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Underleveled
10/21/20 10:26:38 PM
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Best of the last 10 Survivor Final 3s?










We'll see Survivor in another year or so, right?

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GTM
10/22/20 12:38:53 AM
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Tag

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Naye745
10/22/20 2:44:58 AM
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hopefully

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The Mana Sword
10/24/20 10:22:31 AM
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currently best friends with Hung on twitter now

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Underleveled
10/24/20 11:20:35 AM
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Okay, so I quickly threw something together, probably needs some tweaking, but about a year ago I did a "seven types of Survivor winners," so now I decided to do a "seven types of Survivor losing finalists."

Type 1:
Colby Donaldson, Rob Mariano, Stephenie LaGrossa, Russell Hantz (19), Parvati Shallow, Coach Wade, Brad Culpepper, Domenick Abbate

The type that is generally the mastermind; the one who dominates the game from Day 1-38, but can't seal the deal at the end. They usually lose to a would-be "sidekick" or "goat" type. This is the type that is most likely to have the fans scream "bitter jury," but the jury almost always says that they would have voted for them if they took different people to the end, or did just a couple things a bit differently.

Note: Domenick and Wendell were pretty much co-masterminds, and thus on paper Domenick may fit better into Type 4, but I felt that the criticisms against him from the jury more aligned him with the others in this type.

Type 2:
Kelly Wiglesworth, Katie Gallagher, Danielle DiLorenzo, Courtney Yates, Mick Trimming, Chase Rice, Chelsea Meissner, Michael Skupin, Gervase Peterson, Missy Payne, Carolyn Rivera, Tai Trang, Ken McNickle, Chrissy Hofbeck, Angelina Keeley, Natalie Anderson

This is the type that gets a pretty harsh reception from the jury. The men are generally seen as flakey or spineless, and the women are usually seen as, well, you know the word I'm looking for. While they have enough of a handle on the game to not be considered an outright goat, most of them had absolutely no shot to win going into the finals.

Type 3:
Kim Johnson, Neleh Dennis, Amanda Kimmel (16), Lisa Whelchel, Dawn Meehan, Monica Culpepper, Jaclyn Schultz, Aubry Bracco, Hannah Shapiro, Julie Rosenberg, Michele Fitzgerald

The fact that this type consists of all women is not a rule. It's just turned out that way so far. This type is similar to the type 2 in that the jury usually has some choice words for them, but they are generally not as harsh as the ones used to describe that type. Words like "naive" and "emotional" come to mind. Like type 2, they are generally players who have an adequate command of how the game works but get themselves into unwinnable situations.

Type 4:
Ozzy Lusth, Amanda Kimmel (15), Stephen Fishbach, Sabrina Thompson, Woo Hwang

The sidekick. This is the type who gets to the end with their day 1 ride-or-die, but should have found a way to cut them loose at the final 5 or 4, because the jury sees the other as the mastermind of the pair. Pretty much everyone from this type could have easily won against just about anyone from any of the other types.

Type 5:
Becky Lee, Cassandra Franklin, Susie Smith, Natalie Tenerelli, Will Sims, Tasha Fox, Trozan Robertson, Laurel Johnson

The "do-nothing." Now we're getting into the genuine goats. These are the losing finalists who are either dragged to the end because they made virtually no moves in the game and thus had no chance to win, or their lack of action outright enabled the mastermind to get to the end. Either way, the jury has little respect for them and they almost always get blown out or shut out.

Type 6:
Russell Hantz (20), Sash Lenahan, Albert Destrade, Spencer Bledsoe, Ryan Ulrich, Mike White, Gavin Whitson, Dean Kowalski

This type is KIND of like Type 1, but not really. They generally think they are the mastermind, but the jury doesn't see it that way and actually sees them as a complete sleezeball. They usually get an edit that makes them look like a complete joke.

Type 7:
Clay Jordan, Matthew von Ertfelda, Lill Morris, Twila Tanner, Dreamz Herd, Sugar Kiper, Phillip Shepard, Sherri Biethman, Noura Salman

These are generally the people that come to mind when you think "goat." These are the outrageous, in-your-face wacky personalities that the jury has absolutely 0 respect for and spends the final tribal council completely trashing them. The other endgame players always want to go to the end with this type and if they make it to the final 7 or so, by that point they are pretty much a slam dunk to get into the finals.

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Mewtwo59
10/24/20 3:54:33 PM
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I feel like Gavin and Dean belong more in type 3 than type 6. Dean may have gotten more towards type 6 near the end, but I feel like Gavin was always type 3.

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The Mana Sword
10/25/20 11:31:37 AM
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I've finished TAR8, and I have a potentially nuclear take.

1. TAR5 - Colin & Christie
2. TAR2 - Oswald & Danny
3. TAR1 - Kevin & Drew
4. TAR7 - Rob & Amber
5. TAR3 - Teri & Ian
6. TAR6 - Gus & Hera
7. TAR8 - Paolo Family
8. TAR4 - Jon & Al

This season has a lot of issues, there's no real denying that. The cast is far too bloated and it's impossible to keep track of everyone. I still don't actually even know the names of all the Linzes. The route is boring, even though I understand the constraints somewhat. Children are terrible. The unbelievable awkwardness of the only black team on the season literally being named the Black Family. The list goes on. That being said, once the teams get out of the lame East Coast legs and we shed most of the children teams, I think it's actually not awful. When I was doing my ranking, I really struggle to thing of a single positive about season 4. Marion Paolo alone, aka the greatest racer in history, is more entertaining than anything on season 4. Honestly, the Kevin & Drew cameo in episode 1 is more exciting than almost anything in season 4. I don't think they should ever do another edition like this (and I'm sure they won't), but all things considered, it was better than I expected going in, seeing as how universally reviled it seems to be. I think the Linz Family are decent winners. They got a little too frat-bro-y for my tastes at times, but it felt like a reasonably satisfying win, even if a bit expected. For one, I knew they won ahead of time. And second, yeah obviously a team of young 20-something guys is going to be favored vs, teams with literally children and 50 year olds. And the Weavers losing was great. Holy cow did they suck. One of the worst teams so far in this rewatch. Rolly seemed okay-ish, but the holier than thou Jesus shit...my goodness. Miss me with that crap.

Back to normal seasons now. I know 9 is a little hit or miss from what I've heard. I caught the very end of the finale when it aired (final task to the finish line) but otherwise have haven't seen anything else.

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Underleveled
10/25/20 7:02:29 PM
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1. Paolo Family
2. Schroeder Family
3. Weaver Family
4. Gaghan Family
5. Aiello Family
6. Bransen Family
7. Black Family
8. Rogers Family
9. Godlewski Family
10. Linz Family

Linzes were unbearable, Weavers were mostly good but got on my nerves at times. Top two teams were pretty great. Either Marion & DJ Paulo or Michael & Stassi Schroeder should have been back for All-Stars.

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The Mana Sword
10/25/20 7:17:16 PM
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I think thats the first time Ive wildly diverged from your team rankings, #1 aside.

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Inviso
10/25/20 7:21:21 PM
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TAR7:

  1. Meredith & Gretchen
  2. Rob & Amber
  3. Uchenna & Joyce
  4. Brian & Greg
  5. Debbie & Bianca
  6. Ryan & Chuck
  7. Megan & Heidi
  8. Susan & Patrick
  9. Ron & Kelly
  10. Ray & Deana
  11. Lynn & Alex


TAR8:

  1. Weaver Family
  2. Paolo Family
  3. Godlewski Family
  4. Schroeder Family
  5. Bransen Family
  6. Gaghan Family
  7. Aiello Family
  8. Black Family
  9. Rogers Family
  10. Linz Family

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Naye745
10/25/20 10:18:11 PM
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my hot take is the gaghans were the best team because the kids were actually able to contribute something, and thus it was an example of the season's unusual (read: bad) elements actually working

the mom posted on television without pity back in the day and her handle was something about the bullshit of being eliminated by the red bean, and posted recaps that carissa wrote of tar9 (and maybe some other future seasons)

its still the worst season in the history of the show btw

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Underleveled
10/26/20 8:53:25 AM
#12:


Catching up on BB. Cody and Nicole bitching that Enzo was playing the HoH to win instead of helping them is *puke*

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Underleveled
10/26/20 9:19:34 AM
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This was like the weirdest episode. 30 minutes of Cody, Nicole and Christmas bitching that everyone else isn't playing for them to win, followed by 10 minutes of cute moments that are actually what I love seeing on these shows.

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Underleveled
10/27/20 9:44:27 AM
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Cody smacking himself in the face with the veto was hilarious

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GTM
10/27/20 12:03:21 PM
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They're milking that clip dry lol

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GTM
10/27/20 12:05:40 PM
#16:


Also being the biggest RHAP shill on the board, always like the recap of the recap from last Friday

The coverage last week in general was great as they still find ways to milk 2 hour podcasts out of every episode

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Underleveled
10/27/20 1:02:34 PM
#17:


Is the recap episode worth watching? I think I skipped it last year.

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Inviso
10/27/20 1:04:26 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Is the recap episode worth watching? I think I skipped it last year.

It's...not...terrible? It really hits home how fucking lame Cody is though.

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Underleveled
10/27/20 1:45:12 PM
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So with this final three, there's a chance for everyone to finish in a place they've finished in before (Nicole 1st, Cody 2nd, Enzo 3rd).

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Underleveled
10/27/20 1:59:30 PM
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Sadly I think Tyler is going to win Fan Favorite again.

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The Mana Sword
10/27/20 2:56:31 PM
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I think Cody probably "deserves" to win the most, but I still really want Nicole to win again for maximum saltiness.

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Underleveled
10/27/20 5:31:56 PM
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For the longest time I thought "Gianico" was one person.

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Mewtwo59
10/27/20 5:55:11 PM
#23:


Is TAR airing before Big Brother tomorrow? I heard that TAR got moved up to 8, but isn't that Big Brother's timeslot?
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Underleveled
10/27/20 5:56:42 PM
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They swapped because the BB finale is 90 minutes.

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Underleveled
10/27/20 6:10:57 PM
#25:


Cody would be the "most deserving" winner.

Nicole would be the lulziest.

Enzo would be the best, ignoring the fact that he was a strategic cocktease he was actually pretty funny and entertaining.

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Xuxon
10/27/20 6:15:22 PM
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man i completely forgot Natalie made the F3 this past season. so bizarre. hopefully EoE is gone forever.

The Mana Sword posted...
I think Cody probably "deserves" to win the most, but I still really want Nicole to win again for maximum saltiness.
i agree Cody deserves it the most and i would be one of the "maximum salt" people if Nicole wins. Enzo, i definitely like more but i'm not sure if i actually want him to win. it'd be kinda like Ian vs Dan, where i thought Dan played a better game but couldn't help rooting for Ian (except i like both Ian and Dan way more than Cody and Enzo).

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Underleveled
10/28/20 3:28:40 PM
#27:


This crapfest is over tonight!

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GTM
10/28/20 8:01:35 PM
#28:


Nicole would be the best winner

I think she plays the rat game so very well. Her fatal flaw is that she doesn't own it, but that's not bad enough to be worse than the other 2.

The recap is only great for the stupid(ly fantastic) podcasts after

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Underleveled
10/28/20 8:04:13 PM
#29:


Hung and Chee with a kiss-of-death confessional.

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Inviso
10/28/20 8:09:30 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Hung and Chee with a kiss-of-death confessional.

Leo & Alana had one too.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 8:20:36 PM
#31:


This episode has ADHD

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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 8:21:38 PM
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This is a mess. I know it says to keep your stuff in the clue, but this feels a little unfair with how the guy checking it just leaves everything sprawled out and makes it seem like you can just leave.

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Inviso
10/28/20 8:24:02 PM
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I love it. It makes for a more chaotic leg.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 8:27:16 PM
#34:


It reminds me of the episode of TAR19 where the donation box fucked up the boot order

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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 8:44:27 PM
#35:


Using your U-turn when youre in 1st, this early in the race, seems extremely a waste.

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Mewtwo59
10/28/20 8:49:17 PM
#36:


Huh, I didn't expect the cooking to be the easier detour.
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Inviso
10/28/20 8:49:51 PM
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This leg has been a complete mess, and I love it.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 8:53:04 PM
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Yeah. I was honestly kinda underwhelmed by this cast upon reveal and I'm still very meh on like half of them but if the legs are this screwy it could still be a great season.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 8:57:42 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
Using your U-turn when youre in 1st, this early in the race, seems extremely a waste.
Especially when your target is a weaker team, and out of pettiness rather than strategy.

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Mewtwo59
10/28/20 9:00:00 PM
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I was going to say that Michelle and Victoria got lucky that the blondes didn't pick them to be U-turned, but Jerry and Frank seemed to be so far behind that it didn't matter.
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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 9:00:49 PM
#41:


Were spending another episode in South America, huh.

Meh.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 9:01:52 PM
#42:


Two episodes next week btw

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Mewtwo59
10/28/20 9:04:46 PM
#43:


Underleveled posted...
Hung and Chee with a kiss-of-death confessional.


Yeah, they only got second. That's pretty bad by their standards.
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Underleveled
10/28/20 9:13:50 PM
#44:


oof Enzo I know you're embarrassed but please don't act like a sore loser here.

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Underleveled
10/28/20 9:18:47 PM
#45:


Paulie got fat. I didn't even recognize him.

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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 9:41:27 PM
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10/28/20 9:46:38 PM
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nicole looks so sad

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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 9:48:49 PM
#48:


Doesnt seem like Cody is going to miss one

oh well

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The Mana Sword
10/28/20 9:51:23 PM
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Underleveled
10/28/20 9:58:03 PM
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Oh.

That is NOT what I thought was going to happen.

Fucking go Enzo.

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