Poll of the Day > Any PoTD brothers or sisters waiting on PSO 2 for PC like me? Shall we.....

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wolfy42
05/29/20 7:30:30 PM
#101:


Cool, thanks Ages, I have been feeding my mag monomates and it boosts both melee damage and defense. I'll try and find something that just boosts damage then.only gone up like 2 points so far so no biggie.

Yeah I actually don't mind the bow so much, it does do decent damage and from range....I could totally have that as a backup ranged attack. I feel like it's gonna take me a week just to get started with this game, and figure out the very basics, especially if I try everything out, which I probably will.

Not complaining though, that is freaking awesome.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/29/20 7:30:57 PM
#102:


I'm getting kinda bored in the game. I'm too powerful for where I am. I oneshot normal mobs with one thriving bellflower (which is like a 40 foot AoE around me) and bosses melt. I'm doing the stuff I have on hard but it's all still made of paper. I even ended up getting an even better katana. I'm also tanky enough that if I don't miss the floor tech (whatever it's called, reversal i think) I regen more health than the attack actually did.

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agesboy
05/29/20 7:45:12 PM
#103:


wolfy42 posted...
Cool, thanks Ages, I have been feeding my mag monomates and it boosts both melee damage and defense. I'll try and find something that just boosts damage then.only gone up like 2 points so far so no biggie.
alternate between feeding them monomates and melee weapons, they cancel each other out but give melee power in the end

slightly faster way is just feeding them specific furniture rarities that gives melee power

YoukaiSlayer posted...
I'm too powerful for where I am.
the game is definitely too easy early on if you're proficient and/or lucky, yeah

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YoukaiSlayer
05/29/20 7:57:52 PM
#104:


Do crafted weapons still exist? I remember way back when that was the optimal early progression before you could get 9* weapons cause they had like 1k attack even though their lower damage limit was 40% instead of 70%. That's still an average of 700 attack though. It seems like enhancing might have replaced that whole system though which would be nice.

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adjl
05/29/20 9:13:55 PM
#105:


agesboy posted...
you can also install skills onto them, like 10-15s of invulnerability whenever you get full PB, or healing via certain triggers. eventually you can increase the number of skill slots to like 10, too

and you can change their photon blast; by far the best two are ketos proi (pp regen field for you and nearby allies; also recharges REALLY fast) and julius nifta (persistent suction effect for grouping up enemy mobs)

That's separate from the feeding process, though? Like I don't need to aim for certain evolutions to unlock such abilities?

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YoukaiSlayer
05/29/20 10:15:34 PM
#106:


I'm just blasting through the expiditions on hard. I think I got too lucky with a mining defense EQ cause now with some 9* armor I frequently take 1 damage from enemies 15 levels higher than me and of course I regen like 130 hp whenever I reversal and I finally got automate halfline and iron will and stalwart although i have yet to get low enough to activate it. I'm not even playing well. I'm just face tanking the boss while spamming PAs in it's face and the fights last like literally less than 10 seconds unless I get juggled (in which I gain hp).

I don't remember it being this easy before. I killed one of the bosses in like 4 seconds with a couple counters that all did obscene damage. I don't even have any stances yet. I need to unlock very hard already. I'm up to level 29/16 Br/Hu. Maybe I should solo but I'm pretty sure I'm the one doing most of the work and it's nice to be able to afk and be protected.

adjl posted...
That's separate from the feeding process, though? Like I don't need to aim for certain evolutions to unlock such abilities?
Technically the way it was designed for you to get them is through the feeding process, but theres items you can get to just change it after the fact that render that pointless considering you'd have to ruin the things stats to get them which is far more important than the abilities.

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DeltaBladeX
05/29/20 10:16:43 PM
#107:


So went to look it up since I figured it was available now.

My country doesn't get it. Not even on XBox One. -_-

This is fucking bullshit.
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YoukaiSlayer
05/29/20 10:18:50 PM
#108:


DeltaBladeX posted...
So went to look it up since I figured it was available now.

My country doesn't get it. Not even on XBox One. -_-

This is fucking bullshit.
The game actually has god tier netcode so it's not big deal to play it from out of the country. It's not region locked is it?

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DeltaBladeX
05/29/20 10:23:10 PM
#109:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
The game actually has god tier netcode so it's not big deal to play it from out of the country. It's not region locked is it?

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YoukaiSlayer
05/29/20 10:59:23 PM
#110:


Oh right, microsoft store. I wonder if you could use a VPN to download the game and then not have to deal with it later or if you have to launch through microsoft store or something. Bro fuck microsoft store. I imagine there is some sort of work around.

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agesboy
05/30/20 12:23:25 AM
#111:


you have to set your profile to US or something, I think people have done it

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 12:37:31 AM
#112:


agesboy posted...
you have to set your profile to US or something, I think people have done it

Does that cause issues with my XBox Live stuff? I use the same account on both my 360 and PC.
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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 1:18:00 AM
#113:


You could just make a new xbox live account. You don't need gold for PC play.

Also, got to level 33/19. Still bored. Took a break cause of illness. I've lost a pound from playing this game for like 8 hours. Ugh.

Did a few EQs but the parties are even more unbalanced than I remember. Most fights last like 15 seconds. Specifically did dark falz arms and dark falz elder. Both quite easy but probably because they lasted all of 15 seconds. The amount of systems to deal with is kind of overwhelming. Every time I play a mission I've got like arks missions, daily missions, titles, gathering acheivements, client orders, bingo, levels and more to deal with. I'll probably try to grind to 40 later and see if super hard is where it's at.

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 1:27:52 AM
#114:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
You could just make a new xbox live account. You don't need gold for PC play.

I just used the account on PC when I got Windows 10 when I made it. Just that my account is marked NZ, basically, so unsure if that causes issues.
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wolfy42
05/30/20 2:16:19 AM
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well the difficulty is certainly there for me. Normal enemies are fine, but I just died like 6 times to the stage 2 mission with all the sub quests added. There was like 3 boss fights along the way (2 before the dragon). I died mostly due to trying to kill the first one with melee (my whip which I love for normal fighting) but yeah, that was just deadly, so I switched to gunblade + range and took him out (died like 4 times). I didn't die to the second boss (turtle guy) at all, but the last boss the Dragon (Boss of the area) killed me once even using the gun blade (just got unlucky).

I have not used any skill points yet though because I want to know which tree/class I am going to main before investing skill points. I'm not sure if I wanna main hunter or Braver on this character yet. Since it looks like solo range may be....a very good idea.....and whip doesn't really have a great use vs bosses it seems, braver might be smarter long term (even if I love the whip the most) which meand I need the skill points for that instead of hunter probably.

I have not upgraded my weapons with grinders etc yet and still just have basic ones so that is probably part of the problem as well. Thing is I destroy normal enemies easy, and that was the first time I fought ANY of those bosses (including the dragon was the first time I just did a straight up main area 2 quest and added all the sub quests) so I didn't even know I was weak at this point.

Oh well gonna see what I can do to improve myself. Wish my other chars would delete so I could make my ranger character.

I do have a question, you can get 3 mags for free, can you switch them between characters? If so, I could start building up the other classes on my current character and then just upgrade the other mags for the other classes. The race doesn't matter much, so it's mainly the skills and mags that are important. The skill issue could still be a problem though if I put all my skills into hunter/braver, I won't have the skill points I need for force/tech etc.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 2:23:59 AM
#116:


Yo, skill points are separate per class. You can't use a hunter skill point on braver even if you wanted to.

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wolfy42
05/30/20 2:32:18 AM
#117:


Oh sweet!!
Then I can actually use them, lol, I've been saving them all. Probably make the game alot easier hehe.

Thanks a ton!

Also I looked it up and you can't transfer mags, so....if I want a tech mag and a ranged mag, i'll have to do that on other characters.....but....since I can use skills for each class, initially the mag isn't going to be that important (This'll be my melee mag), so I can test out the other stuff at least till the other characters get unlocked in two days.

Yeah!!

Also...woot skills!!
HEhe
Cept I still gotta be careful which skills I spend points on, but not so much on the classes I'm not gonna play with this char (so it lets me test some stuff).

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 2:42:24 AM
#118:


Yeah I have no idea how easy it is to reset your skill trees though so maybe look into that before spending too liberally.

Mags do appear pretty cheap.

Also jesus christ is there anyway to get inventory expansion without paying real money? 50 slots is not enough. I'm always full at all times because the game just wants to shower me in 30 forms of xp boosts and photon drops.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 2:47:03 AM
#119:


Yeah upon looking it up, you can't reset your skill trees right now. They do apparently give out free resets fairly often and you can pay money to buy another tree but yeah, it's not something you can just play around with for no explainable reason.

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agesboy
05/30/20 3:56:54 AM
#120:


they actually gave out skill tree reset passes to every character already

right at pc release, so only xbox players got them

YoukaiSlayer posted...


Also jesus christ is there anyway to get inventory expansion without paying real money? 50 slots is not enough. I'm always full at all times because the game just wants to shower me in 30 forms of xp boosts and photon drops.
nope! you can mass send stuff to storage from mid-mission so it's doable but it's still super obnoxious

lock all the gear you want to keep then mass select everything in the weapons and units tab and send them to storage. i think it's via holding down shift on pc? i have it bound to holding down r2 on controller

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 4:36:23 AM
#121:


agesboy posted...
nope! you can mass send stuff to storage from mid-mission so it's doable but it's still super obnoxious

lock all the gear you want to keep then mass select everything in the weapons and units tab and send them to storage. i think it's via holding down shift on pc? i have it bound to holding down r2 on controller
That's lame but your work around sounds decent. My issue isn't even really equips though cause I just don't pick any gear thats not better than what I have. It's mostly just random shit. I also do some gathering cause I want skill rings but for some reason that doesn't get like a separate gathering bag or anything so it just quickly consumes all your inventory slots. Even just having 70 or so would be a massive difference over 50.

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 4:58:33 AM
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Anyone want to give me a player ID before I start?
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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:02:41 AM
#123:


Maybe you guys can help me. I'm a bit frustrated here. I've been trying to do Risa's "It's time to take a trip to the volcanic caves" order. It states a ranger must do it and only with Risa in the party. I did the whole thing 3 times and it never finished, I guess because Risa was not with me.

Except I can't figure out how to get her to join me. I got rid of all other orders. I took the exploration quest for the volcanic caves, i'm totally out of ideas and it's very frustrating. Gonna crash and pick it back up tomorrow.

That being said, while I was really enjoying the hunter, I'm probably going to start over fresh with a ranger focused character because jesus is the machine gun (I got a rare one so that helps but even before that) powerful vs bosses, it's easy to dodge everything cause you can keep moving while firing, and the damage is seriously insane. I still like launcher for alot of the other stuff, but once I got the rare machine gun (like 400 power or so), everything melts so far, andI can just run through em while shooting em lol.

Hence why i'm trying to do Risa's quests (unlike some of the others she doesn't have any second tier quests for the ranger weapons but instead wanted me to do this ANNOYING quest where I explore the volcanic caves with her.

Except she's always a no show!! GRRRR.

Anyway had alot of fun, though I'm a bit tired fo the volcanic caves and ready to move from them now lolz.

More playing tomorrow. Wish the chars would hurry up and get deleted but I just actually started the process earlier today, so it's probably gonna be a bit longer before they go poof. My mag is at like 30 melee already, so I don't wanna just switch to boosting range on this guy. And since i'll create the other two on the same ship, I can send all the coolie items etc I have gotten over to them (or probably just my ranger based char).

Stats really don't seem to make a big diff honestly, but i'll probably go female cast again just to max potential for ranged, while having more hp than beasts.

As far as skills the only ones I grabbed was the % based one for hitting enemies at range (10% bonus to damage for 5 points). I'm holding off on others for now....although probably getting the dodge ones will be a safe bet, I have not needed it yet.

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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:03:52 AM
#124:


DeltaBladeX posted...
Anyone want to give me a player ID before I start?

I don't actually know what mine is, I could probably look it up tomorrow when I get back on if nobody else has posted yet. I'm on ship 1, but I think everyone else is on ship 3.

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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:07:26 AM
#125:


Grr damn them!!

Well I figured it out, there is another terminal in the area before you start a quest where you can have npcs join your party. I only noticed a random tip that told me about that......after all this time. So not fair. Really, they should freaking make things a bit easier to figure out. Oh well, at least I know now.

Gonna finish it before bed lol.......I'm so tired.

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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:21:37 AM
#126:


lol that was fast. I just zoomed through it in like 5 mins. Finished it, now she wants to explore the desert.

Tomorrow I say.

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 5:57:39 AM
#127:


So played the first mission. Won't work with my PowerA Switch controller, so I just did the first mission with keyboard and mouse. My left hand is already in pain. -_-

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 6:10:43 AM
#128:


I find this game easier than a lot to play on keyboard. A hand saver is to rebind the dodge action button to something easy to press (I use mouse 4) and disable double tap dodging. I also personally swapped interact to F since most MMOs are that way and bound weapon action (aka block for me) to E.

I had a bit more fun playing some more. Up to 38 now. Had the forest 1000 pt EQ going for a while and thats always pretty fun even if it's still too easy and everything dies in one second. I also think I unlocked very hard but it doesn't actually seem like I can accept very hard. I did the cofy order. Looking it up I saw for someone it took a while to take effect so maybe I just need to chill or do another mission and come back.

Also got a 9* katana that I think was the one I was using when I played before cause it looks like an ugly shield on your back. Snagged some more good armor as well so I'm ultra beefy. Hoping very hard makes the bosses a bit harder but it seems like I need super hard for many of the AI changes. Oh well, I'm flying through the leveling so it probably won't be too long till I hit 50. Also almost completed bingo card, just have the final order for purple flowers left which I have my aux doing.

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 6:22:49 AM
#129:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
I find this game easier than a lot to play on keyboard.

I simply have joint issues with my left hand. Even with games that are just WASD + Space, I'm going to be slow at best. More complex games are just asking for pain. Gamepad is a lot easier for me, my left hand only needs the thumb (which is fortunately fine) and the index finger for shoulder buttons. Most actions are on the right hand, rather than the left with keyboard controls, so tends to be significantly less painful for extended play.

Anyway, plugged in one of my PS4 controllers, no luck there either. Only got my old wired 360 pad left to try now, and that has significant stick drift. -_-
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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 6:47:23 AM
#130:


Nah I get it. I was gonna use my PS4 controller but it didn't pick up right away (computer issue, not game issue) so I just stuck with keyboard. I'm surprised this game doesn't hurt me more. My joints and muscles are all messed up (well everything is). Most games hurt me pretty bad.

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 7:20:21 AM
#131:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
I was gonna use my PS4 controller but it didn't pick up right away (computer issue, not game issue)

Does the game support them? I saw the key display for it, but plugging it in didn't help, still had nothing working with it instead of my Switch controller. And since I barely use the Switch controller for the intended system, I stick to that on PC. PS4 controllers are regularly used. :P
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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 7:29:40 AM
#132:


I would think it supports PS4 since the game is japanese and has the icons for it but idk. I'm used to steam where everything works so I didn't really consider that it might not.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 8:18:03 AM
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Figured out my very hard issue. For some reason they give you the order long before you are level 40 but you can't accept a very hard quest unless you are 40+ despite having the license. Considering the client order is just talk to cofy, I don't understand the point but whatever. I hit 40/24 and finished all 14 expiditions. That's probably it for me today. Hopefully very hard is the difficulty increase I was looking for.

Oh also did solo a mission just to see and yeah, I clearly have been doing most of the damage because everything still died very fast although the boss lasted like 45 seconds which was cool.

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adjl
05/30/20 8:30:24 AM
#134:


I've been looking at the various Gunner PA's to see what I should be trying to get, and it looks like they're all situationally useful and I should have all of them bound. That's all well and good, but I saw the suggestion of rebinding Weapon Action to RT because the basic dodge isn't particularly useful with Stylish Roll (which makes sense and I've done this) to allow me to put 6 PA's on my palette. If I do that, though, doesn't that leave me unable to do regular attacks for PP regen?

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 8:56:46 AM
#135:


You definitely need regular attack. Better to just deal with 5 PAs and a regular attack. Not sure if you can bind PAs to the subpalette or not but that could be a workaround if so.

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adjl
05/30/20 10:56:48 AM
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That's what I was thinking, although that may have been based on the JP version where the level 85 skill that turns S Roll into an attack is available (not sure if that allows it to generate PP/ramp up Chain Trigger). You can bind PA's to the subpalette, which is what I'm probably going to do. Well, that or make up different main palettes for different situations, since I won't always need all of them and the subpalette isn't the most accessible. I'll have to play around with it and see what happens.

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agesboy
05/30/20 1:10:20 PM
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if you want a quick overview of the PAs each class commonly uses, use this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wZql23y0YAENBq21LtMspcYoGXKiWETajriT-smhwkM/edit#gid=700471991

(anything with type-0 in the name is unavailable right now)

my knowledge on gunner is spotty since last time i played was before the nerf of their main damage dealer and buff to everything else

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wolfy42
05/30/20 1:28:35 PM
#138:


It is supposed to use/be compatible with ps4, I saw a post on it. I'm using the wired xbox360 controller though. You could use yours even with drift for now, and then if you really like the game they are still pretty cheap to get used.

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agesboy
05/30/20 1:37:44 PM
#139:


i use my ps3 controller with pso2 via scp-ds3 drivers

which i'll have to redo when i install windows 10................

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adjl
05/30/20 3:24:05 PM
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agesboy posted...
if you want a quick overview of the PAs each class commonly uses, use this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wZql23y0YAENBq21LtMspcYoGXKiWETajriT-smhwkM/edit#gid=700471991

(anything with type-0 in the name is unavailable right now)

my knowledge on gunner is spotty since last time i played was before the nerf of their main damage dealer and buff to everything else

I'm mostly going off of this post and the reddit thread that the author also made:

https://forum.pso2.com/topic/1700/gunner-tmg-photon-art-usage-guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2/comments/fy8nci/gunnertmg_photon_art_summary_and_usage/

Going by that, it sounds like most arts have their uses, and that's been my experience so far (I'm still missing a few, namely the crucially important Grim Barrage), but I'm just puzzled as to how to interpret the advice given on how to lay them out. Now, I say this, but even though I'm 100% sure one of the posts in the reddit thread said something to the extent of "mapping Weapon Action to RT will give you six PA's on your palette," I can't seem to find said post and only see one saying 5. So maybe I'm just going insane.

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HornedLion
05/30/20 3:31:48 PM
#141:


How do I change my characters looks? I realize it will take money of some sort but... where and how?

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wolfy42
05/30/20 3:33:44 PM
#142:


I don't even think it takes money, I think it's from the place with the big red exclimation mark where you can access the auction house/store etc, but I don't remember for sure. I did see somewhere you could change looks etc, and it didn't seem to cost anything. You can buy new stuff to add, but I think the base looks you can change at will.

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adjl
05/30/20 3:39:24 PM
#143:


The Salon is on the second floor of the shop area. The area's divided into two halves, you're looking for the one with the pink store, not the red one.

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HornedLion
05/30/20 3:52:31 PM
#144:


Thanks, guys.

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agesboy
05/30/20 4:53:34 PM
#145:


adjl posted...
Going by that, it sounds like most arts have their uses, and that's been my experience so far (I'm still missing a few, namely the crucially important Grim Barrage),
in case you want to investigate the statistics yourself, the jp wiki has charts with statistics for both PP efficiency and raw dps

https://bit.ly/2AlE5iE

google translate works ok

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 5:11:39 PM
#146:


Well, asked on Reddit about controllers. People are just recommending DS4Windows, which is my last choice since it breaks compatibility with Steam other controller, had hell making it work for plug and play with Steam games.
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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:31:51 PM
#147:


I forget where in the world you are Delta, but I checked and there are a buncha places selling wired 360 controllers for $6 or so...maybe one is near you?

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DeltaBladeX
05/30/20 5:45:25 PM
#148:


wolfy42 posted...
I forget where in the world you are Delta, but I checked and there are a buncha places selling wired 360 controllers for $6 or so...maybe one is near you?

New Zealand. Checking on a local site, I can't find any of the official ones, which is a shame. Seen really shitty 3rd party controllers in the past.
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wolfy42
05/30/20 5:54:02 PM
#149:


The one to the right of the top looks like one for $15.85...but jesus that is expensive, I saw like 5 for $7 in the us. That blows.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/30/20 8:14:49 PM
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Ok very hard should just be normal difficulty. Enemies actually sometimes attack and they do ok damage and you have to hit them more than once. Bosses still die too fast but I could always solo I guess. Was also fun to fight some purple chick with dual blades (replica apprentice or something like that). She was pretty fun. It's still not exactly hard, but you have to actually play the game which is cool. I'm betting super hard will be pretty fun. Almost to level 43 now so only 7 more levels to go.

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