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agesboy 10/22/20 5:08:37 PM #401: |
swordz9 posted...
but the main drawback to her is her attack speed.lower attack speed doesn't mean less damage dealt though; every attack in every character's attack chain has a specific multiplier on your attack statistic. for characters like xiangling that attack really fast, it's like 20-40% per hit; for noelle, it's like 80-120% per hit swordz9 posted... Right now I just really need higher damage output because I cant reach Floor 5 of Spiral Abyss until I can get more stars on Floor 4. The damn barrier Mages just make any timed stuff annoying.the key is taking advantage of the ley line disorders. floor 4 is electric focused with water enemies, so tldr the damage bonuses stack to where electrocharged does 4.4x the damage it would normally do. most of the enemies already have wet applied to them 24/7, so the ideal setup in there would be two lightning characters to spam electrocharged and one water to apply wet to everyone that's not wet. you can also just wait and powercreep it via brute force. eventually fischl will become so nutty she can solo pretty much the entire floor --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 10/22/20 5:26:19 PM #402: |
Im stuck on floor 7 of the spiral abyss because i dont want to level up either of my ice boys (kaeya and chongyun) but the electric hammer guy with the electric shield is absolutely brutal without ice to break the shield
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agesboy 10/22/20 5:30:09 PM #403: |
i just haven't even tried spiral abyss since like week 2, the rewards aren't going anywhere till i'm able to beat floor 9 anyways
and floor 9 is two level 70 bosses lol --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 10/22/20 5:31:32 PM #404: |
My only other Electric character is Lisa sadly.
Wind - Lumine, Venti, Sucrose Water - Barbara Electric - Fischl & Lisa Fire - Xiangling & Amber Ice - Qiqi & Kaeya Earth - Noelle & Lumine Might just power up my mains more and see if I cant manage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 10/22/20 5:44:04 PM #405: |
just went and attempted it for the first time since i was like level 40 (fischl is 70 now) and it got obliterated
feels good next floor needs 2 teams though which i am wholly unprepared for and will slack on --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 10/22/20 5:49:50 PM #406: |
yeah I just got to the two teams part and I dont want to deal with it
I think I have the stuff to level up enough characters for it, but taking the time to figure out artifacts for three more characters sounds not fun --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 10/22/20 5:50:55 PM #407: |
changmas posted...
Im stuck on floor 7 of the spiral abyss because i dont want to level up either of my ice boys (kaeya and chongyun) but the electric hammer guy with the electric shield is absolutely brutal without ice to break the shield those are also the two ice guys I have and I havent ascended either to the current rank because I cant decide which to go with so I just am going with neither I guess --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrSmartGuy 10/22/20 5:51:09 PM #408: |
Klee seems like her playstyle would be right up my alley, but I just really don't wanna waste what few primogems I have left on such a small chance, and the 4* units in that banner are not interesting to me in the slightest.
Since we're posting our rosters.... AR31 Anemo - Venti, Sucrose Hydro - Barbara x3 Electro - Fischl x5, Razor, Lisa Pyro - Xiangling x3, Amber Cryo - Qiqi, Kaeya Geo - Ningguang, Noelle x2 My main team is Razor/Fischl/Qiqi/Venti. I sub in Kaeya and Xiangling a lot, though. Other than them, Barbara and MC are the only two characters I've leveled past level 20. Venti is my only character ascended past level 50. Either Fischl or Qiqi will be next. Maybe. This game was a loooooot more fun to me when I could just wander around and find a bunch of shit everywhere. --- Xbox GT/PSN name/Nintendo ID: TatteredUniform http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tRBE1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 10/22/20 6:03:12 PM #409: |
AR37
Anemo - Venti, Jean, Sucrose Hydro - Xingqiu, Barbara x7 Electro - Fischl x2, Razor x2, Lisa Pyro - Xiangling, Amber Cryo - Kaeya Geo - Noelle x3 current teams are razor/fischl/xingqiu/venti (was using xiangling before i got xingqiu a few days ago) for combat and razor/fischl/venti/jean for exploration, also have barbara and xiangling levelled and geared to slot in my xingqiu is underlevelled at the moment but i've been pouring everything i have into him since i got him... --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Colegreen_c12 10/22/20 7:12:40 PM #410: |
the worst part of spiral abyss is that to unlock floor 8 you need to get 6 stars in floor 7.
Which is actually not that easy unless you have two fairly decent teams. --- DPOblivion beat us all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 10/22/20 7:37:17 PM #411: |
My Qiqi is officially lv60 now. I dont think she can go higher until I hit AR35
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changmas 10/22/20 8:06:50 PM #412: |
AR38
Anemo - Traveler Hydro - Barbara C5 Electro - Keqing, Fischl C1, Razor C1, Lisa Pyro - Diluc, Xiangling C6, Amber C1, Cyro - Kaeya C1, Chongyun Geo - Noelle C2 (i think?), Traveler current teams for Abyss are Keqing Xiangling Lisa Noelle Diluc Amber Fischl Barbara the main things i'm being gated by are electric shields because both ice characters are sub level 20, and not having a good second healer (Noelle really doesn't cut it). so far i've just gotten by with keqing dodging damage with the i-frames on her ult spam --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 10/22/20 8:24:18 PM #413: |
agesboy posted...
klee is a main DPS and venti is a hard support, they're not comparable in the least and work best on a team together Klee mines dont work with Ventis Q. --- dilateDChemist Last minute changes killed my bracket - still would've got destroyed by azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 10/22/20 8:27:31 PM #414: |
swordz9 posted...
My Qiqi is officially lv60 now. I dont think she can go higher until I hit AR35 also known as the barrier where you just farm for mora now. you're gonna need lots of it between characters, weapons, and artifacts. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 10/22/20 8:29:25 PM #415: |
yeah Im AR 34 and just totally ran out of gold today
sucks --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 10/22/20 8:31:31 PM #416: |
I havent even begun working on the post-Stormterror quests. At least I have lots of stuff to do still for my slow playing
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Wanglicious 10/22/20 8:46:45 PM #417: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
yeah Im AR 34 and just totally ran out of gold today you should still have some secret quests still available, you kind of run into them as you collect the geo/ameno thingies. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 10/22/20 8:55:33 PM #418: |
SwiftyDC posted...
Klee mines dont work with Ventis Q.yeah but you still apply elemental swirl and pyro res down for a million years without needing to swap in even without bomb suction they work well together, because venti works well with everyone by default --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drakeryn 10/22/20 9:51:25 PM #419: |
AR 21
Anemo - Traveler, Sucrose Hydro - Barbara x2 Electro - Razor, Fischl, Lisa Pyro - Amber Cryo - Kaeya Geo - Noelle current team is Razor/Fischl/Barbara/Traveler, will swap Traveler for Xiangling when I get around to getting her that's probably all for a while since I'm pretty lukewarm on the current banner; gonna save my gems --- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 10/22/20 10:30:05 PM #420: |
I've seen people champion Sucrose. She seems to be very hit or miss. I'd gather a few opinions before you dismiss her. Personally, I don't think I'll be interested in acquiring her, but she can be very strong under the right circumstances, and IIRC she gives a ton of elemental mastery to the group.
AR 35 A: Traveler H: Barbara(5) E: Beidou, Fischl(3), Lisa, Razor P: Amber, Xiangling(3) C: Kaeya G: Noelle Team: Traveler/Fischl/Xiangling/Barbara I don't love Barbara, but she's my only viable healer. Qiqi would really improve my team. I kinda need an ice on my team, and I don't intend to drop Traveler for Kaeya. Sans replacement healer, Traveler's the most expendable, but also the character I'm most invested in. --- Video Game Music Contest 14 champion: Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BK_Sheikah00 10/22/20 11:19:50 PM #421: |
I got Sucrose and she's worth it for her crafting passive.
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agesboy 10/22/20 11:22:03 PM #422: |
getting sucrose and xingqiu at the same time was a double whammy for craftin goodness
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Drakeryn 10/22/20 11:34:25 PM #423: |
yeah to be fair I have no idea if sucrose is any good, I just hate glasses girls
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swordz9 10/22/20 11:35:39 PM #424: |
If they ever let you customize glasses in the Dressing Room I would absolute remove them from Sucrose
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agesboy 10/22/20 11:38:31 PM #425: |
if they ever let you customize any eyewear, everyone's getting fischl's eyepatch
everyone and fischl's getting a second one --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 12:41:43 AM #426: |
--- dilateDChemist Last minute changes killed my bracket - still would've got destroyed by azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 10/23/20 12:41:51 AM #427: |
so is this game good? do people like this game?
got to monstadt and the combat and dialogue all felt really generic is this thing gonna ramp up or something --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 12:43:36 AM #428: |
Probably will be easier to see if you go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jfobwj/introducing_the_everything_cheatsheet_ultrahd_12k/
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 12:45:26 AM #429: |
CoolCly posted...
so is this game good? do people like this game? I've been hooked. It's all a grind after AR30 though, but I still have a bit to explore to collect all the geoculus. Found all the anemoculus. --- dilateDChemist Last minute changes killed my bracket - still would've got destroyed by azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 1:06:33 AM #430: |
Holy shit. Got my first 5* weapon on a single wish! The Aquila Favonia!
Sounds pretty legit. Definitely giving it to Jean. --- dilateDChemist Last minute changes killed my bracket - still would've got destroyed by azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 10/23/20 1:23:31 AM #431: |
jeez, yeah, congrats, as far as i can tell that's the best sword in the game
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SovietOmega 10/23/20 2:06:12 AM #432: |
CoolCly posted...
so is this game good? do people like this game?The dialogue is nothing particularly amazing. It functions. There are definitely spots where it excels, due in part to some pretty nice worldbuilding. The combat is passable...some characters will play better than others, though enough investment and a deep understanding of the mechanics should enable anyone to excel, sometimes to a pretty nutty degree. I guess it depends on what you're wanting to get out of the game. I'm still enjoying the simple act of climbing up and gliding around a visually appealing landscape. Frankly, I've never played a game that was such a good simulation of what it would be like to have ADHD. You set out to collect some of the regional collectables, but there are some enemies around a chest. No big deal, you'll just beat them up and wait a tick, there's a ghost that needs to be guided back to its home. Simple enough, but its home was right next to this puzzle that needs solving. Off a way in the distance is some funny little shrine that needs a key to get into that you don't have, but next to it there's a lot of shiny rocks that you can break that will surely be useful and what were you even doing out here again? --- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 10/23/20 2:15:30 AM #433: |
the answer is trying to beat the elemental now located halfway across the map.
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azuarc 10/23/20 11:40:14 AM #434: |
Cly: The day I enjoyed the game the most was the day I decided it was time to explore the map in the second nation, and I just worked my way across the beginning areas of the map, bit by bit, uncovering all the secrets.
Nice pull, Swifty. I dumped nearly all the resources I'd been farming for the last 5 levels into bringing Traveler and Banjo-Kazooie up to 70. Their talents aren't maxed, but I've upped the important ones. I need a better weapon for Fischl, though, and I didn't touch artifacts. I've just been collecting all the 3* drops and the odd 4 until I decide to go nuts. It probably wouldn't be wise to wait until I get higher quality stuff, but I'm going to try to hold out, I think. Question about elemental mastery, because I've heard conflicting info: Is it the person who initiates the elemental combo that needs the mastery, or the finisher? --- Video Game Music Contest 14 champion: Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrSmartGuy 10/23/20 1:18:03 PM #435: |
If you upgrade artifacts and then funnel that suped-up artifact into a newer better artifact, it'll level it up as if you had used all the original artifacts, I believe. At least whenever I auto-level, it tries to use my +6 artifact not on someone and it levels the new one up by 6.
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agesboy 10/23/20 1:59:59 PM #436: |
dunno if artifact exp is 100% transferred but it does seem to be most of it, so i'm raising my 4* to +8/+12 without feeling guilty about it
azuarc posted... Question about elemental mastery, because I've heard conflicting info: Is it the person who initiates the elemental combo that needs the mastery, or the finisher?finisher needs EM, all statuses are equal after they've been applied but you'll probably occasionally end up accidentally finishing on your openers if you're using someone like xiangling or xingqiu, so having some EM on them doesn't hurt --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 10/23/20 2:09:23 PM #437: |
Does that hold true for Swirl? I'm primarily using MC carry right now.
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agesboy 10/23/20 2:30:59 PM #438: |
swirl doesn't stick, so it can only be used as a finisher
you aren't able to really cause a huge number of reactions with mc like you can with other characters though, and swirl to begin with has a very low multiplier, so i wouldn't invest heavily on EM if you're using MC has a carry. the swirl won't scale with most offensive stats like atk. your reaction damage will have to come elsewhere in the team --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 10/23/20 2:33:15 PM #439: |
MC will get a whole lot better when we open up more elemental options for her/him. Probably gonna be a long while for that though.
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agesboy 10/23/20 2:41:17 PM #440: |
honestly i'm kind of impressed that he's not shit tier as is
both wind and geo versions of him are viable, and the geo ver is still the best secondary geo support in the game..... for the two other geo units we have........................... --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BK_Sheikah00 10/23/20 6:39:27 PM #441: |
Now if only MC didn't require talent materials for every element.
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paperwarior 10/23/20 6:49:16 PM #442: |
Is it already too late to start this game?
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 6:51:27 PM #443: |
paperwarior posted...
Is it already too late to start this game? No. --- dilateDChemist Last minute changes killed my bracket - still would've got destroyed by azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 10/23/20 6:57:23 PM #444: |
So I decided, what the hell, let me roll on the Klee banner and take my pity timer.
Huh. Well, this changes things. --- Video Game Music Contest 14 champion: Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SockoressKnight 10/23/20 7:15:20 PM #445: |
Damn. Good shit, dude
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Drakeryn 10/23/20 7:35:10 PM #446: |
whoa nice
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SwiftyDC 10/23/20 9:14:07 PM #447: |
Nice pull, Guru Champion!
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azuarc 10/23/20 11:03:24 PM #448: |
Geez, when you put it like that, you make me sound like an incredibly charmed individual. I'll have you know that pull was all skill!
Granted, this is probably Klee, but better (for me). I was completely unprepared to get Diluc instead, though. I *guess* the right choice is to swap out Traveler? With Fischl and Xiangling, "Anemo" is the stock 4th finisher, but most of the time I want to have a healer. Plus, my Anemo isn't Venti. --- Video Game Music Contest 14 champion: Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Colegreen_c12 10/23/20 11:10:11 PM #449: |
i personally like anemo/diluc/fischl/healer slightly more than xiangling/diluc/fischl/healer since an anemo can actually do some good damage to someone suffering from fire and electric. (And while i dont love mcs anemo ult i really like her e ability once leveld)
Xiangling is good but imo her abilities are decent but its really her autoattacks that make her shine, but your going to want to be autoing with diluc. --- DPOblivion beat us all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 10/23/20 11:38:58 PM #450: |
imo raise 5 characters as your main core, and swap out the 4th between support and healer depending on content (remember you can pawn off unwanted artifacts onto barbara cuz she likes hp). once you're outpacing world content you actually literally don't need healing because everything just dies before it can think about touching you. a lot of bosses also can be beaten fairly reliably without taking damage (looking at you lightning elemental. not looking at you, oceanid <_<)
in the short term there actually is no merit to having an anemo support btw, you need the 4pc set to make them worthwhile. so for now, if you don't have that, MC is definitely the best choice to eject. unsure if traveller with the 4pc would be worthwhile for overworld content that you're generally steamrolling too fast to apply res to, but they are definitely worth it for bosses --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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