Board 8 > Hearthstone: New Core Set and an expansion I guess

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Camden
03/25/21 11:32:30 PM
#51:


Achievement points are just bragging rights. No actual use for them.

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davidponte
03/25/21 11:40:07 PM
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thats kind of dumb

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metroid composite
03/25/21 11:52:31 PM
#53:


Some achievements have XP attached, but most do not.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/26/21 12:18:26 AM
#54:


Is there anyone who was interested in the Mega Bundle ($79.99) but weren't completely sold on the idea and would be more interested if it was discounted?


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ESY16
03/26/21 12:29:37 AM
#55:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Is there anyone who was interested in the Mega Bundle ($79.99) but weren't completely sold on the idea and would be more interested if it was discounted?

Sure, send me a PM with what you're thinking.

Also, just played some wild and hit a guy trying for the Oh My Yogg achievement. He had a Cho and played it before playing Oh My Yogg which I though was a creative way to communicating what he wanted. Unfortunately my spell didn't kill him.

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Camden
03/26/21 12:36:40 AM
#56:


Sounds like someone won a bundle from somewhere.

I'm too cheap to buy one even at a ridiculous discount.

ESY16 posted...
Also, just played some wild and hit a guy trying for the Oh My Yogg achievement. He had a Cho and played it before playing Oh My Yogg which I though was a creative way to communicating what he wanted. Unfortunately my spell didn't kill him.

Cho is nice as a tell, but it's mainly so you can trade Oh My Yogg back and forth and get multiple attempts at lethal.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/26/21 12:40:09 AM
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Camden posted...
Sounds like someone won a bundle from somewhere.

Hey I'm just a guy asking questions. If my questions prompt additional questions (via PM/discord/etc) then who is to say.

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ESY16
03/26/21 12:47:43 AM
#58:


Camden posted...
Sounds like someone won a bundle from somewhere.

I'm too cheap to buy one even at a ridiculous discount.

Cho is nice as a tell, but it's mainly so you can trade Oh My Yogg back and forth and get multiple attempts at lethal.

Oh damn, I've never hit anyone trying for it, and I didn't think of that. Hopefully I hit someone going for it again now that you've told me that. I wasn't really paying attention to the game as I was just trying to get my 5 wins and also try the old DQA.

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metroid composite
03/26/21 2:33:51 AM
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ESY16 posted...
Oh damn, I've never hit anyone trying for it, and I didn't think of that. Hopefully I hit someone going for it again now that you've told me that. I wasn't really paying attention to the game as I was just trying to get my 5 wins and also try the old DQA.
I think the achievement went away with the new set of achievements right? Or is it still there?

Watched a few wild streamers to get a sense of what's going on higher up.

Don't think I saw much of any shamans. F in chat for Shaman. Got Galakrond stuff, Shudderwock stuff, even stuff (Flametongue) and still not much confidence in the class.

Seeing very little Undertaker; I suspect the deathrattle minions you're forced into running are just not good enough.

Beast Hunter with Buzzard seems like it might be a real deck. Uses Master's Call to get a big hand, hopefully corrupting Don't Feed the Animals (the "give your beasts in hand +2/+2" spell) and then busts out big Rhino lethals.

Quest Rogue might be a real deck. Everyone I watched had pretty abysmal records with it, but apparently it destroys Priest, which means it might be good in pocket metas. Builds with a much lower curve than I expected, with Derailed Coaster being the only card that costs more than 3. No vanish, no giggling.

There's definitely some Even Paladins with Call to Arms out there.

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Camden
03/26/21 3:01:34 AM
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Classic is a trip, I've forgotten what exactly the meta was. Trusty Freeze Mage against Warrior? Well I'm boned, he's just going to armor out of range.

Oh, wait, classic Warrior runs things like Kor'kron Elite and Arcanite Reaper and just smashes face instead of gaining armor, which I can totally beat.

metroid composite posted...
I think the achievement went away with the new set of achievements right? Or is it still there?

The achievements are all still there, but the Darkmoon Faire ones don't give xp any longer.

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skullbone
03/26/21 3:08:20 AM
#61:


Uhh am I reading this wrong or did they turn casual into wild?

Casual - All cards are available, play against other Casual players.

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Camden
03/26/21 3:38:38 AM
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Edit: Nope, I was wrong. It queues you into the mode for whichever deck you have selected. So if you're playing a standard deck it will queue you into standard casual apparently.

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skullbone
03/26/21 3:48:05 AM
#63:


Yeah that makes sense, kinda weird they would phrase it like that.

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azuarc
03/27/21 12:31:23 AM
#64:


TIL: When you buy an Amalgadon while you have a Wrath Weaver on board, and you're at 1 health, you're probably about to die.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/27/21 12:37:23 AM
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lol, I've been there

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 2:55:05 PM
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LiquidOshawott
03/27/21 3:07:47 PM
#67:


Oh I wanna try Charge with Crabrider or Worgen

sounds fun especially with bloodsworn

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 8:41:29 PM
#68:


Four times at 1-3, and four times I immediately get the worst possible draws and matchups.

Hearthstone is not and never will be skill based, regardless of how many morons want to pretend otherwise. US Patent #9789406.

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davidponte
03/27/21 8:55:20 PM
#69:


PostContestUlti posted...
Hearthstone is not and never will be skill based, regardless of how many morons want to pretend otherwise. US Patent #9789406.

Very glad to still be seeing this post in these topics after all this time lmao

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 8:57:23 PM
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https://hsreplay.net/replay/zwXbY4wDLDHDtbvaMdaFQi

We both mulled our entire opening hand, and he had one less card to start with.

Now compare the draws and try pretending skill even remotely mattered here. Since I started playing Galakrond Shaman, half of my games have been against Token Druid.

The game manipulates matchups. I see it all the time.

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 8:57:46 PM
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davidponte posted...
Very glad to still be seeing this post in these topics after all this time lmao
I am correct. Other viewpoints are not. End of story.

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 9:58:46 PM
#73:


https://hsreplay.net/replay/YihD3pamZkouwKioBy2YuV

hEaRtHsToNe iS SkilL bAsD

Not only did the Dragonbane prove my point, but watch the Knife Juggler targets.

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PostContestUlti
03/27/21 10:16:46 PM
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https://hsreplay.net/replay/GjLZqJLjzUcm7B5jXbs3SA

Here we will yet again see that Hearthstone's RNG is manipulated. Both Wandmakers found the same exact spell (Priest has 9 1 mana spells, so the odds of this are 1.2%), Draconic Studies found DQA when he was playing highlander, and to prevent any possible stabilize by me later, he was set up with the perfect RNG and had his other DQA in hand.

This stuff is not an accident. It's predetermined to keep people playing and I will never be convinced of anything else. None of this is natural, or "random", in any way.

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ShadowDoomBlaze
03/27/21 11:02:24 PM
#75:


Do you really think I'm above making 201 accounts just to make sure I can post in here?

https://hsreplay.net/replay/NNgut6tRYV6bmVEiVRA3iW

I spectated my buddy going 23-2 with this face hunter list to hit legend. His two losses were at 1-3 btw.

Let's see how my first game goes with it and how my opponent draws. Shocker, it was manipulated from the jump.
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skullbone
03/27/21 11:07:00 PM
#76:


Maybe take the hint that we don't give a shit about what you have to say and go away. I can keep blocking all day too.

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Common_Sense
03/27/21 11:27:34 PM
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skullbone posted...
Maybe take the hint that we don't give a shit about what you have to say and go away. I can keep blocking all day too.
lmao you ain't shit and you know it
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Forceful_Dragon
03/27/21 11:48:05 PM
#78:


I couldn't see a single post between 67 and 75.

Maybe just dont post 8 times in a row.

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ESY16
03/28/21 4:28:25 AM
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I may have asked this question before, and if so my apologies, but I just want to clarify something before the update:

I'd like to actually make a good constructed deck or two (and maybe one in wild) with this new set releasing, which means I need to bank some dust. I have 3 of the classic legendaries that are also coming to the core set. I have some of the dragons too (dusted Ysera because I got the full 1600 for it, don't plan on dusting any others) but the new ones are quite different so not counting those. I have Natalie Seline, Grommash Hellscream, and Cenarius. IIRC Natalie and Grommash are staying the exact same and Cenarius is changing. When the core set launches will I get 2nd copies of the ones I already own? Other than playing Classic mode, is there any reason not to dust these cards since I'll be getting the new ones for free? I think Grommash and Cenarius are used in Classic and Natalie isn't, so maybe I keep the first two and just dust Natalie?

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LiquidOshawott
03/28/21 5:33:58 AM
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Other than Classic, Wild, and Duels, no I cant really think of anything

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CoolCly
03/28/21 7:16:25 AM
#81:


so i opened this game

theres an achievement system now. boy that took a lot of clicking

3460 points!!!!!!

when does the core set thing happen?

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azuarc
03/28/21 9:49:46 AM
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When you click in the topic, there are 16 new posts, and half of them are Ulti wearing a new sock, but making the same tired, unsubstantive rants.

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LiquidOshawott
03/28/21 10:30:10 AM
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Oh I just realized Pen Flinger is an auto include in quest rogue

Maybe it will rule wild

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Camden
03/28/21 1:19:08 PM
#84:


CoolCly posted...
when does the core set thing happen?

Tuesday, same day the new set comes out.

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Emeraldegg
03/28/21 1:47:06 PM
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Humbly request TC to block any ulti alts so he can't be here
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azuarc
03/28/21 3:15:41 PM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Oh I just realized Pen Flinger is an auto include in quest rogue

Maybe it will rule wild

How many spells does quest rogue run, though? Like, it's an easy bounce sure, but I feel like it would be disruptive to the usual style to have much more than just Daring Escape, Shadowstep, and Prep.

Also, please don't put the most toxic card in the most toxic deck.

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LiquidOshawott
03/28/21 3:38:39 PM
#87:


Oh I was thinking you could run like, backstab and swindle but maybe Im overthinking it here

https://hsreplay.net/decks/r4jqUShp5eHwtHaAvjJqfc/#gameType=RANKED_WILD

this list looks pretty good btw

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ShatteredElysium
03/28/21 3:39:38 PM
#88:


Just redownload and logged in and it won't let me play Arena? The hell. Says I have to have level 10 on all classes. Thats kind of bullshit, it should know I've played a ton of arena in the past
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Forceful_Dragon
03/28/21 3:40:36 PM
#89:


Oh getting Demon Hunter'D?

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ShatteredElysium
03/28/21 3:50:21 PM
#90:


Nope. Priest, 0 wins.
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Emeraldegg
03/28/21 4:04:12 PM
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How long before the season ends? Is it when the new set releases? Trying to save the gold for arena/duels runs untilt he new packs become rewards
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VeryInsane
03/28/21 5:21:54 PM
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Arena/duels are until next expansion, but the ladder is for the month

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ESY16
03/28/21 10:07:24 PM
#93:


Emeraldegg posted...
How long before the season ends? Is it when the new set releases? Trying to save the gold for arena/duels runs untilt he new packs become rewards

Arena rotation will happen when the new set launches, and this is also when Arena should start giving new packs as rewards. If you start a run now and leave it at 2 loses/don't finish, you will get the rewards for whatever win total you are at plus an arena ticket, so it's basically a free run.

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Camden
03/29/21 11:24:01 PM
#94:


Classic Hearthstone

Mage: 10-0
Hunter: 0-3
Druid: 0-2
Priest: 0-2

I probably shouldn't even be playing other classes at this point.

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_stingers_
03/30/21 12:13:28 AM
#95:


I tried playing my old favorite, control paladin and lost all 3 games to 20 damage burst combos from 2 rogues and a druid and then stopped playing. Old hearthstone was more fun in some ways but a lot less in others lol

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Forceful_Dragon
03/30/21 12:25:13 AM
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It's a much more solved game where it's entirely possible to read the total maximum damage they can do in a single turn and play around a known quantity of options they might have.

I would recommend handlock with double argus and double sunfury protector if you want to avoid the super burst.

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Camden
03/30/21 12:40:58 AM
#97:


Miracle Rogue and Combo Druid are definitely a higher percentage of the meta now than it ever was back when Classic Hearthstone was just Hearthstone, so you definitely need to tech against them specifically.

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KokoroAkechi
03/30/21 1:43:40 AM
#98:


I started playing classic with the only deck i could make (which is freeze mage)
my god these matches are so unexciting
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azuarc
03/30/21 1:47:58 AM
#99:


I have absolutely zero interest in going back to classic. Ooh, ooh, please can I die more to freeze mage ice blocking twice while gimping my health with Alexstrasza and force/savage combos to chunk off 22 and double Leeroy with power overwhelming?

It's amazing this game ever got off the ground.

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KokoroAkechi
03/30/21 2:17:51 AM
#100:


actually in a lot of games I've only had to ice block once
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Camden
03/30/21 2:38:58 AM
#101:


I've played Ice Block in just about every game, but I think it's only been popped once.

I'm not sure if this is an actual thing you can do in the game or if someone just mentioned the idea once and it's now a thing in my head, but when you challenge someone to a game can you use one of their decks for the challenge?

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