Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 21: A far fetched return.

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Kenri
11/13/18 10:34:24 AM
#201:


That legitimately might have been me LMAO, if you run Aversa she throws me off so fuckin' much.
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MrSmartGuy
11/13/18 12:52:54 PM
#202:


This is what I did with my Defense.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/127676496079880192/511959871327830017/Screenshot_2018-11-13-11-49-41.png

If you don't have a Dancer or multiple units able to pass the Lightning Trap, it's impossible to engage first from the left after destroying the Healing Tower without getting a +20 Gronnblade Nino blast (Azura and Eirika running both Tactics Seals), then another one after she's been danced.

Then if you take too long to set up the initial attack, you have to destroy the Aether Fountain to get to Hector, so maybe I can weasel out a few stall victories that way.
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Dark Young Link
11/13/18 3:25:09 PM
#203:


Ohh, that's good. I should do something like that.
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KamikazePotato
11/13/18 3:27:31 PM
#204:


So who else is ready for Vivi to be the only Square character to survive Round 3
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Xuxon
11/13/18 3:33:14 PM
#205:


wrong thread and also literally no chance because of Auron
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barreldragon88
11/13/18 5:29:13 PM
#206:


MrSmartGuy posted...
This is what I did with my Defense.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/127676496079880192/511959871327830017/Screenshot_2018-11-13-11-49-41.png

If you don't have a Dancer or multiple units able to pass the Lightning Trap, it's impossible to engage first from the left after destroying the Healing Tower without getting a +20 Gronnblade Nino blast (Azura and Eirika running both Tactics Seals), then another one after she's been danced.

Then if you take too long to set up the initial attack, you have to destroy the Aether Fountain to get to Hector, so maybe I can weasel out a few stall victories that way.

This is brilliant!
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Emeraldegg
11/13/18 5:49:26 PM
#207:


Is there any downside for your fountains/amphoraes getting destroyed?
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Team Rocket Elite
11/13/18 5:54:34 PM
#208:


No. It only gives bonus Aether to the attacking party. It doesn't hurt the defending party.
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barreldragon88
11/14/18 3:06:09 PM
#209:


Azura has less BST than Ethlyn...... WTF
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Luis_Sera89
11/14/18 3:09:57 PM
#210:


Welcome to ranged dancers. Even then she's still one point higher than PA Shigure, Micaiah and Elincia!
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barreldragon88
11/15/18 12:44:13 PM
#211:


Didn't know that. Thought she had the lowest BST to-date
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Team Rocket Elite
11/16/18 11:53:12 PM
#212:


Bump
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Xuxon
11/18/18 4:10:34 PM
#213:


not sure if i should upgrade my amphorae again, and if so, what structures i should make/upgrade to get the dew (i really hate this dew system where i have to spend one type of currency to get another btw).

also dang i just got knocked out of the top 3000 at 3440. lost one match entirely on turns to this weird setup with a Cherche i could never engage and an Effie i couldn't kill (with no green in my team).
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Lopen
11/18/18 4:37:02 PM
#214:


Yeah I'm at 3400 also knocked out of top 3000. Had some blunders. Lost units to dumb stuff a couple of times and had one loss to an upgraded defense fort that had a +10 Fjorm I couldn't kill. Should have got one more match in to get to 3500 but my last battle had a really obnoxious setup for getting their aether stores so I'm sitting on 36 Aether I can't spend

Also I'm annoyed you don't get any lift for successful defenses, as I had one.
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Kenri
11/18/18 4:39:43 PM
#215:


I basically gave up on aether raids after getting the daily reward. Guess I'm the contrarian because I don't really find it fun at all.
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Xuxon
11/18/18 4:41:06 PM
#216:


i find it fun on offense but i don't find building a defense to be fun at all so i didn't bother.
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Lopen
11/18/18 4:41:52 PM
#217:


I liked the mode better when it first started but I'm pretty much happy for any new mode that isn't mindless grinding. The weird terrain and objectives to kill the aethers makes it play differently
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Kenri
11/18/18 4:43:08 PM
#218:


The offense just feels like arena with trap guesswork to me, and arena is already like my least favorite mode lol. FE PVP is just not my jam I think.
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Lopen
11/18/18 4:48:22 PM
#219:


I don't think the gameplay is really that similar to Arena. You generally have a stat advantage cause of how the forts work and can pick when to pick a fight because of the weird terrain and passive enemy AI.

Arena is more about not getting anyone killed and funneling kills into your bonus unit. This mode is hitting the objectives of killing their dangerous units, killing their aethers, often while leaving one of their less dangerous units alive you do these things, all in 7 turns.

Has some similarities to arena but plays pretty differently imo
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Luis_Sera89
11/18/18 4:51:56 PM
#220:


Yeah, I was one aether short of being able to do one last battle.
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Dark Young Link
11/18/18 5:14:13 PM
#221:


I just like how I can actually use the units I fucking want to use without being punished for it.
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SuorGenoveffa
11/18/18 5:18:28 PM
#222:


Dark Young Link posted...
I just like how I can actually use the units I fucking want to use without being punished for it.


This so much.

Now, if we could get an anti-dancer building...
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Dark Young Link
11/18/18 5:44:47 PM
#223:


Bleh, 40 away from tier 9. Oh well, not too bad for someone who played things super casually.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/18/18 7:27:53 PM
#224:


Lift 3580. Rank 368. I'm not even a Top 100000 Arena player. I have no idea why I have a Gold Throne right now. >_>
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Xuxon
11/18/18 7:33:22 PM
#225:


rank 3190. pretty sure if i had just 20 more points i would have made it, dang.

then i went to grab my arena rewards thinking that ended too but whoops it's tomorrow.
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Lopen
11/19/18 2:11:51 AM
#226:


Word of warning so you guys don't waste aether like me

Those Aether raid quests give bonus Aether not shards, and your Aether can't go above max, so don't be like me and exchange em hoping to get material for buildings and then waste 200 aether as a result

EDIT: Oh wait no it's not it's some weird fluff material. Expecting quests to give something useful oh silly me.
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barreldragon88
11/19/18 2:59:02 PM
#227:


These quest rewards are basically just things to clutter your map with? Blechhh
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Yankees
11/19/18 3:44:29 PM
#228:


That clutter makes pretty nice obstacles for the enemy. I've been pretty lazy about putting together a nice defense map, but they should be useful for that
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barreldragon88
11/19/18 5:56:49 PM
#229:


Just seems more economical to invest in offense since we don't even get defense win rewards
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Dark Young Link
11/19/18 10:09:08 PM
#230:


Ylgr and Surtr.

Speed Tactic no longer legendary only.

Despite that? Easiest skip ever for me.
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Grimmer
11/19/18 10:12:10 PM
#231:


Easy skip. Two unit banner is odd. Hrid is conspicuously missing...maybe the next legendary banner?
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SuorGenoveffa
11/19/18 10:20:55 PM
#232:


Dark Young Link posted...
Ylgr and Surtr.

Speed Tactic no longer legendary only.

Despite that? Easiest skip ever for me.


Same, and I thought no banner could've been an easier skip than the last one for me.
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mcflubbin
11/19/18 10:47:48 PM
#233:


A 2 character banner with 2 OCs no one cares about? Fucking yikes. The only temptation for me on this banner is Ylgr's dagger, since I just finished my +10 Kaze and that dagger looks really good for him. But other than that, big bleh.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/19/18 10:50:59 PM
#234:


Surtr is technically the top ranked non-beast unit in CYL2 who isn't in the game yet. He was only in one chapter at the time so opinions may have changed since then but in theory he at least used to have fans.
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Kenri
11/19/18 10:51:04 PM
#235:


Lopen posted...
I don't think the gameplay is really that similar to Arena. You generally have a stat advantage cause of how the forts work and can pick when to pick a fight because of the weird terrain and passive enemy AI.

Arena is more about not getting anyone killed and funneling kills into your bonus unit. This mode is hitting the objectives of killing their dangerous units, killing their aethers, often while leaving one of their less dangerous units alive you do these things, all in 7 turns.

Has some similarities to arena but plays pretty differently imo

I get your point, but I don't care about the aethers because the mode isn't fun so I don't want to play it more (also the amount you gain is worthless), so for me it's really just arena-but-with-annoyances. Like enemies being passive and the time limit and traps, none of which I'd consider good additions.
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SuorGenoveffa
11/19/18 10:51:39 PM
#236:


mcflubbin posted...
A 2 character banner with 2 OCs no one cares about? Fucking yikes. The only temptation for me on this banner is Ylgr's dagger, since I just finished my +10 Kaze and that dagger looks really good for him. But other than that, big bleh.


Pretty sure that dagger will be exclusive to Ylgr.
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Xuxon
11/19/18 10:52:02 PM
#237:


you made me double check because i'd love that dagger if it were inheritable. but alas, it isn't.
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mcflubbin
11/19/18 11:05:24 PM
#238:


Ah shoot, that's a bummer. I guess the banner's a hard skip for me then.
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barreldragon88
11/19/18 11:57:50 PM
#239:


Single focus banner when
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Lopen
11/20/18 12:17:26 AM
#240:


They said they'll be part of the banner so it'll probably have another already released unit on it or two. Easy skip in any case. Will finally get into 3 digit orbs for the first time in forever and this is with me not being as gung ho about getting all the orbs at that
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Xuxon
11/20/18 1:29:15 AM
#241:


so i hit tier 11 and i noticed i can buy a 5th character for my defense team. but can i buy one for my offense team? if so how? they make this mode so unintuitive.
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SantaRPidgey
11/20/18 2:51:46 AM
#242:


hey I just started playing, how does support work? I've been having Hector and Myrrh support each other for what feels like hundreds of battles but I'm not seeing a rank up. Does it take a long time or am I doing it wrong?
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Nameless2000
11/20/18 2:57:31 AM
#243:


SantaRPidgey posted...
hey I just started playing, how does support work? I've been having Hector and Myrrh support each other for what feels like hundreds of battles but I'm not seeing a rank up. Does it take a long time or am I doing it wrong?

Did you start the support in Interact with Allies -> Ally Support? If you already have, you'll just need to do more battles.
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Dark Young Link
11/20/18 2:59:38 AM
#244:


Also keep in mind that the enemies have to be within a certain level. You can't grind on level 1s if you're maxed out, for example.
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SantaRPidgey
11/20/18 3:02:03 AM
#245:


Yeah alright I guess I just need to wait longer. I went through the entirety of story mode with them next to each other though!

This game is super weird, I remember record keeper inspired me to play every final fantasy game (as was the point I think) but if I want to play fire emblem games... the good majority are just unavailable to buy. How much does a SNES/NES heck even DS to 3DS port cost to make? They have to be missing big bucks by never releasing the majority of their games
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SantaRPidgey
11/20/18 3:02:36 AM
#246:


Dark Young Link posted...
Also keep in mind that the enemies have to be within a certain level. You can't grind on level 1s if you're maxed out, for example.


oh ok, this makes sense even though it's kinda dumb
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Dark Young Link
11/20/18 3:06:38 AM
#247:


Yeah Fire Emblem games being hard to obtain is annoying.

Fanbase: We loved 7/8, and would love to try out 6. Could you port at least some of them to the 3Ds since both that and the gba are portable games?

Nintendo: Nah, we'd rather put it exclusively on the Wii U.

Tch.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/20/18 7:25:32 AM
#248:


Xuxon posted...
so i hit tier 11 and i noticed i can buy a 5th character for my defense team. but can i buy one for my offense team? if so how? they make this mode so unintuitive.


I'm not Tier 11 yet but it looks like it might be from the screen where you create your Raiding Party.
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barreldragon88
11/20/18 2:04:37 PM
#249:


Xuxon posted...
so i hit tier 11 and i noticed i can buy a 5th character for my defense team. but can i buy one for my offense team? if so how? they make this mode so unintuitive.

Daaang, how are you already there? O_o
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Xuxon
11/20/18 2:10:08 PM
#250:


yeah it was. at the time i asked i couldn't do anymore battles and you have to actually press the battle button to be able to adjust your offense teams. i got there by upgrading my amphorae to level 3 before the season started.

though i just realized, i could have not used all my aether yesterday and waited until just before the reset to start battling tonight to save myself 80 lift loss. oh well.
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