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TheKoolAidShoto 02/29/20 5:16:54 PM #52: |
"DMC5 > Tropical Freeze
60 - 40" no KP --- Communists ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:20:01 PM #53: |
If you put all the indie games in a poll against each other, I probably lean towards Stardew Valley coming out on top. It has a ton of fans here and elsewhere. Destiny is only in this bracket because GameFAQs had to nominate something that wasn't NIntendo or Square - and Destiny in 2015 was likely much stronger than it will be now as well, which makes the Starcraft match look ugly.
Between it being an FPS, very divisive even among the fans it has, anti-votes, and prior terrible results...if it wasn't for things like Obra Dinn sneaking in, I would be tempted to call Destiny the weakest entrant in the bracket. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:21:10 PM #54: |
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
"DMC5 > Tropical FreezeDMC could lose if people just side with Nintendo but I have no faith in Donkey Kong Country after DKC2 amounting to anything. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:25:25 PM #55: |
Division 5, Round 1, Match 5
(3) Fallout: New Vegas (14) The Stanley Parable https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6105-best-game-ever-day-14-fallout-new-vegas-vs-bioshock-infinite https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6142-best-game-ever-day-23-round-2-fallout-new-vegas-vs-resident https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5379-best-of-2013-pc Hey, look, transitivity! New Vegas beet Bioshock Infinite straight-up and Bioshock Infinite clobbered Stanley Parable in a GotY poll. Not that you needed that comparison to decide the victor of this match. The impression I get from this board is that New Vegas is being a little underestimated. It has solid showings. Will that matter later down the road? Find out on the next episode of In-Depth Contest Analysis! Expected Result Fallout: New Vegas > The Stanley Parable 70 - 30 -- Division 5, Round 1, Match 6 (6) Dark Souls III (11) Dishonored https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6565-best-of-2016-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6568-best-of-2016-pc https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4954-best-of-2012-best-action-adventure-game Dishonored's GotY poll looks 'okay' until you remember that 2012 was the weakest GotY crop we've ever had and AC3 went on to bomb the final GotY poll. Dark Souls 3 honestly doesn't look THAT much better (2016 was the second-weakest GotY crop we've ever had) but overall it just...put up better numbers and is the kind of game GameFAQs likes more. Not by much but it's enough to cruise past this match en route to getting beat up by New Vegas. Expected Result Dark Souls 3 > Dishonored 61 - 39 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:33:41 PM #56: |
Division 5, Round 1, Match 7
(7) The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (10) Nioh https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6103-best-game-ever-day-14-the-witcher-3-vs-binding-of-isaac https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6945-best-of-2017-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6730-five-months-in-to-2017-whats-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year At a glance, this match had me thinking. Then I looked up the results and haha yeah Binding of Isaac wins. Getting tripled by Witcher 3 isn't great but at least Witcher 3 is a strong game. There's worse results for fodder to have. Nioh has done AWFUL in every poll it's been in, and the Character Action Game genre is simply not one GameFAQs cares much about. Devil May Cry - the king of that genre - never lives up to expectations and Nioh is several rungs below DMC on the hierarchy. Expected Result Binding of Isaac > The First Weeb 55 - 45 -- Division 5, Round 1, Match 8 (2) God of War (15) The Talos Principle https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7473-best-of-2018-game-of-the-year-final-final-vote https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5748-best-of-2014-pc God of War's result against Smash Ultimate is interesting to consider. Does it mean that God of War is really good, or is Smash Ultimate not the default #2 of this bracket like most think it is? Maybe Smash wasn't at that level yet back in 2018 bit has grown since then due to DLC extending its life cycle? Hmm? Oh, yeah, there's a match. Technically speaking. Expected Results Dad of Boy > The Talos Principle 80 - 20 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Big Bob 02/29/20 5:36:30 PM #57: |
As a wise man once said on The Show:
"Nobody cares about Destiny." --- Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 02/29/20 5:37:51 PM #58: |
oh jeez i didn't realize nioh had bombed that hard in polls. yikes.
and okay okay guys you have convinced me on stardew valley/destiny. my pick there was less that destiny was strong and more i didn't trust stardew valley. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/29/20 5:42:58 PM #59: |
I mean, you have every reason to be skeptical of indies. Most of them probably have really low playrates. I'm curious to see how they do.
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ZeldaTPLink 02/29/20 5:45:08 PM #60: |
It's not just an indie though, it's a mobile indie.
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:46:56 PM #61: |
Division 6, Round 1, Match 1
(1) Persona 5 (16) Heavy Rain https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4217-best-of-2010-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4216-best-of-2010-best-new-original-title https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6953-best-of-2017-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game Has any game fallen in favor over the years as much as Heavy Rain has? That game was a big deal when it came out, then everyone woke up a month later and realized that a big budget and stunning technical achievements aren't a substitute for up terrible writing. Persona 5 avoiding the doubling from Breath "I Already Won This Fucking Contest" of the Wild is maybe the most impressive result from a GotY loser we've ever seen. Expected Results Persona 5 > Heavy Rain 75 - 25 -- Division 6, Round 1, Match 2 (8) Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (9) Sid Meier's Civilization V https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5378-best-of-2013-xbox-360 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5467-whats-your-all-time-favorite-4-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6094-best-game-ever-day-11-dark-souls-vs-civilization-v https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game Neither of these games have looked very good. They both did equally bad in the 'favorite # game' poll', and Civ 5's contest claim to fame is getting doubled by Dark Souls. Eeeeeh. This is the kind of match that could be a headache until you realize it's only worth 1 point. I'm siding with Civ 5 because I think it has more fans on GameFAQs. Barely. Assassin's Creed is really dead here and any hype for the series has been wrung dry by Ubisoft. Don't think Black Flag would do better on Dark Souls than Civ 5 did, even if it's the one AC game of the past decade that the fanbase can mostly agree was good. Expected Results Civ 5 > Black Flag 53 - 47 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:47:59 PM #62: |
Stardew Valley probably has a higher playrate here than Destiny does!
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MetalmindStats 02/29/20 5:50:46 PM #63: |
ZeldaTPLink posted...
It's not just an indie though, it's a mobile indie.Stardew's on most platforms at this point, but it started off as a PC game. KamikazePotato posted... Nioh has done AWFUL in every poll it's been in, and the Character Action Game genre is simply not one GameFAQs cares much about.Nioh is a Soulsborne first and foremost, which is a genre GameFAQs cares about, I would argue more than most people realize. That being said, those poll results are pretty awful, though the competition was brutal in both of those polls. However, Nioh has both a higher average GameFAQs rating (+more votes) and superior GameFAQs popularity to Sekiro. I know those aren't very meaningful metrics, but neither are non-contest polls. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people who do." You won the CBX Guru Contest, Advokaiser! Bully for you! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:57:52 PM #64: |
Division 6, Round 1, Match 3
(5) Sonic Mania (12) Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6791-which-scheduled-august-release-are-you-most-looking-forward https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6822-which-scheduled-september-release-are-you-most-looking This match is basically 'game with Sonic in title' vs. 'what?'. Sonic Mania was a breath of fresh air for hardcore Sonic fans, so while I don't think it's playrate was high (at all) the positive word-of-mouth is enough for casual Sonic fans to know that they can vote for it without feeling bad. The Ys series...just isn't very well-known. It has its fans, so I don't think it'll get completely destroyed, but it's up against a big name brand. Expected Results Sonic Mania > Ys VIII 61 - 39 -- Division 6, Round 1, Match 4 (4) Super Meat Boy (13) Slay the Spire https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4214-best-of-2010-best-indie-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7834-best-of-2019-indies Ignore the 9-years-old polls for Super Meat Boy. They honestly don't matter. Super Meat Boy was released back when indie games were just starting to take off, and it was one of the frontliners of the movement. That means that a lot of people played and remember it even though its time in the limelight is long past. I'm not expecting too much from SMB overall, but against a newbie indie game with much less notoriety and little strength on GameFAQs, it cleans house. Expected Results Super Meat Boy > Slay the Spire 65 - 35 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 5:58:35 PM #65: |
MetalmindStats posted...
Nioh is a Soulsborne first and foremost, which is a genre GameFAQs cares about, I would argue more than most people realize. Disagree with you on this, but this is a discussion for later in the topic. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 6:07:34 PM #66: |
Division 6, Round 1, Match 5
(3) Portal 2 (14) Tomb Raider https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6069-best-game-ever-day-5-portal-2-vs-sonic-the-hedgehog-2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7514-whats-your-all-time-favorite-2-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5378-best-of-2013-xbox-360 Tomb Raider is one of those series that always sells well, and even gets remembered by people...even though people don't care about the games that much. They're 'consume and move on' pieces of media. Portal 2 is remembered very fondly to this day, and getting close to Sonic 2 is a pretty good result. I'm not expecting it to have any trouble here. Expected Results Portal 2 > Tomb Raider 65 - 35 -- Division 6, Round 1, Match 6 (6) Kingdom Hearts III (11) Disco Elysium https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7550-with-three-months-gone-what-is-your-pick-for-the-best-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7834-best-of-2019-indies https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year Hah, this match is going to make a lot of random contest-goers upset. Disco Elysium, with it's numerous awards, critical acclaim, and stellar word of mouth, has enough clout to win this matchup on basically every other site. But on GameFAQs? A disappointing JRPG with a Square name brand is more than enough to dispatch a...*haughty sniff*...simple indie game. I mean, for god's sake, look at that Indie GotY Poll. How many people voting Untitled Goose Game ACTUALLY played a game other than it? I have negative faith in KH3 this contest. It released to mixed reviews and the reaction has only gotten worse over time. It's not enough to lose here, but when it faces actual competition... Expected Result KH3 > Disco Elysium 60 - 40 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 6:15:57 PM #67: |
Division 6, Round 1, Match 7
(7) Animal Crossing: New Leaf (10) Street Fighter V https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5374-best-of-2013-3ds https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6074-best-game-ever-day-6-super-mario-world-vs-animal-crossing https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6381-now-that-the-first-half-of-2016-is-over-what-is-your-pick https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game Take the New Leaf vs. Super Mario World poll with a grain of salt. That was the day Tumblr first invaded and they fucking love Animal Crossing. Still a better result than anything SF5 has done! It got slammed on release and has bombed every post-release poll it's ever been in. It's reputation among hardcore fighting game fans has improved over time but that's not what GameFAQs consists of. Animal Crossing is Nintendo and New Leaf had a good reception. Done deal. Expected Result New Leaf > SFV 60 - 40 -- Division 6, Round 1, Match 8 (2) Red Dead Redemption 2 (15) Dying Light https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7462-best-of-2018-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7471-best-of-2018-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5830-what-is-your-pick-for-the-best-game-of-2015-so-far Red Dead Redemption always surprises me with how many fans it has here. While not the most popular thing on GameFAQs, it always puts up solid numbers. Dying Light doesn't even come close. Expected Result RDR2 > Dying Light 70 - 30 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 02/29/20 6:28:02 PM #68: |
New Leaf merely winning 60-40 over a fighting game that was hated on release and hasn't totally rehabilitated its reputation since, when its match will be shortly after New Horizons comes out, would be truly atrocious for it.
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LeonhartFour 02/29/20 6:30:56 PM #69: |
wait Dying Light isn't that inFamous game?
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Mac Arrowny 02/29/20 8:20:15 PM #70: |
Dying Light is by the original Dead Island people, IIRC. Lots of parkour.
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Leonhart4 02/29/20 8:50:57 PM #71: |
MetalmindStats posted...
New Leaf merely winning 60-40 over a fighting game that was hated on release and hasn't totally rehabilitated its reputation since, when its match will be shortly after New Horizons comes out, would be truly atrocious for it. Animal Crossing isn't all that popular here. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 9:37:41 PM #72: |
Division 7, Round 1, Match 1
(1) Dark Souls (16) Hotline Miami https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6136-best-game-ever-day-22-round-2-metal-gear-solid-v-vs-dark https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6157-best-game-ever-day-30-round-3-zelda-a-link-to-the-past-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4955-best-of-2012-best-action-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5381-best-of-2013-download-only I mean...yeah. I think even among the indie games, Hotline Miami is going to be weak. Expected Result Dark Souls > Hotline Miami 75 - 25 -- Division 7, Round 1, Match 2 (8) Rocket League (9) Dragon Ball FighterZ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6197-best-of-2015-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6200-best-of-2015-pc https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7462-best-of-2018-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7464-best-of-2018-xbox-one Eeeh. GameFAQs didn't care about Rocket League but it super didn't care about Dragon Ball Fighterz. Modern (non-Smash) fighting games tend to be bad here so I'll side with Rocket League because it made a decent splash on release and...uh...is the higher seed? Sure why not. Maybe the DBZ brand carries Fighterz to victory but I'm already tired of thinking of this 1 point match. Expected Result Rocket League > DBZ 55 - 45 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 9:48:16 PM #73: |
Division 7, Round 1, Match 3
(5) Yakuza 0 (12) The Witness https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6730-five-months-in-to-2017-whats-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6570-best-of-2016-indies Both of these games did awful in their respective polls but at least people on GameFAQs will recognize the Yakuza name. Well, moreso than The Witness. Expected Result Yakuza 0 > The Witness 65 - 35 -- Division 7, Round 1, Match 4 (4) Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (13) Dead Cells https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6136-best-game-ever-day-22-round-2-metal-gear-solid-v-vs-dark https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7465-best-of-2018-pc https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7468-best-of-2018-indies Dead Cells actually looks like a cut above some of the other indie entrants. Not enough to win here, as MGS is still a name brand, but enough to make MGS5 look bad. I mean, MGS5 has already looked bad but it can always look worse! Like, for example, struggling to double its indie opponent when everyone else is tripling there's. Expected Result MGS5 > Dead Cells 67 - 33 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 9:56:28 PM #74: |
Division 7, Round 1, Match 5
(3) Batman: Arkham City (14) Xenoblade Chronicles 2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6053-best-game-ever-day-1-batman-arkham-city-vs-mega-man-x https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4594-best-of-2011-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6946-best-of-2017-switch You could make a case for XC2 here. Batman had some good poll results but the hype for the series has passed. Xenoblade is more recent, and while it got slammed in GotY, it's was against Odyssey and Breath of the Wild so that's not the most fair representation. Still taking Batman though. I think people just like it more. XC2's reception has been very mixed - I would peg the original to be much stronger despite being less readily available to play. Considering Arkham City was equal to or stronger than Xenoblade last contest, would have had to fall a lot to lose this match. It's possible, but unlikely. Expected Result Arkham City > Xenoblade 2 57 - 43 -- Division 7, Round 1, Match 6 (6) BioShock Infinite (11) Terraria https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5382-best-of-2013-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6105-best-game-ever-day-14-fallout-new-vegas-vs-bioshock-infinite https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4591-best-of-2011-best-download-only-game Against all odds, Bioshock is an FPS series that has made a splash on GameFAQs. Bioshock 1 is pretty strong and Infinite has had solid showings. Terraria is above-average for an indie game but isn't going to come close to winning this match. Round 2 is where things get dicier, but first we have to get through the deluge of blowouts! Expected Result Bioshock Infinite > Terraria 67 - 33 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:01:25 PM #75: |
Division 7, Round 1, Match 7
(7) Diablo III (10) Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4957-best-of-2012-best-role-playing-game-western https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5748-best-of-2014-pc Diablo 3 is going to be worth so little. It pissed off everybody upon release, and while it's gotten better since release (it's expansion did pretty good in the 2014 poll) it never recovered back the good will built-in from Diablo 2. I don't think Blizzard's recent actions will have done much to change that either! Zero Escape was ranked 126th out of 128 in the 2015 X-stats, so it's not the game to take advantage of Diablo 3's flaws, but next round... Expected Result Diablo 3 > VLR 75 - 25 -- Division 7, Round 1, Match 8 (2) The Last of Us (15) Crusader Kings II https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6058-best-game-ever-day-2-the-last-of-us-vs-halo-3 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6118-best-game-ever-day-17-round-2-kingdom-hearts-ii-vs-the-last https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4953-best-of-2012-best-strategy-game This one is gonna be rough. Expected Result TLOU > Crusader Kings 2 80 - 20 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:12:07 PM #76: |
Division 8, Round 1, Match 1
(1) The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (16) Subnautica https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7465-best-of-2018-pc Skyrim is the frontrunner for the title of 'strongest non-Nintendo game'. Subnautica is another indie. Expected Result Skyrim > Subnautica 80 - 20 -- Division 8, Round 1, Match 2 (8) Fate / Grand Order (9) Journey https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6066-best-game-ever-day-4-final-fantasy-vii-vs-journey I can't find a poll for Fate GO. I don't know about this one. Journey got destroyed in 2015 and is in the Bottom 10 of the X-stats but it's facing a mobile gacha game. It's hard for me to imagine even people who play a gacha game voting for it in most scenarios because everyone who plays those recognizes them as frustration-fueled Skinner Box time & money sinks.. Journey is weak as hell but I think people who don't care about either game will flock to it because at least it fits what GameFAQs defines as a game, and one that was very respected upon release. Or maybe FGO wins anyway because Journey is just that weak. Your call! Expected Result Journey > Fate GO 55 - 45 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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imthestuntman 02/29/20 10:16:54 PM #77: |
Big Bob posted...
The Witcher III is literally the worst game AC:O could have gone up against. There is no other game in the bracket that could lay down the SFF hammer on it.Yup. I loved ac Odyssey precisely because it was extremely similar to the Witcher 3. But it certainly wasn't better. --- These minor spelling errors were brought to you by an ipad having no real feedback to enable me to know when i mistype and my own laziness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:27:19 PM #78: |
Division 8, Round 1, Match 3
(5) Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn (12) Crypt of the NecroDancer https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6802-are-you-one-of-the-10-million-cumulative-players-of-final No poll for Crypt of the Necrodancer either! It's a respected indie game but it's up against something with Final Fantasy in the title, and for what it's worth FF14 is the most well-liked MMORPG on the market right now, so... Expected Result FF14 > Crypt of the Necrodancer 62 - 38 -- Division 8, Round 1, Match 4 (4) Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (13) Mario Kart 8 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6575-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year-final-vote https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5547-whats-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year-so-far https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6079-best-game-ever-day-8-super-mario-64-vs-mario-kart-8 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6952-best-of-2017-remakes Oh, hey, an important match. The winner of this probably wins in Round 2 as well. Mario Kart 8 has looked okay in the polls where it doesn't get Nintendo SFFd. It's a popular game right now and a lot of people like it. Uncharted 4 feels like it SHOULD win but this is GameFAQs, where Nintendo reigns supreme, and when you look at Uncharted 4's history it...kind of sucked? Dropping GotY to Pokemon Sun/Moon and FF15 is not the greatest indicator of strength. It doesn't help that Uncharted as a whole has never been great on GameFAQs. Nathan Drake has struggled consistently to find wins even against opponents that should be freebies, and Uncharted 2 - easily the strongest in the series - hasn't been amazing, with its most recent polls being these: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6070-best-game-ever-day-5-uncharted-2-vs-the-walking-dead https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6124-best-game-ever-day-19-round-2-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7514-whats-your-all-time-favorite-2-game Undertale spillover probably hurt it in the Sonic 2 match, but yeah. Could have done better. I also worry that the Uncharted series is going to weaken as time goes on - they're very much 'in the moment' style games and those tend to fade away. Think I'm siding with Mario Kart the more I look at Uncharted 4's GotY poll. It just didn't look very good, and considering the '4 matches a day' format I feel like voters who don't care about either game will pick absently pick Nintendo and call it a day. Expected Result Mario Kart 8 > Uncharted 4 53 - 47 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/29/20 10:29:24 PM #79: |
Spillover definitely hurt in the Sonic 2 match, but it still wouldn't have been particularly close. It just pushed a 62% win out to a doubling.
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:34:16 PM #80: |
Division 8, Round 1, Match 5
(3) Pokemon HeartGold / SoulSilver Version (14) Night in the Woods https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4217-best-of-2010-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4204-best-of-2010-best-ds-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6951-best-of-2017-indies Pokemon GSC-lite versus indie. Yup. Expected Result HGSS > Night in the Wood 75 - 35 -- Division 8, Round 1, Match 6 (6) Celeste (11) Rayman Legends https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7468-best-of-2018-indies https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7471-best-of-2018-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5378-best-of-2013-xbox-360 ...does Rayman Legends also count as an indie game? Regardless, it could skate by here on the 'Rayman' brand name alone (and doesn't that just tell you about the level of strength in this contest?) but I think Celeste takes it. It's one of the few indie games that broke through the glass ceiling. That won't make it a terror on GameFAQs, but I think that's enough to take care of business in Round 1. Expected Result Celeste > Rayman 55 - 45 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:35:16 PM #81: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Spillover definitely hurt in the Sonic 2 match, but it still wouldn't have been particularly close. It just pushed a 62% win out to a doubling. I think maaaybe it could have gotten up to 40% (Undertale was affecting things from the very start of the poll) but not any better than that. I took UC2 to win that fourpack, so whoops! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:40:52 PM #82: |
Division 8, Round 1, Match 7
(7) Divinity: Original Sin II (10) Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6948-best-of-2017-pc https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6953-best-of-2017-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6083-best-game-ever-day-9-zelda-ocarina-of-time-vs-hearthstone Did you know that Hearthstone finished dead last in the 2018 X-stats? Dead. Last. Divinity 2 isn't going to be that strong but at least it won the PC GotY poll. Hearthstone, out of 128 games, finished dead last by a significant margin. Expected Result Divinity 2 > Hearthstone 80 - 20 -- Division 8, Round 1, Match 8 (2) NieR: Automata (15) Bayonetta 2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6945-best-of-2017-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5750-best-of-2014-game-of-the-yearhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6110-best-game-ever-day-15-red-dead-redemption-vs-bayonetta-2 Nier Automata is one of the more interesting games to consider this contest. It's level of strength matters, and there's a decent range it can fall under. As far as Round 1 goes, though, it's not going to struggle. Bayonetta 2 hasn't done AWFUL, all things considered, but it's simply outclassed by a wide margin. Expected Result Nier Automata > Bayonetta 2 70 - 30 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/29/20 10:41:46 PM #83: |
And thus ends Round 1: The Culling of the Indies. Round 2 coming up...sometime.
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scaryice 02/29/20 11:14:02 PM #84: |
I would probably take Isaac over Nioh right now, but don't forget, Nioh 2 is coming out right as this contest starts.
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DoctorJimmy133 03/01/20 1:44:50 AM #85: |
Crusader Kings II got quattuordecupled by XCOM: Enemy Unknown. 80-20 seems a little generous honestly.
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MetalmindStats 03/01/20 2:27:13 AM #86: |
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Crusader Kings II got quattuordecupled by XCOM: Enemy Unknown. 80-20 seems a little generous honestly.I think looking at it like this is a mistake, and the reasons go deeper than the standard healthy skepticism you should have about non-contest polls. Much like a typical well-liked indie game (and yes, I know it's not one), CKII's fanbase was at its lowest point in the first year or so after its release, and it's consistently been on the upswing since then - likely helped by Paradox's trademark DLC drip-feed, of course. Nowadays, CKII is the single most talked-about game in my circles, though that's drastically skewed as they're generally peripheral Civ modding-related communities. On top of that, PC strategy games have a better contest track record here than you probably realize. Civ 4 almost beat Persona 3 in GotD; yes, the latter was merely a cult hit at best back then, but it should still put the lie to the notion that these types of games are too niche to ever win a match here. Civ 5 again proved that Civ perhaps surprisingly has a fanbase on GameFAQs when it only got doubled by Dark Souls in 2015. Most relevant for CKII, Age of Empires II scored 16% on Super Mario Bros. 3 in that same contest, and it's self-evident that The Last of Us is far weaker than Mario 3, more so than CKII is versus AoE II. Of course, all of those results put those respective games firmly below the fodder line, but even Age of Empires II was above the turbofodder level you're expecting for CKII based on that GotY poll. I certainly wouldn't mistake the latter for having real strength here, but it just needs to not be turbofodder to avoid getting quadrupled by The Last of Us, and I think that's doable. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people who do." You won the CBX Guru Contest, Advokaiser! Bully for you! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorJimmy133 03/01/20 3:04:40 AM #87: |
MetalmindStats posted...
Much like a typical well-liked indie game (and yes, I know it's not one), CKII's fanbase was at its lowest point in the first year or so after its release, and it's consistently been on the upswing since then - likely helped by Paradox's trademark DLC drip-feed, of course. Nowadays, CKII is the single most talked-about game in my circles, though that's drastically skewed as they're generally peripheral Civ modding-related communities.Interesting, I didn't know that. I guess the fact that it's the only game in the bracket I haven't heard of makes it way too easy for me to see it as super-turbofodder garbage. --- Advokaiser is the man. Congrats! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperNiceDog 03/01/20 4:53:45 AM #88: |
xp1337 posted...
believe in velvet Velvet is hot. TJF is how berseria is gonna win this --- Advokaiser ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 03/01/20 5:43:54 AM #89: |
Paradox games have a certain...street cred to them.
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azuarc 03/01/20 9:33:57 AM #90: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Did you know that Hearthstone finished dead last in the 2018 X-stats? Dead. Last. Divinity 2 isn't going to be that strong but at least it won the PC GotY poll. Hearthstone, out of 128 games, finished dead last by a significant margin. I actually thought Hearthstone had rally potential in that contest, until Allen squished it against OOT in round 1. It still does have rally potential, and battlegrounds has reinvigorated the game and made it a ton of fun. I would...be tempted to pick it to win, TBH. Although I'm okay with seeing D:OS2 perform "well" too, so this is really a painful match for me to see. --- VGMC13 champion: Ar Nosurge - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE; ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeldaTPLink 03/01/20 10:33:51 AM #91: |
Ok, seeing SF5 losing to Zero Escape And Digimon Cyber Whatever has convinced me.
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KamikazePotato 03/01/20 11:41:21 PM #92: |
Division 1, Round 2, Match 1
Zelda: Breath of the Wild Halo: Reach Link is coming to town. Expected Result BotW > Halo Reach 70 - 30 -- Division 1, Round 2, Match 2 Final Fantasy XV Hollow Knight / Berseria https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6951-best-of-2017-indies Not expecting any trouble from this match. I think FF15 will be relatively weak, but it's still a mainline FF game against either an indie game or a post-Symphonia Tales games. It would have to seriously underperform to drop this. Expected Result FF15 > Hollow Knight / Berseria 61 - 39 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/01/20 11:47:03 PM #93: |
KamikazePotato posted...
It would have to seriously underperform to drop this. friendly reminder that Noctis didn't just lose to a friggin' glove he was utterly destroyed by a friggin' glove --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 03/01/20 11:49:27 PM #94: |
There's only so disappointing modern-day Final Fantasy can be, r-right?
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transience 03/01/20 11:52:17 PM #95: |
how are these in-depth
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WarThaNemesis2 03/01/20 11:53:19 PM #96: |
transience posted...
how are these in-depth 1 inch deep water is still a depth --- Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 03/02/20 12:06:11 AM #97: |
Division 1, Round 2, Match 3
Monster Hunter: World / Bravely Default Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7465-best-of-2018-pc https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7471-best-of-2018-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5741-best-of-2014-3ds https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5750-best-of-2014-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7839-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year-semifinal-vote This is an interesting one. None of these games have particularly impressive GotY polls - Sekiro made it to the final poll but it was in a weak year and it was contending for the #1 spot at all. MH World got blown out in the GotY general poll but it was against really stiff competition. Bravely Default I'm just going to set equal to MHW's strength for the purposes of this writeup and call it a day. Let's check some old stats, because why not. Dark Souls (2015g) VS Monster Hunter 4 (2015g) Dark Souls has a strength of 25.11. Monster Hunter 4 has a strength of 19.09. Dark Souls wins with 61.99% of the vote! A clear win for From Software, but this Monster Hunter World is going to be much stronger than 4 Ultimate and Sekiro is going to be much weaker than Dark Souls. I'll be generous and set Sekiro equal to 2015 Bloodborne (Bloodborne had a much bigger impact on GameFAQs and gaming as a whole). Doing that gets you: Bloodborne (2015g) VS Monster Hunter 4 (2015g) Bloodborne has a strength of 21.24. Monster Hunter 4 has a strength of 19.09. Bloodborne wins with 55.06% of the vote! That already starts to look a lot worse. The issue with From Software games on GameFAQs is that they're not as strong on GameFAQs as you might expect. Bloodborne couldn't compete with FF12 (which is not at all a strong game), and Dark Souls got annihilated by LTTP to the point where it ranked lower in the stats than stuff like Earthbound and Tales of Symphonia. Maybe they've gotten stronger since then, but I'm not holding my breath. GameFAQs has never liked difficult action games very much and I don't see that changing. Monster Hunter isn't going to be super strong but I think it's made a big enough impact to beat a C-tier From Software game. Expected Result Monster Hunter World / Bravely Default > Sekiro 53 - 47 -- Division 1, Round 2, Match 4 The Walking Dead Dragon Quest XI https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6070-best-game-ever-day-5-uncharted-2-vs-the-walking-dead https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7462-best-of-2018-playstation-4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year I'll make this simple. Dragon Quest 8 (2015g) VS The Walking Dead (2015g) Dragon Quest 8 has a strength of 18.84. The Walking Dead has a strength of 12.52. Dragon Quest 8 wins with 66.77% of the vote! Yeah. Once the Walking Dead zetgeist ended, it stopped mattering and it's strength cratered as a result (not that it was particularly strong to begin with). It's only going to be worse now, what with Telltale dying out and people having gotten sick of their style of game even before that. On the flip side, DQ11 has actually done pretty great in GotY polls. It beat out some good competition in 2018, and its re-release on the Switch in 2019 put up decent numbers despite being an enhanced port. It reviewed well, was had a strong reception, and came out on multiple systems. It might actually have taken DQ8's spot as the strongest Dragon Quest game on the site, which...is significantly stronger than it needs to be to win here. Expected Result DQ11 > Walking Dead 69 - 31 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 03/02/20 12:07:01 AM #98: |
transience posted...
how are these in-depthThere's only so many ways to say 'indie game dies'. I'm going into detail for matches that deserve detail! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 03/02/20 12:24:04 AM #99: |
Division 2, Round 2, Match 1
Mass Effect 2 Fallout 4 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4218-best-of-2010-game-of-the-year-final https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6146-best-game-ever-day-24-round-2-starcraft-vs-mass-effect-2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6162-best-game-ever-day-32-round-3-metal-gear-solid-3-vs-mass https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7514-whats-your-all-time-favorite-2-game https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6204-best-of-2015-game-of-the-year ...eeeh... By all rights, Mass Effect 2 should win this. It's a significantly more-liked game than Fallout 4 in every circle, including the Fallout fanbase! It swept GotY 2010. This makes its utter bomb in 2015 even more confusing. Mass Effect 2 squeaked by Starcraft before getting demolished by Metal Gear Solid 3 in match that, by all rights, it was supposed to compete in. It's not like the series was weak that year, because Mass Effect 1 did great and actually ranked higher in the stats! Mass Effect 2 (2015g) VS Fallout: New Vegas (2015g) Mass Effect 2 has a strength of 25.58. Fallout: New Vegas has a strength of 27.79. Fallout: New Vegas wins with 53.98% of the vote! That just doesn't feel right at all. Mass Effect 2's performance in 2015 feels like a statistical anomaly, especially since it went and got a close second in the 'favorite 2 game' poll despite being among a lot of strong games. I find it very hard to believe it's as weak as its stats ranking implies. And if nothing else, Fallout 4 is going to be questionable in this contest. It's GotY result was pretty good buuut since then Bethesda has shit the bed and Fallout 4's clout has fallen as more and more people express their disappointment with the direction it took. It won't be terrible, as it's still Fallout, but I seriously doubt it competes here. ME2 is lucky it got such a soft division. It would be prime upset material in a lot of other ones. Expected Result Mass Effect 2 > Fallout 4 56 - 44 -- Division 2, Round 2, Match 2 Borderlands 2 Horizon Zero Dawn https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4961-best-of-2012-game-of-the-year-final https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6108-best-game-ever-day-15-earthbound-vs-borderlands-2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6945-best-of-2017-playstation-4 Borderlands 2 is a paper tiger and everyone knows it. It won the worst GotY year we've ever had and proceeded to stink it up in 2015, and the series hasn't done itself any favors since then. Borderlands 3 sold well but the reception was very mixed, and on a more general note, we've just...gotten older. Borderlands 2's style of humor, which was kind of entertaining back in 2012, can only be described as 'cringe' by today's standards. People have soured on the writing and tone, the hype is gone, and no one cares anymore. Conversely, Horizon Zero Dawn was very well-received and put up good numbers against strong GotY competition. I'm not expecting it to be the strongest game, but GameFAQs clearly liked it and I imagine it's staying in our memories much more easily than Borderlands is. If you stuck it in Borderlands 2's GotY poll it probably wins, and that was when Borderlands 2 was at its strongest. I wouldn't be shocked if Horizon lost but I think it's unlikely. Expected Result Horizon Zero Dawn > Borderlands 2 55 - 45 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/02/20 12:25:26 AM #100: |
KamikazePotato posted...
It's not like the series was weak that year, because Mass Effect 1 did great and actually ranked higher in the stats! which tells you something went wrong somewhere because there is nowhere on the internet where Mass Effect 1 is more popular than 2 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 03/02/20 12:35:15 AM #101: |
Division 2, Round 2, Match 3
Resident Evil 2 DOOM https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6381-now-that-the-first-half-of-2016-is-over-what-is-your-pick https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year This match gives me a bit of pause, as DOOM is one of the few FPS games of the past decade that GameFAQs actually seems to like, but in the end I don't think it has a chance here. Resident Evil 2 was universally praised, comes with a brand name attached to it, and won a (relatively weak), GotY poll. I can't see DOOM doing what RE2 did when it couldn't beat out Overwatch or Uncharted 4. Expected Result RE2 > Doom 59 - 41 -- Division 2, Round 2, Match 4 Fire Emblem: Awakening Bloodborne https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5374-best-of-2013-3ds https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6088-best-game-ever-day-10-fire-emblem-awakening-vs-super-mario https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6133-best-game-ever-day-21-round-2-dk-country-2-vs-fire-emblem https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6097-best-game-ever-day-12-bloodborne-vs-final-fantasy-xii https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6204-best-of-2015-game-of-the-year Fire Emblem: Awakening (2015g) VS Bloodborne (2015g) Fire Emblem: Awakening has a strength of 22.89. Bloodborne has a strength of 21.24. Fire Emblem: Awakening wins with 53.60% of the vote! Tough one. Bloodborne has some reason to be stronger than it was in 2015 - its reputation and playrate have only grown with time. Fire Emblem Awakening managed to reach a general audience and basically saved the franchise, but I'm not sure people still care about it that much? They still like it but Three Houses has kind of supplanted it as the most popular modern-day Fire Emblem game. The general upswing of the Fire Emblem series means that by all rights the game should be a bit stronger, but I just don't get the impression that people care about it as much as they used to. Awakening is probably the slightly safer choice, as I do believe that it wins this matchup in 2015, but I'm taking Bloodborne because I like it more and it has more room to have gotten stronger since then. Or maybe it's exactly the same and Awakening is riding high on the Fire Emblem series' success and this match won't be close! We really won't be able to tell which is true until the dust has cleared. Expected Result Bloodborne > Fire Emblem: Awakening 52 - 48 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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