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Anime_Killer17
09/25/18 8:40:18 AM
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I may be looking too much into it, but it feels like something else was going on the entire time. I understood the main "in your face" plot, but there were a couple of unexplained things that made it feel like the whole plot was a bit of a red herring. Did anyone else get that vibe?
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Kitt
09/25/18 8:50:10 AM
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I loved it, though, I will admit that that blew their load at once during the climax (pun not intended) and I can see why it put some people off.
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SSJGrimReaper
09/25/18 8:55:15 AM
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that was one weird ass ending
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Anime_Killer17
09/25/18 9:01:12 AM
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I feel the same way as both of you
A couple of things I didn't fully understand though...
What was the point of that blue echo/light effect that happened a few times during the movie?
Why did the husband burn when Annie burned the sketchbook?
Why/how did Annie become possessed in the end? She was literally crawling on the ceiling

Great movie, and if the ending is all there is to it, I'm fine with that. But it just feels like mental illness plays a much bigger role and there's actually something else going on
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PoopPotato
09/25/18 9:22:43 AM
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I think you're supposed to be wondering if the family is going crazy due to the tragic events that happened so close together and they keep hinting about the grandma having some sort of mental problem that the mom thinks she may also have.
I enjoyed the tension of the movie, but it takes too long for the real creepy stuff to happen and the ending kinda suffers for it.
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Kitt
09/25/18 9:30:57 AM
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Anime_Killer17 posted...
I feel the same way as both of you
A couple of things I didn't fully understand though...
What was the point of that blue echo/light effect that happened a few times during the movie?
Why did the husband burn when Annie burned the sketchbook?
Why/how did Annie become possessed in the end? She was literally crawling on the ceiling

Great movie, and if the ending is all there is to it, I'm fine with that. But it just feels like mental illness plays a much bigger role and there's actually something else going on

Another thing that kind of bugged me was how convinent it was for Charlie's decapitation. Of course, the cult needed to decapitate her, but the way it happened was all too convenient for that to be planned. No way anyone could have predicted that going down the way that it did but the movie makes it seem like that was their plan all along.
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Buzz Killjoy
09/25/18 9:31:01 AM
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Anime_Killer17 posted...
I feel the same way as both of you
A couple of things I didn't fully understand though...
What was the point of that blue echo/light effect that happened a few times during the movie?
Why did the husband burn when Annie burned the sketchbook?
Why/how did Annie become possessed in the end? She was literally crawling on the ceiling

Great movie, and if the ending is all there is to it, I'm fine with that. But it just feels like mental illness plays a much bigger role and there's actually something else going on


Like somebody else said, I think the mental illness angle is all a red herring to lead you away from the actual occult happenings. The movie is uneven because the spooky shit doesn't start until so late in the movie, but when it does it gets laid on super thick.

The blue light is heavily implied to be the spirit of the grandmother, who's been hanging around because the ritual performed on her body in the attic. She's just waiting for an opportunity to possess her daughter's body, just like the coven/cultists are waiting for an opportunity to let King Paimon possess the son's body.

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Darker Cheshire
09/25/18 9:38:43 AM
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I, too, thought most of the events were going to be the result of mental illness in the family that only the father, who was relatively normal, didn't suffer from.

'lo and behold it's a multi-generational plot for a lord of hell to inhabit their preferred gendered body.

I interpreted the blue light to be Paimon himself when attempting to, or directly possessing individuals. I also interpreted that Charlie was involved or partially possessed by Paimon for a long time. I also interpret what happened with Charlie's art book in the fireplace to be a result of Paimon using mischief to manipulate and weaken the resolve of characters (Annie thinks burning the book and killing herself will end the process... Paimon put that idea in her head. Husband dies instead completely breaking her and making her susceptible to possession, enabling Paimon to then directly assault his next target.) I also see Annie's sleepwalking moments as her own maternal instinct to try and stop what is going on without fully understanding it.

Pretty layered and well put together movie.
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AsucaHayashi
09/25/18 9:40:21 AM
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i fucking loved the "when you see it" moment in the movie.

freaked me tf out
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PoopPotato
09/25/18 9:44:32 AM
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Yeah, at first I didn't like the son's reaction to Charley, but then I thought about it and it's totally believable.
"I'll just sleep it off and everything will be better in the morning..."
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AlephZero
09/25/18 10:14:40 AM
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Kitt posted...
Anime_Killer17 posted...
I feel the same way as both of you
A couple of things I didn't fully understand though...
What was the point of that blue echo/light effect that happened a few times during the movie?
Why did the husband burn when Annie burned the sketchbook?
Why/how did Annie become possessed in the end? She was literally crawling on the ceiling

Great movie, and if the ending is all there is to it, I'm fine with that. But it just feels like mental illness plays a much bigger role and there's actually something else going on

Another thing that kind of bugged me was how convinent it was for Charlie's decapitation. Of course, the cult needed to decapitate her, but the way it happened was all too convenient for that to be planned. No way anyone could have predicted that going down the way that it did but the movie makes it seem like that was their plan all along.

supernatural shit happening in a supernatural movie? i'm shocked
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Kitt
09/25/18 10:20:23 AM
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AlephZero posted...
Kitt posted...
Anime_Killer17 posted...
I feel the same way as both of you
A couple of things I didn't fully understand though...
What was the point of that blue echo/light effect that happened a few times during the movie?
Why did the husband burn when Annie burned the sketchbook?
Why/how did Annie become possessed in the end? She was literally crawling on the ceiling

Great movie, and if the ending is all there is to it, I'm fine with that. But it just feels like mental illness plays a much bigger role and there's actually something else going on

Another thing that kind of bugged me was how convinent it was for Charlie's decapitation. Of course, the cult needed to decapitate her, but the way it happened was all too convenient for that to be planned. No way anyone could have predicted that going down the way that it did but the movie makes it seem like that was their plan all along.

supernatural shit happening in a supernatural movie? i'm shocked

The way it was presented at that point of the movie was less supernatural and more of a huge freak accident. But I'd be more shocked if you actually saw the movie.
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AlephZero
09/25/18 10:27:42 AM
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I thought the movie made it pretty clear that the "accident" was no accident, it happened because the creepy supernatural cult made it happen.
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Kitt
09/25/18 10:39:38 AM
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AlephZero posted...
I thought the movie made it pretty clear that the "accident" was no accident, it happened because the creepy supernatural cult made it happen.

The cult isn't exactly supetnatural themselves but that's what I'm getting at. It's later revealed that they (somehow) were involved with the accident because they needed Charlie to be decapitated.
But what was shown to have happened wasn't supernatural or anything. It was just an unpredictable chain of events that convinently played out in the cult's favor at the end. They lucked the fuck out with what happened to Charlie basically.
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TomNook20
09/25/18 10:45:26 AM
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AlephZero posted...
I thought the movie made it pretty clear that the "accident" was no accident, it happened because the creepy supernatural cult made it happen.


How so? It seemed pretty clear that it was just a freak accident and the cult took advantage of the situation.
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AlephZero
09/25/18 10:46:43 AM
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I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. It's like Final Destination, sort of. What looks like a freak accident resulting from a series of unpredictable events was instead the result of a supernatural force making small nudges so things happen a certain way.
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Darker Cheshire
09/25/18 10:46:48 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
AlephZero posted...
I thought the movie made it pretty clear that the "accident" was no accident, it happened because the creepy supernatural cult made it happen.


How so? It seemed pretty clear that it was just a freak accident and the cult took advantage of the situation.


Wasn't completely a freak accident. The pole involved in the accident had the marking of the cult on it. It's visible when they pass it when driving to the party.
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Kitt
09/25/18 10:53:50 AM
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Darker Cheshire posted...
TomNook20 posted...
AlephZero posted...
I thought the movie made it pretty clear that the "accident" was no accident, it happened because the creepy supernatural cult made it happen.


How so? It seemed pretty clear that it was just a freak accident and the cult took advantage of the situation.


Wasn't completely a freak accident. The pole involved in the accident had the marking of the cult on it. It's visible when they pass it when driving to the party.

We get that. What we're saying is, from what we seen, how were they involved with what happened? Again, the cult worships this supernatural entity but they themselves aren't capable of doing these supernatural feats that alters people's lives like that.
The movie credits them for being involved with the accident but there isn't a hint as to how they played a part in planning/causing it, aside from it just being a huge coincidence that played out in their favor.
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AsucaHayashi
09/25/18 1:24:43 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
How so? It seemed pretty clear that it was just a freak accident and the cult took advantage of the situation.


it wasn't an accident or at least not a freak one.

the dead animal on the road wasn't a coincidence nor was charlie sticking her head out the window at that moment(at this point we didn't know she wasn't really a normal kid charlie but daimon in a deformed body and wanted out).

if she wasn't decapitated from the brother's swerving maybe she would have flung herself out at the pole instead. in any case the fact is that she wanted to die(just like how the mother decapitates herself at the end) in order to let the soul roam free and catch another body, this time the correct one.

edit: oh and apparently charlie has(or hasn't?) an allergy and at the party she eats some cake and convinces(or manipulates?) her brother to rush to the hospital which obv makes him drive fast to begin with.
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