Neeru Fireblade, and then got Cannonmaster Smythe for my rank 25 free legendary. Spent dust on Kazakus as well.

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Oh gosh, basic and classic cards are wild now? Great that's like all of mage's iconic burn and fieldwipe spells. Flamestrike, fireball, frostbolt...jeez
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Flamestrike is still in core, it does 5 damage instead of 4

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The core set covers whats in Mages standard kit

Flamestrike and Fireball are both there still IIRC, flame strike even got buffed

all the freezing stuff got removed though

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I guess i'm just confused. The description of standard said core + standard sets, but yet core cards are wild? Did they jsut arbitrarily decide which core cards are standard and which aren't?
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There is a new collection of cards called "Core". To build this new "Core" set they pulled largely from the original cards, but also hand picked cards from a few wild sets (such as Nerubian Egg and Annoy-O-Tron and Baron Rivendare). And then they gave all the cards from this Core to everyone.

Some original cards were not included. For example Archmage Antonidas is not a "Core" card (in his place is a new mage legendary, Aegwynn, the Guardian). But all the cards that were not included in Core were added to wild, so you can use your Antonidas there if you have him.

And so Standard = Core + 2 Years

And Wild = Everything

So standard has a more narrow focus now because it's just hand selected cards + 2 years, and those hand selected cards could be shaken up when it's time for sets to rotate again next year to better suit the cards in the active 2 years.

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Free 2 Golden Legendaries to start:
Death Speaker Blackthorn
Kazakus, GOlem Shaper

80 Packs:
Pack 7: Neeru Fireblade
Pack 15: Golden Samiru
Pack 24: Overlord Saurfang
Pack 52: Bru'Kan
Pack 57: Firemancer Flurgl

5 legendary pulls in 80 packs and my pity timer is currently at 23.

Mass Disenchant: +1315 Dust

Disenchant Golden Common/Rare/Epic: +2750 Dust

Disenchant Golden Blademaster Samuro: +3200 Dust

I'm not sure why Samuro was disenchantable for full Dust (did he get nerfed already??), and I might end up crafting a non-golden copy of him, but i couldn't turn down 3200 dust.

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Its to not punish those who got the tavern pass with diamond samuro

Golden Mankrik is the same way since you get the regular one from free but you may not choose to get him before opening your packs

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In 140 packs I got 12 legendaries and 3 of them were golden.

I think I'm only missing 5 legendaries and some epics now. And I've still got 2000 gold and 8000 dust to start saving for next expansion!

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I've had two golden legendaries in the last 7 years. I don't even remember what they were because they immediately turned into dust.



Did they add something new to battlegrounds? What are those brown squares above my murlocs, I've never seen that before.

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I saw that as well, I thought maybe it was a graphical glitch
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They screwed up the "glow" around the minions. You'll notice it's the same shape as spot that shows what tier the minion is.

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Field Contact is like a guaranteed nerf huh

Basically a 3 mana Auctioneer for Rogue

Wait this was talked about earlier but yeah, its pretty nuts and the watchposts seem pretty good too in Rogue

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I just had the absolute most wild arena game. Please check this out, I can't believe this one

https://hsreplay.net/replay/UQnmZCSC2WdWcKhh8ah9Zn

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Huh, I logged in and played a few games, but I never saw anything about a core set or got any free cards. Did get Mankrik and some stuff from the new board though.

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The brown boxes in battlegrounds also seem to only be there on minions I bought that turn.

LiquidOshawott posted...

Field Contact is like a guaranteed nerf huh

Basically a 3 mana Auctioneer for Rogue

Wait this was talked about earlier but yeah, its pretty nuts and the watchposts seem pretty good too in Rogue

If I was to pick the five cards I think were most likely to get nerfed, I think three of the five would be Rogue cards.

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LiquidOshawott posted...

Field Contact is like a guaranteed nerf huh

Basically a 3 mana Auctioneer for Rogue

Wait this was talked about earlier but yeah, its pretty nuts and the watchposts seem pretty good too in Rogue

I don't know about Field Contact specifically, but Rogue in general seems really hard to beat right now. Like...I don't know how to respond to an efficient Octobot on turn 2. Kazakus seems nuts in Rogue, cause they'll usually have the board on turn 4 from doing rogue things, and they can pick up a golem that gives their minions +2/+2. Kinda reminds me of back when Rogue could run 7 mana Bonemare--Bonemare required that you control the board on turn 7 in a tempo deck, which made it not even good in most classes, but in Rogue it was really hard to beat.

Not sure what the right nerf target is, though. Field Contact looks really good, but when I got completely blown out by a Rogue, Field Contact wasn't even part of the blowout.

Stuff I've messed around with:

Libram Paladin, adding the obvious 1 drops, and Samuro to replace the 5 cards that are rotating from the deck: felt weak--stomped by rogue, stomped by Jaraxxus. Beat a watchtower priest I guess.

Doomhammer Shaman. It's fine. Probably the most competent-feeling list I've played.

Mill yourself Warlock: it seems like a meme. Pretty sure good control decks are just going to beat it consistently once they know what they're doing. They can stall for a long time with consecration style effects while fatigue is ticking, and often develop their own board as well, dealing additional damage to you while they lock down your board with 2 damage AoEs. Still funny, might be my "challenge a friend meme option."

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If you have neeru in your opening hand you can mill yourself in no time flat but often at the cost to doing anything productive. I don't care for it so far.

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Was playing fine earlier, but now I can't stand connected. DC'ing literally after I click end turn.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

If you have neeru in your opening hand you can mill yourself in no time flat but often at the cost to doing anything productive. I don't care for it so far.

I mean, I only have one altar of fire, and I'm not crafting a second one cause it's an epic with no effect, so mostly when I mill it's with like Soul Rend, which is at least a board clear.

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It's been 1 day and I'm already beyond sick of this 1/3 raptor with frenzy in Hunter decks. Something about building your entire deck around buffing a 1 mana card really annoys me for some reason.

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skullbone posted...

It's been 1 day and I'm already beyond sick of this 1/3 raptor with frenzy in Hunter decks. Something about building your entire deck around buffing a 1 mana card really annoys me for some reason.

I haven't seen that card yet. In the trash mmr where I'm at Hero Power Mage is the soup du jour.

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i started from bronze 10, ive definitely seen the most mage as well

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i just had a match where i had a magicfin out and this mage played 3 devolving missiles and ALL OF THEM missed the magicfin and turned every minion on the board into a murloc.

_stingers_ posted...

I just had the absolute most wild arena game. Please check this out, I can't believe this one

https://hsreplay.net/replay/UQnmZCSC2WdWcKhh8ah9Zn

I hate how your opponent played parts of that game, but good lord that's a ridiculous deck he has. I've drafted some decks today and nothing comes close to that. I'd say that's a 12 win deck, but lately you can't ever predict 12 because of how many 'I play this and win the game' cards are in right now. The amount of generation you had was wild! Honestly your deck should go pretty far as well.

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I'm still reeling from that disastrous 2 legendaries in 85 packs debacle, but does anyone have links for early decks? I saw the VS 30 decks to try day 1 link, but haven't checked anything out yet.

Also, this is probably a longshot, but Nicholena is doing another BGs tournament Sunday, and the twist is it's a duo tournament where you are in a different lobby from your partner, your points for how well you do in groups are combined to see who makes finals, and in finals one person plays and the other can give suggestions and such. If anyone wants to give it a whirl let me know.

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Feeling very frustrated with the game today. I know it's only been 1 day so take my dumb ramblings as you will but I'm not having much fun. Control Warlock wins every control match now so I don't feel like I can play any control decks unless I auto concede against Warlock. It's not fun spending 20 minutes in a match just to see if they burn the cards you need to actually win or not.

When they made Tickatus they said "yeah we know it's not fun but hopefully you only see him like one in every 20 games". Well if that was their reason to make such a dumb card then they better nerf this shit into oblivion once control Warlock inevitably takes over the ladder.

People are using Envoy Rustwix with fatigue to get the portal and then put 3 prime minions into their deck too. So that's a minimum of 3 turns you need to deal with the portal, a 2 mana 6/6, AND prime minions. Being able to get the portal with an empty deck and then immediately refill it before taking any fatigue damage.

Also Jaraxxus is WAY too strong now but that was obviously going to happen once they got rid of his downside.

tl;dr: control is dead unless you enjoy playing a 10% matchup against Warlock

Guess I'll just play Beast Hunter or Murloc Shaman? Or maybe I'll just go back to Rogue


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More hot takes: the watch towers are too good for neutral cards. Call me crazy but I don't think a single card should be able to beat entire decks if you coin it on turn 2. At the very minimum these things should have 0 attack IMO.

How was everyone else's first day?

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skullbone posted...

How was everyone else's first day?

I believe I went a combined 5-7 with "Whatever Is Available Because The Class Looks Pretty Bad Right Now And Also C'thun Is In There As Well Priest" and "4/4 That Copies Itself I Don't Know The Names Of The New Cards Yet Plus A Bit Of Handbuff And Also C'thun Because It Was A C'thun Kind Of Day Warrior".

Also went 1-1 with Freeze Mage in classic, no longer undefeated rip the dream.

Honestly think I might just play classic for most of this expansion, even now before the meta has really formed I'm really struggling to find anything that looks fun to play.

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skullbone posted...

More hot takes: the watch towers are too good for neutral cards. Call me crazy but I don't think a single card should be able to beat entire decks if you coin it on turn 2. At the very minimum these things should have 0 attack IMO.

There's already a push to ban Mor'Shan from arena (the Grinning Goat guys actually called for it pre-release) and Blizzard will probably do it since they generally ban feels bad cards if the community complains enough. These things offer basically no counterplay, and in my three runs so far a bunch of games have been won or lost by turn 3 because of them.

It's just a question of if it will take a week or a month since arena is somewhere down in the hundreds on their priority list.

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Always feels good to predict a card is good when most of the community is saying it'll be unplayable.

Power Word: Fortitude was like...a "1 star card" in basically every card review I checked. Glance at HSReplay today, and the #2 most played deck is a deck called "Spell Priest", where Power Word: Fortitude is one of the highest performing cards.

Every card review was like "well you probably have 4 spells in hand, so this is a 4 mana +3/+5". OK...but if you have 8 spells in hand it's a 0 mana +3/+5 that activates Sehtekk Veilweaver (which is a scenario I watched Kibler pull off more than once in the theorycrafting stream...or maybe he had 7 spells in hand and one discount from Palm Reading. Whatever).

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Secret/Libram Paladin is quite strong, probably to no ones surprise!

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metroid composite posted...

Always feels good to predict a card is good when most of the community is saying it'll be unplayable.

Power Word: Fortitude was like...a "1 star card" in basically every card review I checked. Glance at HSReplay today, and the #2 most played deck is a deck called "Spell Priest", where Power Word: Fortitude is one of the highest performing cards.

Every card review was like "well you probably have 4 spells in hand, so this is a 4 mana +3/+5". OK...but if you have 8 spells in hand it's a 0 mana +3/+5 that activates Sehtekk Veilweaver (which is a scenario I watched Kibler pull off more than once in the theorycrafting stream...or maybe he had 7 spells in hand and one discount from Palm Reading. Whatever).

Hm this actually looks cool

Is Samuro a free card, or is it just the diamond one with the pass (Seems like it's the latter)?

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Diamond Samuro is free with the pass, otherwise you need to pull him.

These watch towers are driving me absolutely bonkers. Priest dropped the increase cost one on turn 2 and a taunt on turn 3 and that fucking thing survived for 7 turns against my Paladin deck.

How did they think these were balanced?

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Randomly got 140 dust when I logged in just now, no idea what for.

Also, the tavern brawl this week is completely broken. The entire gimmick is using spells to dye your eggs so they hatch into different rabbits, but if you use any dye on them they just hatch into another 0/2 egg, which then hatches into a vanilla 1/3 rabbit the following turn.

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