Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 241: Trump Goes Coup-Coup

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Some great replies here
https://twitter.com/jimswiftdc/status/1180093803287470082?s=21

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omfg

https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/1180190089059721221?s=21

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/jimlaporta/status/1180173265551142913?s=21

genuinely impressive how bad Jacob Wohl is at this

As much as hes a fucking asshole moron he is fully aware that in today's world it doesn't matter how credible his bullshit is and as long as he isn't criminally liable for anything he suffers no repercussions.

LordoftheMorons posted...

omfg

https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/1180190089059721221?s=21

Remember this is all just a nothingburger
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-hotel-washington-dc-bribery-investigation-rooms-a9143236.html

Foreign leaders basically just launder money to Trump through his properties to win his favor
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-hotel-washington-dc-bribery-investigation-rooms-a9143236.html

Foreign leaders basically just launder money to Trump through his properties to win his favor

Come on now. Are you saying it's wrong to book a hotel room and not use it? Sometimes travel plans change.
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Pretty disappointed by the ending of the Joaquer n-word countdown :(
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Youre gonna have to explain that to us plebs
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Sanders campaign has confirmed that he had a heart attack three days ago

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Sanders campaign has confirmed that he had a heart attack three days ago

I thought this was obvious.

Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-hotel-washington-dc-bribery-investigation-rooms-a9143236.html

Foreign leaders basically just launder money to Trump through his properties to win his favor

Same response to this.

More phone calls...!
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1180274071881342976?s=21

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Why not distract from impeachment with some abject cruelty??

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/immigrant-visas-health-care.html

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SmartMuffin posted...

Pretty disappointed by the ending of the Joaquer n-word countdown :(

lol if you want to hear the n-word so badly just say it yourself

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

Pretty disappointed by the ending of the Joaquer n-word countdown :(

lol if you want to hear the n-word so badly just say it yourself

Oh he definitely does.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Why not distract from impeachment with some abject cruelty??

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/immigrant-visas-health-care.html

Sorry, but Obama did the exact same thing for Americans. If this is cruel Obamacare is far crueler in that it impacted more people.
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He denied Americans visas...?

Anyway, new Biden ad hitting Trump. Probably smart.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/joe-biden-trump-early-state-campaign-ad/index.html

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red sox 777 posted...

Sorry, but Obama did the exact same thing for Americans. If this is cruel Obamacare is far crueler in that it impacted more people.

No.

LordoftheMorons posted...

He denied Americans visas...?

Anyway, new Biden ad hitting Trump. Probably smart.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/joe-biden-trump-early-state-campaign-ad/index.html

He made it illegal for them not to buy health insurance.
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Trump is cutting down the size of the NSC in a move that I'm sure has absolutely nothing to do with reducing the number of possible witnesses against him and that totally won't negatively impact national security:

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1180326625453445120

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red sox 777 posted...

He made it illegal for them not to buy health insurance.

It's about as illegal as moving money out of an IRA, which is to say it can incur a tax penalty in some circumstances and nothing else.

Of course that's ignoring that the comparison you're making in the first place still wouldn't make any sense, but that's just standard red sox.
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That's only because the Supreme Court said the original penalty was unconstitutional.
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red sox 777 posted...

He made it illegal for them not to buy health insurance.

No, he taxed them for not buying health insurance.

But the Trump plan is literally to uninsure millions of Americans(his plan is literally pre Obamacare status quo).

That is actual cruelty.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/pompeo-subpoena-ukraine-documents/

Lock him up!

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Leafeon13N posted...

red sox 777 posted...

He made it illegal for them not to buy health insurance.

No, he taxed them for not buying health insurance.

But the Trump plan is literally to uninsure millions of Americans(his plan is literally pre Obamacare status quo).

That is actual cruelty.

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.
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red sox 777 posted...

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.

but this completely discounts the people that get sick and die now.

Or rather, it doesn't, it just accepts that a percentage of the population dies because they cant afford health insurance. And everyone that can afford health insurance has to pay more because guess what, hospitals arent refusing to treat all the dying people.

But you know, continue parading your literal heartless naivety here.
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red sox 777 posted...

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.

oh, and lets not leave at that. Theres a percentage of people in this group that now has a pre-existing condition.

Guess what, they saved all this money and now they cant afford health insurance.

(And no, they cant afford the treatment either because our actual health care costs are sky high)
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You can shorten all of that you know.

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red13n posted...

red sox 777 posted...

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.

but this completely discounts the people that get sick and die now.

Or rather, it doesn't, it just accepts that a percentage of the population dies because they cant afford health insurance. And everyone that can afford health insurance has to pay more because guess what, hospitals arent refusing to treat all the dying people.

But you know, continue parading your literal heartless naivety here.

You just go to the hospital! Get your treatment for free. Declare bankruptcy if you have to. That's what Trump did with his businesses.
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red sox 777 posted...

red13n posted...

red sox 777 posted...

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.

but this completely discounts the people that get sick and die now.

Or rather, it doesn't, it just accepts that a percentage of the population dies because they cant afford health insurance. And everyone that can afford health insurance has to pay more because guess what, hospitals arent refusing to treat all the dying people.

But you know, continue parading your literal heartless naivety here.

You just go to the hospital! Get your treatment for free. Declare bankruptcy if you have to. That's what Trump did with his businesses.

hospitals do not provide preventative care and we are not able to cure everything.

And again, this makes health care and insurance infinitely more expensive in a for-profit system.

So your supporting a plan that unavoidably kills people.

Again, heartless, disgusting, naivety. That is what you are preaching.
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https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/10/03/21-year-old-oversleeps-jury-duty-goes-to-jail-for-10-days

What the fuck

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How many hugs did he get from the judge though?
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The hell?

I mean him not calling the courthouse when he overslept was probably a big mistake there...but still. How shitty.

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He almost assuredly wouldn't have faced any consequences if he had just not shown up. The judge is just a fucking asshole on a power trip.

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he wouldn't have gone to jail if he was white

If he didn't show up day 1 he would probably be fine. But he was already picked to be on the jury and then didn't show up for day 2.

If he wasted 45 minutes, he wasted 45 minutes for the judge, the other 11 jurors and let's say 2 alternates, the court reporter, the clerk, the bailiff, the attorneys, the parties, and any witnesses for that day (let's say 5). That's 26 people right there. The economic damages are in the thousands of dollars.

Plus, whoever loses now has one more ground for appeal.
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red13n posted...

red sox 777 posted...

red13n posted...

red sox 777 posted...

With all the money they save from not buying health insurance, they'll be able to put food on the table and get out of poverty. Then when they have more assets to protect, they can buy health insurance to protect themselves if they get sick.

but this completely discounts the people that get sick and die now.

Or rather, it doesn't, it just accepts that a percentage of the population dies because they cant afford health insurance. And everyone that can afford health insurance has to pay more because guess what, hospitals arent refusing to treat all the dying people.

But you know, continue parading your literal heartless naivety here.

You just go to the hospital! Get your treatment for free. Declare bankruptcy if you have to. That's what Trump did with his businesses.

hospitals do not provide preventative care and we are not able to cure everything.

And again, this makes health care and insurance infinitely more expensive in a for-profit system.

So your supporting a plan that unavoidably kills people.

Again, heartless, disgusting, naivety. That is what you are preaching.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. But you have no interest in discussing the issues and resort to personal insults right away. If you are going to do that it's better to remain silent.
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If you think that poor people can get preventative care under Obamacare that's what's really naive. Good luck with that with your $7,000 annual deductible. If you just happen to be hospitalized one year, then sure, you can get preventative care covered for the rest of the year. If not, it's like you had no insurance at all. Except that you're already out the money for the premiums.
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Bernie stans--are you all still 100% in now that he's had a heart attack? Or does that give you pause

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I think it significantly hurts his electability, which is kind of an ouroboros/tautological situation

A heart attack obviously doesn't change the pros and cons of his stances
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red sox 777 posted...

You just go to the hospital! Get your treatment for free. Declare bankruptcy if you have to. That's what Trump did with his businesses.

Lol. The "demand treatment, just don't pay- the hospitals will be fine" for all plan. I'd like to see the presidential candidate that runs on that

It could work, it would just need to be officially funded. Without funding it's just ridiculous
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Bernie stans--are you all still 100% in now that he's had a heart attack? Or does that give you pause

Depends on his VP. If he picks Tulsi or maybe Warren I'm fine with that. Assuming the Senate looks safe for Republicans at least.
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https://news.yahoo.com/marriane-williamson-190502156.html
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Bernie stans--are you all still 100% in now that he's had a heart attack? Or does that give you pause

As long as he can still soundly string sentences together, there's no issue until he dies.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Bernie stans--are you all still 100% in now that he's had a heart attack? Or does that give you pause

His age already gave me enough pause to ditch him for Warren
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red sox 777 posted...

If you think that poor people can get preventative care under Obamacare that's what's really naive. Good luck with that with your $7,000 annual deductible. If you just happen to be hospitalized one year, then sure, you can get preventative care covered for the rest of the year. If not, it's like you had no insurance at all. Except that you're already out the money for the premiums.

Preventative services are literally free under obamacare. Free. No cost. 0 payment.

But you know, lets switch to your plan where the poor get no services and just die.

I did some research and apparently the type of procedure he had is common and patients often feel a lot better after it, so yeah 100% on Bernie assuming it tracks out like that.
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Tulsi is immune to any disease or bodily injury
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Leafeon13N posted...

red sox 777 posted...

If you think that poor people can get preventative care under Obamacare that's what's really naive. Good luck with that with your $7,000 annual deductible. If you just happen to be hospitalized one year, then sure, you can get preventative care covered for the rest of the year. If not, it's like you had no insurance at all. Except that you're already out the money for the premiums.

Preventative services are literally free under obamacare. Free. No cost. 0 payment.

But you know, lets switch to your plan where the poor get no services and just die.

What, like 1 doctor visit a year? I could pay for that out of pocket with the money not spent on the unaffordable Obamacare premiums and have enough left over to buy healthy food.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-security/trump-orders-substantial-cut-in-national-security-council-staff-bloomberg-idUSKBN1WK02X

I think hes hoping to randomly hurt the whistleblower
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red sox 777 posted...

What, like 1 doctor visit a year? I could pay for that out of pocket with the money not spent on the unaffordable Obamacare premiums and have enough left over to buy healthy food.

I dont think you understand at all how much is covered under preventative services.

Perhaps you should spend at least 5 minutes researching before spouting nonsense on a subject that peoples lives depend on.