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Darmik
11/12/19 11:49:09 PM
#51:


Like the bully isn't worth defending over it but really I think after you're done with high school it's time to just move on and break ties with anyone you dislike. So I don't really see the point of doing this.
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OpenlyGator
11/13/19 12:20:34 AM
#52:


CruelBuffalo posted...
nemu posted...
Seems fair. Regardless if the bully was just an asshole or using the bullying as a coping mechanism for his own physical or mental abuse, tormenting another person is not in any way justifiable. Maybe in some universe it would have been possible to open up a dialogue of understanding, but the victim owes nothing to the bully.


Correct, the victim never has to forgive the bully. However the question is was he being an asshole with that post, and yes he was. He could have moved on, ignored it, blocked him, etc.

Did he think everyone was gonna gang up on him with a passive aggressive post and be like yeah go kill yourself asshole!!!

The bully left himself open for possible retaliation for *drumroll* being a bully. He did the deed, he accepted the potential consequences. Never mind that his victim's retaliation was just text over the internet...

If the bully also participated in physical harassment towards the victim (very common in high school bullying), I certainly would not fault the victim for merely casting justifiable shade at a ripe opportunity. Many victims would have understandably sought to do worse.

Either way, it's the bully's fault for getting snubbed later on for being an ass in youth. Morally it's not the victim's responsibility to reach out on that for closure. A reformed bully would seek to make amends, which apparently was not attempted in this case. So you will see no sympathy for the bully from me. His actions set himself up for backlash.
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St0rmFury
11/13/19 12:22:54 AM
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Lots of supporters of bullying ITT...
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ChainedRedone
11/13/19 12:23:34 AM
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Both are scum and deserve persecution for their actions
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Axiom
11/13/19 12:25:45 AM
#55:


It probably would have been more productive with less drama if he had just talked to him privately and said "Hey remember when you bullied me. How about we talk about the fact that you're bisexual now" instead of putting him on blast

Then again I don't really care that he did do this so eh
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NonDairyMiltank
11/13/19 12:41:17 AM
#56:


Darmik posted...
Like the bully isn't worth defending over it but really I think after you're done with high school it's time to just move on and break ties with anyone you dislike. So I don't really see the point of doing this.

catharsis

and i side with the victim outing his bully
if you're a major jerk to people in the past, that doesn't magically shield you from criticism years later

and thats what the victim brought: a giant block of justified criticism
the victim should not be gettin shame for that at all

i went through similar shit as a gay girl in high school
other girls bullied me for being homosexual and not being another fuckin cheerleading prostitute like they were
if i heard they came out as anything but straight later i would be first in line to roast their hypocritical asses for that
and the best roasts have an audience

bully was a fool for leavin himself open to payback lol
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Jerry_Hellyeah
11/13/19 12:57:51 AM
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Effeminate dude cries and wants drama over 10 year old high school stuff? You dont say.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
11/13/19 12:58:50 AM
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And it sounds like he was made fun of for being a sissy, not for his sexuality.
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Wii_Shaker
11/13/19 12:59:53 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
And it sounds like he was made fun of for being a sissy, not for his sexuality.

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jumi
11/13/19 5:36:42 AM
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ChopinList posted...
It is an extension of "don't speak ill of the dead". When someone comes out as LGBT you can't bring up the bullying they did. Like that person in the article said. No one knows what the bully was going through.


What about Kevin Spacey?
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spikethedevil
11/13/19 5:45:04 AM
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Still using words like sissy? Really?
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ROBANN_88
11/13/19 9:12:20 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
Why is he holding onto a decade old grudge?

Unless the bully was still being a dickwad then calling him out is maximum petty.


bullying can leave psychological scars that can last a lifetime.
don't act like it's his fault for still having it somewhere in the back of his head.
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AlisLandale
11/13/19 9:26:26 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
bullying can leave psychological scars that can last a lifetime.
don't act like it's his fault for still having it somewhere in the back of his head.


Its his fault for being a petty dingus and going out of his way to start drama with some dude he hadnt seen in ten years.

Shit, theres plenty of people from high school I dont think I could bring myself to like very much, but Im not going to pop into their social media out of the blue and make their shit all about me and my own inability to manage my mental health.
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St0rmFury
11/13/19 9:48:26 AM
#64:


AlisLandale posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
bullying can leave psychological scars that can last a lifetime.
don't act like it's his fault for still having it somewhere in the back of his head.


Its his fault for being a petty dingus and going out of his way to start drama with some dude he hadnt seen in ten years.

Shit, theres plenty of people from high school I dont think I could bring myself to like very much, but Im not going to pop into their social media out of the blue and make their shit all about me and my own inability to manage my mental health.
>_>

So you're victim blaming then.
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Medzzz
11/13/19 1:03:49 PM
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jumi posted...
ChopinList posted...
It is an extension of "don't speak ill of the dead". When someone comes out as LGBT you can't bring up the bullying they did. Like that person in the article said. No one knows what the bully was going through.


What about Kevin Spacey?

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Jerry_Hellyeah
11/13/19 1:19:55 PM
#66:


The real problem here is that the bully obviously didnt bully this guy enough.
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sylverlolol
11/13/19 1:36:06 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
While it would have been more mature to do through messaging, I dont blame him at all for doing it publicly.

Agree with this.
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closetjpopfan
11/13/19 3:51:43 PM
#68:


Kensaimage posted...
So what is the point? We should just prostrate ourselves for the sins of our past and skip some kind of meaningful reconciliation?

Yeah, thats helpful to society as a whole. Were really changing the world, here.

The "point" is to give the bully an opportunity to come clean, to repent. What, the bully was approached in a less than gentle way? Well boo-fucking-hoo.

marc55 posted...
being

you mean present time?

nothing ive read so far says he is still a bully

can you link where you read this ?

Being, present time, yessir. The moment the bully comes out he stands not just a bully (yes, still, as far as I know there's no statute of limitations on bullying, lel) but more importantly and relevant a hypocrite. Again, it's not his bullying that's the problem, it's his hypocrisy.

Again. If the bully had included an apology, heck just a confession and acknowledgment of his bullying (to no one in particular) when he came out, that would have been completely different.
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Kensaimage
11/13/19 6:09:46 PM
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closetjpopfan posted...
The "point" is to give the bully an opportunity to come clean, to repent. What, the bully was approached in a less than gentle way? Well boo-fucking-hoo.

Being, present time, yessir. The moment the bully comes out he stands not just a bully (yes, still, as far as I know there's no statute of limitations on bullying, lel) but more importantly and relevant a hypocrite. Again, it's not his bullying that's the problem, it's his hypocrisy.

Again. If the bully had included an apology, heck just a confession and acknowledgment of his bullying (to no one in particular) when he came out, that would have been completely different.


You dont owe anybody anything in life, dude. The whole thing could have been handled better. Has nothing to do with shielding the bully. Its about closure. Actual closure. Not just going out of your way to be a self righteous ass on social media. There was nothing to gain from that except shame somebody else.

Thats not productive and it helps no one. If you wanna go around punishing others for the past, then pretty much anyone over anything is free game. Thats why this is petty.

Nobody wants closure though. Just social media outrage whenever possible. Any excuse to be offended by something or someone

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closetjpopfan
11/13/19 7:17:23 PM
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Fuck closure! Big time fuck closure. Now the gay guy on top of everything needs to seek "closure"?? Give me a fucking break.

The gay guy is practically irrelevant to this whole thing, this isn't about the victim, it could have been anyone calling out the bully. It's not about "owing" anybody anything, certainly not "closure". This is about calling out a hypocrite. There aren't many nice ways to do it, sorry. Hey, you're a fucking hypocrite. Is it ugly? Yeah it's ugly, sorry it ruins your beautiful moment or whatever, but yeah, I guess it does. It fucking should. But if the bully actually changed then something positive can still come out of it. If you did something wrong but you repent, and then someone calls you out on it, IN WHATEVER WAY, you acknowledge your wrong and you apologize. And shame be fucking damned.
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dave_is_slick
11/13/19 7:21:17 PM
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closetjpopfan posted...
Fuck closure! Big time fuck closure. Now the gay guy on top of everything needs to seek "closure"?? Give me a fucking break.

The gay guy is practically irrelevant to this whole thing, this isn't about the victim, it could have been anyone calling out the bully. It's not about "owing" anybody anything, certainly not "closure". This is about calling out a hypocrite. There aren't many nice ways to do it, sorry. Hey, you're a fucking hypocrite. Is it ugly? Yeah it's ugly, sorry it ruins your beautiful moment or whatever, but yeah, I guess it does. It fucking should. But if the bully actually changed then something positive can still come out of it. If you did something wrong but you repent, and then someone calls you out on it, IN WHATEVER WAY, you acknowledge your wrong and you apologize. And shame be fucking damned.

I can hear the crying.
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Kensaimage
11/13/19 7:58:02 PM
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closetjpopfan posted...
Fuck closure! Big time fuck closure. Now the gay guy on top of everything needs to seek "closure"?? Give me a fucking break.

The gay guy is practically irrelevant to this whole thing, this isn't about the victim, it could have been anyone calling out the bully. It's not about "owing" anybody anything, certainly not "closure". This is about calling out a hypocrite. There aren't many nice ways to do it, sorry. Hey, you're a fucking hypocrite. Is it ugly? Yeah it's ugly, sorry it ruins your beautiful moment or whatever, but yeah, I guess it does. It fucking should. But if the bully actually changed then something positive can still come out of it. If you did something wrong but you repent, and then someone calls you out on it, IN WHATEVER WAY, you acknowledge your wrong and you apologize. And shame be fucking damned.


Yeah, except nobody is gonna prostrate themselves and beg forgiveness so somebody can ride a high horse. If you arent seeking closure or some kind of reconciliation, then youre just out to get some kind of petty revenge.

Who DIDNT get bullied in high school for fuck sakes? Also, hows the guy a hypocrite? For what? Bullying another gay dude for being effeminate? Are all gay people apart of some cult where the etiquette is that they all have to like each other? You can bully someone for anything.

Hell, by classic standards you might say the bully had a thing for the gay dude, lol.

Point is that nobody is gonna halt their lives and address somebody going full diva on your fuckin page like some kind of stuck up ass. Their just gonna block em. You know why? Cuz nobody has time for unproductive whining whether theyre in the wrong or not. Doesnt justify invading somebodys personal life.

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closetjpopfan
11/15/19 10:41:34 AM
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Oooh, you're disturbing my personal life~
Why do you have to go public with this, what's the benefit~

Boo. Fucking. Hoo. Fuck your personal life. Fuck your personal life hard, fucking hypocrite.
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Solid Sonic
11/15/19 10:43:31 AM
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I certainly wouldn't air dirty laundry over that but I also wouldn't let the guy forget and see if he's willing to be more open-minded now.

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Kensaimage
11/15/19 1:14:52 PM
#75:


closetjpopfan posted...
Oooh, you're disturbing my personal life~
Why do you have to go public with this, what's the benefit~

Boo. Fucking. Hoo. Fuck your personal life. Fuck your personal life hard, fucking hypocrite.


I think you need a hug or something

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PatrickMahomes
11/15/19 1:40:54 PM
#76:


Why is he facebook friends with someone who tormented him relentlessly?

Unrelated but lol at an AITA post being "news"
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ROBANN_88
11/15/19 1:53:36 PM
#77:


PatrickMahomes posted...
Why is he facebook friends with someone who tormented him relentlessly?


ROBANN_88 posted...
stone posted...
FvP posted...
Gay dude should have not had the bully in his social media. Should have just avoided the whole thing.

This seriously. And if they were somehow friends, he needs to choose his friends better.


from the reddit post:
"His post popped up on my feed due to a few mutual friends commenting and liking it."

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marc55
11/15/19 6:17:48 PM
#78:


closetjpopfan posted...
This is about calling out a hypocrite

dont lie

so far i asked more than once for a source or link anything to prove the guy is still a bully

because he would only be an hypocrite if he is still bullying

so far

nothing about it
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ROBANN_88
11/15/19 6:36:04 PM
#79:


marc55 posted...
closetjpopfan posted...
This is about calling out a hypocrite

dont lie

so far i asked more than once for a source or link anything to prove the guy is still a bully

because he would only be an hypocrite if he is still bullying

so far

nothing about it


the linked article links to the reddit thread.
in there the guy mentions that he hasn't gotten a single response from the bully, no apology, no nothing.
while that doesn't immediately say "still a bully", it atleast point to "has absolutely no remorse" territory
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Lorenzo_2003
11/15/19 6:48:42 PM
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I probably would not have done what the gay guy did, but I say good for him taking action. He was able to get the revenge, the closure or whatever you want to call it, on his own terms and he wasn't violent about it. A lot of victims don't ever get the justice they think they deserve. I mean you could wait for it or hope that someone else will get it for you, but then you get called petty or unrealistic, and other people have their own shit to deal with. This gay guy clearly wasn't going to let the opportunity to set things right pass him by.
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UnfairRepresent
11/17/19 3:52:49 PM
#81:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
I probably would not have done what the gay guy did, but I say good for him taking action. He was able to get the revenge, the closure or whatever you want to call it, on his own terms and he wasn't violent about it. A lot of victims don't ever get the justice they think they deserve. I mean you could wait for it or hope that someone else will get it for you, but then you get called petty or unrealistic, and other people have their own shit to deal with. This gay guy clearly wasn't going to let the opportunity to set things right pass him by.

How the hell is this "justice"?

It's not, it just being a jerk.
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closetjpopfan
11/18/19 11:27:47 AM
#82:


UnfairRepresent posted...
How the hell is this "justice"?

It's not, it just being a jerk.

It's ugly huh? It's ugly when someone calls out a hypocrite. Is it the fault of the person who calls him out? No, it's ugly because a hypocrite is ugly. What did the gay guy do? He spoke the truth. People don't like hearing it. Tough shit. Sometimes it's ugly, sometimes it's messy, sometimes it's "drama".

What, it's not a nice thing to do to someone? Fuck yeah it's not a "nice" thing to do to someone! Give me a break. Why in the fucking hell must the gay guy be "nice"??

Don't be like Trumpers who say people are obsessed with Trump. "Ooh, stop talking about Trump! That's not nice! You're a jerk!"
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OpenlyGator
11/18/19 11:43:30 AM
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The bully was the one who set all this in motion by being a douche in the first place.
Doesn't really matter how much time past.

If he eventually got backlash for it later (any type of backlash), wow omg what a shocker. Gosh, how rare and unexpected...

When you bully other people, don't whine about getting nailed back with revenge when you let your guard down.
You literally gave someone else an incentive to fuck with you back.

Don't want shit, don't start shit.
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Monolith1676
11/18/19 11:58:12 AM
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The bully was probably flirting witg the dude and never wanted to admit it.

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MKScorpion
11/18/19 12:16:25 PM
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So what is the debate here? Bully was a POS, and the gay dude had every right to point this out since he caused him so much pain.
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WarDog2016
11/18/19 12:22:40 PM
#86:


FvP posted...
Gay dude should have not had the bully in his social media. Should have just avoided the whole thing.

Wokeness must strive to shame in public. So it was written.
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WerewolfPaws
11/18/19 12:28:46 PM
#87:


AlisLandale posted...
Why is he holding onto a decade old grudge?

Unless the bully was still being a dickwad then calling him out is maximum petty.



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Funkydog
11/18/19 12:34:26 PM
#88:


AlisLandale posted...
Why is he holding onto a decade old grudge?

Unless the bully was still being a dickwad then calling him out is maximum petty.


Being made to feel like you are less than a person because of your sexuality is hardly a grudge. What the bully did was awful and it is something he should could terms with and rectify. Accept he was a terrible person and make amends for it. He absolutely does not "get a pass" because it was some time ago or he himself was bi.

What he did was make someone suffer got something they had no control over. Bullying people over their sexuality (and just in general) leads to severe consequences. What if his victim was one of the many bullying victims who killed themselves, self harmed or remains plagued by mental health issues for the rest of their life?

If the victim "did it in the right way" is largely irrelevant. The bully shouldbe public about his past actions. Accept what he did was awful and apologise for what he did and was. Not keep it hidden away from others.
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The Admiral
11/18/19 12:37:29 PM
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It's been over 10 years, and they're all adults now. Gay dude just seems pretty and needs to get over it.
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BENGHAZl
11/18/19 12:38:44 PM
#90:


It really rubs me the wrong way when people use queer as a synonym for gay. Not everyone is comfortable being referred to as a slur, even if you feel its reclaimed.
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Funkydog
11/18/19 12:54:02 PM
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BENGHAZl posted...
It really rubs me the wrong way when people use queer as a synonym for gay. Not everyone is comfortable being referred to as a slur, even if you feel its reclaimed.

Only mention I see of it being used in this topic was by the lgbt news site, so seems a fair usage to me. Many "in the community" use it specifically to make it a reclaimed word. Only way to reclaim it is by the people to use it themselves, so it no longer has the same impact.
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JoeDangIt
11/18/19 12:55:37 PM
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Everything should be public.
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marc55
11/18/19 6:33:02 PM
#93:


Funkydog posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Why is he holding onto a decade old grudge?

Unless the bully was still being a dickwad then calling him out is maximum petty.


Being made to feel like you are less than a person because of your sexuality is hardly a grudge. What the bully did was awful and it is something he should could terms with and rectify. Accept he was a terrible person and make amends for it. He absolutely does not "get a pass" because it was some time ago or he himself was bi.

What he did was make someone suffer got something they had no control over. Bullying people over their sexuality (and just in general) leads to severe consequences. What if his victim was one of the many bullying victims who killed themselves, self harmed or remains plagued by mental health issues for the rest of their life?

If the victim "did it in the right way" is largely irrelevant. The bully shouldbe public about his past actions. Accept what he did was awful and apologise for what he did and was. Not keep it hidden away from others.


i never met someone who goes around telling his years old mistakes to everyone he meets ...
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cjsdowg
11/19/19 5:41:47 PM
#94:


AlisLandale posted...
Why is he holding onto a decade old grudge?

Unless the bully was still being a dickwad then calling him out is maximum petty.


There is nothing petty about this. Bullies can make the happiest time of people life hell.
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