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paulg235
10/31/18 8:10:23 PM
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A collection of close matches involving Revolver Ocelot;
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2097-20xx-division-round-1-revolver-ocelot-vs-pac-man
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2868-division-2-round-1-cloud-jill-zolom-ocelot
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3275-division-8-round-1-heavy-jill-kratos-ocelot
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3732-hyrule-division-round-1-red-vs-ocelot
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7292-division-7-round-1-dedede-vs-ocelot

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~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
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~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
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ZeldaTPLink
10/31/18 8:46:51 PM
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The midcard is now every character ever created by Nintendo.

The fodder is every character not created by Nintendo.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 8:47:42 PM
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To go from having a close match with Red to King fucking Dedede is quite the turnabout.
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NowItsAngeTime
10/31/18 8:48:37 PM
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I wouldn't be surprsied if King Dedede is close to Meta Knights strength now (who was probably roughly equal to Ocelots strength)
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 8:50:20 PM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
I wouldn't be surprsied if King Dedede is close to Meta Knights strength now (who was probably roughly equal to Ocelots strength)

I would have probably bit on Meta Knight > Ocelot had this been the match. Damn the NRT.
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NowItsAngeTime
10/31/18 8:53:04 PM
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I wouldn't be surprsied if King Dedede is close to Meta Knights strength now (who was probably roughly equal to Ocelots strength)

I would have probably bit on Meta Knight > Ocelot had this been the match. Damn the NRT.


Same tbh
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LusterSoldier
10/31/18 9:02:36 PM
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The other topic is close to filling up completely, so I'll post this in the new topic instead.

Division 7, Round 1

Luigi vs. Miles Edgeworth
Registered Vote Result:
Luigi - 7295 (77.15%)
Miles Edgeworth - 2161 (22.85%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Luigi - 7807 (78.08%)
Miles Edgeworth - 2192 (21.92%)

Frog vs. Monokuma
Registered Vote Result:
Frog - 7214 (76.28%)
Monokuma - 2243 (23.72%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Frog - 7656 (76.57%)
Monokuma - 2343 (23.43%)

Master Chief vs. Goro Majima
Registered Vote Result:
Master Chief - 6597 (69.74%)
Goro Majima - 2862 (30.26%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Master Chief - 6760 (67.61%)
Goro Majima - 3239 (32.39%)

Nathan Drake vs. Miles 'Tails' Prower
Registered Vote Result:
Nathan Drake - 4038 (42.68%)
Miles 'Tails' Prower - 5422 (57.32%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Nathan Drake - 4438 (44.38%)
Miles 'Tails' Prower - 5561 (55.62%)

Despite the Ace Attorney board vote being very legendary, it doesn't really translate into a huge split between registered and anonymous users. Edgeworth is only doing about 1% better among registered users.

Extra info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
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ffmasterjose
10/31/18 9:11:02 PM
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Awww yeah Leaderboard get!

Gonna be a one day stint unless Revolver Ocelot gets off his ass.

So yeah its gonna be a one day stint.
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MoogleKupo141
10/31/18 9:13:52 PM
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is Dedede's picture the best of the contest? He fills the frame so nicely and he looks so happy.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 9:16:24 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
is Dedede's picture the best of the contest? He fills the frame so nicely and he looks so happy.

Isabelle has a really good picture as well, though she's not in a position to benefit. Master Hand looked really good in his too.
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Lopen
10/31/18 9:17:52 PM
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Dedede vs Ocelot might be the most lopsided pic of the entire contest, even if Dedede's individually isn't the best. I actually voted Dedede despite normally being a guy who'd vote Ocelot here.

I mean I didn't vote just for the picture I like Dedede but yeah.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 9:19:58 PM
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Velvet vs James was a pretty lopsided one too.
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10/31/18 9:27:42 PM
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DoctorJimmy133
10/31/18 9:43:29 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Smash renders are incredible

Especially because we're not sick of them yet
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snake_5036
10/31/18 9:45:09 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Smash renders are incredible

the snake render made my jaw drop when it was released after the "everyone is here!" trailer
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Haste_2
10/31/18 9:53:09 PM
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Wow, the registered voters favored Edgeworth over Luigi! ^5 registered voters.

Wow, Ocelot is hanging in there.

Tifa, of course, is not showing the slightest sign of weakness. Argh!

Mewtwo... it's hard to say about him. He definitely looks better than Charizard, because I wouldn't expect Terra to get 60% on even a weakened GlaDOS. I wouldn't say it's impossible for Mewtwo to be at Pikachu's level if he stays at about 64%. Even a greatly weakened GlaDOS could be stronger than Scorpion.
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TheCodeisBosco
10/31/18 9:53:34 PM
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TFW you took DeDeDe as a flagrant fanboy pick and it's actually poised to fucking happen.

Also, I'm really wishing I took Mega Man > Crono and Cloud in the loser's bracket.
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Advokaiser
10/31/18 9:59:18 PM
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TheCodeisBosco posted...
Also, I'm really wishing I took Mega Man > Crono and Cloud in the loser's bracket.


Crono still remains a mystery. I'm actually very curious to see his true power.
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spooky96
10/31/18 10:02:04 PM
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Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.
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DoctorJimmy133
10/31/18 10:07:29 PM
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spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013
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spooky96
10/31/18 10:09:37 PM
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DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013

Yeah but seeing how horribly western characters have flopped...this is embarrassing.
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pronouncemyname
10/31/18 10:11:34 PM
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Big Ocelot cut.
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DoctorJimmy133
10/31/18 10:14:07 PM
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spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013

Yeah but seeing how horribly western characters have flopped...this is embarrassing.

GlaDOS would have to be straight up fodder this to reflect badly on Mewtwo and I doubt that's the case.
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:14:32 PM
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LusterSoldier
10/31/18 10:16:16 PM
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Advokaiser posted...
Crono still remains a mystery. I'm actually very curious to see his true power.


Crono is also going to have just one match before the Crono/Cloud showdown to evaluate his strength. I think if Crono can go above 60% on Bowser/Kirby/Charizard, then he should be the favorite to beat Cloud.
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spooky96
10/31/18 10:17:39 PM
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DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013

Yeah but seeing how horribly western characters have flopped...this is embarrassing.

GlaDOS would have to be straight up fodder this to reflect badly on Mewtwo and I doubt that's the case.

It totally is, just look at how badly Tifa and MMX beating their opponents. Mewtwo should have gotten at least 70% here to have any sort of hope against Tifa,
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:18:10 PM
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if Mewtwo were not a fraud he'd be tripling GlaDOS like Bowser tripled Gordon

take it from me this is almost exactly what I predicted Mewtwo would get
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im317
10/31/18 10:18:34 PM
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i have Luigi>X>Tifa>Mewtwo and the only possible change i would make is X>Luigi
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DoctorJimmy133
10/31/18 10:22:20 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
if Mewtwo were not a fraud he'd be tripling GlaDOS like Bowser tripled Gordon

take it from me this is almost exactly what I predicted Mewtwo would get

Well I took Mewtwo to get 90+% on everyone he faced except for 63% on GlaDOS so there
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LordoftheMorons
10/31/18 10:23:39 PM
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spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013

Yeah but seeing how horribly western characters have flopped...this is embarrassing.

GlaDOS would have to be straight up fodder this to reflect badly on Mewtwo and I doubt that's the case.

It totally is, just look at how badly Tifa and MMX beating their opponents. Mewtwo should have gotten at least 70% here to have any sort of hope against Tifa,

...would you take Geno over GlaDOS?
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:24:40 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
...would you take Geno over GlaDOS?


I mean only one of those characters is rumored to be in Smash
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LusterSoldier
10/31/18 10:25:18 PM
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I don't think Geno has even increased in strength since the Squall/Geno match in 2005 where Squall fell just slightly short of 75%. Tifa is only slightly below Squall in strength and the trends for this match should mean that Tifa likely finishes close to 74%.

It's a bit surprising that Geno seems to be the same guy that faced Squall in 2005 given that SMRPG has been released on Virtual Console for both Wii and Wii U, which should definitely have improved the game's playrate as the original SNES game wasn't exactly the easiest game to obtain back then.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 10:25:33 PM
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I would sacrifice Mewtwo over Tifa so hard for Geno to become a capable midcarder like GLaDOS still might just be.
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:26:20 PM
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wow what a shocking realization that ports of old games have virtually no effect since they don't really reach a new audience and are largely purchased by people who are already fans
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Team Rocket Elite
10/31/18 10:27:46 PM
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Maybe Tifa is stronger than Squall and this is hiding the Geno boost.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 10:28:15 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
wow what a shocking realization that ports of old games have virtually no effect since they don't really reach a new audience and are largely purchased by people who are already fans

Especially the Wii and Wii U, in the later stages of their console's life span. Get a remake going if you want some real gains.
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:30:37 PM
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I have zero desire to read a single thing Tsunami ever says again thanks to NCAA contests.

You're intentionally obtuse and often unbearable these days (I hoped contest season would make you scale that back somewhat but alas) but I can skim past what you post easily enough.
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LusterSoldier
10/31/18 10:33:45 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
wow what a shocking realization that ports of old games have virtually no effect since they don't really reach a new audience and are largely purchased by people who are already fans


I'd say that SMRPG might be one of the rare exceptions given the original SNES game wasn't really the easiest game to obtain back then. Like, those who had played the Paper Mario games but not SMRPG might be more tempted to buy the port on Wii or Wii U to see what the game was like.

Even if the re-release on Wii and Wii U was mainly being purchased by those who had already played the game before, it can still help out in other ways like jumpstarting those feelings of nostalgia who are just now replaying the game after having not played it since many years earlier.
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:34:21 PM
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if you wanted to play SMRPG you probably emulated it

(don't ban me TRE)
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KamikazePotato
10/31/18 10:36:34 PM
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I wouldn't take Geno over GlaDOS but GlaDOS is going to finish a lot higher than Geno is, so...
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The Owner of FF9
10/31/18 10:41:12 PM
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If Luigi beats Tifa, does he beat Sephiroth???
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:43:49 PM
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The Owner of FF9 posted...
If Luigi beats Tifa, does he beat Sephiroth???


That's what I've got!

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The Owner of FF9
10/31/18 10:45:56 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...
If Luigi beats Tifa, does he beat Sephiroth???


That's what I've got!

Although he could beat Tifa and still lose to Seph.

OMG, how do you figure?! That's what I picked, but I've been kicking myself about it since the contest started. I only picked Sephy out of Noble Nine bias. It would seem to me that if Luigi can best Tifa, the FFVII deboost is that strong and would apply to Sephy as well.
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LeonhartFour
10/31/18 10:49:44 PM
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Well, if Luigi barely edges out Tifa, he probably loses to Sephiroth. Sephy's fallen pretty far, but the idea that he's fallen so far that he's weaker than Tifa now seems hard to reconcile.

It'd be awesome if true, but still!
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The Owner of FF9
10/31/18 10:51:19 PM
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*crosses all fingers and toes*

of course, Tifa has to make it past X >_<
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swirIdude
10/31/18 10:51:50 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Well, if Luigi barely edges out Tifa, he probably loses to Sephiroth. Sephy's fallen pretty far, but the idea that he's fallen so far that he's weaker than Tifa now seems hard to reconcile.

It'd be awesome if true, but still!


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spooky96
10/31/18 10:52:12 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Mewtwo looks so bad, he's absolutely fucked against Tifa.

He's currently doing exactly as well on GlaDOS as Snake did in 2013

Yeah but seeing how horribly western characters have flopped...this is embarrassing.

GlaDOS would have to be straight up fodder this to reflect badly on Mewtwo and I doubt that's the case.

It totally is, just look at how badly Tifa and MMX beating their opponents. Mewtwo should have gotten at least 70% here to have any sort of hope against Tifa,

...would you take Geno over GlaDOS?

Why not. And even if Geno loses it won't be by much.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/31/18 10:53:05 PM
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The Owner of FF9 posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...
If Luigi beats Tifa, does he beat Sephiroth???


That's what I've got!

Although he could beat Tifa and still lose to Seph.

OMG, how do you figure?! That's what I picked, but I've been kicking myself about it since the contest started. I only picked Sephy out of Noble Nine bias. It would seem to me that if Luigi can best Tifa, the FFVII deboost is that strong and would apply to Sephy as well.

Sephiroth has a bit of a history of taking Nintendo characters on a roll and smacking them down to earth. He did to Mario in 2005, Mizno in 2010, and Kirby in 2013. Mewtwo is the exception, but who knows what happens if GameFAQs doesn't sell him out in favor of Pokefear to fight the Draven menace. And then there's the x-factor of being the Noble Niner not excluded here. He could still be capable of beating anyone in the main bracket.
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