Poll of the Day > Don't Wear A Mask: "Go To Jail" Says California

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https://www.sbsun.com/2020/04/07/s-b-county-residents-must-wear-masks-in-public-have-virtual-religious-services-to-slow-coronavirus/amp/

San Bernardino County in California has now made it a crime to not wear a face covering when anywhere outside of your home.

Face coverings must be ones that secure to the ears or back of the head and covers the mouth and nose. Homemade cloth ear loop covers, bandanas and handkerchiefs, and neck gaiters may be used, said county officials, but surgical masks and N95 masks must not be used as they are to be saved for health care works and emergency responders.

Failure to comply can result in a fine of $1000 per day and/or up to 90 days jail time.

There was no warning period provided and as such the measure requires immediate compliance.

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I think just in general you should consider wearing some type of face covering even when this is over.

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what would happen if you went into a bank with one though lol

and jail would be stupid yeah force people to be near each other with or without the virus

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At what point will we all say "enough" and refuse to follow these new rules? It's like we can't do anything without being reminded about the coronavirus.

OmegaM posted...

At what will point will we all say "enough" and refuse to follow these new rules? It's like we can't do anything without being reminded about the coronavirus.

My thoughts exactly. I had to go to 3 different stores before finding one and literally got the last bandanas off the shelf for my household but the whole time I thought it crazy that Id effectively be able to be jailed because everywhere was all sold out.

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About time! These are the type of steps we need to be taking if we are going to kill this virus. These spreaders out there need to be locked up for refusing to protect themselves and others from this deadly disease.

Good. Start fining all the idiots that think theyre smarter than medical experts

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Gamerz4Justice posted...

About time! These are the type of steps we need to be taking if we are going to kill this virus. These spreaders out there need to be locked up for refusing to protect themselves and others from this deadly disease.

The measure being mandated is being used by the government not to actually stop the virus but to be used as a visual reminder of social distancing. The cloth protection being required is not able to stop the virus, as only the masks being explicitly excluded and reserved for medical personnel is designed and capable to do just that.

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Mead posted...

Good. Start fining all the idiots that think theyre smarter than medical experts

As well as all the poor people who spent their last dollar already this week and cant buy a bandana or other compliant face covering, as well as those who were not psychic enough to predict that they needed to buy one yesterday at the latest of they expected to be able to get one.

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Hold up, the paragraphs you copied here aren't in that order in the article...

The countys Acting Health Officer on Tuesday, April 7, formally ordered everyone in the county to wear a face covering when leaving home to help slow the spread of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.
County public health officials are also ordering that all religious services be done electronically, including upcoming Easter celebrations. Residents are being told to stay home and not participate in driving parades or drive-up services or to pick up non-essential items such as pre-packaged Easter eggs or bags of candy or toys at drive-thru locations.
Violation of the orders is a crime punishable by up to a $1,000 fine or imprisonment up to 90 days, or both.

To me in sounds like violating any of the SIP orders leads to the punishment, not solely the face mask one?

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aDirtyShisno posted...

As well as all the poor people who spent their last dollar already this week and cant buy a bandana

Lol

What planet do you live on? Last I checked poor people aren't literally lacking clothes and cloth

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Either way, I do think the fines are excessive on the face of it, but that's part of the point: they're ridiculously punitive to discourage people from taking the risk of going outside for unnecessary gatherings in the first place. It will make some people think twice, and I'm sure others will think, "there's no way they'd actually fine me for this shit." Who's to say how many it will affect?

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RCtheWSBC posted...

Hold up, the paragraphs you copied here aren't in that order in the article...

To me in sounds like violating any of the SIP orders leads to the punishment, not solely the face mask one?

I didnt copy the whole article, only the parts about the face mask. Thats why I provided the link.

Yes violating any provisions of the order is subject to fines and/or jail time, but the most ridiculous part of the order is the penalties for not wearing a covering they they ADMIT is solely for aesthetics to remind people to stay away and doesnt actually improve your chances not to contract the virus.

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It's funny because when this first broke out I was making fun of people for wearing masks because the WHO told people they didn't help.

Now I don't want anyone within 6 feet of me without a mask on. Just eat your pride and stop being that guy. The government did a 180. The only experts telling you masks don't help are probably trying to prevent a mask shortage, which doesn't really matter if you're making your own.

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Yellow posted...

Lol

What planet do you live on? Last I checked poor people aren't literally lacking clothes and cloth

Lol

What planet do you live on? Last I checked poor people are literally lacking clothes and cloth.

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Yellow posted...

It's funny because when this first broke out I was making fun of people for wearing masks because the WHO told people they didn't help.

Now I don't want anyone within 6 feet of me without a mask on. Just eat your pride and stop being that guy.

And they still agree that thats true. They just require it now to remind people to stay away from each other, which is ridiculous.

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No they don't.

And if you consider anything Donald Trump says as the government speaking, this is a 180

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html

aDirtyShisno posted...

Lol

What planet do you live on? Last I checked poor people are literally lacking clothes and cloth.

I know no one who can't spare a single square foot of cloth unless they're fucking homeless, get real

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Yellow posted...

It's funny because when this first broke out I was making fun of people for wearing masks because the WHO told people they didn't help.

Yellow posted...

No they don't.

So you literally dont agree with yourself? Thats funny...

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Wait so where do I get a mask if I dont have one without wearing one

MICHALECOLE posted...

Wait so where do I get a mask if I dont have one without wearing one

Another flaw with the order being immediate. If you dont have the proper covering you have to violate the order in order to go out to obtain the proper covering. Circular logic at its best.

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Yellow posted...

I know no one who can't spare a single square foot of cloth unless they're fucking homeless, get real

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! Is that a lightbulb we hear?

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I have a feeling lawyers are eventually going to be having a field day with all these restrictions.
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Blaqthourne posted...

I have a feeling lawyers are eventually going to be having a field day with all these restrictions.

Fuck yeah! Lol.

https://youtu.be/fz_N2nLg21c

https://youtu.be/P-AhjX9E6vQ

https://youtu.be/JpICYU04bHQ

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Actually the masks, even cloth, do help. They won't stop you from contracting the virus, but it reduces how far the virus will spread from you breathing out, which means it's less likely you will infect others (especially if they stay 6 feet away or more).

Without masks they say it's at least 21 feet away that you can actually infect someone else. With the mask, it reduces how far the virus will reach from where you are breathing, and coughing etc will go mainly into the mask.

It's not perfect, but it would help, and it's crazy at this point not to wear one.

Still the real problem is that so many people are having to go to speciffc places, to get food, to vote, to get money from banks, to get perscriptions from pharmacies etc.

There is no way to avoid doing that, so many people are going to be in close proximity to others who have the virus (even if they don't know it), which is going to continue to spread it.

That needs to be dealt with soon. What happened with the voting today was insane.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

https://youtu.be/fz_N2nLg21c

https://youtu.be/P-AhjX9E6vQ

https://youtu.be/JpICYU04bHQ

He appeared in my recommended list a while back for some reason. I've ended up watching a few dozen of his videos.
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do not pass go, do not collect $200.

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good thing i don't live or work there
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aDirtyShisno posted...

but surgical masks and N95 masks must not be used as they are to be saved for health care works and emergency responders.

What if a person already had those kind of masks?
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Is the government gonna provide masks? It's of my belief anything the government says you must have they should provide.

I should be getting one issued to me by work just have to wait for the inmates to make them. They've dropped making new uniforms in favor of sewing reusable cloth masks for both COs and the inmate population

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Revelation34 posted...

What if a person already had those kind of masks?

Id assume nothing. Theyre trying to emphasize that you shouldnt be buying them. If a cop were to ask you could just say you have a compromised immune system...

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mooreandrew58 posted...

It's of my belief anything the government says you must have they should provide.

Like car insurance.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Is the government gonna provide masks? It's of my belief anything the government says you must have they should provide.

I feel that way too. The government says that if your employer mandates you need something then they have to pay for it but if the government mandates that you need something you have to pay for it, either with cash or time in jail.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Like car insurance.

I can see loopholes on that. You arent made to drive a car so you technically dont need insurance. You just do if you want to drive.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I can see loopholes on that. You arent made to drive a car so you technically dont need insurance. You just do if you want to drive.

You technically don't need to go out.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

You technically don't need to go out.

One has to aquire food. So yes they do.

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I'm glad I don't live it California. It's like a nightmare there. Ever since the virus broke out, they've been talking about California likes it was a different planet on the news. I heard news about them constantly every morning at work, and I'm halfway across the country...

aDirtyShisno posted...

but surgical masks and N95 masks must not be used as they are to be saved for health care works and emergency responders.

Also, I understand wanted to save these for health care workers, but why can't I use them if I already have them? Or is the government going to take their supply, then get mad at the civilians who don't have mask because they took them all?

Yellow posted...

Lol

What planet do you live on? Last I checked poor people aren't literally lacking clothes and cloth

Last I checked, poor people were usually lacking in everything, including clothes and cloth...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Wait so where do I get a mask if I dont have one without wearing one

I was wondering that, as well. Sounds like you have to make one out of your clothes or something...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Is the government gonna provide masks? It's of my belief anything the government says you must have they should provide.

I should be getting one issued to me by work just have to wait for the inmates to make them. They've dropped making new uniforms in favor of sewing reusable cloth masks for both COs and the inmate population

I agree. My job just told us we'll have to start wearing mask. I was telling my co-worker they would have to supply us with them, then. And one co-worker even started asking who was going to give us the mask. Because none of us have any. And the store surely won't. The dooms day preppers probably bought them all, as well...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

You technically don't need to go out.

For food. Or work, for some people...
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What happens if trump goes to that county? Would he get a ticket?

Everyone at my work just got a text (it's only happened once before) about masks now being needed to be worn while working

I was already wearing my own (after the fires here in California most people should already own a box) but now they're being provided upon arrival

Lets see what happens with the number of cases


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wolfy42 posted...

Actually the masks, even cloth, do help. They won't stop you from contracting the virus, but it reduces how far the virus will spread from you breathing out, which means it's less likely you will infect others (especially if they stay 6 feet away or more).

Without masks they say it's at least 21 feet away that you can actually infect someone else. With the mask, it reduces how far the virus will reach from where you are breathing, and coughing etc will go mainly into the mask.

It's not perfect, but it would help, and it's crazy at this point not to wear one.

Still the real problem is that so many people are having to go to speciffc places, to get food, to vote, to get money from banks, to get perscriptions from pharmacies etc.

There is no way to avoid doing that, so many people are going to be in close proximity to others who have the virus (even if they don't know it), which is going to continue to spread it.

That needs to be dealt with soon. What happened with the voting today was insane.

You do realize you dont catch the virus by it being airborne dont you? Well, not never, but the chances of that are very low. The reason we are wearing masks is so we dont touch our face.


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aDirtyShisno posted...

The measure being mandated is being used by the government not to actually stop the virus but to be used as a visual reminder of social distancing. The cloth protection being required is not able to stop the virus, as only the masks being explicitly excluded and reserved for medical personnel is designed and capable to do just that.

It's not because you won't get sick, it's because it lowers the chances of you infecting other people if you don't know you have coronavirus. This is because WHO is observing less contagion rate in Asian countries where face masks are the norm. Please inform yourself.

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MICHALECOLE posted...

Wait so where do I get a mask if I dont have one without wearing one

you can actually use a t-shirt



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About damn time, shithole San Bernadino needed this years ago.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

One has to acquire food. So yes they do.

If we're learning anything from self-quarantine, there are plenty of ways to have food and other goods delivered directly to your house, and it's possible to work from home, so in theory you could spend the next 20+ years never once leaving your house and survive just fine.

Also, the converse there is that, in some states in the US, if you don't own a car, you won't be acquiring food. Because you won't have any means of getting to a store, nor money to spend there even if you could because you won't be able to hold down a job.

If I lost all my vehicles today and couldn't replace them, I'd more or less be dead by the end of the month.
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California turning into an Islamic state. When jails get too full the stoning will begin.

I'm all for recommendations but criminalizing going outside crosses so many lines.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

One has to aquire food. So yes they do.

Because this is the first world, the essential workers can in fact bring the food to you.
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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

You do realize you dont catch the virus by it being airborne dont you? Well, not never, but the chances of that are very low. The reason we are wearing masks is so we dont touch our face.

I'm not quoting a source so look it up if you care, but yeah, supposedly it's most communicable through the air, not through touching stuff and then touching your face etc. That is the reason for the initial 6 feet apart and now a longer distance etc. In theory you can get the virus simply by walking into an area someone who had the virus was in, within 15 minutes or so. You don't have to touch squat, and no, the mask won't even stop you from getting it in that case, but....it will prevent YOU from spreading it as easily (your breathe doesn't travel as far etc).

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Jen0125 posted...

I think just in general you should consider wearing some type of face covering even when this is over.

Sick burn.

If bandanas can be used that's fine. But its been literally impossible to find any medical masks in my area because of all the goddamn hoarders. So maybe they should think of that too.

I do technically live in part of San Bernardino County. And I'm confused by this order, because I heard yesterday that we aren't supposed to leave our homes at all for the next two weeks unless its an emergency. Ah well.

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Mead posted...

you can actually use a t-shirt

Ha! I love that!

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wolfy42 posted...

I'm not quoting a source so look it up if you care, but yeah, supposedly it's most communicable through the air, not through touching stuff and then touching your face etc. That is the reason for the initial 6 feet apart and now a longer distance etc. In theory you can get the virus simply by walking into an area someone who had the virus was in, within 15 minutes or so. You don't have to touch squat, and no, the mask won't even stop you from getting it in that case, but....it will prevent YOU from spreading it as easily (your breathe doesn't travel as far etc).

Video below is what I'm basing my post off of. He states that you cant catch it through airborne paths (or its extremely difficult for that to happen).

Long video, but the first 30 minutes have great advice on how to prevent the spread of the virus. I would recommend watching and sharing with family and friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ&feature=youtu.be

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