Poll of the Day > Any PoTD brothers or sisters waiting on PSO 2 for PC like me? Shall we.....

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it's either physically somewhere on your pc's case or you can use a program like ProduKey to see the installed product key

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And got shit working now, horray
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DeltaBladeX posted...

And got shit working now, horray

Woot Grats:!)

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come to ship 2 if you want to be frend with me, others here are on 1 and 3 iirc

also i can answer any general questions but tldr do Cofy CO's to unlock shit and catch every urgent quest you see for max efficiency, also don't fuck up your mag massively (you want 200 of either melee, ranged, or tech power, or dex. melee is the most versatile, dex will be useful literally everywhere in about 4-5 months but is only useful for bouncer and braver right now). if you want to spend zero bucks, you can have one mag of each main attack type across your three character slots, otherwise future mags are like $3 (you need four to play everything ever optimally)

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agesboy posted...

come to ship 2 if you want to be frend with me, others here are on 1 and 3 iirc

When I did the tutorial originally, it was Ship 2, but right now I made a new character on 1. Is the character limit per ship or game?
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Char limit is total, but you can have one on each ship.

Thing is you can't transfer items etc cross ship and the point of having multiple is partially so you can transfer items between em. Makes much more sense to have 3 on 1 ship.

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agesboy posted...

it's either physically somewhere on your pc's case or you can use a program like ProduKey to see the installed product key

Thanks a ton. Getting on it this week.

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Are SHAQ's just not sustainable? I ran the Floating Continent one and got a grand total of 1 D Capsule, which is nowhere close to enough to run Facility and keep the cycle rolling, and that was with 100% Triboost and 250% Rare Drops (and a song boost for good measure). I did it again in a party of 3 and ended up with 7 more, but that's still not enough, and running the Ruins one again with the same party didn't yield enough F Capsules to do Floating Continent again, so now I just don't have enough for anything.

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adjl posted...

Are SHAQ's just not sustainable?

solo, with 3 AI party members? they're basically not sustainable

two people you can go consistently positive with, and four people you end up with like 15-50 after each run depending on pse bursts

good news is that vhaq is generally better exp/h anyways all the way to 75 (infected enemies give 2k-6k exp each with full boosters running still), shaq just has better loot and is about same exp with four people who can kill fast

btw rare drop boosters don't affect drop rate of capsules

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Yeah you pretty much need a party of human players for some stupid reason to be able to sustain them. If you get a pse burst with 4 people you'll probably walk away with 15-35 capsules. Some levels are better than others as well. Very frustrating design cause I'd like to be able to solo farm saiki but instead you have to hope people in crowded lobbies are up for it or potentially wait a long time for 3 randoms to join.

Ult quests were handled much better even if they end up being far too repetitive in that you can join them for free whenever and leave whenever and stay for as long or as little as you want. The issue is you fight the same 3-4 bosses per map for 10 fucking hours per useful drop and they can't make any of the bosses too hard because they have to rightfully assume you can't see anything during the fights. Been 7 hours for me with no 13* weps or 12* units.

Also when you get to level 75, farm up a sigma bastad or sigma fegan (the launcher and assualt rifle respectively) and just use those on VHAQs to brainlessly level much faster than you could with anything else. You don't need PAs or perfect attacks, just hold down the left mouse button (or whatever basic attack is for you) and let auto aim do it for you. When you trigger a PSE burst go find a corner, stand in it, jump if neccesary, and then hold left mouse for 15 or so minutes while you enjoy riveting optimized gameplay.

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yeah, sigma ranger weapons are the meta vhaq strat now

i'm levelling summoner now and it's just as brainless though, god bless summoner

with one specific ring, you attack once and the pet auto attacks anyone around you for like an entire minute

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agesboy posted...

two people you can go consistently positive with

I must have been terribly unlucky with three, then, since I fell quite a bit short of breaking even (albeit at threat level 0-1, so maybe it's better higher up) even with a PSE burst or two. The joys of random loot, I suppose.

agesboy posted...

btw rare drop boosters don't affect drop rate of capsules

Well then. I guess I should stop using them for that >.>

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Also when you get to level 75, farm up a sigma bastad or sigma fegan (the launcher and assualt rifle respectively) and just use those on VHAQs to brainlessly level much faster than you could with anything else. You don't need PAs or perfect attacks, just hold down the left mouse button (or whatever basic attack is for you) and let auto aim do it for you. When you trigger a PSE burst go find a corner, stand in it, jump if neccesary, and then hold left mouse for 15 or so minutes while you enjoy riveting optimized gameplay.

Noted. I stumbled across the Sigma TMG somewhere or other, but it's quite outclassed by my Nox one and I don't yet have the Dex for it (I'm at 66-67 right now, iirc), plus regular TMG attacks aren't exactly the best for damage.

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adjl posted...

Well then. I guess I should stop using them for that >.>

they're still kinda ok in shaq because it helps with drops for stuff like 13* worth 2-3m each, at least, and xh magatsu shits out excubes to the point where sustaining 250% at all times becomes trivial

it's just that, unfortunately, loot rolls in a specific way in this game and only some kind of drop number booster would work for boosting capsule gain as far as booster items go, and i think that quality is a very rare effect (I'm completely unaware of anything boosting it besides, like, event mission boosts, similar to what we have going on currently with AQ)

adjl posted...

Noted. I stumbled across the Sigma TMG somewhere or other, but it's quite outclassed by my Nox one and I don't yet have the Dex for it (I'm at 66-67 right now, iirc), plus regular TMG attacks aren't exactly the best for damage.

sigmas aren't generally better than nox, yeah. it's just that the main downside to sigma weapons (dex requirement) is also a strength (all classes can end up equipping it eventually). you'd need a +200 dex mag to equip it early on though lol

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Yeah I've got a dex mag at 142 atm. The main benefit of sigma over nox is that they aren't class locked so you can use the AR and launcher on all classes while leveling assuming you have the dex which becomes easier as you get more class boosts. I've yet to find a decent bastad with like a mark or something so I'm just using the AR for now. Can literally just hit autorun and hold down left click through the entire level.

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agesboy posted...

they're still kinda ok in shaq because it helps with drops for stuff like 13* worth 2-3m each, at least,

I don't believe I can sell them without paying for premium, unless I've misunderstood how the shops work.

agesboy posted...

and xh magatsu s***s out excubes to the point where sustaining 250% at all times becomes trivial

Even doing it on SH got me a ton of excubes, so I'm not overly worried about the 2-3 I've apparently wasted, but I'm still not going to use them for capsules if that doesn't actually work.

agesboy posted...

sigmas aren't generally better than nox, yeah. it's just that the main downside to sigma weapons (dex requirement) is also a strength (all classes can end up equipping it eventually).

YoukaiSlayer posted...

The main benefit of sigma over nox is that they aren't class locked so you can use the AR and launcher on all classes while leveling assuming you have the dex which becomes easier as you get more class boosts.

Yeah, I figured that was it. I'll keep an eye out for them, though where I don't meet the dex requirement with any classes, I'm in no great rush.

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adjl posted...

I don't believe I can sell them without paying for premium, unless I've misunderstood how the shops work.

excubes can be exchanged for fun tickets, 2 excubes -> 1000 fun iirc. it's entirely feasible to keep up shop forever f2p. your listed stays up when your time runs out so you only need to use another shop pass to relist more stuff, too

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Huh. I guess I have misunderstood it, then. I suppose I should start selling stuff, then.

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make sure you know what to look for before you price it

if it's a 3+ affixed unit with at least one valuable affix (any that are automatically preselected, plus casting/power/shooting 3 or the HP/PP ones at 3), augment price it, item pricing is worthless for units unless it's magatsuhi, brissa, or saiki

if it's a sigma weapon at augment level 4 or higher, item price then price around that. people buy these en masse to level their 13*, and +5 ones go for like 100k each. price them near the minimum price and people will buy these really fast, making room for more sales

if it's a 13* weapon, item price it, and price based on element and the amount of affixed attack/hp/pp it already has. something like +40 of the relevant attack type can bump up price, +100 will bump up price a LOT, and +150 means you're now super rich

most items you get will be trash, i wouldn't list anything less than 5k unless it's stackable. also go through your sales list every day or two and reprice old stuff

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Yeah, I'm expecting most stuff I get to be trash. I did go out of my way the other day to check every item dropped by Apprentice Replica for the Apprentice Soul affix, and found one, but this sort of game tends to shower the player with useless loot that must be sifted through to fine the occasional gem.

As far as units go, should I be trading my Rising 2 badges in for Rising 1 to get a full Brissa set or just saving them to buy Ray units to put rings on? I'm coming up on unlocking XH, so it should be reasonably easy to farm more of them soon enough, and I figure I should start taking units a bit more seriously.

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ray absolutely, those rising 2 badges accumulate kinda slowly and you can just trade for brissa (they drop from magatsu so their value has tanked in price)

ray units can technically drop in ultimate quests, but only from the main boss of it, and in about 25 hours of grinding ultimates i've seen none yet... but i have seen many nemesis/slave weapons

i went ahead and affixed my brissa units to 3 slots even though i'm gonna upgrade to ray sometime. 3 slots is super ez and the gear will be useful for levelling classes anyways

http://arks-layer.com/abilitysim/na/#!tjsVZbILGtKsZIJrmsJxMLsKVtCsnbKxMGsL2MsbLJxMGsMxMLsNxMLtix8GxRErmtf2MsINGaJLtR

you can make something similar to this for melee/ranged, and change the technique+pp to just technique to save money if your stat is too expensive (they were 200k for tech ones). if you just want to work towards a 2 slot first and do 3 slot later in the week (or even use this as fodder for your brissa/ray in the future), you can slap stat 3 + relevant soul on for super super super cheap

(+30% is 20 excubes, you can do a +10% and risk it but imo not worth it. also +20% need like AC items or some shit)

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I've seen it mentioned a few times that 3 day shop pass is a 0.43 chance from the FUN scratch so you'd average 1 per 250 scratches which is 50 excubes worth of fun. Basically 1 magatsu = 3 day shop pass. That said, I've had terrible RNG and not gotten any. Not sure if the number is accurate either, just parroting what I've seen a few times.

It's also kinda weird to me that they still give fun for stuff like revives and kudos. It's such a minuscule amount compared to 500 FUN per deo that it's like, why bother?

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

It's also kinda weird to me that they still give fun for stuff like revives and kudos. It's such a minuscule amount compared to 500 FUN per deo that it's like, why bother?

it's quite a bit more if you have premium, everyone you see sending kudos after base defense missions probably has premium (or enjoys wasting their time...)


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I mean I still send gg cause it takes no time at all but not for the FUN. Just weird that I'm rewarded like 12 fun. Oh cool, I do 40 base defense missions and It equals 1 deo. I did not know premium got more. I highly suspect the excube FUN thing is a somewhat more recent addition than the other stuff because FUN is effectively a dead currency in the current iteration of the game due to the excube trading.

Speaking of mining defense, I'm glad I'm seeing a lot of people online hate it and not just me. It's basically a mix between target practice and a gear check.

I did a bit more VHAQ grinding and I'm seeing the launcher/AR strat really catching on. It's kind of a shame because its so boring but it's just way more effective than anything else. Literally just holding down left mouse button for 15 minutes at a time during PSE burst and there ya go, I whole level. Now hunter is at 69 and fighter at 50 but I'm out of motivation for today to keep playing. I don't have anything else I can really do with my time but I might stop playing regardless and just idk, watch more youtube videos and lie down more I guess.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

I highly suspect the excube FUN thing is a somewhat more recent addition than the other stuff because FUN is effectively a dead currency in the current iteration of the game due to the excube trading.

it's been this way since episode 3 when magatsu was first introduced

pretty sure magatsu even dropped more shit than he does now (plus way more were 10* because there was no sigmas in the pool, and the 12* were legitimately rare cuz highest rarity at the time), but kills were way slower and there was also a significant chance of failure on the higher difficulties. so you barely got in two runs instead of a basically guaranteed 4

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Speaking of mining defense, I'm glad I'm seeing a lot of people online hate it and not just me. It's basically a mix between target practice and a gear check.

the early ones are definitely annoying as hell, being good at them when they were current 100% came down to movement skill involving chaining dashes, jumps, and step attacks to move very slightly faster. 4th one is nice because it's more centralized and compact (and gets SUPER compact during the last phase, focusing mostly on the boss fight aspect). ep5 buster quests.... are hit or miss, but I mostly like them. they're mostly set up like the first base defense (4 in a line) but you have ton of tools to slow down enemies with and four players can even choose different defensive loadouts for each tower. plus you also spend about half the time utterly ignoring the towers so people generally do actually spread out and defend during defense phases, instead of getting antsy and running around everywhere

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I just hate that it's not fighting. The enemies just ignore you until its too late. It's boring. The fun part of action combat is reacting to enemies attacks and finding windows to counter. That is not at all present in mining defense or at least only very briefly if you are defending a tower alone.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

That is not at all present in mining defense or at least only very briefly if you are defending a tower alone.

It definitely is when playing on a difficulty where everything doesn't melt like butter. Some of my favorite memories of the game are of tanking a boss like vibrace by myself until I buy enough time for others to come help me, tagging everything I can as they run past me. Situations like that are even still the case in JP for the big buster quest urgent quest because it's insanely hectic spawning like 5 bosses at a time, and we've for the most part powercrept that one too.

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I hit 70 today, which is fun, but I seem to be somewhat confused as to how Ultimate quests work. Far as I could tell, they're set up similarly to expedition quests in that you just work your way through the zone to the boss and kill whatever you want/complete emergency events as desired on the way. Actually playing one, though, the party just kept doing laps and killing regular enemies/clearing events without ever progressing to the next area, treating it more like a roaming UQ (like Wind & Rain). Is that the preferred method of farming them?

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The meta with ult quests is just to farm laps around the area and leave via dropship when you are done unless the whole party is ready to leave in which case go kill the boss. The only thing that can drop circuray units is the boss but everything can drop nemesis/slave so people just do that.

Don't bring AI units and try to fill parties to maximize the party triboost. The drop rate is very low for the good stuff and theres only like 3 bosses + the disaster boss in either map so it gets extremely repetitive. In naverius you get the dragon, the rockbear, and the mamoth bosses. In lilipa you get gun banther, claw banther, and big ass robot.

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Makes sense. I bailed on the one I was in just now by going to the boss, which took a while and several revives to bring down solo and when I had no prior experience with its attack patterns, but bailing via dropship does seem more practical (especially where I may or may not have spawned a bunch of enemies on the path I took to reach the boss that weren't on the path of the farming laps >.>).

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it's pso2 day, so now is a good time to do some AQ, especially if you have premium (+100% exp on top of the current +150% from arks boost rally on top of the innate 100% from AQ on top of boosters and party triboosts)

1-slot rappy fever (since it has a 100% transfer rate, it's actually trivial to upslot it as fodder) on units goes for 80k right now. even weapon ones are like 40-50k

it'll drop throughout the day and then rise steadily for the rest of the month till the next pso2 day (the 2nd), because arks fever/max are really good universal affixes

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