Poll of the Day > Facebook, YouTube and iTunes drop InfoWars

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45083684

Inb4 but muh free speech!!
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Meh, never heard of it.
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Now I get why reviews tip toe the line of 8/10 ratings. You want to be able to hold some kind of critical merit by not giving perfect scores. You don't want to post negative things that can be construed as hating.

And you want to align with your political and financial benefactors who force feed your opinion. Baaaaaa.

can we please stop giving terrible humans attention?

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?
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Smarkil posted...

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?

that is quite directly addressed in the linked article
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Looks like the globalists got to them

Im gonna need to buy more bone in beef broth to protect my family from the gay frog army
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Nightengale posted...

Smarkil posted...

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?

that is quite directly addressed in the linked article

Yeah, the article says because of conspiracy theories. Hence my question.

If you want to argue that youtube banned them because of conspiracy theories, why are movies like "Loose Change" still under the paid movie content of Youtube?

I hate conspiracy theorists as much as anyone, but are they really that worthy of ire that they need to be deplatformed?
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it's because he's nothing but a toxic asshole who constantly lies in order to fuel his hate group following

even after he admitted his entire persona is an act, people still believe him 100%
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I mean, anyone who watches his shit and believes it is a moron but I dont really agree with this. whatever
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well he violated everyones terms of service, so
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iTunes just game him the more publicity than any other platform ever has, therefore making him even more popular.

So congratulations I guess?
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Smarkil posted...

Nightengale posted...

Smarkil posted...

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?

that is quite directly addressed in the linked article

Yeah, the article says because of conspiracy theories. Hence my question.

If you want to argue that youtube banned them because of conspiracy theories, why are movies like "Loose Change" still under the paid movie content of Youtube?

I hate conspiracy theorists as much as anyone, but are they really that worthy of ire that they need to be deplatformed?

i'm not arguing anything, i'm saying the reason the bannings happened are directly addressed in the article. the terms of service of the platforms were violated. obviously you can't clean up everything in an instant though, if you see something that seems to violate the terms you should report it

also the reason was hate speech, not conspiracy theories
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When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Acting like every viewpoint is equally valid is moronic. The guy makes shit up plain and simple.
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guy admitted to playing an act in court.

dangerous rhetoric(such as what went down with the DC pizza place i think) and jones himself might not even believe it.

Mead posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Acting like every viewpoint is equally valid is moronic. The guy makes shit up plain and simple.

It doesn't need to be equally valid, because stupid people will think it is
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Mead posted...

Acting like every viewpoint is equally valid is moronic. The guy makes shit up plain and simple.

Every viewpoint is equally valid. They're not equally factual, but a view is subjective and only needs to be valid to the believer. Treating viewpoints as invalid because they're not built on solid foundations is moronic as you can easily defeat these views with sound arguement.

The moment you dismiss conspiracy theorists offhandedly, you give them circumstantial evidence to reinforce their mistake, treating them as equals gives them the perfect opportunity to see how ignorant they are.
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Smarkil posted...

Yeah, the article says because of conspiracy theories. Hence my question.

If you want to argue that youtube banned them because of conspiracy theories, why are movies like "Loose Change" still under the paid movie content of Youtube?

I hate conspiracy theorists as much as anyone, but are they really that worthy of ire that they need to be deplatformed?

Well then they should get rid of all the conspiracy theorists on Youtube. Especially the flat earther ones.
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Why don't you get back to us once this actually happens?

Why don't you get back to us once this actually happens?

GamerGate
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Smarkil posted...

Nightengale posted...

Smarkil posted...

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?

that is quite directly addressed in the linked article

Yeah, the article says because of conspiracy theories. Hence my question.

If you want to argue that youtube banned them because of conspiracy theories, why are movies like "Loose Change" still under the paid movie content of Youtube?

I hate conspiracy theorists as much as anyone, but are they really that worthy of ire that they need to be deplatformed?

I don't think it was the conspiracy theorists so much as the attacking Muslims and transgendered that did it. Possibly accusing the Sandy Hook kids of being crisis actors too, but stuff like that usually doesn't fall under "hate speech" so much as "being a gigantic piece of shit formed into a rough approximation of a human being".
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Who is going warn me about fay frogs now?
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Slippery fucking slope

I understand they don't want to be targeted in the law suits that are flying around, but this is just going to allow people to nitpick everyone else and compare what they say/said to jones.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Slippery fucking slope

I understand they don't want to be targeted in the law suits that are flying around, but this is just going to allow people to nitpick everyone else and compare what they say/said to jones.

Not a slippery slope at all.

Apple, Google, and Facebook are private companies. They are fully within their rights to delete any content from their services for any reason or for no reason at all.

Alex Jones has first amendment rights to free speech, but all that means is that he's allowed to say what he wants (with a few exceptions spelled out by law) without the government punishing him for it; access to broadcasting platforms, like Facebook, Youtube, and iTunes, is in no way guaranteed.
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Who the fuck cares
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Just because they have the right to ban opinions they disagree with doesn't mean they should.
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

Just because they have the right to ban opinions they disagree with doesn't mean they should.

Considering the specific (and toxic) opinions they decided to take a stand against, I am completely OK with their decision.
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darkknight109 posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Slippery fucking slope

I understand they don't want to be targeted in the law suits that are flying around, but this is just going to allow people to nitpick everyone else and compare what they say/said to jones.

Not a slippery slope at all.

Apple, Google, and Facebook are private companies. They are fully within their rights to delete any content from their services for any reason or for no reason at all.

Alex Jones has first amendment rights to free speech, but all that means is that he's allowed to say what he wants (with a few exceptions spelled out by law) without the government punishing him for it; access to broadcasting platforms, like Facebook, Youtube, and iTunes, is in no way guaranteed.

Slippery as a tinder babe when she sees @LaggnFragnLarry on tinder, ok?
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

I mean, anyone who watches his shit and believes it is a moron but I dont really agree with this. whatever

Why not? He's blatantly lying on private platforms that owe nobody a voice.
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

Just because they have the right to ban opinions they disagree with doesn't mean they should.

Big difference between calling Sandy Hook a hoax and saying that you believe taxes should be changed.

knivesX2004 posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Why don't you get back to us once this actually happens?

This. I think Alex Jones and Infowars are ruined. 90% of their source of income was just shattered.
Imagine if people could only get Call of Duty from Activision's official website. Lol
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Probably never, since it usually works.
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darkknight109 posted...

Smarkil posted...

Nightengale posted...

Smarkil posted...

Why? Aside from alex jones dumbass conspiracies, do they even do anything worthy of banning them?

that is quite directly addressed in the linked article

Yeah, the article says because of conspiracy theories. Hence my question.

If you want to argue that youtube banned them because of conspiracy theories, why are movies like "Loose Change" still under the paid movie content of Youtube?

I hate conspiracy theorists as much as anyone, but are they really that worthy of ire that they need to be deplatformed?

I don't think it was the conspiracy theorists so much as the attacking Muslims and transgendered that did it. Possibly accusing the Sandy Hook kids of being crisis actors too, but stuff like that usually doesn't fall under "hate speech" so much as "being a gigantic piece of shit formed into a rough approximation of a human being".

I've never watched anything he's done, but is it actual muslim/transgender hate speech or was it more of the 'I think Muslims are bad' kind of variety. Cause there's a difference between wanting a holy crusade and thinking trumps travel ban was a good thing.
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This actually makes him seem more legitimate. He's getting so much publicity making him look like a martyr when in reality he was a has-been con artist just on his way to being irrelevant.

This honestly just helps him.
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Yellow posted...

This actually makes him seem more legitimate. He's getting so much publicity making him look like a martyr when in reality he was a has-been con artist just on his way to being irrelevant.

This honestly just helps him.

All the attention will fade in a few days, but his audience will permanently shrink.
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Golden Road posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Probably never, since it usually works.

Come on man, everyone knows that history has always been written by the defeated, because heavily restricting or eliminating their voices was actually the secret to spreading their message and views!

Mead posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

When are these idiots gonna learn that silencing your opposition just proves their point and gives them more power? Stupid, stupid.

Acting like every viewpoint is equally valid is moronic. The guy makes shit up plain and simple.

So do countless other people on their platform, though.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Every viewpoint is equally valid. They're not equally factual, but a view is subjective and only needs to be valid to the believer. Treating viewpoints as invalid because they're not built on solid foundations is moronic as you can easily defeat these views with sound arguement.

Clearly not every viewpoint is equally valid (and Alex Jones is a great case-in-point), but that doesn't mean that invalid viewpoints should necessarily be silenced.

darkknight109 posted...

Not a slippery slope at all.

Apple, Google, and Facebook are private companies. They are fully within their rights to delete any content from their services for any reason or for no reason at all.

Alex Jones has first amendment rights to free speech, but all that means is that he's allowed to say what he wants (with a few exceptions spelled out by law) without the government punishing him for it; access to broadcasting platforms, like Facebook, Youtube, and iTunes, is in no way guaranteed.

...none of which changes the fact that it's a slippery slope. It sets an incredibly bad precedent, especially since it encourages every large groups of morons to bully platforms into what's tantamount to censorship.
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Zeus posted...

...none of which changes the fact that it's a slippery slope. It sets an incredibly bad precedent, especially since it encourages every large groups of morons to bully platforms into what's tantamount to censorship.

Nah. Hate speech is pretty clearly laid out in the ToS.

Jones wasn't banned for being unpopular, he was banned for hate speech. Which he should have been.

Still not a slippery slope. If you want it put in another way, if GameFAQs were to ban someone for using racial slurs it doesn't mean that they're suddenly going to start banning people for legitimate discussion.
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I listened to clips of Alex Jones, and it was hilarious. It's like Rush on crack(assuming Rush isn't on crack), however I don't see their point on hate-speech.

He doesn't have favorable views on "transgender" people, or the Muslim religion, but I never would've called it hate-speech. It didn't land anywhere near the reasons these platforms gave, and it definitely seems like these companies went out of their way to delete InfoWars. They're allowed to do what they please on these platforms, but if this erratic banning continues: there will be substantial backlash.
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SgtNickStoltz posted...

I listened to clips of Alex Jones, and it was hilarious. It's like Rush on crack(assuming Rush isn't on crack), however I don't see their point on hate-speech.

He doesn't have favorable views on "transgender" people, or the Muslim religion, but I never would've called it hate-speech. It didn't land anywhere near the reasons these platforms gave, and it definitely seems like these companies went out of their way to delete InfoWars. They're allowed to do what they please on these platforms, but if this erratic banning continues: there will be substantial backlash.

If you think his content wasnt hate speech then you didnt listen to much of it

He accuses public figures of being pedophiles and makes bogus claims about murdered children being crisis actors and shaming the families. Fuck him.
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I don't see what's so erratic about these bannings. He violated the ToS, so he got banned. Idk what's weird about that.
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PuddingBoy posted...

I don't see what's so erratic about these bannings. He violated the ToS, so he got banned. Idk what's weird about that.

Because of the synchronicity.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

PuddingBoy posted...

I don't see what's so erratic about these bannings. He violated the ToS, so he got banned. Idk what's weird about that.

Because of the synchronicity.

He was recently getting pushback from Spotify users so it's not surprising other platforms starting looking into his accounts to see if they'd possibly be next in the line of fire. They likely found things that broke the ToS so they all decided to ban him so they could avoid the media shitstorm like what happened with Spotify.

It's likely he had been breaking the ToS for a long time but it wasn't worth the hassle to remove him from the platform in the past. Now with Spotify biting the bullet first, other services have a much easier time doing the same thing they did but without as much blowback.

The media pushback any company would have gotten wouldn't be enough to take down any of these services anyway. Facebook, YouTube, iTunes and Spotify will be just fine and Alex Jones and InfoWars will find a platform that suits them easily if they want to.
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McSame_as_Bush posted...

Yellow posted...

This actually makes him seem more legitimate. He's getting so much publicity making him look like a martyr when in reality he was a has-been con artist just on his way to being irrelevant.

This honestly just helps him.

All the attention will fade in a few days, but his audience will permanently shrink.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/400807-infowars-app-shoots-up-rankings-after-alex-jones-crackdown

The app has surged in popularity in recent days from the 47th to the 4th most popular Apple store news app in the United States. That position places Inforwars over CNN, Fox News and The New York Times's apps, according to app analytics site, App Annie.

Look who was right.

This was a terrible idea. And under the guise of hate speech? People hate PC culture, they always have and always will. That's all they need to turn radical.
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Its too late.

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Yellow posted...

Look who was right.

This was a terrible idea. And under the guise of hate speech? People hate PC culture, they always have and always will. That's all they need to turn radical.

There is always a surge in popularity. Then it dies down. Check back in a week or two.
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