Board 8 > Herein lies a list of 20 video games that may or may not be the best ever.

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Lopen posted...

Never forget the betrayal of Tales of Symphonia.

it still hurts

also, i don't have a ps4, just a switch. my primary purpose for getting a puyo puyo type would be to play with friends as a board game alternative, i think.

is it the same thing as dr. robotnik's mean bean machine? that was the best use i got out of the sonic mega collection on gamecube
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you should also play Sonic Mania
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SeabassDebeste posted...

is it the same thing as dr. robotnik's mean bean machine? that was the best use i got out of the sonic mega collection on gamecube

Yeah, Mean Bean was Puyo Puyo. Now with a very different cast.
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It was also Kirby's Avalanche.
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holy flying potato how did I miss this

1. Beat 'Em & Eat 'Em
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SeabassDebeste posted...

also, i don't have a ps4, just a switch. my primary purpose for getting a puyo puyo type would be to play with friends as a board game alternative, i think.

is it the same thing as dr. robotnik's mean bean machine? that was the best use i got out of the sonic mega collection on gamecube

Yes! Its essentially Mean Bean Machine, which was Segas way of introducing the game in the West.

And I think thats the best way to look at it, almost like a man alternative party or board game. Something easy, fun and addictive, that also doesnt require a huge time commitment.

puyo puyo really is a top game of all time (more like top 50 for me)

i played the hell out of its incarnations way back when though so i'm not that excited for more

puyo puyo games are pretty cool. not sure I'd put them on any kind of top list, though.
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Puyo (played as Kirby's Avalanche for me) is probably my third favorite puzzle game behind Tetris Attack and Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo

The latter two definitely make a top 50 for me, maybe even top 20-- not sure Kirby's Avalanche would though. It's definitely on the border of puzzle games I'm passionate about vs not.
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18 | Super Mario Kart (SNES)

I ended Puyo Puyo talking about how Im a firm supporter, and believer, in games that everyone can play, modeled in an arcade-esque style. I couldnt in good conscious name drop Mario Kartthe best multiplayer game of all-timeand not have it make the cut on this list.

So, the decision came down to which one?

Let me tell you which onethe one without the forsaken Blue Shell. Mario Kart 64 may have been a revolutionary multiplayer experience, but oh my days, the Blue Shell will forever be its legacy. That fateful moment was when the racing component of Mario Kart became a product of the Great Randomizer gods.

Another factor here is that Super Mario Kart still looks so beautiful today. Those bright, clear colors; pixel work that makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside; and the classic award ceremony where someone pops the cork to pop the Cheep Cheep balloon. It is full of wild imagination and character.

There are so many little touches about SMK that I love. Is it necessary to know the actual time the CPU crossed the finish line? Absolutely not, haha, but oh man, do I love that after each raceand that includes the part where everyone drives by and the leader holds the checkered flag. Those flourishes are cemented into my head as an insignificant but standout quality of the game.

Who also doesnt LOVE dropping banana peels during a Mario Circuit race right at the precise moment where a big jump occurs and it ruins someones race? Good times! I dont know why, but if this happens to the CPU they seemingly become unable to ever make the jump again, hahaor maybe thats just DK Jr. I have witnessed it, so I know it is real!

For me, the simplicity of Super Mario Kart is what sets it apart. It eschews the need for Kart parts, an endless roster of similar characters, funky drift hax, and all other manner of customization minutia. You have four classes, two characters per class and your racing and item skills behind you. Make no mistake, I still love modern Mario Kart, but I will always have a soft spot for the original.

not even a top 5 mario kart

get this trash outta here!
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Wat

SMK probably a bottom tier Mario Kart game at this point
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get ready for Nintendo Badge Arcade to hit the top 10
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That Puyo love, omg yes. I wish I could have hyped this board half that well on PPT, it's legitimately a best-in-genre game to me. The presence of the universally known Tetris helps like crazy with getting folks interested at parties, and before you know it the night's turned in to a puzzle frenzy of people screaming with hype at every drop of garbage blocks. It's a damn magical game.
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You know he does have a good point about that damn Blue Shell though
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heroicmario posted...

Mario Kart 64 may have been a revolutionary multiplayer experience, but oh my days, the Blue Shell will forever be its legacy.

No, it won't.

Mario Kart 64's Blue Shell is super tame compared to later incarnations. Blame Double Dash for what it became, not MK64!
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64 my first MK and the only one i could get even remotely competent at. i can't really get a feel for SMK at all, unfortunately
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I haven't played the WiiU Mario Kart but I've heard that the blue shell problem has been taken care of. Now you're saying SMK is the superior game in its own right (assuming this is the only Mario Kart on here).
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LeonhartFour posted...

Mario Kart 64's Blue Shell is super tame compared to later incarnations. Blame Double Dash for what it became, not MK64!

this is definitely true. i read a lot about the "blue shell effect" but in my eyes it's not a premium mega-item

then i play mario kart on switch and i'm watching as it just atomizes the #1 player (almost never me) and i wonder why it's supposed to be fun

oh well
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Im glad that there is enough Puyo Puyo love going around. It may seem like an wildcard pick, but its a legitimately great game, in whatever incarnation you prefer it in! Give me the puyos before you ever give me the tetriminos!

iiicon posted...

get ready for Nintendo Badge Arcade to hit the top 10

Listen, Nintendo Badge Arcade was a drug for a time, but Im better now. I am not so warped as to ever delve this far into madness.

Tetris Plus is the best Tetris game imhotbqh
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Mario kart 64 was too worried about creating the Blue Shell it didnt properly understand the power it was dealing with. It brought it on this world, and the Blue Shell evolved. MK64 also had the poop that was DK Jungle Raceway, so lets all reflect on that unfortunate texture.

SMK is a top 1 Mario Kart game

awfully tough to play today though. it just feels underwater with its speed. that's the f-zero gx in me
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heroicmario posted...

Mario kart 64 was too worried about creating the Blue Shell it didnt properly understand the power it was dealing with. It brought it on this world, and the Blue Shell evolved. MK64 also had the poop that was DK Jungle Raceway, so lets all reflect on that unfortunate texture.

what did I just read
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also the best thing about SMK is being able to lap the field effortlessly in GP mode
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Choco Mountain is the poop if anything
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SMK1 is underrated these days
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what if they made super mario kart 2

that'd be my sonic 4
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tag

puyo puyo tetris is a good inclusion
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LeonhartFour posted...

also the best thing about SMK is being able to lap the field effortlessly in GP mode

This reminds me!

As awful as rubberband A.I. was made out to be, those higher difficulties stayed super competitive because of it. You still had to outrace your competition, even if you tried to cheese them. It makes the single player a bit more enjoyable, I think. I hated at the time, but Ive come around on it, because SMK is still pretty tough on 150cc, haha.

But, oh man, lapping Koopa Troopa feels good every time.

Super Mario Kart 2 would be incredible, even if I dont exactly know how that works today. A sort of soft reset on the customization of Mario Kart would be welcome for me.

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Choco Mountain is the poop if anything

Choco Mountain had that chocolate smear going on, haha. Jungle Raceway is like a fever dream of wild, uncertain framerate and the pervasive sense of brown sludge everywhere. Its just my go to example of how that game hasnt held as firm.

just get SMK with online play and put it on switch's supposedly free online service for a month

my Luigi will lap you
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If we can get SMK with online play as part of the Classics Online set of games, you all are toast! Bananas at every jump, green shells at every corner, feathers on every Ghost House.

Controversial opinion, but I think Mario Kart Super Circuit is the best Super Mario Kart. It takes what made the SNES game fun and really dials it up with some insanely clever tracks. I love Ribbon Road and Sky-Garden, Cheep Cheep Island, etc. Also, it had every single SNES track which blew my mind at the time. Of course the big drawback was not easily accessible multiplayer but damn, that game had such an insane amount of content for a launch title it still blows my mind.
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I feel like Mario Kart Super Circuit is probably my favorite Mario Kart but I haven't played it often enough or recently enough to be absolutely sure it has the edge over N64 or the Wii-U one-- I don't actually own the game. I had a lot of fun playing it on a friend's GBA though.

This is more a "I'm not super huge on any of the Mario Karts" thing than a "what I've Super Circuit was just that great" to be clear. I mean it was definitely fun but on the other hand I don't actually own it (don't own the Wii-U one either) so...
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I want a new Double Dash

That was a good idea that the world was not ready for
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I'm late to the party but TAG
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transience posted...

what if they made super mario kart 2

that'd be my sonic 4

yeah i'd imagine another super mario kart would be as bad as sonic the hedgehog 4 episode 1 + 2
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I kinda thought of Super Circuit as SMK2 already. <_<
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I really hated super circuit but I can't remember why
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super circuit is an abomination
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Ive barely played it (and hadnt played SMK in years at the time) so I could be wrong! Just what I remember thinking.
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Super Circuit is the MK Ive invested the least amount of time into, so its tough to say. I remember being okay with it?

It had some ideas that it built on from SMK, and I love the revamped tracks in modern games, but its like most GBA games where I dont know that I would want to revisit it at all.

I remember liking Super Circuit. It seemed a lot like SMK to me, so it was good enough at the time. Later, I learned people weren't so big on that game. I forget why though.
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Super Circuit tracks that show up on other MK games are pretty good. Same with SMK, actually.

What I'm saying is that all tracks should be remade in MK8D, the ur-Mario Kart game.
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tracks are never the reason a MK game is good or bad though. it's the game mechanics.

I remember super circuit's kart handling to be super awful but I didn't give it much of a chance.
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transcience posted...

tracks are never the reason a MK game is good or bad though

we are on different planets
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(and the point is moot anyway because MK8D is the most mechanically satisfying game in the series)
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yeah, not for me. I play that with the wife or kids and just kinda wonder why I'm bothering. it feels like it's on auto-pilot by design and turning off the assists doesn't really help. the item rubberbanding kills me as someone raised by SMK. I just, yuck.
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17 | Final Fantasy VI (SNES)

This is the highest ranking Final Fantasy game. Have the mighty fallen? Yes and no! Over the years, my interest in RPGs has waned considerably. I have fond memories of a few, what I look for today is wildly different from ten or fifteen years ago, and my time is crunched in a way that makes ultra long RPGs untenable at best.

So, here we have Final Fantasy VI.

Why this game has stuck with me above all the others has as much to do with its flaws as its strengths. Does that make sense? Maybe not, but Im intimately aware of where FFVI struggles, there are things I have NO love for!

Split party dungeons (a gigantic RPG no-no for me), frivolous and obnoxious sidequests, customization that is essentially a race to the bottom in terms of diversity, and a sizable part of the cast that are more or less irrelevant in every sense of the word.

I have never stopped having those same problems with FFVI since I first played it, but yet, I go through them every time with no inexplicable explanation as to why!

You can bet Im taking my Moogle Charm all the way up to Fanatics Tower, going to the Phoenix Cave and visiting Zozo, City of Nightmares, every time I play! Who on Earth even thought a city with a high encounter rate was a good idea? Oooof!

I love FFVI because of everything intermingled between all of the bad. It is full of high highs, scenes that are unforgettable, and a battle system that is an absolute joy to mess around withstats that dont work and all! There is a certain special sauce at play here that keeps me coming back again and again.

Did you know I love the World of Ruin? Terras story? Ooooh yeah, baby, Im THAT kind of guy!

Really, all of the characters have enjoyable stories and drama, satisfactory conclusions and goofy, larger-than-life personalities that arent too serious for their own good. They arent caricatures like FFIV, but arent as self-serious as FFVII or FFVIII. I think Final Fantasy is at its best when its that way.

To sum this all up, did you know that I wrote the entire Game Script for Final Fantasy VI Advance? This wasnt a time when a data dump happened, and I just cleaned it up. No, sir, I played through the entire game and typed it up as I went..

I was nuts, I had too much time, haha. I did that for free! The power of good video games, maybe.