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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:24:32 PM
#252:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I just do not know how D&D fucked this all up so badly

Blame GRRM equally at this point
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:24:55 PM
#253:


Inviso posted...
Wait, what problem are people having NOW? That was great.

Hahaha what
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Pokewars
05/12/19 10:25:14 PM
#254:


Lmao not even completing Jaime's arc in the proper fashion.
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TotallyNotMI
05/12/19 10:26:17 PM
#255:


GRRM has expressed dislike for the show in later seasons.

I have hopes that if the books ever do get published the endings will be wildly different
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:26:24 PM
#256:


I really hope after the fanboy hype wears down people will finally come to a consensus that this show is, at best, a total mess in its conclusion.

I'll give it a few years to get the Lost/Star Wars prequels treatment.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:27:13 PM
#257:


TotallyNotMI posted...
GRRM has expressed dislike for the show in later seasons.

I have hopes that if the books ever do get published the endings will be wildly different

I mean if the core of each character's end is retained, then I still expect utter shit
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v_charon
05/12/19 10:28:00 PM
#258:


There are literal hoards of people unhappy with the way this show is ending. It's a shame to see characters that were once written so greatly end on such poor notes. And a show that once seemed to have you begging for more just having you begging for it to end already.
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Suprak the Stud
05/12/19 10:28:26 PM
#259:


Ok well.

I understand why people were so mad now.
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GenesisSaga
05/12/19 10:32:51 PM
#260:


I love this show, but man I cannot defend the writing anymore. Not since the 3rd episode of this season to be honest, but I still had hope they could turn things around before the end.

Tyrion and Jaime have just made too many fatally dumb decisions. Jon and Grey Worm are ridiculously loyal to someone who was clearly showing signs of being out of her mind (before she massacred a city of innocents and proved it), and nearly everyone was acting completely out of character.

About the only ones who have stayed true to themselves and the character they were at the beginning of the story are Sandor Clegane and Varys. I guess that's why they had to die: because they don't change dramatically enough like everyone else around them to warrant an evolution to their arcs. Although I do actually like the way Sandor's arc ended with Arya, what came after kind of cheapened it. I'm mad I was ever hyped for Clegane Bowl dammit.

Also I hate that the Previously on Game of Thrones spoiled the heelturn before it could even come to fruition (though let's be honest I along with many others had already guessed Mad Queen Daenerys) like it needed to be spoonfed to a bunch of brain dead animals. Speaking of brain dead animals, gotta love how half of Cersei's entire army sat there as Drogon solo'd King's landing. No seriously. 25% attempted to fight back. 25% attempted to flee. All the rest just kind of sat there in awe like they had never seen a fucking dragon as it burned their dragon-busting weapons and comrades alive. Wow!
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GenesisSaga
05/12/19 10:34:29 PM
#261:


Oh and Davos I guess. He never really changes. He'll probably die next episode though, don't worry.
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foolm0r0n
05/12/19 10:35:16 PM
#262:


Halfway through and this episode is pretty good. Mostly because all the bullshit was delivered in the last episode. Why is Drogon invincible to the scorpions? Eh who cares. Arya and Jaime going on some dumbass adventure? I guess that's fun.

But the silent moments are really cool. They really achieved a good tone with the fight.
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KamikazePotato
05/12/19 10:35:43 PM
#263:


I've been hoping for Mad Queen Dany but that was soooo forced. Why did she burn the entire city instead of just Cersei???

If you can get past that (very big) sticking point, the episode itself was extremely well-done.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:36:39 PM
#264:


Everyone vs the night king? Whoops he's dead now so let's forget about the confrontation established in the first scene ever.

Moving on to everyone vs cersei? Okay cool, maybe we can subvert expectations and say this was REALLY what the "game" was about all along and we see a confrontation that was underneath it all from the start--o wait let's let a building fall on her.

So now it's Jon/the Starks vs Dany. A confrontation that will essentially begin and end in a single episode.

Wow. Just fucking wow. I couldn't fuck this story up more if I tried.
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XIII_rocks
05/12/19 10:36:40 PM
#265:


That was a pretty satisfying episode of television

I'd say the massacre/scenes of general mayhem and destruction went on a bit too long (I got the point already, like jeez) and Arya 100% should be dead. Everything else I found thrilling. I loved the tension before the attack.

Also there was a certain catharsis to seeing the Red Keep/Lannisters/Cersei get destroyed to fuck, even though it was also brutal and unfair, and that caused a conflict even within me, so it must be succeeding on some level.
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xp1337
05/12/19 10:38:03 PM
#266:


Hahahaha.

Jaime taking a run at Stannis for most screwed by the show lmao.

arya running the wrong way at the end though. looked like she was heading out of KL, i need her to have the mob psycho counter going up as she looked at all the death and destruction, hit 100% when she saw the mom and daughter she was trying to help, and just make a line for daenerys and drogon.

Spectacle was okay I suppose. Though I feel like there were some pretty weird errors in background shots of what was going on pre-battle. Jon a dummy for being on the front lines, might have actually been able to stop a good chunk of the army from going into pillage mode if he was further back in some kind of command area.

Also wtf was Tyrion's plan really just to have Davos drop a boat there for Jaime/Cersei and leave? Thought they'd need Davos there too to actually execute the escape and kept wondering if he was going to bail/sneak off when he started showing up with Jon and co. as things started.

lmao euron what a silly end for a silly character

Qyburn status updates were gold though. Could have watched a lot more of that lol.

cleganebowl underwhelming but the hype was too high so it could never meet that
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foolm0r0n
05/12/19 10:38:41 PM
#267:


Oh wait that was dumb
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:39:05 PM
#268:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Uhh so dany can just inexplicably dodge the arrows now...?

Again. There was ZERO adjustment between the last episode and this one. She even flew in headfirst the same exact fucking way.

Nothing makes sense.
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KamikazePotato
05/12/19 10:39:43 PM
#269:


Cleganebowl was the best part of the episode. Legitimately don't know how they could have done it better.

Not a super big fan of what they did with Jaime.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:41:45 PM
#270:


KamikazePotato posted...
Cleganebowl was the best part of the episode. Legitimately don't know how they could have done it better.

If you thought Gregor being a goo filled Terminator zombie was cool then I don't know what to say man.
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neonreaper
05/12/19 10:42:01 PM
#271:


That was awesome
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tyder21
05/12/19 10:42:27 PM
#272:


Awful. I'm speechless.
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xp1337
05/12/19 10:43:10 PM
#273:


KamikazePotato posted...
Why did she burn the entire city instead of just Cersei???

Going full "rule by fear." If she just accepted the surrender and torched Cersei she maintains the status quo of support for Jon growing in the background. Also I think she finally realized that she was never going to be emotionally satisfied with that kind of outcome and just released all her pent up rage and sorrow that's been building over her entire life around King's Landing, her heritage, and recent events.

I was honestly surprised that neither she (with Drogon) or Cersei (with Wildfire) didn't just explode the bells. It's the kind of move I saw both doing but neither did!

Also wouldn't be 100% shocked if her Jon complex has reached such a point in her mad queen state that she would reject the surrender on principle of it being Jon's idea.
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Nrrr
05/12/19 10:44:04 PM
#274:


Jaime definitely is different than his book iteration in the show, but the writing of him in this episode was at least tonally consistent with his show portrayal so far. Stannis, on the other hand, gets written inconsistently even within the show. If we are talking about getting screwed in a sense of like "who got a shitty adaption" then Jaime still isn't even second, that is fucking Euron, what a joke his entire character was.
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xp1337
05/12/19 10:44:38 PM
#275:


Gregor was obviously a terminator zombie four seasons ago lmao.

I say it was underwhelming because like... the hype set the bar into outer space. It was never attainable. >_> Not saying it was bad!
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scarletspeed7
05/12/19 10:45:06 PM
#276:


Jaime is a junkie superhero in the show. The books take him in a totally different direction with personality. But these are the things we do for budgets.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:45:25 PM
#277:


xp1337 posted...
Gregor was obviously a terminator zombie four seasons ago lmao.

He wasn't getting stabbed through a goo skull and walking around with a dagger in his head though
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XIII_rocks
05/12/19 10:46:05 PM
#278:


Jaime's arc was good in a different way to how I expected. He couldn't escape the anchor on his life that is Cersei.
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KamikazePotato
05/12/19 10:47:27 PM
#279:


Jon telling people to stop fighting in between killing people is the most Jon thing on the show so far.

"COME ON GUYS" *stab* "WHY ARE WE DOING THIS" *slice*
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:47:31 PM
#280:


xp1337 posted...
Why did she burn the entire city instead of just Cersei???

Why did she even need an army? They apparently did absolutely nothing of tactical importance there.
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colliding
05/12/19 10:49:46 PM
#281:


At this point I have to conclude that the season's biggest problem is the lack of episodes

this one desperately needed an entire episode devoted to the moments directly after Missandei's death, fallout, varys scheming, travel time for jaime, sandor, and arya, more cersei/euron screentime and tactics for the assault on king's landing. as it is, a crapton of REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF happens offscreen.

everything post-dany heel turn is good. if you haven't known the whole time that dany was evil I don't know what to tell you.
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xp1337
05/12/19 10:49:50 PM
#282:


KamikazePotato posted...
Jon telling people to stop fighting in between killing people is the most Jon thing on the show so far.

"COME ON GUYS" *stab* "WHY ARE WE DOING THIS" *slice*

someone should add in a kill streak commentator for that scene

"COME ON GUYS" *stab*
"INCREDIBLE!"
"WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?" *slice*
"GODLIKE!"
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XIII_rocks
05/12/19 10:50:09 PM
#283:


KamikazePotato posted...
Jon telling people to stop fighting in between killing people is the most Jon thing on the show so far.

"COME ON GUYS" *stab* "WHY ARE WE DOING THIS" *slice*


Pretty clearly self-defence
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:50:18 PM
#284:


Also can you really go from cersei being a ruthless, cold-hearted, confident boss bitch in the PREVIOUS EPISODE to her being a scared, sympathetic, overpowered tragic figure in the very next one? What the absolute fuck were they thinking?
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Nanahara715
05/12/19 10:51:17 PM
#285:


I've seen some images on the horse that Arya rode, and there was a scene right after Drogon was roasting the Golden Company where the camera panned to a dead horse behind flames, and it looks like it's the same horse.

Theory that R'hllor brought the horse back so that it could carry Arya out.

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neonreaper
05/12/19 10:51:20 PM
#286:


That is like her fatal flaw isnt it tho
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xp1337
05/12/19 10:52:02 PM
#287:


Nanahara715 posted...

Theory that R'hllor brought the horse back so that it could carry Arya out.

please no
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Nanahara715
05/12/19 10:52:40 PM
#288:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Also can you really go from cersei being a ruthless, cold-hearted, confident boss bitch in the PREVIOUS EPISODE to her being a scared, sympathetic, overpowered tragic figure in the very next one? What the absolute fuck were they thinking?


I mean, a lot changes when you think you have the upper hand to all of a sudden getting your ass kicked.
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/12/19 10:52:44 PM
#289:


honestly I like that Dany's side just stomped over Cersei's side, because it's like yea they have a dragon what the fuck do you think is gonna happen

The only problem with that is it makes the first encounter, when after the one dragon got killed and she ran away, look REALLY fuckin dumb. Missandei could have survived!
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foolm0r0n
05/12/19 10:54:42 PM
#290:


lmao this is sooooo dumb

They literally did the foot pull away from the sword gag
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:55:41 PM
#291:


foolm0r0n posted...
lmao this is sooooo dumb

They literally did the foot pull away from the sword gag

What does that mean
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:57:11 PM
#292:


Nanahara715 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Also can you really go from cersei being a ruthless, cold-hearted, confident boss bitch in the PREVIOUS EPISODE to her being a scared, sympathetic, overpowered tragic figure in the very next one? What the absolute fuck were they thinking?


I mean, a lot changes when you think you have the upper hand to all of a sudden getting your ass kicked.

Except nothing changed between her having the upper hand and her not. The scorpions grounded the dragons. And then they... didn't. Out of absolutely no where for no reason.
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colliding
05/12/19 10:57:30 PM
#293:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
honestly I like that Dany's side just stomped over Cersei's side, because it's like yea they have a dragon what the fuck do you think is gonna happen

The only problem with that is it makes the first encounter, when after the one dragon got killed and she ran away, look REALLY fuckin dumb. Missandei could have survived!


I mean yes, this is definitely an issue in that it makes no sense. in the last episode ships (behind islands) are able to hit three shots in a row against an unsuspecting dragon and in this episode they're completely unprepared... for some reason.
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/19 10:57:31 PM
#294:


Imagine stanning Daenarys for 8 seasons, fighting with people on Twitter and elsewhere every week to defend her

and then watching that and having to admit you were wrong.
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v_charon
05/12/19 10:58:15 PM
#295:


colliding posted...
for some reason.


This is pretty much the theme for Season 8.
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Inviso
05/12/19 10:58:56 PM
#297:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Imagine stanning Daenarys for 8 seasons, fighting with people on Twitter and elsewhere every week to defend her

and then watching that and having to admit you were wrong.


Why would that episode be bad for people stanning Dany? Mad Queen Dany is awesome.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 10:59:23 PM
#298:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Imagine stanning Daenarys for 8 seasons, fighting with people on Twitter and elsewhere every week to defend her

and then watching that and having to admit you were wrong.

Is this really your main takeaway
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/19 10:59:56 PM
#299:


*hates Cersei for being murderous and evil*

*Watches Dany slaughter innocent people with dragonfire*

YAAAS QUEEN SLAYYYY

lmao
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/19 11:00:13 PM
#300:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Is this really your main takeaway


the episode was awful
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GANON1025
05/12/19 11:00:33 PM
#301:


Big Oof

I guess, at least it was better than last episode????
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