Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 21: A far fetched return.

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Dark Young Link
11/27/18 2:14:13 AM
#301:


Hrm, looks like I have 500 Divine Dew.

I wonder if I should get the offense or defense one first? The former costs twice as much.
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barreldragon88
11/27/18 2:23:00 PM
#302:


I vote offense. I haven't found a good justification to dump resources into defense
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Lopen
11/27/18 8:37:59 PM
#303:


I usually win offense even with their fortress at 2 so I've been focusing defense, personally. Seems like more potential upside there
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Team Rocket Elite
11/27/18 8:50:21 PM
#304:


Yeah, if you can consistently win and break the Aether buildings on Offense, it is better to go for Defense. Your defense team will still lose almost all of the time but you can't do better than perfect on Offense. Even if you aren't perfect on Offense, it is worth keeping in mind if a few extra stat points would have saved your run or not. If your losses were due to unexpected CPU movement, extra stat points might not have saved you anyways.
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barreldragon88
11/27/18 11:47:33 PM
#305:


I've been making dumb mistakes on offense, so I need to stop doing that first of all. It'll be a while before I can add a 5th defense member

If I'm at 4k lift or above and lose a defense, do I get dropped below 4k?
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Team Rocket Elite
11/27/18 11:48:45 PM
#306:


No, you can't fall below 4000. If you are at 4020 and take a full loss, you only lose 20 instead of the normal 80.
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barreldragon88
11/28/18 12:24:59 AM
#307:


But will your tier drop if you are at the edge of 12 or above and lose a defense?
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Team Rocket Elite
11/28/18 12:26:20 AM
#308:


Yes, your Tier can go down if you lose enough points. You just can't go below Tier 11.
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Dark Young Link
11/28/18 2:06:08 AM
#309:


35 orbs for a +Hp/-Def Hrid. Curse my compulsion to pull at least 1 5* on a legendary banner. I suppose it could have been worse.

Also cursed banner out of the 10 units I pulled....

6 were 3*
3 were 4*

and the 1 5* bleh.
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Lopen
11/28/18 2:45:55 AM
#310:


130 orbs spent. Was only trying to draw blue and colorless.

Grima (+HP/-Def... bleh, going to keep my +SPD/-ATK one I guess)
Hrid (worst nature of -Atk/+Spd. If I needed any incentive to fodder him. Came off a circle of 2 Green 3 Red)
Glorious Lucina (+Res/-Def. It's whatever but I kinda wanted her)

I won't complain about a +1 to Grima (now +5! Can I get a good nature before +10? Stay tuned!), Distant Counter Fodder, and a Lucina I guess.
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Grimmer
11/28/18 3:00:58 AM
#311:


I got a neutral Ryoma out of the initial summoning session. That's the one I wanted most from this banner so it's easy to call it quits now
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Dark Young Link
11/28/18 4:18:53 AM
#312:


Speaking of (Legendary)Grima....

After this banner, Legendary Grima won't return until late February. So anyone who wants to grab her(or more merges for her) may want to get them now.

Of course this also strongly suggests that we actually will get a legendary colorless hero for December. Unless they just have three non legends on colorless for whatever reason.

So perhaps something to look forward to next month.

We can all pretend we won't pull Mist instead.
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Luis_Sera89
11/28/18 4:26:48 AM
#313:


28 orbs for a Noire and a Hector. Was aiming more for Lucina merges and a Cordelia with better IVs than the one I have, but I know I could easily go through my remaining 75 orbs without seeing anything so I might just hold off here and continue saving for Christmas.
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barreldragon88
11/28/18 12:20:54 PM
#314:


Wasn't expecting Hrid to be slow af

Free-pulled Hector and also got Silas and Barst in the first set. Meanwhile, Fir continues to haunt my existence. Glacies has so few uses that it's annoying

We should take bets on who the next LH's will be. Based on popularity, Roy, Tharja, Camilla, Azura, and Corrin are around the corner, and it's curious who will get the glorious colorless treatment. We still don't have sword F!Corrin, so maybe she'll come as a LH
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Grimmer
11/28/18 2:27:22 PM
#315:


Hrid was bound to be slow with that breaker effect on his weapon.

I'm hoping for another Tellius legendary hero with that banner coming up soon. Soren or Micaiah possibly.
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barreldragon88
11/28/18 2:51:19 PM
#316:


I can see staff Micaiah being an LH or on the RD banner. Also wouldn't mind staff Elincia
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Dark Young Link
11/28/18 3:38:29 PM
#317:


Part of me wouldn't mind Elise being the legendary, but that wouldn't be too interesting since it would basically be "I'm you, but better" like Legendary Ike is to OG Ike. Well, unless they made her a dagger

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/2/20/EliseCipher4.png/revision/latest?cb=20160116101835

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/ba/B06-058SR.png/revision/latest?cb=20180122172448
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Dark Young Link
11/28/18 3:43:35 PM
#318:


Also reminder that we have maintenance tonight at 6 pm(EST).
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barreldragon88
11/28/18 3:58:41 PM
#319:


Dark Young Link posted...
Part of me wouldn't mind Elise being the legendary, but that wouldn't be too interesting since it would basically be "I'm you, but better" like Legendary Ike is to OG Ike. Well, unless they made her a dagger

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/2/20/EliseCipher4.png/revision/latest?cb=20160116101835

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/ba/B06-058SR.png/revision/latest?cb=20180122172448

That's cute
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NowItsAngeTime
11/28/18 5:29:52 PM
#320:


After hearing some Fire Emblem Heroes remixes in a certain upcoming game I decided to finally to download this game, and I finished the Preface maps

I'm mostly interested in hearing the English voice acting and various interactions of characters who didnt really get to say much in previous games

I'm not stoked about the gacha aspect but I'll likely just roll every day or whenver just to see voice acting of new character I draw
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Lopen
11/28/18 5:31:57 PM
#321:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
various interactions of characters who didnt really get to say much in previous games


Don't expect much
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barreldragon88
11/28/18 5:41:14 PM
#322:


VA is hit or miss. A lot of the females have godawful voices
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NowItsAngeTime
11/28/18 5:46:21 PM
#323:


Hmm. I'm going to assume Support is going to be very limited in terms of dialogue. It seems you can support with anyone? Is there special dialogue between characters or is it all generic like Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn?

And do you basically only get one free summon a day? Does battling get you orbs?
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NowItsAngeTime
11/28/18 5:48:35 PM
#324:


Also my friend code is: 1555253075. In game nickname is Ange
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Lopen
11/28/18 5:49:48 PM
#325:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
Is there special dialogue between characters or is it all generic like Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn?

And do you basically only get one free summon a day? Does battling get you orbs?


Ha. This man wants dialogue for his supports. You'll get none of that

You get orbs from doing story, quests, login bonuses, and the various modes, and you only get one free summon per BANNER, not day. Free orbs are fairly abundant though
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Dark Young Link
11/28/18 5:58:29 PM
#326:


Sent you a request Ange, my ign is Ira. Should see a Cherche.

(Granted none of us will be playing in about a minute)
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NowItsAngeTime
11/28/18 6:00:36 PM
#327:


Oh hmm guess I should change my main waifu/avatar character
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theawesomestevr
11/28/18 6:09:31 PM
#328:


Yeah, for written dialogue, you have the limited time Forging Bonds mode which is just 4 specific characters regardless of whether you have them or not, you have getting 5-star characters to level 40, and then I guess story/paralogues/xenologues (which you're not going to find anything great in).

Most of the voice acting for a character can be heard by tapping on them when you're on their character screen, but they also have a few voiced lines for attacks when their special activates and for when you move them around in battle. There's a place in the game where you can view that stuff for all characters you summoned in the game without having to actually battle somewhere in the menus, but not sure where that even can be found in the menus at this point.
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WickIebee
11/28/18 6:12:28 PM
#329:


I'll add you when I can, Ange. You'll probably recognize the name pretty easily.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/29/18 1:20:38 AM
#330:


I think I'm finally ready to call it quits on this game. I've been abusing Auto-Battle more and more rather than actually playing the game recently. Even so, it has unfortunately been more of a timesink than I've really had time for. At least I got to do this once before the end:

https://imgur.com/oSuNQig
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barreldragon88
11/29/18 1:29:26 AM
#331:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
https://imgur.com/oSuNQig

How O___O

And that's what you said last time! You'll be back again :P
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Xuxon
11/29/18 1:46:07 AM
#332:


i don't think he said anything like that last time. it was just the emulator he had been using stopped working.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/29/18 7:58:58 AM
#333:


I bought the Lv3 Fortress (O) and have a bonus structure. I fought someone with a Lv1 Fortress (D) and no bonus structure. +12 to all non-HP stats.

Last time I stopped playing because my emulator stopped working but I was also thinking of quitting at the same time. I'm sitting on a large stack of Orbs so I can always come back in the future. I just don't have any plans to do that right now.
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MrSmartGuy
11/29/18 8:14:42 AM
#334:


I'm at that point, too. I've dropped to Tier 17 on Arena and got to a whopping GC Tier 7 last week. I haven't even bothered doing Arena Assault in over a month. I was sitting on a little over 100 Orbs, so I just did desperation full multi-pulls on the legendary banner to see if I got something to change my mind, and it took all but 7 of them to get a +HP/-Atk Cordelia, so that's probably the end for me.
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NowItsAngeTime
11/29/18 2:11:21 PM
#335:


Now that I got a good whole day to figure out how to do basic things I have a few questions:

If a planned playthrough is just to do all the story chapters (including paralogues and extra stuff) + maybe prepare for what I see Level 40 special maps and maybe Arena, roughly how many characters should I stick with to train to get to level 40 + 5 star?

Also according to FEHeroes wiki you don't need to be level 20 to upgrade stars with hero feathers:
https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Hero_Feather

If that's the case, if I REALLY want some to get as high star level as possible how soon should I upgrade a character?
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Dark Young Link
11/29/18 3:16:19 PM
#336:


There's really no "set" amount of characters to train up, and it largely depends on the player's needs/whims. For now, try to have a balanced team of 4. One red/blue/green. Colorless isn't strictly necessary, but can be helpful(again depending on your team).

You can upgrade a character whenever you want. They'll have the exact same stats in the end regardless if you upgrade them at level 1 or level 40. However, leveling gives that unit sp so going 1 > 40 (4*) and then upgrading them to go 1 > 40(5*) again gives you more sp then just upgrading them and leveling.

Of course grinding sp is far less of a hassle these days then it was at launch, you can just go to the daily training maps. You can probably afford to upgrade right away, or at 20 if you want sp for a skill first.
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WhiteLens
11/29/18 6:38:40 PM
#337:


You could probably get by with just the free characters you get.

I mean, you DO get a free Ike from one of the Xenologues.
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NowItsAngeTime
11/29/18 6:39:56 PM
#338:


Ideally I'd want at least somewhat of a challenge but also gonna try to farm to get some of my favorite characters before I reach endgame
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SuorGenoveffa
11/29/18 7:04:20 PM
#339:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
Now that I got a good whole day to figure out how to do basic things I have a few questions:

If a planned playthrough is just to do all the story chapters (including paralogues and extra stuff) + maybe prepare for what I see Level 40 special maps and maybe Arena, roughly how many characters should I stick with to train to get to level 40 + 5 star?

Also according to FEHeroes wiki you don't need to be level 20 to upgrade stars with hero feathers:
https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Hero_Feather

If that's the case, if I REALLY want some to get as high star level as possible how soon should I upgrade a character?


By playing and summoning, you will eventually reach a decent number of 5 stars for almost all weapon types, so I wouldn't worry about it too much for now. I would start by having a good red/blue/green unit + dancer (ideally make one of the colored guys a mage), it's the most flexible early comp IMO.

You can rank up characters at level 1 and you should be fine, however be mindful that some characters require hefty amounts of SP to unlock their skills (especially inherited skills) and a huge amount of it comes from levelling (especially in weekends), so as an early player who doesn't have access to a lot of blessings and valor skills you might want to consider levelling them up to 40 before promoting. It's not a big deal as you can farm SP after level 40 in training maps, it's just that you might unlock some skills at a slower pace.
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Lopen
11/30/18 5:40:13 PM
#340:


Beat Infernal Hrid. Actually used a different strategy for once. Ran Serra/Tharja/PegaNinian/Siegbert and basically just buffed Tharja out the ass and had her run around killing everything, having Serra kill what she couldn't (Hrid and that Manakete)

Had to put Swordbreaker 1 on Siegbert so he could tank a round from Hrid as I killed the annoying gravity cleric round 1 (probably saves the most headache if you can do this) rip 3* Sully fodder. Once I did that it all clicked pretty well.
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Yankees
11/30/18 5:55:35 PM
#341:


I was able to do Infernal Hrid with my typical flier squad of Myrrh, NY Camilla, NY Azura, and Summer Corrin. The only unit I killed on the first turn was the green cavalry mage. Things were easier after I decided it is not worth killing the armor unit on the first turn.
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Lopen
11/30/18 6:00:14 PM
#342:


Got a -Atk +HP Nina to combo break at 8.5%. Somehow even worse than my -Res +HP Nina and Nina doesn't have a lot of good skill inheritance options either. Ugh. Done with this banner for now.
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Dark Young Link
11/30/18 10:01:26 PM
#343:


Lots of red in next week's arena season.

And then there's Fjorm.

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TheGoddamnSanta
12/01/18 6:52:38 PM
#344:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
If a planned playthrough is just to do all the story chapters (including paralogues and extra stuff) + maybe prepare for what I see Level 40 special maps and maybe Arena, roughly how many characters should I stick with to train to get to level 40 + 5 star?


I just did this. If you do it with the 4 5 stars the game gave you, you can breeze through the game on hard without much trouble
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Dark Young Link
12/02/18 6:57:05 PM
#345:


Fuck me, forgot Aether Raids seasons ended on Sunday so I lost about 189's(plus the freebie!) worth.
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Lopen
12/02/18 6:58:30 PM
#346:


Me too. I wish this game had less weird end times on Arena and Aether. Middle of the afternoon is so random
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Yankees
12/02/18 7:21:56 PM
#347:


I'd settle for them synchronizing it with Arena and Arena Assault. I'm not sure why we have weekly events concluding at different times
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barreldragon88
12/02/18 11:00:30 PM
#348:


Yankees posted...
I'd settle for them synchronizing it with Arena and Arena Assault. I'm not sure why we have weekly events concluding at different times

Yes, this is so irritating, and why do they need so many hours off of these events when the rewards results get calculated right away
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NeoElfboy
12/02/18 11:10:44 PM
#349:


Lopen posted...
Me too. I wish this game had less weird end times on Arena and Aether. Middle of the afternoon is so random


I mean time zones are a thing, so of course the given end times for things are gonna be random.
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Lopen
12/03/18 11:27:14 AM
#350:


NeoElfboy posted...
I mean time zones are a thing, so of course the given end times for things are gonna be random.


Yeah but then why does the day roll over 8 hours after that

Why does voting gauntlet end 5 hours after that

Why do voting gauntlet, arena, and aether thing often end on different days

It's not as simple as "Time Zones." If there was one consistent deadline (like every other mobile game I play) it would be easy to track
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