Board 8 > MLB and Baseball Topic #2: Jeff Wilpon is an Embarrass-met

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It's pretty stupid that the mets can put together like 70% of a very good good team, with just (basically all of) the bullpen being the only real issue , yet they're the 2nd worst team in the NL, meanwhile half the teams in the league didn't try (or claim to try) to build a winning team, and some of those teams are like 10 games up on the Mets

The Diamondbacks sold everything they had except for Zack Grienke. They are better than the Mets.
The Pirates clearly were not buying and just scrappling together a team. They're better than the mets.
Ditto, Rangers.

This isn't a coincidence or bad luck. It's about not knowing how to manage the assets you have. Even on a budget.
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I hate listening to Astros commentary team every time they have a dirty play.
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That didn't look like a dirty play to me. Maybe a reckless or careless play, but Marasnick's reaction both on and off the field suggests it wasn't dirty.
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I just saw it. I think he's just trying to cover his ass. It was dirty, imo.
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MOTHERFUCKING

PETE ALONSO

HOME RUN DERBY

CHAMPION!!!!!!

(also Vlad and Joc holy fuck that was a show)

Vlad may have had more homers (and rounds to do so) but Pete got the strategy and pacing game down perfect
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Bryce being heavily used in all the local ads and especially the banners in Cleveland is hysterical.
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alonso wouldve been MVP if the NL won/ gallo didnt hit that homer. Only player with 2 RBIs. oh well. Still a great night for him with the big hit, couple nice defensive plays and a stolen base.
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current leading candidates imo
NL
MVP - Bellinger > Yelich (sort of close)
CY - Ryu > Castillo (not that close)
ROY - Alonso > Soroka > Tatis (Hard to compare pitchers and hitters for this award)

AL
MVP - Trout (no one close)
CY - Verlander > Morton > Cole > Giolito (this is extremely tight imo)
ROY - Lowe (no one close, the AL rookies arent good)
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No mention of Scherzer for Cy? I think Ryu definitely has the lead, but Scherzer is Scherzer. He looks like he may have another outstanding year.
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Brian reynolds deserves some roty love. Although hes been struggling a bit as of late
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WiggumFan267 posted...

MVP - Trout (no one close)

The disrespect of DJLM is neverending with you
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The overrating by Yankees fans of DJ LeMehieu is more neverending. He's not close to Trout. He is not even in the same ballpark (pun). He'll possibly win the batting title. That's nice. That's not MVP-worthy alone.

Didn't you say you weren't serious before that he wasn't an MVP candiate? Are you still saying that or...?
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

No mention of Scherzer for Cy? I think Ryu definitely has the lead, but Scherzer is Scherzer. He looks like he may have another outstanding year.

His bad first month-ish put me off a bit, but if I went one deeper I'd have him 3rd. If he keeps having months like his last one, he'll win.
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WiggumFan267 posted...

The overrating by Yankees fans of DJ LeMehieu is more neverending. He's not close to Trout. He is not even in the same ballpark (pun). He'll possibly win the batting title. That's nice. That's not MVP-worthy alone.

Didn't you say you weren't serious before that he wasn't an MVP candiate? Are you still saying that or...?

Trout is MVP but to think that it's "not even close" is silly. DJ could bat .380 if he keeps up with his pace this past month.
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I have 4/6 pitchers you mentioned as Cy Young candidates on my fantasy team in what has surely been a historic year for me. I also have Scherzer!
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Trout leads him in every single category except batting average. His OPS is 200 points higher. He has DOUBLE the WAR. He has 28 homers to DJ's 12. 47 XBH to 35. he has more RBIs too if you care about that stat (I don't really but whatever floats your boats).

It's not close. DJ "could bat .380" just as well as Mike Trout could hit 58 homers and OPS 1.400, while still hitting over .300. It would take a significant fallout from Trout. I'd have Carlos Santana and Bregman ahead of LeMehieu also as of right now, but that's closer.

There are plenty of stats much more important than batting average.

So much for joking before lol
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LeMahieu is not close to Trout for MVP consideration and I say this as a Yankee fan
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Saving these posts for when DJLM becomes the first player to bat .400 in 80 years
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Wow, absolutely incredible.

On the first game back in Anaheim since Skaggs passed, where his mom threw out the first pitch, and all the Angels were wearing #45 Skaggs jerseys, the Angels threw a (combined) no-hitter. Completely unbelievable.

They all laid down their Skaggs #45 jerseys on the mound after the game as a final good-bye. Heartbreaking.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_VNb7LXsAED_ER.jpg
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omg and it was his birthday the next day (technically right now on the east coast)
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Can't help but think of when the Marlins celebrated Jose Fernandez's life in a similar way, and Dee Gordon, of all people, hit that home run.
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https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1149913306167238658
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https://twitter.com/statsbystats/status/1149926435752173568?s=21

https://twitter.com/daniel_jac9/status/1149936673645404160?s=21

It doesnt end there. So many interesting stats about that game/Tyler.
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Wheeler to the DL with what sounds like 'dead arm'.

Awfully convenient timing considering he was the only real trade chip they had worth trading. This kind of sounds like the Wilpons faked an injury on purpose for him because they knew healthy they were gonna get a mostly cash/bad prospect return so now if they do wind up trading him they can justify that behavior. I'm like 99% sure this is their line of thinking, without even caring that an injury hurts his trade value and the value they'd get back. Could also be because they don't want him to have any more implosions (again, not thinking).

The timing is just too perfect to be anything other than fake. There was no prior indication he had any other injury and he's just going on with fatigue, not a real injury.

Fuck the Wilpons. Sell the team.
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I did it
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Also, maybe making him throw like 120 pitches his last start was a bad idea?
He's thrown the 6th most pitches in baseball, for a guy who has far from a slate of clean arm health. He averages 104 pitches per start, which is 4th in MLB.

This fucking org literally does everything as wrong as fucking possible. Intentional or otherwise. Ownership incompetency like none other. MAYBE DON'T FUCKING FORCE YOUR TRADE CHIP TO WEAR OUT HIS ARM BEFORE THE ALL-STAR BREAK

fucking hell. I don't really know if it was intentional or not, but I'm sure they're happy they have a built in excuse now for whatever cash and awful prospect they'll now get for him, when before it was just gonna be the same awful prospect but with more cash- the team doesn't see the cash either way
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Can't believe Travis d'Arnaud is a Yankee killer.
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Giants score 19 today.

They couldn't pace those out a bit maybe?
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Can't believe Travis d'Arnaud is a Yankee killer.

Fucking kill me
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I saw him at Citi Field a couple months ago in what I believe was his last game as a Met and he looked beyond pathetic at the plate. Good for him that he's now on a better team and playing much better. But the Yankees shouldn't be letting him beat them.
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ONLY THE METS BABY

16 inning game. tied 1-1 all the way. Alonso go ahead Homer in the top of the 16th. Mets are stuck with their last pitcher though who pitched 2 innings yesterday and had no other choice and of course he gives up like 3 straight doubles and the mets lose. Because ONLY THE METS

its so comical
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https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1151965709095854085?s=19

In case you haven't seen it yet
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WiggumFan267 posted...

ONLY THE METS BABY

16 inning game. tied 1-1 all the way. Alonso go ahead Homer in the top of the 16th. Mets are stuck with their last pitcher though who pitched 2 innings yesterday and had no other choice and of course he gives up like 3 straight doubles and the mets lose. Because ONLY THE METS

its so comical

But the Giants winning streak continues! They are 7-1 since the break and have finally pulled out of last place in their division
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meanwhile the Rangers are losers of 4 straight, and have been outscored 40-10 in their last 3 (47-16 across the entire losing streak) and there are rumors that Minor might be traded

Now I obviously wasn't the biggest fan of Minor in the spring based on last year's performance, but the dude has been fucking fantastic this year and if the Rangers want to compete next year (Spoilers: They do. New stadium) he's going to be a big part of it.

The Orioles have lost the worst record honors to the Tigers.

A 7-32 record since the start of June will do that.
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Fucking savages in the box
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Reg posted...

Now I obviously wasn't the biggest fan of Minor in the spring based on last year's performance, but the dude has been fucking fantastic this year and if the Rangers want to compete next year (Spoilers: They do. New stadium) he's going to be a big part of it.

if the Rangers don't sell high on him, they're almost as bad as the Wilpons are for not trading Wheeler when he was at a high after the 2nd half of last year. Dude is 31. He'll be in decline. You HAVE to trade him, competing or not.
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@WiggumFan267
We going extras again
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Nevermind, that was fast
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WiggumFan267 posted...

ONLY THE METS BABY

LMFAO LITERALLY AGAIN THIS FUCKING TEAM

deGrom pitches a fucking gem like he always does, and of course every time he pitches a gem the mets don't score for him. LITERALLY EVERY TIME, ITS HILARIOUS.

So it's 0-0 going into bottom 10th and with a giant on 1st and 2 outs, and the easiest fly ball ever hit to shallow left, Dom "not a LF" Smith jogging into it, Rosario the SS charging back, bam, miscommunication and it basically drops in between them as smith tries to catch it at his ankles but it's too late. Run scores, game over.

ONNNNNNNNNNNLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY

THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

METSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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This is not bad luck. This is organizational. This is the Wilpons fault.

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1152446018320945152

All spring, the Mets declined to use Dominic Smith in left field, even after Smith came to them asking for reps at that position. They said no.

Flash forward four months, and Smith is their regular left fielder. It's an unfair ask to expect him to be perfect.

THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO RUN A TEAM.

no team on earth, past, present, or future ever has been or will be this embarrassing, or this badly run.

Take solace, literally everyone.
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Well it brought my team back to .500 after it's extended trip below so you won't hear me complaining.
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Esuriat posted...

The Orioles have lost the worst record honors to the Tigers.

A 7-32 record since the start of June will do that.

oh ya go my tigerz get that #1 pick
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It has not been fun since the All-Star break, but at least we got a win.
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3/4 games in the series the mets lose via walkoff.

only the mets.

this is a team that was claiming "win now" in the offseason. theres about 6 teams ahead of them that were not trying to win in the NL, based on the offseason.
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Let's make it even more gross.

The Giants beat the Mets 3/4 games, with all wins coming in extra inning games.

The Mets outscored the Giants 15 runs to 11.

Aww yeah back to .500 again.
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tigers blow

go angels
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The Brewers inability/refusal to spend money on pitching has officially derailed this season now that Woodruff is out for a month.
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The worst part of everything is the Mets are fucked and have no path to contention the next 3 years because of all the backloaded contracts they have. LIke what's the fucking point of backloading all your contracts if , when you're in the light portion of thecontract, you're not going to fucking spend to try to build a winning team? And also taking on Cano's hole contract for no reason on top of it? It's like the fucking team is run by monkeys. Backloading everything + trading for Cano is going to fuck them for a long time. There is no room to add any $ next year, because payroll is going ot be way higher before they even add any FAs, and barely any is coming off the books.

They refused to spend any additional money this year and didn't increase payroll at all in a "light-loaded" contract year, so why would they next year when everyone's salary goes way up?

This is so fucking unacceptable when your team has had 2 winning seasons in 11 years.

This is with them having a JD Martinez (alonso) and Jose Altuve (Jeff McNeil) for essentially 'free' mind you. They have that and it's so sad they have no absolutely no path to contention, no chance of success at all over the next 2-3 years because of how fucking incompetently they made these current contracts, the trade for Cano, and their refusal to add $ to the team when they were NOT all backloaded contracts at one time.

Mind you they are going to need to add TWO starting pitchers and a shit ton of relievers. How are they going to do this? They can't. and as such they won't be contenders for a long time. At least 3 more years of failure. When they've had TWO in the last 11. Fuck the wilpons.

this is what i mean when i say the mets have it shit because they constantly have no hope for the future
every year, theres no path to contention. Because of how they do contracts, and their terrible signings and trades that are only made to "look good". That's the only reason they traded for Cano. So it would "make a splash" and "look good" and "make the back pages"

And when they finally get a light year, they dont take advantage of it and just sit on their hands while the team suffers
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https://twitter.com/DoubledaysArmy/status/1153339534442205186

Here's the gut punch for the 2020 Mets. deGrom, Lowrie and Familia are making a combined $24.6M this year (come get us). The same trio makes $48.6M next year.

This team has no path to contention in 2020. None. Zero. Owners and Brodie nuked this organization in one month.

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