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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 3:09:08 PM
#201:


If people dont want to consider Bernies heart attack as a liability thats fine, but I really hope nobody whos brushing it off was making anything of the bullshit Clinton pneumonia scandal in 2016!

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Grimlyn
10/05/19 3:13:56 PM
#202:


to be fair I doubt any of them did! I only really remember that coming up in the general election, not primaries

the real comparison is to Biden in the current campaign - and again being fair Bernie's always been quick to defend Biden's aging faculties

but hey Bernie's health is an issue worth considering for me as has Biden's been

also I should point out that "issue worth considering" doesn't mean you have to oppose Bernie, it's all a personal evaluation if health is a strong enough concern to weigh against the potential benefit of Sanders winning, and against what other options you have
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red13n
10/05/19 3:23:07 PM
#203:


One of the biggest issues with age is being able to lock down the presidency for 8 years. This is something both Biden and Bernie are going to have a difficult time doing due to their age.

There is a big advantage to being the incumbent. Its part of the reason why a Trump victory is still fairly likely.
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 3:27:33 PM
#204:


Bidens age is concerning to me, but theres not really a good center left alternative. Im pretty meh on Harris, Buttigieg has nowhere near enough experience, and by the time you get to Booker or Klobuchar youre at like 2% in the polls.

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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 3:30:39 PM
#205:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180559858699030529?s=21
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180560592119222273?s=21

...dare I hope that Mitt has told his Senate colleagues that hes planning to vote for removal??

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Dark Young Link
10/05/19 3:35:38 PM
#206:


LordoftheMorons posted...
If people dont want to consider Bernies heart attack as a liability thats fine, but I really hope nobody whos brushing it off was making anything of the bullshit Clinton pneumonia scandal in 2016!


I don't think anyone worth taking seriously was making a big deal out of that. Not that you won't have disingenuous trolls going "Bernie Bros were saying Hillary was going to die when she got sick!!!!".

I don't know Bernie's health, I'm not going to panic and be like "omg you have to pull out of the race!!!" over this. If he feels confident enough to continue, he'll continue having my support. Assuming no other health issues creep up, it should be fine so long as he doesn't try to run a marathon or anything.
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 3:36:38 PM
#207:


LordoftheMorons posted...
If people dont want to consider Bernies heart attack as a liability thats fine, but I really hope nobody whos brushing it off was making anything of the bullshit Clinton pneumonia scandal in 2016!


I think it makes Bernie a liability compared to the rest of the Dem field (including Biden!), but not against Trump
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 3:42:16 PM
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Grimlyn
10/05/19 3:42:54 PM
#209:


nobody is demanding Bernie pull out of the race, someone personally suggesting he "should" drop-out is little more than just that, their singular personal opinion on the subject

I think Biden shouldn't have joined the primaries in the first place since he could've just sat back and enjoyed fun uncle joe memes but hey it wasn't my call!

Dark Young Link posted...
it should be fine so long as he doesn't try to run a marathon or anything.

this is greatly overlooking the immense stress of running a lengthy presidential campaign, and subsequently being president

Obama before-after.jpg goes here
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ChaosTonyV4
10/05/19 3:43:59 PM
#210:


In Bernies case, he had a heart issue that his doctors say is resolved, and statistics show this is true for 95% of people who get stents.

For Biden, his brain is melting and he frequently says shit that makes no sense, and thats going to be a huge liability against Trump.

If you nominate someone with the same weakness as your opponent, its harder to use that talking point.
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red sox 777
10/05/19 3:44:32 PM
#211:


Leafeon13N posted...
red sox 777 posted...


What, like 1 doctor visit a year? I could pay for that out of pocket with the money not spent on the unaffordable Obamacare premiums and have enough left over to buy healthy food.


I dont think you understand at all how much is covered under preventative services.

Perhaps you should spend at least 5 minutes researching before spouting nonsense on a subject that peoples lives depend on.


I recommend you do that.
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Dark Young Link
10/05/19 3:48:08 PM
#212:


Grimlyn posted...
this is greatly overlooking the immense stress of running a lengthy presidential campaign, and subsequently being president

Obama before-after.jpg goes here


Yeah that's fair, it's a super high stress job he's gunning for. Especially since not only he'd have to try to clean up Trump's mess(The ones that aren't beyond repair anyway), but deal with the people who helped facilitate it in the first place. I'd love for him to get at least 4 years. If that can't happen, then at least have his ideas actually get used so whoever he backs if he drops out.
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GildedFool
10/05/19 3:48:52 PM
#213:


On average presidents who die of natural causes live longer than average according to actuarial studies.

[Insert source I don't have to hand here.]
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red sox 777
10/05/19 3:50:20 PM
#214:


Also, Nancy, that's why you should read the bill before passing it!
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 3:50:31 PM
#215:


Is attacking Republican Senators during an impeachment fight actually the literal worst thing Trump could possibly be doing from a strategic outlook
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red sox 777
10/05/19 3:51:46 PM
#216:


GildedFool posted...
On average presidents who die of natural causes live longer than average according to actuarial studies.

[Insert source I don't have to hand here.]


But people who die of natural causes live longer than average, so that's to be expected
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 3:52:57 PM
#217:


Jakyl25 posted...
Is attacking Republican Senators during an impeachment fight actually the literal worst thing Trump could possibly be doing from a strategic outlook
Probably not because most of them are cowards living in fear of Trump's base turning on them

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red sox 777
10/05/19 3:53:49 PM
#218:


Jakyl25 posted...
Is attacking Republican Senators during an impeachment fight actually the literal worst thing Trump could possibly be doing from a strategic outlook


No. Republicans respond well to bullying. Trump viciously attacked his primary opponents and they all fell in line. It showed his dominance.
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pyresword
10/05/19 3:54:30 PM
#219:


Trump also accusing the Democrats of inventing time travel

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562
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Grimlyn
10/05/19 3:55:36 PM
#220:


Dark Young Link posted...
Especially since not only he'd have to try to clean up Trump's mess(The ones that aren't beyond repair anyway), but deal with the people who helped facilitate it in the first place.

Even more depressing, don't forget the inevitable blue dog dems that'll be trying to shit on whoever the next Democratic president is to appease their constituents! Certainly was plenty of them in the Obama days.
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ChaosTonyV4
10/05/19 3:55:56 PM
#221:


Jakyl25 posted...
Is attacking Republican Senators during an impeachment fight actually the literal worst thing Trump could possibly be doing from a strategic outlook


Not just attacking Republican senators

But saying they should be impeached.

Thereby lowering the bar for impeachment, lmao.
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Dark Young Link
10/05/19 3:57:15 PM
#222:


It also puts Mitt in a no win scenario.

Does he continue to defy Trump, and get torn apart by the masses?

Or does he stand down, and look like a weakling?
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 4:02:43 PM
#223:


Mitt's in a uniquely strong position to actually vote to impeach because Utah Republicans are much more negative on Trump than average (unless that's changed recently). He's also not up for reelection again until 2024.

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Grimlyn
10/05/19 4:04:38 PM
#224:


by 2024 Republicans will have been desperately trying to disassociate themselves from Trump for years lmao
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GildedFool
10/05/19 4:11:21 PM
#225:


red sox 777 posted...
GildedFool posted...
On average presidents who die of natural causes live longer than average according to actuarial studies.

[Insert source I don't have to hand here.]


But people who die of natural causes live longer than average, so that's to be expected

Live longer than other men who die of natural causes.

Jesus wept, let's not pretend we don't know what we;re implying here.
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 4:21:39 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180564696979648513?s=21

So Crooked Hillary Clinton can delete and acid wash 33,000 emails AFTER getting a Subpoena from the United States Congress, but I cant make one totally appropriate telephone call to the President of Ukraine? Witch Hunt!


You know its SO not fair that we havent impeached Hillary
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red sox 777
10/05/19 4:24:13 PM
#227:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180564696979648513?s=21

So Crooked Hillary Clinton can delete and acid wash 33,000 emails AFTER getting a Subpoena from the United States Congress, but I cant make one totally appropriate telephone call to the President of Ukraine? Witch Hunt!


You know its SO not fair that we havent impeached Hillary


It's not too late to start now!
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xp1337
10/05/19 4:25:15 PM
#228:


i legitimately want someone in the press to ask him if he thinks they literally dumped acid on the email server or something
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 4:26:30 PM
#229:


xp1337 posted...
i legitimately want someone in the press to ask him if he thinks they literally dumped acid on the email server or something


I mean, he thinks it exists and its being hidden in the Ukraine, so probably
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red sox 777
10/05/19 4:30:21 PM
#230:


Jakyl25 posted...
xp1337 posted...
i legitimately want someone in the press to ask him if he thinks they literally dumped acid on the email server or something


I mean, he thinks it exists and its being hidden in the Ukraine, so probably


They wiped it with a magnetic cloth.
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Paratroopa1
10/05/19 4:31:55 PM
#231:


I think he might literally think the way you delete an email is printing it out and then destroying the printed copy

I can't tell if I'm making a joke or not
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Xeybozn
10/05/19 4:37:41 PM
#232:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180564696979648513?s=21

So Crooked Hillary Clinton can delete and acid wash 33,000 emails AFTER getting a Subpoena from the United States Congress, but I cant make one totally appropriate telephone call to the President of Ukraine? Witch Hunt!


You know its SO not fair that we havent impeached Hillary

Hey, it's perfectly legal to impeach officials even after they leave office. The GOP could have chosen to impeach Hillary back when they controlled the House, but they chose not to. And I'm pretty sure that by Trump logic that should mean Hillary was "completely exonerated".
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red sox 777
10/05/19 4:40:06 PM
#233:


Luckily President Trump doesn't use email so he can't possibly delete 33,000 emails. As we all know, the Constitution calls for impeachment for treason, bribery, and deleting emails.
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 4:43:46 PM
#234:


Trump definitely thinks there was literal acid involved

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Dark Young Link
10/05/19 4:50:30 PM
#235:


Odd how the President of the United States can't arrest Hillary for the crimes she clearly did.

/s
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red sox 777
10/05/19 5:03:16 PM
#236:


Dark Young Link posted...
Odd how the President of the United States can't arrest Hillary for the crimes she clearly did.

/s


He can ask a judge for a warrant or bring it to a grand jury, but he can't just arrest on his own.
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 5:07:11 PM
#237:


Thread about the conspiracy theory about the Russia investigation that Trump is having Bill Barr look into:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1180503384480202752?s=21

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Grimlyn
10/05/19 5:17:09 PM
#238:


Dark Young Link posted...
Odd how the President of the United States can't arrest Hillary for the crimes she clearly did.

/s

hey if Bill Barr was AG from the start who knows

as completely insane as it is to miss Jeff god damn Sessions
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 5:31:24 PM
#239:


https://twitter.com/dlippman/status/1180574518672265217?s=21

Oops

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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 5:54:00 PM
#240:


Lmao and now Trumps adding Perry made me do it to his list of contradictory excuses:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1180596761225613314?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 6:01:51 PM
#241:


https://twitter.com/jschmuck2/status/1180603489883262982?s=21

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ChaosTonyV4
10/05/19 6:10:50 PM
#242:


Today in cursed liberal opinions

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Who-should-run-against-Trump-How-about-Hillary-14494201.php
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Grimlyn
10/05/19 6:30:32 PM
#243:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Lmao and now Trumps adding Perry made me do it to his list of contradictory excuses:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1180596761225613314?s=21

gQtHQPJ
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 6:41:08 PM
#244:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Today in cursed liberal opinions

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Who-should-run-against-Trump-How-about-Hillary-14494201.php
I would love this if she could actually win...!

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Peace___Frog
10/05/19 6:42:28 PM
#245:


Grimlyn posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Lmao and now Trumps adding Perry made me do it to his list of contradictory excuses:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1180596761225613314?s=21

gQtHQPJ

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Jakyl25
10/05/19 6:43:16 PM
#246:


There seems to be an actual push for this somewhere.

Shes inexplicably moved up to 4th best odds to win the Dem primary, after Warren, Biden, and Pete
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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 6:45:19 PM
#247:


Perry: https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1180605064039161857

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ChaosTonyV4
10/05/19 6:57:56 PM
#248:


Jakyl25 posted...
There seems to be an actual push for this somewhere.

Shes inexplicably moved up to 4th best odds to win the Dem primary, after Warren, Biden, and Pete



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LordoftheMorons
10/05/19 7:00:42 PM
#249:


https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1180568153945972737

Big mistake from the DNC here

It's not "propping up" a primary candidate to defend any of them from baseless smears from their general election opponent.

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Suprak the Stud
10/05/19 7:04:25 PM
#250:


Jakyl25 posted...
There seems to be an actual push for this somewhere.

Shes inexplicably moved up to 4th best odds to win the Dem primary, after Warren, Biden, and Pete


PredictIt has her sixth behind those three, Yang, and Bernie.

Which is still way to high but after those five it doesn't matter anyway.

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